The Sound of the Proto-Italic language (Numbers, Vocabulary & Sample Text)

[@Sanzianabel]

grandmother- italic father- latin children- corsican,sardinian,sicilian,occitan,catalan,french,italian,spanish,aromanian,romanian,portugese etc. lol

[@teletek1776]

great grandfather: P.I.E

[@eamonn5020]

They really went at it

[@littlebylitttle5866]

@@teletek1776 great grandfather would be Celtic-Italic.

[@juancruzespinosa6526]

Ufff The truth is more complicated It would be rather Ultra grandfather: Proto Indo-European Great-great-great-grandfather: Italo Celta Great-great-grandfather: Italo Great-grandfather: Latino Falisco Grandfather: Latin archaic Father: Liturgical Latin (classical) Children: Western and Eastern Romance Grandchildren: Iberian Romance, Gallo-Roman, etc And so it goes for 1500 years to the present Ibero romance: Spanish/Castilian (my language) Austurian-Leonese Galician Portuguese Upper Aragonese Judeo-Spanish/ladino Occitan romance: Catalan / Valencian Occitan Gascon Gallic romance: French (langues d'oïl) Arpitan/Franco-privençal Gallo Italic: Gallo italian Venetian Retorromance: Romansh Ladin Friulan Italo Dalmatian: Istriot Tuscan Corsican Gallurese Sassarese Central Italian Neapolitan Sicilian Wallachian languages: Romanian Istro-Romanian Arrumanian Megleno-Romanian Sardinian language.

[@deithlan]

Italic probably had more descendants besides Latin, but since Latin was the only one that lasted, we’ll probably never know the others.

[@ANTSEMUT1]

A lot more closer to P.I.E than i was expecting.

[@alloeloise]

You can hear the early PIE dialect slowly morphing into Latin.

[@AlexIncarnate911]

I don't know why but that sent a chill down my spine. An ancient language being born from an even more ancient language.

[@florin521]

@@AlexIncarnate911 i thought i was the only one getting those haha

[@aryyancarman705]

@@AlexIncarnate911 same

[@Hypie582]

seks

[@Alex-eb6je]

to me sounds like viking turning into spanish lol.

[@9_9876]

Proud to be Latin 🇷🇴🇨🇵🇪🇸🇮🇹🇵🇹

[@RealShrigmaMale]

Same :)

[@tuamadretuopadre2002]

Why Romanian flag? We aren't latins by blood

[@nessunoniente3722]

@@tuamadretuopadre2002 sì ma il romeno rimane una lingua neolatina, anche se con qualche influenza slava

[@seid3366]

@@tuamadretuopadre2002 Romanian is a Romance language, along with other Eastern Romance languages. It just sounds less romance because of other languages influencing the language, like Slavic and Germanic (except Hungarian, which is Uralic, not Indo-European)

[@henrybaudelaire4456]

It is interesting to see that most of these words are still used in my language (portuguese) but in a more evolved way

[@ArthurPPaiva]

É absurdo como algumas palavras evoluíram no latim e para nosso idioma regrediu. istō > istud > isto

[@Tranxhead]

Most of the other Romance languages are the same.

[@ChristianJiang]

It’s wrong to talk about evolution and “regression” when speaking of language change

[@jean-sebastienbarbe-dufresne]

@@ArthurPPaiva Não regrediu. « Istum » evoluiu em « isto » e « ipsum » evoluiu em « isso ».

[@henrybaudelaire4456]

@@ArthurPPaiva istud (la) > isto (pt) e ipsum (la) > isso (pt)

[@elgranlugus7267]

As someone who speaks spanish, i can understand and pick some words here and there.

[@lavitorroja2632]

Same ! it's fascinating

[@MrFubuki]

Si hablas catalán o gallego más todavía xd

[@markitosevans1955]

Lo mismo digo jajaja

[@kornet_85]

Los números y una que otra palabra nada mas es mas legible el latin

[@guilhermeduarte7192]

It's wild that I, a native Portuguese speaker, can understand so much from such an old language. Yes, I know it resembles Latin, and people from other linguistic backgrounds, as long as they speak Latin, have the same feeling. But there's something really awesome about speaking a language so similar to this "fossil". I just love it

[@imrukiitoaoffire1908]

YES! I've been genuinely wondering about the sound of this language, given I've heard plenty of later Italic and Romance languages.

