Undercover in the UK’s grouse shooting industry

[@johnvaleanbaily4859]

I'm a shooter, but find them and prosecute if they kill hawks.

[@shakeybeatz]

Can you shoot them as well please mate. You’d be doing the good people of this world a favour.

[@sharpshooter4571]

What a terrible one sided report. The complete lack of knowledge by the reporter is mind blowing. Typical channel 4 never get there facts right

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

go vegan

[@mickeypye2593]

*THEIR ;)

[@blackbob3358]

go on then mush, tell us the facts. ....you kill anything that moves, that's a fact. the writing's on the wall, bollock chops.

[@shakeybeatz]

@@blackbob3358made my day that comment mate. 👍

[@welsworthy]

Most of the comments on here are completely out of touch with what happens in the countryside. Where was a crime committed? I saw a bird removed from a legal trap , that’s all . Money earned from shooting goes back into the management of the moors benefitting many types of wildlife . Without burning massive wildfires would rip through the moors every year doing untold damage. Look at the evidence gwct has been studying the benefits of the grouse moors for years .

[@jabiru1232]

@Pete graham how so

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@jabiru1232 because grouse moors blatantly kill millions of threatened birds of prey each year just so they have grouse to shoot. It’s ridiculous, they care more about a stupid pointless sport more than they do the wildlife. Also burning the heather is what causes wildfires especially when it’s not done properly or it’s dry weather

[@jabiru1232]

@@theotheseaeagle I think you’ll find burning the heather reduces wildfires and helps wildlife because the heather doesn’t grow out of control as long as the job is done properly grouse shooting is also far from a pointless sport as I’m sure some gamekeepers do wrong and illegally kill birds of prey witch they should face punishment for but it is far from millions but because of the sport of grouse shooting it has been made profitable for the gamekeepers to control the number of stoats and foxes which will overpopulate if they aren’t controlled and thus giving disadvantaged species of animal a chance of living because the environment has been so altered by humans that it has now become human responsibility to balance which a responsible gamekeeper will do. You antis need to upen your eyes a bit.

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@jabiru1232 yes but many grousemoors have birds of prey culled, some of which are on the red list (such as hen harriers).

[@jabiru1232]

@@theotheseaeagle I’m sure some do and that’s wrong but most moors are honest and value the wildlife more

[@curiousuranus810]

Blood sports; utterly, utterly reprehensible.

[@curiousuranus810]

@AUTONOMEN x Who told you that?

[@dinxruntings]

But oh sooo Beautifully ALPHA.

[@martinda7446]

@AUTONOMEN x Truly?

[@johnfisher7757]

Ban bloodsports.

[@dinxruntings]

Ban the left.

[@eakherenow]

If only these people were prosecuted for these killings.I don't know anyone who kills animals who is not dehumanized by their indifference to taking life.

[@dinxruntings]

You sweetheart would not exsist not for the dehumanised humanity that came before you.

[@stephenbishop8991]

Would you say the same to Native Americans or Australian Aborigines? No. Everyone would agree that hunting is natural and an essential part of their culture and general existence. We are so "woke" that we have lost our understanding of where humans belong in the natural world.

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@stephenbishop8991 yes but murdering birds of prey just so you can have a few more grouse is absurd

[@theworthysoul]

@@stephenbishop8991hunting before was to survive, using spears and stuff. Hunting now is for the fat rich people with their guns :)

[@terasci5102]

Prince Charles has just been complaining about climate change and environmental damage!

[@jamieabbott9970]

Burning is too prevent wild fires cos off uneducated people think is ok too have fires /bbq's wen its tinder dry and makes better vegetation not only fore read grouse but numerous outher wild life ?

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@jamieabbott9970 that’s still not the point, just ban BBQ’ then you won’t have a problem with the fires. Burning heather also damages the peat and kill of many species of nesting birds. Half a population of curlews were killed on a grouse mood in Ireland after “managed” burning got out of control and killed all the eggs and chicks as well as some adults

[@dogstar5572]

Groups of people more than 6 gathering outside is illegal unless shooting grouse. It was passed in the House of Commons.

[@isupportthecurrentthing.1514]

The Tories love their blood sports .

[@Francois_Dupont]

the reporter running after people with the microphone didnt even have a mask on.

[@martinda7446]

ERm...Along with Football, Netball, Hockey, Polo, Rugby, Paintball even...Etc, etc..

