Why The Nintendo 3DS And Wii U eShop Shutting Down Is A BIG Deal

[@Demeech]

This is more about Nintendo's refusal to offer legacy content/how they don't care about game preservation. It stinks the eShop is shutting down. But homebrew WILL let you play these games and emulation still is an option. I'm well aware about emulation and homebrew. But then thing is, Virtual Console games are more reliable. ESPECIALLY the Nintendo 64 games. My advice? DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! *YOU ARE A PIRATE!*

[@kevinaguilar7541]

@@M64bros but you might have been the exception. Pretty neat, nevertheless. But you won't see me giving special treatment to any company. If they do something bad, I am going to critic.

[@allstarcarsjuice2223]

I rather choose Nintendo to keep the eShops open forever.

[@KaptainKharisma]

I don't have a switch and i dont think i ever will

[@crystalbry4741]

Rip virtual console 2006 to 2023.

[@mrpiccionedivino5598]

@@M64brosif it was someone impersonating nintendo who take down gilvasunner then why the literal youtube Twitter account said it was the official nintendo who ordered them to shut it down?

[@megamix5403]

"It's getting very difficult to like Nintendo." As someone who fought tooth and nail for them during the Wii U era. This quote hit too close to home.

[@crystalbry4741]

Idk if they can survive, if they keep doing this. But tbh some Nintendo fanboys will defend Nintendo forever.

[@Demeech]

@@crystalbry4741 Twitter is the kingdom for Nintendo shills.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@Demeech oh i know i checked yesterday and man the shills just wow. At least some of the replies i saw

[@psycholuigiman]

@@crystalbry4741 Oh. Don't worry. They'll survive. Probably get worse before they get better too. They've got mass appeal and an army of naive fans who think Nintendo has their best interest in mind. All we can really do as consumers is just use our money to talk to Nintendo. Ya know, think carefully about what we buy and stuff.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@psycholuigiman I don't think I'm going to support them after the 3ds and wii u are gone. Their business practices with the switch are horrible and i can't support that.

[@Demi-Joker]

For those concerned, you will still be able to play both physical and digital games after March 2023. You will also still be able to redownload games after March 2023. The only thing that really happened is that you won't be able to purchase games and play free demos after March 2023.

[@frickiris]

Oh so we have 1 year left phew I’m still so sad about it though because the 3ds eshop was such a huge part of my childhood also animal crossing new leaf and tomodachi life are some of my favorite games of all time I bought them digitally I will cry if I lose them

[@jonathanhargraves2241]

I can't believe that they're closing off access to buying VC content 😔

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

Wait I thought the eShop permanently closes after March 2023?

[@mediocrity5693]

Ok, good. I can still play wario land.

[@kestreldesign1760]

You should still be able to play demo games you've downloaded, right? Like the pokemon demos.

[@Tricky_Nick]

As a Wii U owner, I was completely unaware of the fact that it was a commercial failure because I was so in love with all the awesome games for the system. it's sad to see that the switch is not nearly as good when it comes to game library and legacy content, yet it's selling like hot cakes.

[@scarlet7960]

It failed in sales but succeeded in everything else

[@crystalbry4741]

The wii u sounds awesome and the launch game looks cool and then everything else. That isn't on the switch unfortunately

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

Literally same here, I had *no* idea it was such a flop and failure until yearss later because of the same reasons you listed! I was so in love with the Wii U and all the games and stuff you could do with it that I just assumed everyone else was too. I thought it was a must-have console like the rest of them, and that everyone that had a 3ds (which I met a LOT of people with one back then!) had a Wii U, like how both the Wii and DS was a huge success together back then! My cousins had 3DS's but not a Wii U, and I thought they were in the minority lol- They came to my house all the time so we could play games like Smash, NintendoLand, Mario Kart, and some other games, good times... ;w; It really is sad with the Switch, it's barely half of what the Wii U and even the 3DS was! And yet it outsold the freaking Wii and I still can't believe it...

[@crystalbry4741]

@@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786 yeah me too like the switch doesn't have the best library unlike the 3ds which had a great library idk about the wii u tbh. But it's probably better and yeah the wii was great and i can't believe the switch outsold it. The switch has no themes, no eshop music, no streetpass, no swapnote or doodle, no miiverse, no virtual console games, no Nintendo charm like the previous consoles etc. Play to pay online when it was free before, retro games locked behind a membership paywall, you can't keep retro games from the online service, the expansion pack unreasonable 50 bucks a year, day one updates, unfinished games, limited time releases, joy con drift.

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

@@crystalbry4741 Agreed! I thought the Wii U library was really good, but I dunno because I didn't really go through the Wii Shop back then, all my Wii games are physical, I don't remember scrolling through the Wii library like I did with Wii U, but I digress- YEP EXACTLY! Literally everything you said, it doesn't have any of that! The Switch feels so soulless compared to its previous consoles. Couldn't agree more with all of your points, remind me again how the Switch sold so well?! And more than the Wii, at that matter?? Seriously? Is it because it's a hybrid console that can be a handheld and console? I get that it's super cool and convenient, but is it really THAT amazing?

[@anguset]

It’s really odd to me that Nintendo’s gone from one of the most consumer friendly in the console market to the least. XBox has insanely good legacy content, and PlayStation is keeping open the online store was around back in the Wii days. But here’s Nintendo with 2 tiers of poorly performing paid online and artificial scarcity.

