The Sound of the Lombard language (UDHR, Numbers, Greetings, Words & Sample Text)

[@BenaiDePruai]

I'm a native lombard speaker. Sadly everyday we get fewer because most of the people refuse to learn it. Also the italian state refuse to recognise it and they decline our lenguage as a simple dialect...

[@lillolollo1217]

Same with Piedmontese.

[@HospedeDoTempo]

Lombard differs much more from Italian than Galician from Spanish does. It is obviously not an Italian dialect but a genuine language.

[@anastasiossioulas83]

I would like to learn it

[@JeckoSTARlaloo]

Maybe the local government can require schools to teach it by setting ordinances? Your language sounds beautiful, it would be a waste not to pass it on to the younger generations.

[@robertocavalli4156]

@@JeckoSTARlaloo unfortunately ever since Italy unified in 1861 the various governments have been trying to create one single Italian culture and one single Italian people, and in order to do so they have been refusing to recognise most minority languages spoken in Italy

[@FlagAnthem]

Italy should fully apply article 6 and protect all her HUGE linguistic heritage

[@gplthebeast]

This is Western Lombard (around Milan) by the way. Eastern Lombard sounds a bit different (Bergamo, Brescia, Mantua).

[@pnkcnlng228]

Actually this is from Como, southern como

[@mrtizio13]

it even slightly changes in pronunciacion and some vocabulary even if you just go north of Milan outside the city itself

[@NequeTamen]

You are right. The Lord's Prayer at the very end of the video is in an eastern variant, though (min 7:00)

[@marcotagliavini9128]

Mantova dicono sia un emiliano lessicale dal suono lombardo, bergamo e Brescia invece sentono forti influenze venete

[@paulpaul6710]

@@marcotagliavini9128 I dialetti emiliani (specie quelli occidentali) e quelli lombardi sono contigui: il mantovano è comunque in gran parte classificato come emiliano, ed i suoni "lombardi" (ö e ü) ci possono però essere anche in emiliano. Si trovano infatti in tutta la regione a ovest del Taro (provincia di Piacenza e metà della provincia di Parma) ma anche a est, nelle zone di montagna fin quasi a Bologna e nella bassa parmense e reggiana. Un vecchio dizionario parmigiano-italiano li attestava anche in città a Parma fino all'800 almeno: ora in città sono praticamente scomparsi. Io che sono di Parma non ho nessuna difficoltà a capire il mantovano, e riesco a capire il 90% del lombardo occidentale, ticinese compreso: sono invece per me molto ostici il bergamasco e il bresciano, specie quelli delle valli.

[@dylanhubbard2162]

My great grand uncle was from Brescia! Thank you!

[@flaviovisconti4415]

So cool! Saludi da Desenzano, province of Brescia

[@MMadesen]

The name of the tribe Langobarden in germanic means Long beards btw. So Lombardy is the land of the long bearded.

[@pnkcnlng228]

We are descendents of them!

[@AndreA-fq6rh]

We descend from them. We are a mixture of Romans, Celts and Longobards. I am half Lombard and half Romanian

[@fredericbiguenet147]

No is the tribe of the long axe

[@pnkcnlng228]

@@fredericbiguenet147 No, We are the Longobards from proto-gernanic Langbarten that means Longbearded

[@pnkcnlng228]

@@AndreA-fq6rh Lombards in reality have little roman origins

[@quindin]

Os meus bisavós vieram da Lombardia e Veneto para o Brasil, assim como muitos outros dessa região.

[@Markxulonis77]

Very similar to occitan and piemontese

[@P3rf3c7B0y]

Sounds like Italian with French. Beautiful.

[@karldo4809]

Nope, Spanish, German, French.

[@nicolocrippa8514]

@Napolengin Bonapterzi It wasn't. The germanic language you are talking about is ancient Langobardic and it got extinct. Modern Lombard is an evolution of Latin, not of ancient Langobardic, though it left some loanwords.

[@Ŏrhunbek]

Wow It is the most beautiful language of the world

[@LuísJarles]

My great-grandparents were from a village near Mantua, in Lombardy, where now this interesting language has disappeared, replaced by Italian.

[@pnkcnlng228]

in realty in the rural areas, like in mantua (that is also the native name of the city) a lot of young people speak it and is becoming popular this days!