[@martinda7446]

@@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 What like football and polo etc?

[@matthewfoley3929]

@@martinda7446 football contributed 7.6 billion to the UK economy in 2016-2017. Its a bit different to a bunch of posh tits with bloodlust swanning about a feild with no one watching... ...but the less said about Rugby the better....

[@MrRailjunkie]

These hunters are a disgrace long jail centenses for all involved.

[@isupportthecurrentthing.1514]

They get away with assaulting hunt sabs on a regular basis. The police actively protect these illegal hunters . We need justice

[@lower_gaming2846]

fr

[@davegoldfarb]

FOR 30K U CAN COME HERE AND HUNT PHEASANTS AND DEER

[@dinxruntings]

ya Mum

[@petemulhearn7787]

@@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 Hunting is NOT illegal, trespass is illegal.

[@mark84t]

Carbon Capture and Bio Diversity will work along side the mgmt. of the moors in their current capacity. The ladder trap is a well known tool for catching jackdaws and crows which is what we saw and to protect both livestock (lambs as well as baby grouse) as well as maintain a sustainable habitat. Could Channel 4 review the moors above Lake Vyrnwy which has been managed by the RSPB. The total drop in wild birds has been significant and yet is never mentioned. However, the managed moor not too far away is seeing an abundance of wild birds, including goshawks and hen harriers...

[@theotheseaeagle]

How is it showing an abundance of raptors when they are constantly being culled? Go to any driven grouse moor and chances are the only thing you will see is a grouse, maybe a crow or couple of lapwing if your lucky. Then go to a moor where it’s still managed (e.g burning/cutting heather) but not used as mono-culture for grouse and you will see tons of curlews etc. I can understand that ground predators do need to be managed in some circumstances, but culling corvids and birds of prey won’t help any endangered species, especially when you take into account corvids and raptors have a very minimal impact on overall bird populations

[@dave6148]

There are no Goshawks that have any chance of lasting more than a few weeks anywhere near a grouse moor. They will either be shot or poisoned. Fact. A part of any Gamekeepers remit is to rid the area of raptors and predators. I really wish these country idiots would stop trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@dave6148 not everyone from the countryside is an idiot, only the people that kill rare and protected species

[@dave6148]

@@theotheseaeagle my apologies- I didn't mean to imply that all 'country folk' condone this illegal activity.

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@dave6148 no worries

[@toriesout2702]

“It’s not a sport when the other side don’t know that they’re playing”.

[@dinxruntings]

No shooting . No Grouse.

[@martinda7446]

Like Tottenham?

[@ChrisJB]

@@dinxruntings Tommyrot. They are a UK native bird that has been here at least since the end of the Ice Age, ie pre-grouse shooter and gamekeeper.

[@pessimistprime4877]

@@ChrisJB come to Ireland and see how many native grouse there are. There are an estimated 400 breeding pairs. We have no commercial grouse shoots on the island of Ireland. We also have no Red Kites, Osprey or Eagles. This is because fox, magpies and crows, have been the dominant predators. There is only a limited food supply so all other competitors are struggling to establish. Do you see my point? Like it or not, the managed shoots produce more varied species in greater numbers compared with non managed lands.

[@ChrisJB]

Yes, but we have those three raptor species in habitats where no driven grouse shooting takes place and where predators aren't 'removed'. Your point also illustrates beautifully that red grouse aren't dependent on grouse moors (contrary to what Silver Back above says). My point being that those species can happily exist where grouse moors do not. I have driven grouse moors close at hand and I have decent moors close at hand, so comparisons are straightforward. And with my experiences of both, I am confident in my assertions that the archaic management of grouse moors impacts biodiversity harshly, whether it be raptors, waders, small mammals, amphibians, reptiles and/or invertebrates. I have spent some time in a conservation capacity in Eire and whilst not overly blessed with raptors, it makes up for it in other ways. ATB, Chris

[@wharfeego]

Well done Alex Thomson. Perhaps the BBC could man-up and tell the real story, instead of beating around the heather bush, and siding with the tweed-clad wildlife killers.

[@maiqueashworth]

I think they could easily replace the jobs they lose if grouse shooting were shut down with tourism jobs if these places became nature reserves. Stopping the grouse shoots and allowing trees to grow so that wildlife would return to these areas would make them much more attractive to tourists. At the moment they are wildlife deserts as a result of the current use of the land. And actually the public aren't allowed in these areas as they are reserved for the wealthy who pay large sums of money to shoot grouse there.