[@dinar8749]

Companies will only act consumer friendly when it benefits them against the competition. When you have no competition, they get real arrogant and full of themselves, and they start acting like they're gods.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@dinar8749 unfortunately

[@sonicthehedge]

Companies are only consumer friendly when they are suffering in sales. It has happened with Sony and Microsoft. Sony was pretty Consumer friendly during the PS3 aka the generation they were failing against Wii and Xbox but now on the PS5 they don't even do anything to prevent scalpers or went with the paid online subcription the xbox 360 started. Microsoft was a dick during the Xbox days and even tried to forcely sell you a kinect along with the next generation of consoles just because they could. Nowadays since they are in the bottom of the consoles. They are the most consumer friendly, they provide a good service and backward compatible to their older games. Now with nintendo, they were consumer friendly on the 3DS and Wii U era because it was failing. Now that the Switch is selling. They started throwing in Paid online Subcriptions and a bunch BS just because they are on the top again. It's all cycle which is why you should never fanboy over a console.

[@anguset]

@@sonicthehedge that is probably part of it (though my point about Sony is what they’re doing now, not back in the PS3 days). I do wanna point out that Nintendo has also dealt with a leadership change, which I hear has placed a lot more of the company’s powers in the hands of shareholders. Not to deify Iwata, but I think that he had a fair bit to do with the company’s ‘personal touch’ that seems to be absent now.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@anguset true

[@richieosborn2639]

Agreed. We love Nintendo, but we should not take them for granted for much longer. We must tone down the demand and help the classics get proper treatment.

[@crystalbry4741]

Idk i think Nintendo is just too big now to care about the fans like during the will u. They couldn't do stuff like the expansion pack, NSO service because if they did they would've lost money and they didn't have much money during the will u because it was their lowest selling console next to the virtual boy.

[@theshadowartgamer8291]

Same here if that happens I'm going to my Nintendo 64.Since that's where I started playing first.And Nintendo switch to me it's not a best console do to internet not being free.Why cause will Wii u had free internet also did ps3.I don't like new features on consoles.Yea it's safer but to pricey.

[@1mrcow143]

@@crystalbry4741 even during the Wii when they were doing well they were still consumer friendly. Just started with the switch

[@crystalbry4741]

@@1mrcow143 i know. Nintendo was more consumer friendly back then but now nope.

[@1mrcow143]

@@crystalbry4741 also Iwata’s passing is an explanation not an excuse. Just wanted to put that out there

[@stoopidmansidiot]

sony threatened to shut down the PS3 and PSVITA stores, but backed down after fans protested knowing nintendo, I don't think that they'll do the same thing

[@dinar8749]

Because a lot of nintendo fans aren't online using social media, they're "casuals" who only play the games, and probably not that many games either.

[@hitkid2456]

If only it would.

[@heartwolfphantom9366]

They're NSO expansion pass had a lot of black lash for the price being $50 and the N64 games not working right, yet they don't give enough craps to fix it or lower the price to be more reasonable. So yeah they're not going to keep the Wii U and 3DS eshops alive regardless of the amounts of people protesting over this. It does quite suck indeed.

[@EllaEllaAudios]

This is exactly why I'm inherently against DLC as a concept. Take a game like Fire Emblem Fates, Revelation is entirely unaccessible from that point on. Even if you do shell out $200+ for the collectors edition with Revelation on the cartridge, it's still fuck you because Heirs of Fate was truly download only. That's an entire side story you just aren't able to play after 2023

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

And if the eShop close down next year, some games are recommended to update if you're going to play them because some of them have bugs that make it impossible to progress through these games.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@ElectroBlastLuigi they're still keeping software updates after the store closes. That was confirmed thankfully

[@scarlet7960]

🏴‍☠️

[@goldmemberpb]

The pricing for that special edition is disgusting. Thankfully, you can emulate that special edition but they expect people to pay for those now that the eshop is closing.

[@scarlet7960]

@@goldmemberpb emulation here to save the day again

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

I saw this coming someday since more and more people are using their Switches these days. I remember how sad I was when the Nintendo Wi-Fi connection shut down for the DS and Wii then some years later both DSi and Wii shops closed down and it's bad enough that I wasn't allowed to get any decent games from there. As someone that missed out on most of the 3DS and Wii U era, this is very heartbreaking to see. Watch within another 2 or 3 years Nintendo shuts down internet connectivity for the 3DS and Wii U.

[@Demeech]

The main issue is there's no alternative to play these games. The DSi Shop shut down, but it wasn't a big deal since all the games were on the 3DS eShop.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@Demeech true it saddens me tbh.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@Demeech unfortunately because of Nintendo's dumb decisions dsiware games are going to be lost soon sadness.

[@luigigreen_]

You can play online on Wii

[@theunpopularcuber9554]

Thankfully the homebrew community is already working on fan servers in case that happens.

[@BoliLelly]

This shows why physical media is essential along with emulation and custom firmware.

[@Demeech]

Agreed

[@hassansyed4135]

I much like to prefer buying physical copies of wii/GameCube games than digitally, but they can be expensive so I can resort to emulation.

[@caracalfloppa4997]

With massive day one patches, even physical media isn't foolproof. The digital games of today will be lost to history, while old consoles and their games stand strong. Modern hardware with modern instruction sets is also much more volatile, and will degrade with time and use much more quickly than older hardware.

[@scarlet7960]

@@hassansyed4135 exactly!!! Nintendo really needs to sell physical versions of there old games. I'm sorry but emulation, even if it's legal, isn't as exciting as a real, physical version.

