ILM Al KALAM Ki Bunyad , Maqsad Aur Afadiyat - Javed Ahmed Ghamidi

[@GhamidiCIL]

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[@FaisalsPoetryOfficial]

Half an hour discussion on this topic is simply insufficient. Commented beautifully by Ghamid Sahib though.

[@zawarhussain3687]

Simply impressive. At times I disagree with Ghamdi sb on certain religious interpretation yet I consider him one of the greatest religious thinker of our time.

[@yousafzaiaa7453]

ماشااللہ غامدی صاحب کی گفتگو اتنی منطقی، واضح اور مدلل ہوتی ہے کہ زیر بحث موضوع اس طرح واضح ہو جاتا ہے جیسے سیاہ اور سفید رنگ ایک دوسرے سے بالکل الگ اور واضح ہوتے ہیں اور ابہام کا کوئی اندیشہ ہی نہیں ہوتا۔

[@khalidh.shaikh9018]

ASSALAMUALAIKUM My Honorable USTAZ E MUHTARAM, May ALLAH KAREEM Shower His Countless Blessings on your kind self and your Respected Family (Aameen). Regards

[@makki9972]

Ghamidi sahib, salamati ho aap par aaj meri bohat bari uljhan door kar di aap nay. Allah(SWT) aap ko ajr e khair ata farmae, aameen!

[@hakai02]

Great gamidi sir Allah pak ap ilm ko aur asrariyat ata kre

[@makki9972]

Ab tay kar lia kay hamain sirf Qur'an o Sunnat hi rahnumaee faraham kar saktay hain, subhan Allah.

[@sardarzadianzalnanoor9927]

An exceptional kind of lecture by a great scholar.....MashaAllah.......understandable

[@Dawahdude0]

MashaAllah Ghamidi proved that Book of Allah swt is the only Source of All Knowledge and The Guidance of Muhammad PBUH is the Best Guidance. May Allah swt reward Ghamidi sahab Ameen

[@ihsanrehman8701]

اللہ آپ کی عمر میں برکت دے صحت رکھے

[@fawazmushtaqdar8730]

A perfect explanation 🙂

[@miananwarulhaqramay8594]

واہ زبردست غامدی صاحب

[@zafarkhan-oh3rf]

Excellent explanation on a complicated subject..JazakAllah

[@muhammadshafeeq5663]

Jazak Allah Ghamdi sb is a Great scholar and blessing for Muslim umma.

[@muhammedmustafa6293]

Subhanallah!!!! No word to comment on it...

[@usman_saadat]

One of the best and insightful discussion by Ghamidi sb on philosophy's contribution towards Ilm al Kalam's beginning, and limits of human knowledge. Been rewatching it again and again, and learning a lot each time. Jazaka Allah sir!

[@truthseeker8228]

Alhumdulillah, may Allah guide us. Allah pak Ghamidi sahab ko achi sehat.

[@javediqbal423]

Assalam, Ustaad e Aazam e Asr Javed Ahmad Ghamdi Hafiza ullah 💟💗💖💓. God bless him 💓 long life and perfect health ❤️💯💝💖💗💐🤲. Ameen summa Ameen ❤️💜🧡💛💚💙

[@Trueseculardesi]

I disagree with Ghamidi Sb. on a number of fiqh issues but from the core Islamic perspective, we need more ulema like him who can break the shackles of scientific and social stagnation among muslims.

[@javediqbal423]

I, extremely proud, we live in the Era of JAVED Ahmad Ghamdi Hafiza ullah

[@freespeak111]

May Allah keep you safe and healthy

[@Dawahdude0]

This is great topic we must continue it

[@healtheducation5022]

ماشاءاللہ غامدی صاحب اللہ تعالیٰ آپ کو برکت عطا فرمائے۔

[@khateebahmad6738]

SubhaanAllah doodhh me se pani nikal diya Allah aap ko sehat se nawazein Ameen

[@malik_e]

We need another round of Zaawiyae Ghamidi. This time perhaps with only Ghamidi Sahib speaking. The format of the last series did not quite work with quantum jumps initiated by the young keen minds leading to parallel universes being dealt with in one go! We need an in-depth discussion on epistemology and meta-physics in the light of the Quran - acceptance or rejection of key philosophical, mystical axioms and delimiting the scope of the mutashabihaat. To explain a bit, Ghamidi sahib on a number of occasions mentioned an idea or an assertion from the kalam, philosophical tradition and said that this was contradicted with alternative guidance provided by the Quran or the Quranic corpus. Would be most beneficial for him to elaborate on those sorts of deeper existential questions.