[@G7UKH]

as a shooter for 50 years, anyone who breaks the law should be prosecuted.

[@i-am-dio7689]

We will be the reason of our own extinction

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

Extinction

[@James-oo1yq]

That's for sure...but it'll be some lunatic like Trump pushing the nuclear button...not Beta Males shooting Birds

[@dinxruntings]

Cool.

[@jamieabbott9970]

How do they know its dead all i can see is the goshawk killed the birds in the cage. A LEGAL cage and took the bird out so too prevent it from harming itself and narrow minded people saying thats what happend too it and thats what you should believe even Chris packham sayes there is dishonesty ON THERE SIDE about sum off there accusations towards gamekeepers ? Thanks fore reading

[@zulbhatia3597]

Jamie Abbott Did you not see him beating the Goshawk with a stick? If the keeper wanted to release a live bird, why not just let it go without putting it in a sack first. Clearly, he wanted to hide the evidence

[@SGTsniperkill71638]

No evidence that the bird was killed? Removed safely in a bag to prevent panic, and checked for injury’s before being released. Where’s the crime?

[@alexdobson8482]

This is totally bias against the shooting industry !!!

[@larrylad24]

When reporting facts is seen as bias you might have to consider you're on the wrong side

[@Imsuper656]

Bloodsports for overprivilliged sociopaths, BLAH!

[@dinxruntings]

Its a Human thing. Not a "overprivilliged sociopaths" thing ya Mug.

[@markwinter1325]

Over privileged 'Psychopaths ' more like.

[@paulhargreaves5176]

I am a HGV driver not really over privileged also if we were psychos we could not have fully licensed firearms

[@sidewindersid4180]

Oh give it a rest

[@stevem4038]

I don't game shoot and I don't hold with illegal raptor persecution and I have a lot of respect for CH 4 investigative reporting but this piece has to be one of the most bias, inaccurate, poorly informed and inflammatory pieces of journalism I have ever witnessed. Come on CH 4 you can do so much better than this. The positive is that I will be using it as case study to teach journalism students "how not to"

[@philippdase3626]

As a shooter its lovely to see people like you who aren't part of the comunity but still suport us when we have to deal with the media like this. Thank you

[@DaraM73]

Great report. And Scotland?

[@dinxruntings]

lick lick lick

[@philippdase3626]

Peatland stores are the dencest carbon stores in the world. Burning allows the habitat to be just as fruitfull as it used to be, jsut on a smaller area (due to forestry, building, and road networks). To suggest that grousemoors only have grouse on them is a sign of imbecility that we only see from the media, and the infirm, we have the largest number of wild birds including raptors on land managed for grouse shooting. No one in the industry agrees with breaking the law to allow for a gain on their shoot. If we didn't love the enviroment and want to care for the animals in it, why would we be live in it and manage it for all wildlife and flora.

[@dibel3669]

Please tell me they at least eat them and don't throw them away or hang them up as trophies. Killing for fun is the most degenerate thing a human can do to hurt our ecosystem..

[@callumharris2235]

Not ok, biased reporting from channel 4, I understand the keepers didn’t talk but the would have been told not. The work the Keepers do for the moors hasn’t been covered fairly. Go and look at other habits toke over by the government which has gone to S**t. It isn’t fair to judge all gamekeepers or field sportsman on the agreed bad actions of a small amount of keepers shown. 👎

[@theotheseaeagle]

I guess that’s kind of true. People should be blaming the landowners really and not the gamekeepers who are just doing their jobs

[@anthonylewis2080]

Guessing the £100,000,000 made for the economy immediately exempts the hunters from prosecution : one penalty for some, others escape punishment - hypocrisy comes to mind!.

[@dinxruntings]

Boy the Left now wants law and order. lol

[@matthewfoley3929]

Would love for someone to explain where they get this figure from. Seems unbelievable.

[@ChrisJB]

Bullshit figure that. I don't believe it.

[@BKKNOW1]

This is what gives the shooting Community a bad name, this must stop.

[@jebbo-c1l]

thats disgusting

[@kingjsolomon]

Disgusting

[@johnsweda2999]

It's outrageous you should be charging any money at all that's the problem here! it comes under the Queen's Estate it should be free for anybody as her subject to shoot. the Queen's estate and the government should be funding the upkeep of the Land. Be good to track where this money is going.