[@dinar8749]

Not physical media because that just breaks overtime. Emulation and piracy are the REAL preservation options for media in general!

[@al_x2138]

For me, it's just sad that so many retro and novelty games are just going to be lost to time

[@dinar8749]

Nah piracy and emulation are a thing. And don't believe anyone trying to tell you otherwise that piracy doesn't win everytime.

[@cosmicsvids]

@@dinar8749 Its not like you can stop piracy is works like a virus it keeps spreading shut down one site and 3 more pop up. There will always be people who don't care about what nintendo will do to them that will run rom sites. This has been proven by the amount of rom sites that have been shut down and that new ones will pop up to this day.

[@LOLMGS]

@@cosmicsvids just sad that you can't play some version of games. And of languages because I can't find a rom with my language on it. Like there is a Physikal copy somewhere in this world, but no one just oploads that.

[@cosmicsvids]

They aren't lost to time but pretty much they are illegal to play unless you can buy a physicals copy of it. Imagine it being illegal to relive your childhood just because your old stuff got lose.

[@danr8267]

Na there's Google drives full of every single 3ds,Wii,wiiu,etc roms that Nintendo won't ever be able to touch. Plus people have it all stored on physical storage.

[@ade1174]

Loved the Wario Land 4 footage during the discussion of the Wii U's Virtual Console. Such a good game.

[@M3rtyville]

Emu-lation isn't even illegal. The 3D-All Stars Mario game is running on that "illegal" thing Nintendo is against. They just don't want people to play them on hardware they don't support. I get that the data itself is illegal that you "illegally" play if its not a copy of your own software, but otherwise there is no reason I can't use Dolphin and play a backup copy of the Super Mario Galaxy file I bought from Nintendo. The entire VC is running on "illegal thingy" and we pay for it. What bothers me honestly that we won't be able to play online for free anymore. And now I have to decide if I want to let the chance slip of getting Mario Advance 4 with the eReader levels on Wii U or not. Mario 3 is my favorite Mario game, but I never played the remake with additional levels. And Nintendo likely will never do stuff like this ever again with their currently greedy mindset. Imagine experiencing Pokemon Emerald with all the locked content and catch Mew and do the cool Deoxys Puzzle. Nintendo hasn't released the Generation 3 Pokemon games on VC and since it doesn't exist, we likely won't get it. At least not with the additional content.

[@hellacia8151]

For online play, you can play a few games online for free with switch lan play. This list expands with a modded switch.

[@crystalbry4741]

I don't understand Nintendo hate for emulation. When they use emulation themselves for retro games kinda hypocritical.

[@kingofcrap4414]

@@crystalbry4741 Nintendo hates the idea of people playing their old games without money flowing into their pockets. In Nintendo's ideal world, only they would have access to emulation and they would force everyone to pay for it.

[@arturoehr]

@@crystalbry4741 because they don’t get a cut if you download an iso and play on dolphin.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@kingofcrap4414 unfortunately. Now that i think about it virtual console has you pay as well but it works there as one you can keep the game you purchased and play offline and two it doesn't have a bad online service basically holding your games hostage if you don't constantly pay a fee for playing.

[@SirLightsOut99]

You know, for a company that gets so up in arms when people pirate their old games, they really do seem to enjoy going out of their way to encourage people to do it. I'm sorry, but piracy is 100% okay when you're given no other way to buy a game. Especially if an original copy is so expensive, cuz even if you can get your hands on one it's not like the company is making any money from it.

[@LOLMGS]

They don't get like a shit from there games they don't produce

[@seapuffanimations1713]

There’s a pattern here. Nintendo knows that the fans loved a lot of their older games so they had virtual console. But you see, Nintendo has been getting worse and worse as a company. They remake or move their older games and make you pay even more for it. I know inflation and stuff but it’s overpriced. I bet that after the e-shops close, they’re going to take all of the games and put them on a Deluxe expansion pass for $80 a year for an individual membership. Why can’t they just be nice to the fans? Be fair for once.

[@crystalbry4741]

It'll unfortunately never happen again. Since iwata died Nintendo is caring less about their retro games because iwata was a game developer, business man and most importantly a gamer and understood how people felt about games in general and also understood that retro games were important to people whether it was new people playing retro games for the first time or older players wanting to play the games they grew up with again. But Now Nintendo doesn't have that anymore and is more scummy than ever.

[@LOLMGS]

@@jaxsterminator8634 man stfu and open you goddamn eyes. The Switch is NOT the best era. Take other consoles as an example. They may be good, but had at some point a donwfall. No era is perfect. And that should ve a lesson to evryone.

[@Drelm_0]

Ever since Doug Bowser Nintendo has been falling down hill

[@Drelm_0]

@@jaxsterminator8634 I think you have Asperger's

[@Drelm_0]

@@jaxsterminator8634 You don't have to lie you know I support you :)

[@crying2theocean203]

People defending Nintendo at any cost need to remember two things 1. Nintendo isn’t some small team of people, they’re a billion dollar company 2. They’re a billion dollar company because people buy their games, all that needs to happen is people not buying their products and they’ll go bankrupt, as the people that keep Nintendo going, we deserve to have good products to spend our hard earned money on, so we are allowed to and should critique them when they do bad/confusing things.