[@massimolisoni4990]

It's definitely similar to latin. But it's also similar to modern italian (I'm Italian). And it was 3000 years ago.

[@maxopaladinos]

It's incredible how this is such a beautiful language, I speak Portuguese I understood a lot, it's like understanding Indo European

[@pnkcnlng228]

I love the fact the Kwando means where while in italian Quando means whem

[@thiagodeandrade8969]

The same in portuguese

[@pierdurin]

It also means "When?" (interrogative) in Latin.

[@DoctorDeath147]

Same in Spanish (cuando)

[@MarkoMikulicic]

also because PIE for "where" is kʷo-bʰí (see latin 'ubi') and in this table is 'when' is ~kudei~; looks like a simple typo in the table to me

[@gigaxan]

In kazakh "qayda" means "where"

[@annapag89]

The history of languages and how many of them are related, is fascinating!! I speak Greek, English and Spanish and in every video i discover something new about the development of languages! 🧡

[@annapag89]

I found many Greek words in it

[@Evan-xv7ph]

I was actually super excited to see this, since I've been really interested in Proto-Italic reconstruction since I started studying Latin. I noticed one small potential problem with the translation, though: shouldn't we have *fefaked for "fēked"? iirc Latin fēcī was formed out of analogy with the perfect forms of other verbs like ēgī < agere, and we have an attestation of Old Latin "FHEFHAKED" for Classical *feficit < facere (compare cecidit < cadere) with a reduplicated perfect stem.

[@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh]

Make in English?

[@captainch6182]

Proto-Italo-Celtic would be cool. My personal theory is that it expanded with the Urnfield culture, and the two branches split around 1200 BC, with the southern tribes migrating into Italy, and the northern tribes going on to form the La Tene culture.

[@srikrishnak196]

If it not were for Roman expansion, today we would be hearing Griko dialects and Oscan(in a modern form) in italy. Latin would have died like its sister language Faliscan.

[@sandu-vd7fi]

Prito-Italo-Celtic can be confirmed, if Proto-Celtic and Proto-Italic are more similar between them than with other indo-european proto-languages (Proto-Germanic, Proto-Balto-Slavic, etc.)

[@iltoni6895]

Exactly what I thought! Although I'd say it was a tad earlier

[@asinglebraincell6584]

I sort of noticed 'Ku' for dog is still used in Celtic. This would be so interesting to hear

[@masynbeene5485]

Wow Cool theory

[@berserker3184]

There were many italic languages in Italy before latin, latin is just one the italic languages

[@TheRealGigachad1848]