[@delphinecouturier6784]

:'(

[@juliusevola5013]

@@pnkcnlng228 that’s true! I come from Mantua

[@juliusevola5013]

What is the village’s name?

[@bepivisintainer2975]

In the valleys, and rural areas in particular in Bergamo, Brescia, Matua provinces lombardian is still alive and well. Many people are native speakers, and is quite well spoken among the youngsters. Is not at all dead.

[@templetonparceley8645]

This is standard meneghino (Milan city) and Brianzolo (Milan's hinterland) dialect, in the west of Lombardy. The eastern Lombard (Bergamo and Brescia) is different, not so much for the words but for the pronounce and attitude in ev'ryday's talking.

[@tk2300]

Please do the Cimbrian language! It is also spoken in Northern Italy.

[@WerazotheLankster]

Do you speak it? Open the description and scroll to the bottom. You have to email them and help with the video

[@matthewodonnell6906]

There are a lot of similarities in vocabulary with French that I wouldn’t have expected (œuf, oreille, feuille, comment ça va, etc.), but the pronunciation reminds me more so of Portuguese.

[@mrtizio13]

it's related to catalan and occitan to an extent

[@stironeceno]

@@TSMGirl And Spain and Austria .

[@bepivisintainer2975]

@@TSMGirl stop saying nonsense. Is because both French and Lombardian are Gallo romance languages. 15 odd years of French occupation cannot shape a language in such way.

[@oliveranderson7264]

As a French speaker, the pronunciation reminds me more of French than Portuguese actually especially because of the closed vowel sounds and the reduction of final «e »/o

[@corpi8784]

North Italian dialectcontinuum with French/Land'Oc influemce and reaches till Occitan/Catalan/Aragonese lands and on the other eastern side this dialect- continuum goes via Friuli/Veneto to Dalmatian

[@hipwave]

As a Lombard I find the pronunciation a bit off but still I enjoyed this, l'è el dialett del me' paeš e di me gent.

[@alvano44]

Chiavenna in the background.. my lovely hometown💜

[@armchairsociologist7721]

I hope Lombards fight (as hard as possible) to keep their language. Despite being the workhorse of Italy, their culture has been aggressively supressed by the Italian state since WW2 and before.

[@pnkcnlng228]

Yeah, our colture is practically no more in some areas. But here in the rural areas are still trying to maintain this traditions, and more and more young people are discovering and enjoying it!

[@armchairsociologist7721]

@@pnkcnlng228 in Milan, finding a native Milanese (with four grandparents who are Lombard) is impossible based on my research. What provinces still have a Lombard culture in your opinion?

[@pnkcnlng228]

@@armchairsociologist7721 Every province excluded Milan and Monza and Brianza. The most conservatives are Sondrio (here a lot of people do not even speak italian) Como, Lecco, Bergamo and Brescia

[@gabrielebonanomi6652]

Thank you so much from Lombardy. Se vedom! See you soon!

[@NaldinhoGX]

Such an amazing language I didn't get to know about until now!

[@Passioneperlatv]

I am from Bergamo and very similar, because it is a "variant" that has turned into a dialect

[@pnkcnlng228]

Ul lumbard sa capiss sempar, la importa minga ul dialett, l'è sempre lumbard e sa capissom tucc!

[@zlatni_orao]

Bye in lombard sounds like something south Slavs would say. Se vedom sounds like our "Vidimo se" meaning "See you around" or " See you" when departing. Also night in lombard sounds same as our noć (Noch) also meaning night. For bed they say Lecc while in serbian to lay down we say "Leći" pronounced "Lechi"

[@pnkcnlng228]

Really coll

[@Gorgonath]

I don't spesk lombard but from my knowledge of italian and other romance languages I'm pretty confident saying that "se vedom" means exactly "see you"

[@galgar5660]

Romance and Slavic languages have interesting similarities in vocabulary. Even sentences can be pretty the same

[@bepivisintainer2975]

as east lombardian speaker I can really agree with you. We have a lot of similar words and Slavic troponins ( even though most people are not aware of that). Boza, (bottle)nocc (night) casa(archaism for glass )sares(e) (cherries). Just to name a few , I found lots of with similarities with Polish , Croatian, and Slovaks friends. My ex from Bohemia used to say that to her ears Lombardian (bergamaque dialect) sounded like a Latin based language spiced up with German and a lot of Slavic influences and sounds. After all, we are neighbors. Not to forget during the Venetian Republic time, Eastern Lombardy and all Dalmatia was the same country. romance speakers used to move there, slavophones used to move here. Not to mention that southern Slavs and people from the Po Valley have always been moving back and forth. I assume you are Serbian from the flag :-)

[@dearomania8289]

That "vidimo" it's from Latin though. And so is "noch", *nocte* in Latin I guess.