[@cosmicsvids]

To be honest though there are way more people who only care about new games then care about old games. No one really makes updated guides for old games. I was playing an old game and most of the guides for it were made in the 2000s and recorded on potatoe camera's. And despite people made fan servers for the game its hard to find players to play it with.

[@crying2theocean203]

@@cosmicsvids I do personally, my Wii U is still my main console and I play retro games on it all the time, Super Mario World, the original Sonic games, Animal Crossing Wild World, old games are just as fun as new games and they deserve respect from the people who made them.

[@LOLMGS]

@@jaxsterminator8634 This is why I hate Updates. And DLCs are no good. Sure if you buy one very early on. You have it for ever, as long as you don't delete this. But I rather go and pirate that unaopported DLC then just seeing other ppl enjoing it.

[@vanderquakSP]

@@jaxsterminator8634 You’re slightly wrong. Here’s a few bad things that they did: -They shut down a Smash Bros. Melee tournament because it was going to be played on an emulator -They shut down a Splatoon tournament because players named their characters #freemellee -They shut down a charity that gave out custom Joy-cons -They charge $60 for ports of older games(the games are good, but they shouldn’t be worth $60) -They shut down any fan-made games -They shut down a bunch of ROM sites And those don’t even begin to scratch the surface of the terrible business decisions that Nintendo made. Nintendo does make amazing games, but when it comes to the company itself, it’s not so great.

[@GlitchanBlack]

@@jaxsterminator8634 Yes, but HOW they did those things was bad.

[@walkerpierce5446]

The 3ds hasn't even been discontinued for 2 years yet. Which makes it even stranger to me.

[@davinchristino]

Remember how the Wii eshop was closed only in 2019

[@LOLMGS]

@@davinchristino yea

[@JazzTheLass]

Me: *emulates a game that i can't get elsewhere for a reasonable price* Nintendo: Emulation is piracy! Me: Then why don't you provide a way for me to play that game without emulating it? Nintendo: 😐 😠

[@crystalbry4741]

Then rip the rom sites and emulator...(rest in peace - rip) in case it's not clear for others and most likely the algorithm lol.

[@peanutfish94]

Exactly why I can't stand Nintendo. They prattle on about piracy is bad but do nothing to help stop people from emulating old games. And even if they do, you're not even guaranteed it'll run like it's supposed to (i.e. the new Paper Mario crash on their service). It's just annoying and makes your customers not want to support you long term.

[@cosmicsvids]

@@crystalbry4741 lol love roms has been copy and pasted and rebranded into other roms sites Nintendo can't do shit it's like a hydra is heads just grow back. When people can just download and clone the whole website you know Nintendo is wasting time and legal fees. If Nintendo wants to shut down ROM sites then make a shit ton of ROM sites and make them relaise they are wasting time. Same thing happened with the pirate bay people just downloaded the entire site and made a bunch of clones of it. Basically made it impossible to take down permanently

[@crystalbry4741]

@@cosmicsvids but then what about the rom sites that they took down?

[@crystalbry4741]

@@peanutfish94 true

[@appleando752]

After the Wii Shop Channel shut down, 2 items are still up for download, the Wii U Transfer Service and the patch to fix Skyward Sword's game breaking glitch. Pokemon X and Y also have a save corrupting glitch, so when the the 3DS eShop closes, I expect that to stay to... My question, is if the update data for every game will stay, or if it's just the game breaking patch fixes.

[@NPRoyalty]

Definitely going to invest in buying the 3DS and a replacement Wii U in the near future, they're GREAT consoles and even when discontinued, they can do alot when hacked!

[@NickMario1]

I totally agree with you demeech, like I wish Nintendo would put the virtual console on the switch and I wish they would stop drip feeding us content as “free updates” it’s really getting annoying at this point, I feel like ever since 2020 Nintendo just been going on a downward spiral and it only keeps getting worse. I still like Nintendo and I want them to do better but it’s just kinda hard at this point, I miss the old Nintendo in my opinion.

[@Demeech]

It's been since 2018. Nintendo's habit of releasing unfinished games needs to be more well known.

[@crystalbry4741]

It's hard for me to like Nintendo because of the things you mentioned. I don't think we'll get the old Nintendo back considering that they're making so much money off the fans and some fanboys defend them today. If people keep defending Nintendo's bad decisions then they probably won't last or become like EA and survive but have very bad practices and scummy business decisions that everyone hates but the company doesn't listen or care about the fans.

[@Monkeydbj2]

@@crystalbry4741 Holy shit you're deluisional, Things weren't much better in the older era also, They've been doing this since the fucking 80s through late 2000's, Nintendo has always been like this, read their history with Yamuachi under his leadership with the comapany for example.

[@kingofcrap4414]

@@Monkeydbj2 Pro Tip: If you want someone to listen to you, then don't start with "Holy shit, you're delusional."

[@crystalbry4741]

@@Monkeydbj2 yes they did some horrible things in the past. Don't get me wrong but it's getting worse than before and i believe old Nintendo means when iwata was in charge not yamuachi. What I'm trying to say is this is the worst I've seen them in years.