Similarities I noticed with portuguese (some might be false friends, idk; also some are not the most used word for the thing): 1 - oinos - um 2 - duō - dois 3 - trēs - três 4 - kʷettwōr - quatro 5 - kʷenkʷe - cinco 6 - seks - seis 7 - septem - sete 8 - oktō - oito 9 - nowem - nove 10 - dekem - dez I - egō - eu you - tū - tu we - nōs - nós you - wōs - vós that - istos - isto (this) how - kʷām - como not - ne - não many - moltos - muitos some - partim - parte (part) few - paukos - poucos other - aljos - outros long - dlongos - longo wide - stlātos - largo heavy - gʷrawos - grave (grave) short - breɣʷis - breve (brief) thin - tenwis - tênue (tenuous) woman - fēmanā - fêmea (female) man - wiros - viril (viril) man - hemō - homem, humano (human) mother - mātēr - mãe father - patēr - pai animal - anamālis - animal fish - piskis - peixe bird - awis - ave dog - kō - cão louse - pezdis - piolho tree - arðōs - árvore forest - selwā - selva (jungle) fruit - poomos - pomo (pome) seed - sēmen - semente root - wrādīks - raiz bark - korteks - córtice/córtex (cortex) flower - flōs - flor grass - grāmen - grama skin - pelnis - pele meat - karō - carne blood - sangwen - sangue bone - os - osso egg - ōwon - ovo horn - kornū - corno tail - kaudā - cauda feather - plow(k)smā - pluma (plume) hair - kriznis - crina ([horse]mane), crista (crest) head - kaput - cabeça ear - auzis - ouvido (ear canal), audição (hearing) eye - okʷelos - olho, óculos (eyeglasses) nose - nās - nariz tooth - dents - dente fingernail - ungus - unha foot - peds - pé knee - genū - joelho hand - manus - mão wing - akslā - asa belly - wendtris - ventre back - dorsom - dorso breast - pektos - peito heart - kord - coração to drink - pibō - beber to bite - mordeō - morder to suck - sowgō - sugar to vomit - wemō - vomitar to laugh - reideō - rir to see - widēō - ver to hear - awizdjō - ouvir to smell - odō - odor (smell) to sleep - swepjō - sonhar (to dream) to die - morjōr - morrer to sit - sedēō - sentar, sedentário (sedentary) to turn - wertō - virar to fall - kadō - cair to give - didō - dar to hold - haβēō - haver (to have) to squeeze - premō - espremer to wash - lawaō - lavar to pull - traɣō - trazer (to bring) to throw - jakjō - jogar to tie - leigāō - ligar (to link) to say - deikō - dizer to sing - kanō - cantar to float - flowitō - flutuar to flow - flūō - fluir to freeze - frīgēō, gelō - esfriar (to cool), congelar to swell - tumēō - tumor (tumor) sun - swōl - sol moon - louksnā - lua star - stērolā - estrela water - akʷā - água lake - lakus - lago sea - mari - mar salt - sāls - sal stone - lapis - lápis (pencil) dust - polwis - pó (powder), pólvora (gunpowder), polvilho (starch) earth - terzā - terra cloud - nouðetis - nuvem fog - neβelā - névoa sky - kailom - céu wind - wentos - vento ice - gelus - gelo smoke - fūmos - fumaça ash - kenis - cinza mountain - monts - montanha red - ruðros - rubro green - weyziðis - verde white - alβos - alvo black - niɣros - negro night - noks - noite day - djous - dia cold - frīgos - frio full - plēnos - pleno (full/complete) new - nowos - novo old - senos - senil (senile), sênior (senior), senhor (sir) bad - malos - mal rotten - pūtos - podre dirty - swerdiðos - sujo, sórdido (sordid) straight - rektos - reto round - rotontnos - redondo sharp - akowtos - agudo (acute) dry - seikkos - seco correct - wēros - vero/verdadeiro (true) near - prokʷe - próximo right - deksteros - destro (right-handed) at - ad - a in - en - em with - kom - com and - et - e if - sei - se name - nomən - nome

[@sameash3153]

Those aren't false friends, Portuguese descends from Latin, Latin descends from here.

[@franco2359]

Bom trabalho relacionando todas essas palavras, é interessante como as línguas evoluem.

[@TheRealGigachad1848]

@@sameash3153 You missed the point of my statement. I said that I'm not sure if all of the Portuguese words are listed are actually descended from their correspondent in Proto-Italic. I checked some I was not sure about and it turned out they were similar just by coincidence, but I didn't check all of them.

[@diogorodrigues747]

There are some differences between Portugal and Brazil. In Portugal you would say "sénior", "ténue" and "fumo" (the last one is actually closer to Proto-Italic).

[@galgar5660]

Beautiful language. Even though, being all the other Italic languages not fully known, I always have the sensation that this is based mostly on Latin

[@hopelessfool6722]

In this case is quite the opposite, is Latin that stemmed from Proto Italic like other languages in the italian peninsula prior to the expansion of the Roman Empire

[@doggynolikey]

It is fascinating seeing the "kwe" that is used to mean "and" that has survived all the way into language like latin before dying out.

[@michelmartens6282]

Wow this is really cool! there's even words similar to german too

[@masterjunky863]

Because German has many words of Latin origin

[@Behemot_]

Awesome now I can understand many words. I'm spanish.

[@ammognich888]

I speak italian (language derivative from latin) and i have understand many words

[@didonegiuliano3547]

Very interesting now Sky Atlantic has released a new series Romulus about the founding of Rome and they speak in proto-Latin, a variant of proto-Italic. So proud of my country Italy!!

[@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh]

You have a beautiful country. Truly blessed by the Good Lord. 'To whom much is given much will be expected' - the Holy Scriptures.

[@sovietunion6109]

selwa means forest, in spanish selva means jungle, SO COOL

[@victorlikesmetal3662]

Do European Portuguese or Old Portuguese please

[@viictor1309]

Já fizeram

[@tuggaboy]

@Michael Chan Middle? High? Low? Portuguese isn't German.