[@imranahmad360]

Exactly. I'm also keenly looking forward to that type of program by Ghamidi Sahib again, with some mature questioners and participants.

[@fayazulkarimmemon7705]

The great scholar of the present era of Muslims

[@mamaonline7994]

one of the master pieces of Ghamdi shab.

[@rizwanmallick4884]

Ghamidi Sb.: May Aalh give you longevity with health so we can avail of your knowledge about Deen and enrich our understanding. RM.

[@farrukh4385]

Behtreen sir solved my problem as on few hurdling questions in the past.

[@mohammadhassamuddin6510]

Extraordinary discussion by Ghamdi sb.

[@pindigheb100]

Discussion on ilm e Kalam clarified much, JazakAllah

[@wasifahmad182]

Breathtaking intelligence he has 🖤

[@zafarkhan-oh3rf]

Superb explanation. JazakAllah

[@Natural.Science]

Very informative discussion. Well said.

[@syedmehmood4026]

SubhanAllah. 💖Kmaal hai 💞

[@azmatalikhan1254]

بہت خوب غامدی صاحب !

[@MultiRmw]

Kindly discuss more... it's very interesting...

[@sikandarkhan7641]

Wealth of knowledge. MashaAllah

[@naeemsiddiqui5288]

Sir you are a great modern day Philosopher

[@zaroonbukhari4715]

May Allah SWT bless you good health

[@Farooqueakhan]

صحیح کہا غامدی صاحب نے، مذہب کے معانی اسکے مصدر یعنی ذھب (چلا یا چلنا) سے ہی نکلتے ہیں : وہ چلنے کا راستہ جو کسی نے بنادیا ہے یا بتا دیا ہے۔ تشریحات اور افکار اور افہام اور تفہیم کو علوم کہا جاسکتا ہے, مختلف اور متنوع اقسام میں رکھ کر ان کو سمجھ سکتے ہیں۔ لیکن مذہب میں بحوث یا کلام کی ضرورت یا کہئیے کہ جگہ نہیں ہے۔

[@YusufKhan-ip5wf]

اللہ آپ کو جزائے خیر دے

[@sharjeeljawaid]

Jazakallah

[@adamjan8011]

Truly logical and perfectly meets our Islamic paradigm to approach what they call knowledge...a Muslim appreciate the use of impericism but not the ultimate mean of seeking the ultimate truth..which is trasendent or beyond the physical being..and only that knowledge can be an ultimate truth...not the self-messed-up European philosophy...

[@KAMALK320]

Great as always

[@raanimughal8405]

Plz mazeed guftago ki jae is moozou p...

[@kamranhashmi009]

Beautiful ❤

[@tanvirabbasi336]

MASHALLAH JAZAKALLAH KHAIR

[@MrRDXUSMAN]

Mashallah

[@uubhai689]

Mashallah You are a true hero

[@sheikhwishakh6383]

Superb Ghamidi sahab

[@zaidqureshi7855]

I love you ghamidi sahab ♥️♥️♥️😘🔥

[@sayeedmohammad8398]

Bahut khoob..

[@muhamaadhashimjavaid5264]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH 💕💕💕🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷💐💐💐❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍👍

[@anisislam7102]

People should be taught in the language they understand.

[@abdullahafridi1590]

Well, learn urdu. Simple

[@Treeeche]

Usstad_e_muhthram🌹🌹🌹

[@shaikhmehmoodjilani2115]

Masha Allah

[@theunityofthejust-justifyi7951]

Ghamdi Saab, I love you. And, I hate you. This was a vide that grew my love for you. Vey well stated.

[@fayyazmehmood4015]

Umdah Tajzyyah ikk Umdgi k saath

[@fayyazmehmood4015]

Al Quran ul Azeem u shaan

[@fayyazmehmood4015]

Woow Illmi akhir ya k jaisay mallaik na khha ka hamm utna hi jan skkay jitna Allah ne bttaya

[@jadugarqatil]

@27:25 closed captions needs editing. The Quran has actually _razed_ its very foundations. Kindly take note.

[@suhailasim9462]

Ghamidi sahib God bless u

[@techtimes1985]

عظیم انسان جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب

[@SardarzadaSahir]

Get educated always.....❤❤❤

[@muhammadArshad-tt5tu]

100 percent agreed

[@chtalhafaizan9983]

Gamidi sb is great

[@asifsaeed309]

Ghamdi sb's eloquence and knowledge is remarkable. I tend to agree with his arguments but shy away from his convictions. He rightly condemns philosophy and logic for being too imaginative. Unfortunately he deploys same imagination and logic to further his personal faith. I wish he had shown some skepticism for his own understanding about the nature of the truth.