[@andrejfjalves]

As a boomer gamer, it sucks to see this happen. It sucked with the Wii, it sucked with the PSP, it sucked with the OG Xbox, it will suck with the PS3 and Vita (yes, it will happen, they just delayed their decision), it will suck with the Xbox 360 whenever it happens. I just hope consumers realize that when they buy digital games (as I do sometimes) you DON'T OWN anything. They're rentals, pure and simple. And by continuing to do so, you're giving "permission" to these companies to take these away from you when they so desire or, in this particular case, when they see it's not profitable enough anymore, like maintaining digital shops open for commercially dead consoles. Consumers have to realize that they're dealing with corporations, and the goal of a corporation is to generate profit, period. So the only way we can make them reverse decisions like this is voting with our wallets, cuz that's the only "language" they care about. The launch of the Xbox One should serve as an example to all of us: consumers didn't like what they were offering, therefore, they didn't pre-order the consoles. Microsoft didn't see its bank account grow, guess what, they made important changes to accomodate to consumer's demands. Nintendo feels they don't need to change their MO because consumers keep "rewarding" them with money. Neither Nintendo, nor Sony, nor Microsoft are our friends, they're corporations and as such their first priority will always be generating profit, so their decisions will always be made with that in mind first and the "morals" and "ethics" always will come second. The way to fight this would be to support physical content when you can, but, quite frankly, it might be too late for that, since the digital era is upon us because most consumers prefer to buy digital all the time just because they're too lazy to get their butts off the couch or off the chair and change a disc or a cartridge. All I have to say about this is "you reap what you sow". Support physical media when you can, support your local shops. That's how video games are preserved. Regarding piracy, my point of view is a fairly simple one: these games that are disappearing from the shops (I mean the digitally exclusive ones), go ahead and pirate them, I would do the same. Sorry for the long rant.

[@crystalbry4741]

I loved both physical and digital games and at least with the wii u and 3ds. You can buy those games and keep them forever on an sd card. Unfortunately some games that have physical releases don't sell much copies like yo kai watch 3 it's overpriced on online stores like Amazon and the only way to get it cheap is on the eshop unfortunately. Some physical media is unfortunately overpriced and people will have to go digital to get them. Which sucks but like I said at least you can back up digital games on sd card or hard drive, computer etc. Idk if the switch lets you back up to sd card, hard drive. Btw most games that i have are physical copies and some digital. Basically most of my library is physical. Hopefully i made sense...

[@catholiccontriversy]

"Digital is the future, it's so much more convenient than physical," oh look, now the only way to get that digital game is to mod your console being careful not to brick it and download a cracked copy from a shady website, ain't digital great?

[@legocreator768]

modding the 3DS and Wii U is so easy now the chances of bricking are extremely near zero, probably even zero. There are a bunch of safeguards in place so the only way to brick is if you aren't following the guide and start messing with the SysNAND Drive in GM9 or something and delete a file which you aren't supposed to. To be able to do that you'd need to unlock the permissions with a key combo and even confirm before deletion. Internet Archive has CIAs of 3DS games and probably Wii U games as well as digital only and VC titles.

[@catholiccontriversy]

@@legocreator768 it's still a process and hurdle that didn't exist in the 6th generation and before (save the satellaview), and doesn't exist with modern physical if you're ok with playing a buggy game.

[@lunamaster123]

You say that like you can just go to the store and buy a physical game 10 years after its release. No, you have to do online and pay _more_ than what the game originally costs if you want to buy that same game physically vs just modding it. Modding trumps physical by a long shot.

[@catholiccontriversy]

@@lunamaster123 1. I have a used game store by me that covers everything from Atari to now, and except for the high demand games they're all under original price (I highly doubt pitfall on genesis was $5 back in the day). 2. This wasn't about how bad modding is, but how bad digital distribution is.

[@LuprinaWolf]

I think the shutdown is coming way too early. I mean, I knew it was coming eventually, but I expected at least another year or two before they would announce something like this. I still like to use my 3ds, and even my wii u on occasion. I wouldn't have much of a problem with the shutdown, if they offered some sort of alternative. After the shutdown, there won't be any legal way to buy wii, wii u, ds, and gameboy games aside from going to a retro store. And there's been no support for the GameCube from Nintendo for over 10 years now, aside from them porting sunshine to the switch for half a year. If Nintendo cares so much about people emulating games, then they should provide a legal way to play all of those games they have in their library. There isn't any other option to play these, other than paying a fortune for some games, with Nintendo not seeing a profit from the sales. It's just too frustrating

[@ThatGuyLegend]

I don't think it's too early, the wii shop channel was ran for 13 years, the 3ds has had 12 years and wii u 11 years

[@realthemariogamer]

@@ThatGuyLegend ya but for some reason it still feels like it's a little early lol, it was just so surprising to me, i expected it to shut down by the end of 2024 maybe. but seeing it this early was kinda crazy too me lol.

[@hitkid2456]

@Mr l3g3nd Exactly, in all those cases, barely a decade. Meanwhile their competitors have long outstripped that.

[@davinchristino]

We could hope for 3ds game emulation on switch, but uh... seeing the current state of nso where you can only emulate nes, snes, n64 and genesis, it's not going to happen probably ever. Even the Wii eshop had a much wider selection.

[@realthemariogamer]

@@davinchristino you could just emulate 3ds and wii u pretty smoothly as long as you have a mid range pc. it's probably not ideal for some people but it seems that's the only way to play digital only games after the eshop closes, people will preserve these games through game roms.

[@Ron-nr8lw]

It’s a discontinued system sadly, this is normal to terminate all online services on a discontinued console a few years after release though I wish there were easier ways to properly get old titles since the 3DS e shop had some great titles

[@crystalbry4741]

Unfortunately but the problem is unlike the 3ds and wii u. Nintendo isn't putting the games on the switch eshop which sucks.