[@sandro-schmitt]

Falo português gaúcho e entendi tudo. Noto que números, pronomes, substantivos ligados à natureza e verbos que dão idéia de movimento mudaram pouco do proto-itálico para o português e espanhol nos últimos 3 mil anos. Incrível ! Só as frases da fábula de Schleicher que achei meio complicadas !

[@sandro-schmitt]

@Michael Chan There's no exist 1 Brazilian Portuguese. In Portuguese America (actual Brazil), the people ever was very diverse, othermore the territory is giant today. The Google use only the standard from Rio de Janeiro for the Portuguese in the New World, but actualy exist 15 or 16 dialects of Portuguese language used in Brazil.

[@masterjunky863]

Wtf is "european portugues"?

[@ArthurPPaiva]

Hey! If you want, i can do galecian-portuguese!!

[@royafeghali6590]

I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THIS 👌❤️🔥

[@prenuptials5925]

vulgar latin next? (if somehow possible)

[@marioverde7267]

The vulgar latin don't exist

[@captainch6182]

@@marioverde7267 it sure does. It was the Latin that was spoken as a vernacular by most people living in the Roman Empire. Classical Latin can be seen as the ‘standard’ form like Received Pronunciation is in English, but the people living in rural areas or provinces would speak the informal Vulgar Latin. It developed into many dialects, but it can be distinguished from Classical Latin by its palatalization, loss of some final consonants, and shortening of most vowels.

[@elgranlugus7267]

@@marioverde7267 Vulgar Latin is technically what people spoke everyday. Classical Latin is meant to be the written form of Latin. VL the V sounds like a V CL the V sounds like a W

[@rasapplepipe]

@@marioverde7267 well I'm Latin and I'm pretty vulgar.

[@destinee2052]

There are several vulgar latin. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[@gerostoumoria]

It's very similar to ancient Greek

[@TenorCantusFirmus]

Classical Latin also sounded much closer to ancient Greek than late ("ecclesiastical") Latin do - Seems like the farther in time you delve, the closer the various Indo-European Languages get.

[@michalreingraberskaliasmiz185]

Hello! I am from Slovakia (a Slavic country) and I noticed some similarities between Slovak and Proto-Italic, maybe because of the connection with Proto-Indo-European. I am going to put some pronounciation rules of Slovak first, for better reading: c - /ts/ č - /ch/ š - /sh/ j - /y/ ch - /kh/ ä - /æ/ 1 - oinos - jeden 2 - duō - dva 3 - trēs - tri 4 - kʷettwōr - štyri 5 - kʷenkʷe - päť 6 - seks - šesť 7 - septem - sedem 8 - oktō - osem 9 - nowem - deväť 10 - dekem - desať I - egō - ja you - tū - ty we - nōs - my you - wōs - vy that - istos - _ten _ , istý (sure, same) how - kʷām - ako not - ne - ne-, nie many - moltos - mnoho long - dlongos - dlhý thin - tenwis - tenký mother - mātēr - matka dog - kō - _pes_ , kuna (marten) seed - sēmen - semeno bone - os - kosť egg - ōwon - vajce tail - kaudā - chvost feather - plow(k)smā - perie eye - okʷelos - oko nose - nās - nos foot - peds - _chodidlo_ , _noha_ , päta (heel), pešo (on foot) knee - genū - koleno heart - kord - _srdce_ , koryto (trough), hruď (chest)* to drink - pibō - piť to suck - sowgō - sať to laugh - reideō - _smiať sa_ , rehotať sa to see - widēō - vidieť to sleep - swepjō - spať, sniť (to dream) to die - morjōr - zomrieť, mrieť to sit - sedēō - sedieť to give - didō - dať to pull - traɣō - ťahať to float - flowitō - plavák to flow - flūō - plaviť sun - swōl - slnko lake - lakus - _jazero_ , vlhký (wet) sea - mari - more salt - sāls - soľ wind - wentos - vánok, vietor ice - gelus - _ľad_ , hladký (smooth) white - alβos - biely night - noks - noc day - djous - deň full - plēnos - plný new - nowos - nový correct - wēros - _pravý_ , _správny_ , veriť (to believe), overiť (to verify) near - prokʷe - _blízky_ , _neďaleký_ , proti (against), oproti (in front of) name - nomən - meno *Heart (kord) is within the chest (hruď). Chest may be relatable to trough (koryto). But this is just my own thought. I don't say there this indeed connection.