[@adamakhtar6989]

Apparently you missed his main point that is if you are going to criticize him or anyone else you should come from the door of Quran aur sunnah..

[@greengalaxy8873]

@@adamakhtar6989 , True. However, is it possible to discard subjectivity and become 100% objective when we approach the Quran and Sunnah. It is very important to address this issue.

[@wazirali9766]

Wow 😯😯

[@waqaskhan1803]

Aap se Guzarish he k Jab bhi Hazrat Muhammad Salallahu Alaihi wa Alihi wassalam ko Pura parha karein.

[@kokabsarosh8028]

بھیٔی غامدی صاحب سے کہیں کہ جب پانی پیا کریں تو اسپیکر کو میوٹ کردیا کریں ۔ غٹ غٹ کی زوردار آوازیں سماعت پر گراں گذرتی ہیں ۔ شکریہ ۔

[@ayaanferoz6045]

اللالله أكبر سلامت رہیں سر جناب یہ بات بھی واضح کردیں بھلا ساٸنس کس طرح نفس انسانی پر کام کرسکتی ہے یا اس کو کھول سکتی ہے جب کے اس کا کوٸ مادی وجود ہی نہیں،

[@thenomadprofessor]

Is english translation of this debate available anywhere?? I can't understand most of the typical urdu words

[@shujath9176]

They have added English subtitles now, incase you haven't checked yet.

[@farrukh4385]

Mutakhayala kisey kehtey hain? Khayali pulao?

[@fireinblood8997]

Jab aap elmul Kalam ko nahee mantay .. nai khwab ko nahee mantay Yani naik khwab elmul Kalam k tanazur mai hai ... Es ko nahee mantay ? To Huzoor SAW sai maahaz ki BAAT ki kiya standing reh jaati hai?

[@peacegood9004]

❤❤❤🎉

[@akhtarshad3903]

Pher Ea Mohammad Ham ne tumhare tarf wahi ki k Ebraheem P.B.U.H. ka tareeqa ekhtayar karu. Al Quran.

[@47humza]

Molana zafar ali khan kah share bhi koi likh skta hy idhr?

[@ShahidHussain-qg7ob]

Best lecture

[@47humza]

Iqbal ka share koi likh skta hy jo ghamdi sab ny quote kiya hy?

[@AliHaider-hy9sh]

ہیگل کا صدف گوہر سے خالی ہے اس کا طلسم سب خیالی

[@motasimmasood3248]

Can someone please guide me as to what exactly is ILM AL KALAM???? I have heard this word so many times but I can never find a concrete definition. I believe the word MUTAKALAMEEN also comes from KALAM???

[@sanaullahkhan1920]

Muslims who were highly impressed by philosophical concepts and philosophers, they tried to solve philosophical concepts and questions in the light of Religion(Islam). In fact whole school of thought of mutakalimeen was based on philosophy and their understanding was biased due to the influence of philosophy. Due to this philosophical understanding of religion the ilm e kalam was introduced.

[@motasimmasood3248]

@@sanaullahkhan1920 Thaaank you,, but how would we define ilm e kalam ? is it a subconscious way of communicating with God? or simply the philosophical bias in religion would be called ilm e kalam? kalam with who????

[@musbahalfarah442]

What’s the meaning of “istanbaad’ which he uses frequently. I would be grateful if someone explains

[@pskandiwal4308]

Deductive reasoning

[@al-shifatibbifoundation5660]

استنباط

[@aliusmaan]

It is istanbaat...meaning deduction استنباط

[@syedqamberalikazmi1001]

نکالنا، چننا، نتیجہ اخذ کرنا۔

[@abdullahzafar2942]

Istinbaat does not necessarily mean deduction, it simply means to infer. So, the inference can be both deductive or inductive. However, when this word استنباط is used in the context of Islamic jurisprudence(فقہ), it is usually defined as: to infer the solution of a sharai issue on the basis of the sources of Shari'a (Quran, Sunnah) by using certain rules of inference (اسول).

[@narjissyed3802]

Answers are very calculated just like any educational book issued by governmental controlled institution for students from class 10 to m,A,or even phd .research for Pakistani Muslims ..unfortunately,but the solution remains still controversial for common people who want their real salvation by religion ..answers are very very tricky to dodge minds with mixing of general truths and equivocal approach ,

[@malik_e]

So is real salvation through the labyrinths of Ilm kalam?