[@LOLMGS]

@@crystalbry4741 well they have become greedy over time. Makes sense that they want to charge in like 5 years the games for 60 bucks or 50 someday

[@crystalbry4741]

@@LOLMGS unfortunately you can't even get a master key without paying them. It used to be free but now it's paid as well as everything else sadly.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@LOLMGS But also the problem is that NSO service doesn't allow you to own retro games and once Nintendo kills off the servers it's gone. All a person's hard work deleted forever which is horrible.

[@LOLMGS]

@@crystalbry4741 well that is shit

[@rokmare]

Another problem is that physical copies of virtual console games will skyrocket just like it did when Sony announced they were closing ps3 psn and the Impact it had on ps1 and ps2 classic prices.

[@NintendoTV64]

Honestly, between the faulty Joy-Cons, their irrational hatred/indifference towards legacy content, their pathetic online service for the Switch, and completely shutting down the Wii U and 3DS eShops, it's a miracle Nintendo hasn't gone bankrupt.

[@yarc9]

Nintendo isn't the only one who have faulty controllers look at sony and Microsoft you got joycon drift and dualsense drift nintendo have the faulty controller problem before the switch even came out look at 3ds circle pad it broken

[@JazzTheLass]

honestly its only their games that are keeping them going at this point

[@andresreynoso7254]

It’s simple: even if Nintendo selled Mario/Zelda/Pokémon poop, people would still buy it no matter if it’s good or bad

[@yarc9]

@@andresreynoso7254 either buy it or dont make your own decision if your jealous a video game franchise you don't like it successful

[@andresreynoso7254]

@@yarc9 THEY ARE ALL SUCCESFUL. I’m happy something that Metroid finally got the popularity it deserved, but for Mario (basically the first franchise I have played) we get crappy mobile microtransactions games, unfinished games that get finished via updates (Mario golf switch cof cof), a collection of emulators (fakely labeled as limited making an anticonsumer crap), and people just buy it because it has Mario on the box. I want quality for Mario and that’s what I’m hoping for Mario Strikers Switch

[@saraschmidt5612]

Nintendo: * Gets angry at ROM sites and emulators for letting people play their games for free * Also Nintendo: * Doesn't even rerelease their games, so they can't be played or purchased legitimately *

[@dinar8749]

Too bad for big businesses and big governments, piracy is just too powerful for their BS and keeps dominating them to this day :)

[@Julx_Nector8192]

Emulation is going to skyrocket when the e shop store closes

[@andresreynoso7254]

And homebrew as well

[@vanderquakSP]

And eventually, so will the inflation on 3DS and WiiU games(unfortunately).

[@GlitchanBlack]

@@jaxsterminator8634 It isn't when you're emulating games from systems that aren't getting support anymore.

[@Skappyio1]

Imagine if they started ''remastering'' NES games with no new content and made them $60? As sad as it sounds, there will still be people defending them for it

[@PortableFrog]

You know, it's kind of sad that I can see this unfourtanetly happening.

[@LOLMGS]

@@jaxsterminator8634 We are not poor. We are spending money on better tjings then on the 20th cope of super mario, like I'm tired of this anyway. Would you rather spend money on a Laptop for gaming reaching the best framrate. Or better a Steamdeck. Emolating the major console generation with eas. And only at an affordeble price of 400 dollars

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

Between the Nintendo Switch Online service and Virtual Console lineup, I REALLY preferred Virtual Console, due to how the games were cheaper and easier to get. Plus I don't need to pay for them every month. I guess I should buy everything on my wishlist while I still can.

[@ctclb2723]

Yessir we still got one year to get this done

[@Villain_Killin_Dylan]

Wii U did not get Gamecube games because of the binding box issue which was left out if the hardware

[@SuperMario2401]

I totally agree man and respect for speaking up against Nintendo's anti-consumer policies

[@cosmicsvids]

What's worse is there are laws passing in country s like japan that allow you to get arrested for hacking stuff in your own game you bought and paid for this needs to be hated on to hell or else the rest of the world will become like china. Yeah people act like following all laws is the right thing to do but once they start doing shit like this I'd rather just break those dumb laws and say fuck you back as everyone else should. If enough people do that they will be forced to change but as they can't just arrest everyone.

[@JaceAVinson]

I’m glad I managed to get a 3DS and 3 Virtual Console games for it. I have Sonic the Hedgehog (The Game Gear version not the Genesis version), Super Mario Land, and Super Mario Bros. Deluxe.

[@ranpan6082]

An alternative would be for Nintendo to bring the Virtual Console to Switch and allow people to purchase their legacy content instead of using their garage online service to have access to a drip feed of their games. Also, so much history is going to be lost and some of Nintendo's own games on the Wii U and 3DS will be gimped in some capacity when it'll be no longer possible to download the updates and DLC.

[@crystalbry4741]

Unfortunately

[@Demeech]

Nintendo is despicable now.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@Demeech yep it's sad really i remember loving the wii, ds and 3ds(don't have wii u sadly) finished games, virtual console games and personality in their commercials, directs and consoles, games etc. Cool applications like flipnote studio, miiverse, swapnote. I forgot the other ones

[@kevmk8997]

@@crystalbry4741 can't forget Streetpass Mii Plaza haha!