[@Bob_Dub]

Too right!

[@isupportthecurrentthing.1514]

No one should be allowed to shoot other animals for fun . C'mon , we can do better than that now .

[@simoncooper8272]

Oh John you really are a moron! I'd like you to be shown some serious corporal punishment for your attitude, dimwit!

[@johnsweda2999]

@@simoncooper8272 go on then educate me! just insulting somebody shows that you are of little worth something you would wipe on the grass. what don't you like about my comment!

[@simoncooper8272]

Sure you think it's ok for people to shoot birds if it's free! Government doesn't fund any royal land! Or it wouldn't be royal land! Bet you voted Brexshit too? It's all yours for free! Hence the dimwit, dimwit!

[@dave6148]

I work near Pickering in the North York Moors. Some of my customers are either gamekeepers or landowners. Off the record they will tell you that this is standard practise not the exception. In their words, all estates do it. Pressure is put on gamekeepers by landowners to rid these areas of all raptors and predators- fact. Grouse shooting should be finished. Imagine all the countryside that would be opened up and the wildlife that would flourish. Ps I remember just a few years ago stumbling upon an illegal deerhunt (with dogs) involving 8-10 smart 4WD's near Cropton. That was early morning New Years day. Too many people with money involved in all this. Pps would love to see someone explain how this brings 100 million pounds to the economy every year! What utter garbage. An abuse of our Land by the 'elites'.

[@theotheseaeagle]

Hunting with dogs is something saddos with nothing else to do with their lives do to pass the time (this does not include using dogs for retrieving I mean using dogs to illegally kill foxes, badgers, deer etc).

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

Just start a new sport, grouse Hunter hunting, as soon as you see them jump on their land rovers. You follow them with your own land rovers. Start picking them off, might be a good laugh. I would pay good money for that. Any grouse hunters that want to challenge me on that, go ahead. 👍

[@James-oo1yq]

Where do I sign up? Sounds great fun

[@joe44523579875]

Yep, let’s see how they like it

[@dinxruntings]

the real ugly,nasty left crawls out into the open.

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

Silver Back doesn’t matter at this point does it left or right, a nasty p.o.s, is a nasty p.o.s. I’m only offering a fair alternative. 🤷‍♂️

[@James-oo1yq]

@@dinxruntings Cry me a river...boo hoo 💪🏼😎

[@edwardfisher3735]

Never heard such rubbish .

[@timmo491]

I dont know any shoot manager or keeper who wears a zip up hood. Set up lol

[@jamamafegan4]

You’re in complete denial. There’s a prosecution on its way, it’s obviously not a set up.

[@timmo491]

@@jamamafegan4 being in the profession as legal Counsel, I can tell you that a proverbial coach and horses will be driven through that 'prosecution' such as you maintain. Good luck all the same.

[@tommyjames9450]

Shooting is simple No shooting no grouse

[@ParcelOfRogue]

Issues are often ambiguous. There is no excuse for killing birds of prey, especially rare ones. Also burning the moor should be ended. But after that it is all positive and could continue without those practices. There is little else you can you with that land that will employ locals. The sheep barely break even and could be virtually ended by brexit tariffs at 40% to the continent where most of lamb and mutton is sold.

[@turquoiseowl]

in fact the UK imports the same amount of lamb as it exports; then the new export markets for lamb will eclipse current ones no problemo

[@Chezombie]

Gamekeepers who engage in this kind of behaviour want locking up. Sadly that won't bring the lost birds back. Our raptors are precious, conserving them is more important than ever as they are facing threats from humans, climate change, habitat loss and more. It's SO sad. Crimes against birds of prey are not punished half as harshly as they should be. It should be a minimum of two years and/or an unlimited fine at the very least. Not ALL gamekeepers are like this, many gamekeepers appreciate the importance of birds of prey and are actively involved in helping other gamekeepers proof their stock and improving local habitats. It's those few that aren't that want rooting out and punishing, they want making examples of!.

[@Akeeperslife]

Don't make false claims about the ladder trap It is perfectly legal to catch corvids. It is not there to catch birds of prey. And .....grouse moors have a plentiful and varied wildlife.

[@lilliankeane5731]

Surely they are vital to the entire natural ecosystems...I had no idea they trapped, burnt, and poisioned too. Its dispicable... and for the privileged few! Its got to stop...