[@timegain8732]

If these questions were for you what would be your answer. let us know then we will stop listening Mr. Ghamdi.

[@guess-the-best8609]

Ghamidi never gives clear answers on ilm e kalam. First he endorses motazilite stance in his own words. Then he also accepts Hunblite stances. How crooked of him.

[@blumenbauer7820]

🌺💯👌🌺

[@imtiazdar7787]

*أعوذ باللہ من الشيطان الرجيم، بسم اللہ الرحمٰن الرحیم، اسلام عليكم و رحمتہ اللہ، غامدی صاحب کی اس ویڈیو کے ابتدائی پانچ سات منٹ کے متعلق ایک چھوٹے سے طالب علم کا مختصر سا تبصرہ فی سبیل اللہ اور سوالات* 👇 *بقول غامدی صاحب: "تو یہ وہ چیز ھے جسکی طرف 'میں' نے توجہ دلائی ھے کہ جب ھم مذھب بیان کرئینگے یا کوئی بھی شخص مذھب بیان کرئے گا تو اسکو سب سے پہلے یہ بتانا چاھیئے کہ اسکی اس بات کا ماخذ کیا ھے؟ قرآن ھے؟ سنت ھے؟ رسالت مآب صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے یا پیغمبروں نے یہ بات کہی ھے؟" چونکہ غامدی صاحب نے اپنے اس جملہ میں مجرد لفظ "مذھب" استعمال کیا ھے یہ نہیں بتایا کہ مذھب کے کون کون سے پہلوؤں کے متعلق بات کرتے ھوئے مندرجہ بالا ماخذ بتانا ھونگے اسلیئے ایک چھوٹے سے طالب علم کا ان سے یہ سوال ھے کہ اس کمنٹ کی ابتداء میں جو "أعوذ باللہ من الشيطان الرجيم، بسم اللہ الرحمٰن الرحیم، اسلام عليكم و رحمتہ اللہ" لکھا گیا ھے میرے خیال میں میرا یہ عمل مذھب بیان کرنا ھی ھے تو سوال اصل میں یہ ھے کہ کیا مجھے اسکے بھی ماخذ بتانا ھونگے؟ جزاک اللہ خیر،* *افسوس صد افسوس کہ امت مسلمہ کے ابتر حالات حاضرہ میں غامدی صاحب اور ان جیسے دیگر محترم علماء کرام کیلیئے دوسرے بہت سے نہایت اھم موضوعات موجود ھیں جو فوری طور پر علماء کرام کی منطقی و مدلل گفتگووں کے متقاضی ھیں جیسے گستاخانہ خاکے بئے حرمتی وغیرہ وغیرہ جو کہ برسوں سے مسلمانوں کیخلاف ایک انتہائی گہری چانکیا سازش ھے جس میں کئی پاکستانی نام نہاد علماء کرائم اور دیگر بڑئے بڑئے آستین کے سانپ شامل ھیں! علماء کرام اس اھم موضوع پر نہ خود منطقی گفتگو فرماتے ھیں بلکہ اس موضوع پر کسی بغیر داڑھی والے کے بولنے لکھنے کو بھی اپنی انا کا مسئلہ بنا لیتے ھیں کہ اللہ اور رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے اصل مجاھد تو ھم ھیں تم اپنے حدود میں رھو تمہارا علم بہت کم ھے پہلے ھمارے جتنا بئے عمل دین سیکھو، خدا کیلیئے بس اب رک جاو کیوں اپنے چھوٹے چھوٹے دنیاوی مفادات کی خاطر عوام الناس کے دماغوں سے کھیل رھے ھو؟ آسان سادہ متبادل الفاظ ھوتے ھوئے بھی کیوں ثقیل ثقیل الفاظ کا استعمال کر کے اشکال اور پچیدگیاں پیدا کرتے ھو؟ یہ کیسے تسلیم کر لیا جائے کہ آپ لوگوں کو پاکستان کی شرح خواندگی کا علم نہ ھو؟ کیوں انکو جان بوجھ کر نہیں بتا رھے ھو کہ اللہ زوالجل نے بار بار علم حاصل کرنے کا کیوں فرمایا ھے؟ کیوں عوام الناس کو جان بوجھ کر نہیں بتا رھے ھو کہ اللہ کا عطاء کردہ انسانی تخیل ھی تو ھر موجودہ ثابت و تسلیم شدہ سائنس کی اصل بنیاد اور اساس رھی ھے ھمیشہ؟ کیوں جان بوجھ کر اللہ کی مخلوق کو یہ نہیں بتلاتے ھو کہ علم لامحدود ھے مگر عملی طور پر کوشش کر کے اس میں سے کچھ حصہ وصول کر سکتے ھو جو اس دنیا کے مادی و فطرتی قوانین کو تھوڑا سمجھ کر اور سچے دل سے اللہ کی بندگی و خاتم الأنبیاء رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی اطاعت کر کے اپنی عارضی زندگی اس دینا میں عزت و سادگی سے گزار سکتے ھو؟ بہت سالوں سے دل میں کرب و اذیت چھپا کر خود کو ان گستاخانہ خاکوں بئے حرمتی وغیرہ پر لکھنے سے روکا ھوا ھے کہ آپ علماء کرام میں سے کوئی اس گہری چانکیا سازش کا انکشاف کرئے! عوام الناس میں سے کسی نے اگر اس بارے کچھ لکھ دیا تو آپ علماء کرام حسب معمول اسکو بھی اپنی انا کا مسئلہ بنا لو گے کہ اپنے حدود میں رھو تمہارا علم بہت کم ھے! اب لگتا ھے کہ ٹوٹے پھوٹے الفاظ میں خود ھی اس گہری چانکیا سازش کا بھی انکشاف کرنا پڑئے گا اللہ پر توکل کر کے اور جہاد فی سبیل اللہ سمجھ کر،* وما علینا الاالبلاغ المبین *Pakistan date and time: Tuesday 15th September 2020. Time 17: 37*