[@crystalbry4741]

@@kevmk8997 oh lol i can't believe i forgot that

[@illusiongalaxy5112]

One of my favourite games is kid icarus uprising which I used to play on with an emulator on my pc, but since it started glitcing and lagging very badly I decided to buy a copy for my 3ds. There are no physical copies I can find where I live and so buying from the e-shop is my only option. I wanted to wait a bit and save up more money before spending it but the e-shop closing basically forces me to buy the game right now. I hate the closing of the e-shop so much

[@OnlyMichaelSparrow]

They should add virtual console to switch online service. That could make it so much more appealing and maybe add new games to it and some switch game could have a price cut even money(different games every month)

[@-Chrome-]

Ah, piracy, you can't stop me Nintendo.

[@houseface3524]

Nintendo needs to keep the Wii U & 3DS eShops alive or offer virtual console.

[@therandommariofan]

this is why the Physical 3ds and wii u game prices goes shocking up, very badly due to the 3ds and wii u eshop shutdown, which it kinda sucks

[@joaboveaverage]

Nintendo probably won’t do this but I hope virtual console comes back on the switch

[@julianx2rl]

Across our Nintendo Switch Online membership plans, over 130 classic games are currently available in growing libraries for various legacy systems. The games are often enhanced with new features such as online play. We think this is an effective way to make classic content easily available to a broad range of players. Within these libraries, new and longtime players can not only find games they remember or have heard about, but other fun games they might not have thought to seek out otherwise. *We currently have no plans to offer classic content in other ways.*

[@dinar8749]

@@julianx2rl ARRRRGHHH 🏴‍☠🏴‍☠🏴‍☠

[@julianx2rl]

@@dinar8749 - Argh indeed my friend!

[@LOLMGS]

@@julianx2rl let's go pirate some 3DS and WiiU games

[@half-dusted]

for people not sure what to do: if there are any games you want 1. Buy it before march 2023 on the eshop (you can no longer use credit/debit cards to directly purchase games, you must use a redeem code or gift card.) 2. Check if there is a physical copy of the game you can buy used online do step one if it's digital only or dsiware

[@half-dusted]

@Olivia 757 I'm not really sure what they are but alot of games will be gone forever now

[@ade1174]

I'll miss Virtual Console a lot. I prefer one and done purchases to rentals via subscription on NSO.

[@usingtiltcontrols3695]

Yeah, but Nintendo makes more money with subscriptions so….. It sucks, I wish the VC would come back, but it’s not unless NSO flops

[@Eli3278]

by closing the eshop nintendo is losing business because the 3ds eshop rakes in thousands of dollars a year and the servers causing the eshop to run only costs about $730 a year

[@papaG6423]

While I'm no stranger to emulation, I really enjoy playing games on official hardware, so having the option buy them for cheap on the VC is awesome. It really sucks to know that I don't have much more time to buy these games. I understand Nintendo closing the eshops for Wii U and 3DS, but they really need to make the VC available on Switch to soften the blow of this decision. If Nintendo doesn't want us to pirate their retro games, then they should make them permanently available on Switch and their future systems, not just temporarily tied to an online service that will eventually die as well.

[@crystalbry4741]

You know Nintendo hates emulation and piracy. But they don't give us access to virtual console games on the switch and force you to pay if you want them and with NSO you don't own those games like the wii u/3ds. On switch you rent them until the switch server's are gone unfortunately. This decision is going to sadly increase piracy.

[@scarlet7960]

You can play emulated games on a 3ds (official hardware) by hacking it.

[@papaG6423]

@@crystalbry4741 exactly. That's why I've always believed that VC > NSO

[@papaG6423]

@@scarlet7960 true, but I prefer to buy my games if possible. If there is a game I want that is extremely expensive or on a console I don't have, then I'll emulate. Also, I'm not really comfortable tampering with my systems. I don't want to brick them on accident lol

[@crystalbry4741]

@@scarlet7960 I'd rather not do that because i don't wanna mess up and break it.

[@yimiek]

Good Evening, Demeech. I kept seeing your community posts in my recommended and tonight, I finally decided to take a look at your channel and I’m hooked. You’re a great content creator and I can’t wait to watch more of your vids. 🤩🤩

[@grapeluver5]

Many people here are disappointed about the virtual console being shut down and I am too, but having only purchased a 3ds a year ago I'm sad that many games I want to play from the 3ds generation will be unavailable to me because of either digital only games and/or ludicrously expensive physical copies.

[@SegaMario]

I'm one of the few who are glad to see you ranting. Because it's all so painfully true. Nintendo is pulling scummy move after scummy move, it's bloody disgusting. I've avoided Nintendo for the past couple of years as a result. It makes me sick. People give EA and Activision flack, but the amount of hate Nintendo is getting is *CHILD'S PLAY* in comparison. They *NEED* more awareness of how unhappy we are. Some are probably aware but don't care because everyone else who isn't paying the scummy decisions any mind and continuing to buy into them are *OVERWHELMINGLY* humongous compared to us angry fans. Microsoft has been pulling positive move after positive move and I deeply respect them for that. I've been with them for many years and since Phil Spencer took over, the Xbox brand has been getting better and better. Nintendo refuses to take notes because they know they're still making mad *BANK* from the millions buying their stuff every minute of the day. They can't learn if their profits continue to skyrocket.

[@realthemariogamer]

this is one of the reasons being too successful can hurt a company if there not responsible lol.

[@realthemariogamer]

@@jaxsterminator8634 you think paying 50$ for n64 games with crap emulation and not making a bundled-in accessory work at launch for switch sports is ok?