[@rickynoodles2816]

Hopefully these regional languages can be revived so people speak them along with standard Italian

[@blindness134]

I've got good news for you, we still speak our dialects in our households and among friends. Also, we speak our local dialects, which might differ to different degrees to the macro-dialects. Eg. I am from Lombardy, but the "Lombard dialect" is the catch-all for the four macro-dialects Alpine, Eastern, Western and Southern Lombard dialects, which are once again divided in many other micro dialects which are once more subdivided by other even smaller groups. As a matter of fact, my dialect is a sub group of Lombard, precisely Northern Brianzö (from the northern parts of the area named Brianza), which is a sub-dialect pertaining to the Briantean Lombard Dialects, which belong to the Eastern Lombard Dialects, which is one of the macro-groups of Lombard. Quite the figurative lingo-matrioska ahahaha

[@SniaVillagePunk]

L'é scrivuu in Scriver Lombard! The old lady of the beginning speaks a Northwestern variant, quite different from mainstream Milanese like the young lady reading the sample text... L'é bel vidé che anca in su l'internet gh'é quaivun che va innanz a parlà la nostra lengoa

[@pnkcnlng228]

Grazzie, fa piasè sentì qa ul video l'è piasu. Mi e la me nona parlom vun dialett de Comm, anca sa l'è pu see simil al branzoeul. Ti qa dialet ta parlet?

[@SniaVillagePunk]

@@pnkcnlng228 mi parli on miston de milanes e brianzoeu, son vegnu grand in Brianza ma el ma pa' e el me nònn i hinn de Milan. Parli pòc scrivi mal ma capissi tutt

[@unknownzzz5115]

Beh ormai direi che il milanese non è più mainstream, anzi io che sono di Milano non ho mai sentito una conversazione in milanese, solo nella provincia, ma mai in città

[@Davvo999]

Lombardia, my land!

[@josephtangredi6728]

Sounds like a mix of Italian, French, and Swiss Romansch...

[@senantiasa]

Some similarity to French in that the language doesn't read (some of) the last letters!

[@Səv]

Gallo-Italo branch

[@dan8884]

Are there any french speakers that can distinguish anything? If yes what percentage of it do you understand?

[@kfwfb534]

The ancient kingdom of Lombardia and the Cisalpine Gaul people stretching from Grigoni down to Romagna are a people worth preserving but thanks to italianisation and massive immigration from the south and other areas has resulted in the language dying and the being a minority. Young Lombards are around 20% of the population in Lombardy..

[@nicolaramoso3286]

You can almost say that is mutually intelligible with Venetian, when spoken slowly of course.

[@pnkcnlng228]

Actually not, the grammar is very different

[@nicolaramoso3286]

@@pnkcnlng228 I can understand almost everything he says so... The grammar might be different but it is understandable nevertheless

[@pnkcnlng228]

@@nicolaramoso3286 Just like Spanish and Portuguese

[@rudolfschenker]

This is definitely a bit unusual for all the Northern Italian languages. I'd be curious to know how much Celtic and/or Frankish or French influence it might have.

[@pnkcnlng228]

A lot

[@ITALICVS]

There's a celtic substratum and no frankish influence

[@kfwfb534]

The areas with the strongest Lombard culture are where the greatest amount of pure lombards are -sondrio, parts of Bergamo, Brescia, lecco, to a lesser extent Cremona and Mantua. The genetic gene pool of northern Italy has changed more than just about any western population in 70 years due to internal migration

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

Lumbard language, a story about a volcanic archipelago far away from Europe, and uilleann pipes. That's some whiplash right there.