[@Francois_Dupont]

0:35 why is your reporter going after people less than 2m away and not wearing a mask?

[@harriskhan2126]

Please could you bring those people in Justice 🙏🙏

[@dinxruntings]

Same for them BLM terroists.

[@union310]

So one sided when you think that 1 in a 1000 game keepers have been convicted. How many police officers out of a thousand have been jailed for criminal activities?? Its rather more. As for the wildlife on the moors, how do they account for the fact that managed land has more wildlife of every kind than any RSPCA or RSPB land . The outcome for burning is to steralise the land which promotes growth and insects and habitat for birds. Where as chemicals destroy water courses and kill everything down stream as well. As for a fair interview , this was like a piers morgan style , interview everyone else at leisure then ambush people who have paid for a day or at work. Poor poor interviewing techniques the media use today.

[@Grime443]

Disgusting that's all I can say 😤

[@alexdobson8482]

I shoot but I totally disagree with killing raptors You also haven’t got any actually got any keepers to see what they think and grouse keeping actually encourages biodiversity!!!!!!!!!!

[@davidperry5789]

I'm not either way. But find it ironic, that shooting say pheasants. A bird which I constantly try to avoid. They mostly sit in the middle of the lane not moving even after a blow on the horn. Sometimes to the point of having to stop, and exit the car to move it on. Seems they have any perception of self preservation bred out of them. The wild birds are gone instantly! I'm certainly not decreet in the car lol. Anyway enjoy your sport guys, I guess.

[@daintytattooer7434]

There’s to much money been made from this it’s not going to stop anytime soon

[@ozosborne9716]

So it wasn't a hunter or a game shooter it was done by a keeper. Also people keep moaning about controlled burning well if they stop the controlled burning u get un controlled burning that is worse

[@isolationnationn]

Tree planting?! You wouldn’t have a moore if you did that. Lack of knowledge of the areas potential indicates lack of intention to follow through.

[@DeLunny]

You'd still have a moor, it would just be more diverse in species. It would no longer be a man made monoculture of heather. These areas weren't heather monocultures going back in history and supported far more abundant and varied wildlife.

[@isolationnationn]

@@DeLunny Biodiversity as your only goal ignores the niches certain (endangered) species need, and ignores the dramatic loss of heathland the UK has undergone over the last few hundred years. Its a rare habitat, and different habitats naturally have different levels of biodiversity. Planting more trees would just kickstart succession and yes, that would destroy the moor. Dramatically changing the habitat is indeed a terrible idea for said species and for the wider conservation of heathland. “Plant more trees” is a way to increase biodiversity in degraded or destroyed habitats yes, but destroying a rare habitat for woodland that we already have a lot of is a terrible idea.

[@ctakiute]

So medieval, so coward, so unnecessary. Don't come over the Amazon Forest, as wolfs. Mind your own butts.

[@danielblake8956]

Bo lox to the economy, & how much game hunting brings to our economy. Raptor Persecutors should carry harsher sentences. Game hunting Persecution, we need more trees & soon, bio diversity more important. Rivers more important. Grouse hunting not important to our country. Air quality important. Food & clean water important. Shelter from heat or cold of weather important. Pheasants ar nt NATIVE Species.

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

Where was the 'undercover' bit of the report. Even the trail cam type footage of the cage was probably done by someone else and maybe even with permission.

[@simoncooper8272]

What's your point? Anyway pay attention the first part of the video where the hawk was killed and the other bait birds were discarded in the stream was covertly filmed! Let's go out n shoot some birdies, if it moves they can kill it!

[@ZlONIST_OCCUPlED_GOVERNMENT]

I see there’s a few comments saying that the video simply shows the Goshawk being removed from the trap and bagged to probably be removed to a safer area.. But if you watch the video carefully there is a section of the video chopped out, which I assume is to censor the actual murder of the bird. Watch the video again.. and pay attention. Can you see any movement of the bird inside of the bag ? If the bird was still alive you would see the bag jumping around with the bird’s powerful wings trying to make its escape because it would be in full panic mode.. I used to beat the grouse moors for around 20 years.. and we all knew what was going on, it was an open secret.