[@hakai02]

Bahot hoob dear. Mujay Yaqeen hei ager hum Sehi Al ilm logon ki sangat sy joray ray tu kafi humre ishkaalaat sulj jayein gay. Allah Hume Hadayt ki rah pay rakhy ameen

[@s.m6514]

Very tough to understand

[@fireinblood8997]

Sari batain ulti bata rahay ho .... Elmul Kalam Khuda sai Kalam k zumaray mai aati hai

[@mdidrishahmed8146]

You seem to me to be quite self-contradictory , sir , for the Islam that you claim to heve purged of the after -growths resulting from philosophical speculations is , after all , what you find it to be on the basis of your understanding of the scriptures . Who will solemnly affirm that your understanding is absolutely what Allah or His Prophet actually means ?

[@muhammadsaadali388]

He never claimed that his understanding is the correct one. His stance is that this is how he has understood religion solely from content related to its source i.e. the Prophet pbuh. His understanding of this source is neither philosophy nor sufism nor fiqh. It is an understanding of the religion. That understanding is based on strong arguments within the framework of the religion itself i.e. Quran and Sunnah. Nevertheless, his understanding may have its flaws (like all human endeavors) - which is exactly why he is always open to criticism and questions.

[@fh-cn5io]

who will solemnly affirm that who's understanding is absolutely Allah or his Prophet (s.a.w) actually mean ?

[@flyhigh2044]

He never said that my interpretation of Islam is the best , he said if someone wants to know about Islam then the only way is through Qur'an and Sunnah not philosophy or science or any other knowledge. Just pure revelation nothing else.

[@malik_e]

He has never claimed finality in his 'understanding'. His entire mission is an invitation to critically examine his views and to accept or reject those. Besides he stands firmly within the Islamic tradition as represented by the fundamental pillars of the faith so that there is no hazard of heresy that attends his views. There is a difference between arguments rooted in the Quran and Sunnah and conclusions derived therefrom applying the discursive methods of the Farahi school - yes he is a noble and brilliant heir to a longstanding and magisterial scholarly tradition and not a solo flyer - and those that propagate myths, superstitions, fancies, even bigotry and prejudice rooted in thin air yet passed along as authentic religion.

[@khairabadi_inst]

At its core, Kalam is a paradigm of thinking that aligns with truth and provides rational explanations for theological concepts. The Indian Subcontinent produced some of the greatest experts of Kalam over the course of centuries. A significant contributor to this chain of prestige scholarship, especially in the last few centuries has been the Dars-e-Nizami curriculum, designed by one of the leading scholars of his age, Mulla Nizam al-Din Sihalwi (d. 1747 CE), after whom the curriculum is named. The Khairabadi tradition was a major offshoot that contributed heavily to the Kalamic process. Much of their work needs in-depth exploration.