[@Almaz-o8l]

the word "spat" ( спать - Russian) is not connected with the word "sleep" but ist connected with the word "slaby" (слабый) - weak.

[@Szylek]

Nothing connection, there is typicak slavic in polish very similar to slovak.

[@srikrishnak196]

I can see a bit similarity of proto italic to Sanskrit and Lithuanian

[@everforward8651]

It's amazing that there are words that are exactly the same in Sanskrit and Lithuanian, such as "sunus" ("son") and "avis" ("sheep") and "naktis" ("night").

[@emanuelebucolo3574]

They are all Indo-European language, they share a common root

[@biljanatodorovic5998]

‘Sin’, ‘ovca’ and ‘noc’ in Serbian

[@user-ep8xo1od9o]

The word reading is just ōōōōōōōōōō

[@SinilkMudilaSama]

Proto Italic is the base of all continental langs of Italy, that's include latin, latin is modified and changed by Italic, not the reversal, yet etruscan, oscan, falisc, umbric came from Old Italic etc... Latin came from Corse, Sardinia Islands derivated from theses island langs a neosassarian lang born from sassarian lang.

[@PLUTONIUM1228]

really simmilar with proto celtics

[@Bn9776]

I speak Spanish and Portuguese and I can pick up most of this words.

[@aslayda7094]

Os= ağız (Turkish) ( mouth) Keze= gezmek (Turkish) ( to walk)

[@Abd.331]

Great Job On Your Video! Edit: Damm, What an abuse on ō

[@flusdock8526]

'Cause they are all verbal forms Like in Latin

[@antiochussoter377]

The language of Romus and Remus.

[@happyspanners]

I hope to one day come into the comments section on one of these videos and not see people saying “it sounds like x and y”, where x is a daughter language and y is a closely related language group. Yes, we get it, you read a Wikipedia page and want to look smart.

[@kohterg3713]

It's a language channel moron. Let people be.. the only one pretending to be smart here is you. *debil*

[@Mara-ub3tq]

...and you don't accept the uniqueness every language has

[@foottoast4235]

Ik 🤦🏼‍♀️ People are literally talking about how similar it is to Proto-Indo-European when it's the literal descendant of it like...

[@solemnpenance8134]

Nice

[@dislike__button]

You should make side by side comparisons of related languages (like Proto-Italic and Proto-Celtic, Romance languages and others), that would be very interesting.

[@ilovelanguages0124]

Well... good thing. That's the next video! :D

[@FirstLast-hz8ut]

@@ilovelanguages0124 hi please do Proto-Indo-Aryan and Proto-Indo-Iranian. Thanks.

[@nutyyyy]

@Nomen viteliù Its very difficult to reconstruct due to a lack of any real writing.

[@KommentarSpaltenKrieger]

It seems like nouns stay similar longer between different branches of Indo-European than verbs.

[@sleepycryptid8275]

Kind of interesting how where in proto italic is kwamdos while in Spanish cuando is when. Interesting.

[@francescomassari2313]

Hi, before on your channel there was a video about classical Latin, now it is no more, why?

[@fidenemini111]

Quite sizable number of parallels with Lithuanian (not mentioning numerals - some are almost identical). It is obvious when you are a native speaker and familliar with dialects.

[@MarcioSilva-ssiillvvaa]

Nice to see my family name there.

[@schumi26]

Interesting 😀

[@giodavid991]

If possible you should try Scythian, if are known enough words

[@veranarosa8500]

Sounds like a mixture of Latin and Greek.

[@samaccardi]

You can hear where a lot of it continued into Italian and the different dialects too. Like Sicilian, and how that kept a lot of the more Vulgar Latin-ish pronunciations/spellings. For example, keeping the u endings of words but dropping the s.

[@galgar5660]

It's the ancestor of the Italic languages: Latin, Oscan, Venetic, Umbrian (and other ancient languages) and of all the Romance languages.

[@Merluzz]

Nah.

[@geronico11]

yep! many many words, to give =dido (διδω), goneo (knee, γονατο) and many other

[@JoshKid-kv6uv]

Can You Do Australian English Dialect Pls?