[@erdevon3257]

Release the bird,set trap on fire, when keeper comes to investigate, kick sense into the swede

[@Mr-WesleySnipzzz]

😳😳 they make so much money 💰 from this

[@dinxruntings]

HOW MANY ANIMALS DO CHANNEL FOUR EMPLOYEES EAT, EACH YEAR IN THERE CANTEENS. serious enquiry. "Channel four aids and abets the Slaughtr of thousands of innocent chickens,cows,lambs and Pigs" Cancel channel four please.

[@kazzarthompson6931]

I believe the queen should be prosecuted she knows what’s going on down with the monarchy

[@fod1855]

What a dumb comment

[@bl00dhoney]

Do these eat them?

[@isleeparoundoverland7583]

Grouse is lovely yes

[@huntwatchuk6406]

Excellent news report. Those gamekeepers 🤣

[@Francois_Dupont]

so instead of telling the game warden they just filmed it and called a reporter... of course totally not organized outtrage.

[@mattjameson1453]

They turn it into the police and they are doing something about it.

[@petemulhearn7787]

All very convenient having a camera set up and catching a "hoody" taking a bird from a trap then without evidence claiming the bird was killed. Perhaps the police should be investigating the people who reported the alleged "crime"

[@michaelrch]

Weird. I am 100% on the side of the Duchy of Lancaster!!

[@whatadollslife]

wtf ran across the screen at around 3:09 ?

[@ianhargreaves7550]

Red Grouse

[@kazzarthompson6931]

Leave the birds of prey alone you get caught catching a goshawk ect 20 years each they are all lying they are happy to shot goshawk hen harriers outrageous

[@joannebarton7492]

This not Joanne it's her son: I'm not against shooting for game at all in this country, it's been going for hundreds of years... To tell you truth wild rabbit and pheasants is nice to eat. I've never had grouse but I bet it's nice on a plate.. and I think the killing of the raptors bird of prey is bad.... I am against our UK government in you allowing the killing of hundreds of Pitt bull dog's each year and the other band breed of dogs, when any dog can bite and be dangerouse.. You the UK government are not saints you no.

[@garethhodgson1404]

Killing Raptors is out of order, lets not lose this great sporting tradition though, great wild meat, wish i could afford it!

[@kleinweichkleinweich]

oh thank God they are not Gauß shooting

[@isleeparoundoverland7583]

A gamekeepers trap, what honestly next to a road, think about the people that are setting up things to make it like gamekeepers etc, also the hawk went in a bag to get let loose probably

[@sueharvey8692]

Such a one side piece... incidentally the bird captured was not seen being killed... was probably have been released elsewhere!!

[@jordanhill1780]

Complete b.s.

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

What you expect.? You think everyone there knows all about the things that happen around them..? Not everyone up there is omniscient I don't reckon.. 🤯

[@GEMahler]

What is "rare" about goshawks? Quite common actually.

[@ChrisJB]

Have you any evidence to back that up? Not that scarceness or commoness has any relevance of course.

[@GEMahler]

@@ChrisJB datazone.birdlife.org/species/factsheet/northern-goshawk-accipiter-gentilis

[@ChrisJB]

The 'global' map only shows them as widespread. It cannot possibly illustrate individual countrywide populations. In the UK (where this took place) they are a rare and much persecuted species.

[@GEMahler]

@@ChrisJB Even in the UK, they are not considered endangered species in any way. The population is stable. In fact the black grouse of which the goshawk is a predator is endangered and is on the red list for conservation. However if you are worried simply plant more forests and depopulate the UK. Perhaps we can have peasant shooting season to replace pheasant and grouse shooting.

[@ChrisJB]

@@GEMahler The UK population is indeed stable, stably low at around 350 pairs with localised declines and displacement, often due to persecution. The Peak District population adjacent to the Moscar Estate being a prime example. I'm glad you made reference to black grouse, as they are a species I observe regularly in North Yorkshire, County Durham and Cumbria and I'd say populations in these locations seem reasonably consistent in the several years I have been observing them. Besides, so what if goshawks (and foxes and mustelids, etc, etc) take a few? That's nature, a natural predator- prey relationship. Either way an illegal act has, in all likelihood, taken place here and the conduct of the '(cough, splutter) custodians of the countryside' in the film did their cause no favours either.

[@blackbob3358]

ALEX/...CHANNEL 4, MASSIVE. this evil is getting pared down; they're doomed, and they know it.

[@indianscout4487]

Cowards with guns, killing defenceless animals for fun.