[@almirante_kiko]

Many words are modern and sure that language is extremely different from the ancient Lombards language,For instance the name Portugall for orange is probably from XV century and makes reference of Portugal exporting oranges across Europe

[@SK-zi3sr]

If a language were a mix of French and Italian, it is I that guess

[@stironeceno]

The dialect spoken in the region of Parma in Emilia ,has a mix of Italian and French .

[@karldo4809]

Not only french. Germanic too with the words and the phonetics and umlauts.

[@thewhovianhippo7103]

Aye thanks I'm quater Lombard I'm trying to learn it too

[@karldo4809]

Check neque tamen channel on KZbin.

[@oldvideogamesheaven3416]

It is very close to catalan and occitan.

[@ariannacasa769]

I'm a native lombard speaker!

[@MrMikkyn]

The writing looks French, but the pronunciation is like a cross between Germanic and Catalan, but with singsongey melodiousness of Italian. Almost Maltese sounding.

[@tuggaboy]

Mirandese language (second official language of Portugal) please

[@HeatherFisher-p3s]

Oh❤I LOVE this !!

[@Dionysus784]

i like the background music

[@kimdracula0713]

The town in the photo is Chiavenna

[@bababashqort3598]

this one sounds very different from other Romance languages. I can hear something similar to Spanish here, but this one is unique by some sounds. Interesting language, thanks for the video!

[@anonymousbloke1]

More like french, not spanish. Lumbaart is gallo-romance

[@kame9]

no, sound italian, occitan and catalan, main sound is like italian tone.

[@KINGONE6XIV]

Mixed with German

[@andreafumagalli1154]

Lombardy has been occupied by Spain for centuries, so the language has been influenced: for example the word "pencil" is almost the same (spanish: lapiz, milanese: lapis)

[@masterjunky863]

Best song in this beautiful language: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3Sol3WujKaribM The lyrics written in the video are in Italian, not in Lombard.

[@alloeloise]

Why does the accent remind me of, of all things, the English East Anglian accent? Perhaps some kind of structural coincidence? Kind of like how the Welsh accent sounds almost South Asian at times.

[@jingjong5675]

Because it has Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian influence, due to Longobardic superstratum, as well as Celtic influences. It sounds like Normand.

[@frank_zapping]

Really? Very interesting!

[@jmoneymaker96]

Sounds like some celtic or germanic influenced it compared to straight italian.

[@pnkcnlng228]

It is true becouse the Lombard are a germanic people group with celtic origins

[@emanuelesol1096]

The Germanic stratum is only a thin super-stratum. The roots of Lombard, deeper than Latin, are Celtic.

[@nicolocrippa8514]

@@pnkcnlng228 The ancient Lombards (Longobardi) were a germanic people with no Celtic origin. Moder Lombards have many different cultural and ethnic influences, including Celtic and Germaic, but culturally and linguistically we are mostly a Latin people.

[@nicolocrippa8514]

@@emanuelesol1096 No, it's mostly Latin with a Celtic substratum.

[@mxkinist]

0:54

[@hdjddihjdudd7618]

With many influence of german longobardic language.

[@NSAJ33]

Sounds much like Spanish and French combined. Thanks for this!

[@stephanobarbosa5805]

Os italianos compreendem bem o lombardo ?

[@luccicchio]

eu, um italiano, entendo bem

[@blindness134]

L'era úra de vedess quaivünn che la spegax la nòstra lengua!

[@dumpsta-divrr365]

first guy's spitting flames yo

[@ntnntl96]

Bona sira like in Sicilian.

[@aaronjaroniewskyy244]

Hehe.... lombard in Polish translates to pawnshop (:

[@pnkcnlng228]

I think it's also a singer right?

[@bepivisintainer2975]

Hi I made a wee research about that. The word apparently originates in the middle ages. Lombardians used to go all round the continent establishing banking institutions and pawnshops. In the English speaking world you often find "Lombard Street" as to bank street. The term comes from the Lombards, a people who conquered Italy in the 6th century, and settled in the northern region that became known as Lombardy. The wealthy cities in this region were the birthplace of modern banking, and many of their inhabitants became notable in Middle Ages throughout Western Europe as bankers, money-lenders and pawn-brokers; London's Lombard Street (1598) originally was occupied by "Lombard" bankers Or even Lombard credit is the granting of credit to banks against pledged items, mostly in the form of securities or life insurance policies. The pledged items must be readily marketable; in particular, the securities 'eligible for collateral' which are registered on lists. Lending is via central banks. As a general rule, the Lombard rate (interest rate) is around one per cent above discount rate. In Hamburg you can find "Lombardsbrücke" having a similar mining.