[@rao2398]

Lol

[@sonnysonny5087]

From Proto-Italic "is" in Neapolitan language "isso"= he

[@aslayda7094]

Jekor=ciğer (Turkish) (liver)

[@slayer_starswirl]

I notice cloud is called “nepela”, I wonder if this is related to “nebula”? In any way?

[@dalubwikaan161]

Sounds latin and PIE at the same time.

[@jeffondrement160]

So Proto-Italic was basically a Q-Celtic language, related to Irish

[@srikrishnak196]

Can you do a video for sinhala ,please. I would love to see it.

[@GIF_CANCEL]

So many words are like Spanish

[@arvantsaraihan5777]

river: *flowman? wow

[@joseluismartinalonso1736]

Flumen. That´s the problem when you write a germanic language with latin caracters. And the fonetic alphabet does not help too much. Flumen, same root than fluid and possibly flow (but nothing with the plural of man)

[@sinarzaito8741]

Are these written in the International Phonetic Alphabet?

[@Dorian_ball]

Yes

[@danieledamico9729]

For portuguese , spanish, french it’s normal that proto italic is similar to your languange since your languages came frome proto italic.

[@ReviveHF]

Sounds very similar to proto ce;tic and proto germanic.

[@TarebossT]

Fun fact: "pugno" (fight)" gave in Romanian "pumn" (fist), because you use the fist to fight :)

[@mrtizio13]

In Italian "Pugno" = Fist as well

[@mr.osamabingaming2633]

And Spanish puño

[@edwincancelii2917]

Proto-Italic is the ancestor of Modern Spanish, including Latin American Andalusian Spanish & Puerto Rican Andalusian Spanish.

[@lutuzi1139]

cool video of proto-italic language sound so beautiful and interesting thanks for uploading and can you upload another language video please of two language isolate spoken in Indian subcontinent one is nihali spoken in india and other one is kusunda spoken in Nepal :)

[@zhbvenkhoReload]

oinos

[@sameash3153]

Yeah right

[@royafeghali6590]

Proto indo Europeeen >>> Italic >>> Latin >>> | | French / Italian / Romanian / Portuguese / Catalan / Spanish

[@anaeme8250]

El latino era una antigua región italiana de Lacio, el latín solo lo hablaban allá, unos eruditos españoles han investigado y dijeron que las lenguas romance no provienen del latín, el imperio romano hablaba el griego. El latín era una lengua muerta y la iglesia católica lo revivo para sus ritos paganos.

[@krasimirparvanov8139]

No...it's called conquest😉

[@paolox2458]

Proto indo european >>>italic>>>latin>>>LATIN ECCLESIATIC | | etc.etc.etc.

[@quranreader7616]

nice vedeo😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@freecreak408]

Latin was the last surviving one from the proto italic family as they were nearly all wiped out by the proto Celtics from the north, and both proto celtic and proto italic are the same just that proto celtic were northern Celtics and proto italic were southern Celtics.

[@ZombolicBand]

So in the HBO series Romulus, the dude named Wiros is just really called..man? lol. Hey man... Help me man....

[@iulius445]

Im 100% Italian (23 and me results)

[@sofiafochi3724]

❤️❤️❤️

[@MemphisAnimates97s]

Dekem (10)

[@lumizu2091]

1:11

[@vendoaguasa5lucas930]

Really sound like latin

[@Jay-uu5lu]

The numbers are almost like spanish

[@UnQuacker]

0:10

[@marioverde7267]

3:26 "putos" ajajajjaja Please Medieval spanish language 😬

[@sgonzo5572]

where do they get that this was actually proto italic language? Do they base this on a tablet or something?

[@gigistocchi3334]

Which proto-Italic language? The Italic languages were many, perhaps the Protolatin?

[@galgar5660]

All Italic languages descended from a single language, Proto-Italic

[@paolox2458]

@Leandro Poli Comunque gli studiosi sono divisi. Secondo alcuni c'erano 2 ceppi linguistici differenti, il Latino-Falisco (veneto, falisco, latino, ausone, auruncio e siculo) e l'Osco-Umbro con numerosi sottodialetti nelle regioni appenniniche. Forse non è corretto parlare di proto-italico

[@bibiana761]

@@paolox2458 in Piemonte, Liguria ed Emilia si parlava una lingua celtica il ligure, e poi a separare le lingue latine c'era l'etrusco in Toscana, al sud si parlava grecoe in Sardegna molto probabilmente una lingua di origine semitica arrivata da Cartagine o forse ancora prima dai fenici.