[@Reddoc4890]

i think god abandoned us

[@arronparsons1986]

Wow....what an utterly biased video.

[@LittleCharliesadventure]

Good job Channel 4.

[@turquoiseowl]

Who wears a a balaclava in the summer? How do we know it was a goshawk?

[@jamamafegan4]

You’re in denial. Stop asking ridiculous questions.

[@turquoiseowl]

@@jamamafegan4 not denial, just want to know for there are almost zero goshawks on the NYM but loads of other hawks such as sparrowhawks.

[@Teeb2023]

@@turquoiseowl _"there are almost zero goshawks on the NYM"_ That's kinda the fucking point. Jeez.

[@turquoiseowl]

@@Teeb2023 no answers so more questions: Why does the 'hidden' camera move three times during the incident? Why are three jackdaws put in the trap, but only one remaining when the raptor arrives? Why does it take several minutes to kill the raptor (going by the movement of the sunlight on the hill)? Smells more than a bit fishy. Staged.

[@ChrisJB]

@@turquoiseowl Not true at all. There is a well watched raptor watchpoint adjacent where goshawks are seen reasonably often. I speak from experience of course. And does it matter what species of hawk it is? It's still illegal. If it is indeed staged as you confidently assert, the man in question and the industry has nothing to worry about.

[@gavinturner5565]

Great story Channel 4!!!

[@michaelmichael2596]

one sided one .

[@blackbob3358]

all ya can really say is, massive brownie points to alex and ch 4. as for what appertains forthwith, who knows; but .alas, we've got this womble at the helm. vote everbody, ffs.

[@bobbiehorseman]

What a load of rubbish 😂😂

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

I have an idea 💡 ❕ Why don't we get Elon to build the new Super Gigafactory there instead! Then that would make all parties happy, aye ⁉️

[@gavinturner5565]

It would save me shooting the two legged bores!!!

[@timmo491]

Seems like they were trespassing on private land and causing nuisance which is an offence. In addition, the person being filmed could quite easily be one of the trespassers. Just a normal anti- shooting trick and not a credible one.

[@cloudycider]

And Luke Steele is a jail bird. Fancy having him as spokesperson. The film crew and antis illegally obtained a Forestry Commission key to access land in order to film.

[@timmo491]

@@cloudycider of course they did. It will all come out in court (but it wont ever get there).

[@paddymc1722]

NOWT TO SEE NOWT TO SAY ?????? Is your reporter taking the Mike out of the yorkshire accent I sincerely hope not if I were to do the same with other accents I would be labelled a racist

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

I should hope he is not!

[@paddymc1722]

Sounded like it to me

[@James-oo1yq]

Stop crying you child! An accent isn't a race 🤣

[@tolgakuyucuk5923]

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[@paddymc1722]

Child ? I'm 35 chief and nobody said an accent is a race dumbarse .

[@robertskolimowski7049]

As usual, great reporting Ch4News on the urgent (but not very popular, at all, among other news outlets) matter👏👏👏

Brits and their hobbys..... Brexit now guys please😤

[@AyanKhan-lu5em]

Goraya neee mao neeee …

[@Cxthyx]

Shooting should be illegal it’s unfair on the poor innocent animals

[@c4four132]

the deer population would be utterly out of control

[@davidjames1653]

Arrest all of them, this is a major crime!!!!

[@mrboom303]

Over a stinking rat bird you guys are crying about

[@jamessmith84240]

Money

[@jamesbeers2484]

I get the fact that killing endangered birds is bad and that those that kill them should be prosecuted but this is the most biased thing I have ever seen! It’s ridiculous that this can be made by channel 4 and all the people that see this and think that every gamekeeper kills endangered birds. Its just misleading for members of the public that do not shoot game as 99.9% of gamekeepers do not kill endangered birds. Although, those that do should be prosecuted.

[@Nigel-nar53]

Great piece Channel 4, Thank you. Please keep up the pressure on the over privileged. On a lighter note. Who were those little Green Men? I thought little Green Men didn't really exist!

[@andrewmckay2118]

Channel woke at it again preaching more hate of British culture. Just More More and more I am bit surprised they didn't send a Black reporter.

[@shoebil3412]

There's nothing wrong with hunting!!!

[@philippdase3626]

The Goshawk wasn't trapped purposfully but even as a member of the comunity I believe that this behaviour is ridiculous and we should prosecute when people do illegal thing in whatever industry sector.