[@TheOlgaSasha]

In Ukrainian it has the same meaning...)))

[@nicolocrippa8514]

Not a coincidence... Bankers and moneylanders from Lombardy during the Middle Ages were famous all over Europe.

[@bepivisintainer2975]

@@leandroulpio7473 That is proper modern banking. Lombardians stole the idea from the Genoese and Seneses then it start selling it like their own property. And even got famous for it. Pure modern banking ;-) Seriously now. Remember that the name Lombardy is not to be confused with the Italian region we know nowadays . Back in the middle ages till not long ago the term Lombardy indicated the entire Po Valley and surroundings. Genoa was considered Lombardy. Reggio Emilia official name was Reggio di Lombardia until 1860/1880., I also remember reading some poems where Genoa was called the main port of Lombardy open to the world. So, nothing to do with the Regione Lombardia we all know nowadays.

[@halilunes7007]

scoltar -> escuchar föra dei -> fuera de

[@halilunes7007]

@Tret Erter cuál acento es eso?

[@Jormone]

@Tret Erter fuori da*

[@Jormone]

@@halilunes7007 that's standard italian XD

[@halilunes7007]

@@Jormone ah grazzie

[@chavandposh]

is it inbetweeners of French and Italian?

[@pnkcnlng228]

No, it's a complete separate language from the Gallo-romance language family

[@peteferguson518]

Italian with a French twist.

[@frank_zapping]

Somiglia al bresciano/bergamasco ma non è nemmeno milanese, che lingua è?

[@pnkcnlng228]

È un dialetto del Brianzolo, almeno la prima parte

[@frank_zapping]

Som noter i pioe bei!

[@AshleyGravesreal]

I am a Lombard italian and i am actually confused cause the Lombard language is kinda dead there are cities language it is still alive low speaked.? The Lombard language is basically a family speaker whit French i see many French words the French domination Changed much of it

[@carloalbertooggioni1091]

The french domination was too short to have left sensible traces outside some loanwords, the similarities came from the fact that both are Western romance languages (consonant lenition, drop of non-accented vowels), and both evolved a palatized sound for "o" and "u".

[@krvgnluientu1353]

SALENTIN??

[@kfwfb534]

Any young Lombard natives in the comment section?

[@herr4367]

Make a video about Mongolian

[@juliusevola5013]

Please make mantuan dialect

[@ВольдемарШаломов]

Is there a language of the ancient Lombards?

[@pnkcnlng228]

No, that was a germanic language

[@pnkcnlng228]

But we are their descendents

[@unknownzzz5115]

@@pnkcnlng228 not really...

[@ВольдемарШаломов]

@@pnkcnlng228 Not a fact, their kingdom was defeated, they disappeared like the Goths, although we heard the language of the Goths.

[@MMMM-ld3dj]

Grapefruit sa disa pumpelm par grape nu ghe disem uga

[@teodor4500]

Serbian language please

[@punctro6915]

Ooo I thought Lombard language was germanic one.

[@8dj757]

tamil language please

[@basedkaiser5352]

Sounds like a mix between Catalan, Portuguese, Spanish and French.

[@big_2361]

This language needs a logo change asap

[@azathothog]

Sounds like french

[@TheRealGigachad1848]

That sample text is too sad.

[@leonardoschiavelli6478]

Italian and Catalan having a baby called Lombard, LOL

[@andrewcoates4952]

Lol basically Italian with a french accent 😂

[@loganandoreo4687]

Italian + French loanwords = Lombard :)

[@pnkcnlng228]

No, Lombard is a gallo-romance language; while italian is a dalmato-italian

[@paxomejia7542]

First!

[@zimtschnecke9284]

No,, your'e 5th.

[@mangomanlassi7779]

first

[@aramxut9495]

Eeem...hi?

[@pnkcnlng228]

?

[@tanishaayla1210]

First