[@paolox2458]

@@bibiana761 il ligure non era celtico, infatti al giorno d'oggi la tradizionale divisione dei dialetti italiani in italici e gallo italici è venuta meno proprio a causa del ligure, che non può rientrare nei dialetti gallo-italici in quanto non è di origine celtica, avendo tra l'altro alcune caratteristiche di tipo meridionale. In ogni caso i celti erano degli invasori

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

The time when The Italic or Italian languages had more virility in their language

[@dedchannellawl1370]

Seks means sex in Dutch😳

[@FannomacritaireSuomi]

Oh, those times when Latin wasn't contaminated by Greek yet...

[@nolansato9891]

We need rome language

[@itsmeandrea138]

Watch Romulus. It's an Italian serie based on the birth of Rome. They speak Proto-Latin

[@SinilkMudilaSama]

If you use Proto and Old Italic inside latin, Umbric, Napoletan,Oscan, Romanesco etc and out of Italy in french, spanish, galician, portuguese, catalan, haitian any latine people til today can understand you and can be undersatand the words and phrases quickly with enchatement and fascinious perception way of you talk. Proto Italic lives inside of italics idioms that includes latines idioms too, latin came from sassarian lang andnit was modified by italic and proto italic in continental Italy.

[@whysoooserius]

💜💜😺💜💜

[@brunobassi2440]

Dove lo parlavano questo?

[@bastianodimebag]

Al di là del fatto che si tratta di una ricostruzione, se pur molto precisa ed affidabile, dovrebbe essere stata parlata a nord delle Alpi, scendendo a sud in un secondo momento

[@oswaldlatorre17]

Totally different from now! I didn't got anythingh! (I'm italian mother language) 😅

[@massimolisoni4990]

Davvero? Io vedo molte parole simili...

[@iltoni6895]

@@massimolisoni4990 anche io

[@agustinpereyra9200]

Rotten :v

[@Davi-lx6gj]

?

[@Nista357]

Similar to Serbian

[@domenico.schmidt]

Very similar to Latin.

[@thierrydesu]

You think so??????

[@smorcknight9547]

I wonder why

[@paolox2458]

very similar to italian

[@kurnma3776]

1:04 Sus

[@dgmb9828]

È incredibile quanto sia simile allo spagnolo e non all'italiano

[@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh]

Lo spagnolo e' conservatore.

[@paolox2458]

Per me l'italiano è più simile a questo che al latino Naturalmente è solo un'impressione a caldo

[@anaeme8250]

@@paolox2458 El latino era una antigua región italiana de Lacio, el latín solo lo hablaban allá, unos eruditos españoles han investigado y dijeron que las lenguas romance no provienen del latín, el imperio romano hablaba el griego. El latín era una lengua muerta y la iglesia católica lo revivo para sus ritos paganos.

[@berserker3184]

Perché l’italiano attuale è diventata una lingua finita e non continua, non so se si dice veramente così, però dico che le parole finiscono con le vocali e non con os us is ecc. le altre sempre derivate dal latino sono rimaste in quel modo più meno

[@paolox2458]

@@anaeme8250 ok Ana, se non ci fosse un particolare. Gli eruditi spagnoli non sono attendibili. In Spagna si cambia la storia secondo le convenienze, non c'è nessun rigore, non possono essere presi in considerazione. Italica nel sud della Spagna sta lì a dimostrare che una grande colonia di diritto latino e romano ha portato un gran numero di italici anche da voi, che di sicuro hanno diffuso le sonorità delle loro lingue. Il greco si parlava nella metà orientale dell'impero, poi la chiesa cattolica non può avere riti pagani, se è cristiana, no? Comunque in parte è vero che il latino ecclesiastico è la base delle nostre lingue, non il latino classico.

[@Enzo0694]

it sounds really complicated

[@Merluzz]

Nah.

[@leonardoleo5740]

Latin was probably the closest language to Proto-italic

[@atropabelladonna4752]

so romanian is a very archaic latin

[@ff_crafter]

Nice