[@АлександрТерехов-ж3й]

@@jaxsterminator8634 Troll

[@LOLMGS]

@@maplemiles3381 says the one that has maby just experinces one console playing it the first time. And then never again. Because you maby care only about the new games because there new. Like I don't care about nintendo at this point. You can't change my mind anymore. If I see my favorite game there. Then I better wait and see what evryone thinks about it. And when I buy it, then I may be dissapointed or have the best tine there.

[@vanderquakSP]

@@jaxsterminator8634 I see no problem with the emulation or the price for the NSO Expansion Pack. I just don’t like the weird button mapping that can apparently only be solved by buying a wireless Nintendo 64 controller. And I do want to buy one of those controllers, but there’s just one small problem: THE CONTROLLERS ARE SOLD OUT!

[@carlrygwelski586]

My 3DS Virtual Console Library is almost more valuable to me than my actual NES collection. Having the 10 gba games from the ambassador program puts me at over 50 classic titles on my system. I have a backup 3DS XL just for when mine ever has problems

[@Mewtwo557]

In all honesty, I'm in full kudos with you on this. I've stopped supporting the shady practices of Nintendo ever since that expansion pack came out and I've seen little to no reason to defend them. And even before that, their downward spiral has just been so obvious despite their growing sales. When I heard the eshop news, I was livid. I wish we as a community had more power in these situations, but unfortunately some people just can't see through the shady practices. As my dad once put it, "Nintendo just seems to not care about their IP's anymore."

[@dinar8749]

Don't worry, if they keep up the BS they'll have another wii u on their hands!

[@crystalbry4741]

@@dinar8749 I hope so

[@crystalbry4741]

At this point once the wii u and 3ds are gone. I'm done with Nintendo I'll never buy their switch games again because they'll kill the switch in a few years like the wii u and 3ds anyway. I mean i would suggest boycott Nintendo but i know that'll never happen or work because people will keep buying switch's and switch games until the switch is gone and this happens all over again. But worse because the switch doesn't have virtual console games and they force you to pay for online and expansion pack, NSO etc. Like once the switch is gone you can't play retro games like the wii u and 3ds were you can keep the games forever. It's just unbelievable to me.

[@genericperson360]

@@jaxsterminator8634 care to elaborate

[@genericperson360]

@@jaxsterminator8634 ok I don’t see your point then lol

[@haruokumura4271]

Didn't Sony try to pull this with the PS3 PSN store a few years ago and realize it was stupid?

[@WilliApple]

I think the best alternative is to add 3ds and WiiU Games to Switch Online natively. I could personally see Nintendo do this, but probably for the Expansion Pass.

[@crystalbry4741]

Probably or it'll be like the wii shop and never come to the switch which is unfortunately most likely they don't care about their legacy content like they used to because they think that the trash switch online service is enough. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqHYeGeBo7Npq6s

[@chelno5880]

@@crystalbry4741 thats why people pirate Nintendo so much while Nintendo have really good sales at the moment there reputation aren't good

[@crystalbry4741]

@@chelno5880 yep it's sad that people have to pirate because Nintendo doesn't preserve their games.

[@fluteaboo]

We'd need 2 screens.

[@WilliApple]

@@fluteaboo Or side by side.

[@dionysus_1204]

honestly virtual console will be bad to get rid of since i wanted to play games like mario party ds or mario kart ds and i will never get the chance ever again

[@Demeech]

Why play Mario Kart DS when you have KABLOOEY

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

You've never played those 2 games?? Dude, what are you waiting for?! Those 2 games were literally my childhood I can't imagine it without MKDS and MPDS, my favorite Mario Kart and Mario Party in the series, respectively of course! I somehow still have the MKDS cartridge from my childhood and it miraculously still works perfectly! I can't say the same for MPDS (I'm pretty sure I played it on those R3 cards with a bunch of games) but I got it back a few years back and play it on my 3ds! (Along with MKDS and other DS games from childhood lol) Sorry for rambling so much, point is, get those games!!

[@colburnrescores6654]

Well for those two specific games, they’re very cheap to get assuming you have a DS

[@JoseRivera-ym3wj]

Now I have to get the Virtual Console games for both the Wii U and 3DS that I mean to purchase. And the DLC for them. It sucks that many DLC will be lost. Now I want to get the 3DS Fire Emblem games in physical to get whatever DLC they have. Why wasn't the Virtual Console was carried completely from Wii to Wii U is baffling. When it shot down, many games were lost in the process, and didn't appear on the Wii U Virtual Console. It was a feature that was amazing, but it was butchered on Wii U and it's nonexistent on Switch because NSO. You need to pay for access to those games, because you don't even get the license for the copy. The game is on the cloud.

[@phorchybug3286]

I feel more bummed out about the WiiU shop closing down... Had like the most insane virtual console out of the bunch. The fact you could play friggin: Game Boy Advance Dual Screen Wii It's like one of those weird luxorious dreams come true♥️

[@AwesomeBrock]

I always forget that the Wii U had many games from almost every Nintendo console and handheld. I now want one! :(

[@RetroGuy11]

It actually is Kind Of Sad 😞 how they’re closing down the 3DS and Wii U eShop. Nintendo should’ve changed their minds. Who else felt the same when the DSi And Wii Shops closed down?

[@SMZProductions]

That thumbnail got me lol 😂

[@noireisbest6786]

Well, it just means I'll emulate retro games even more now. Steam now has RetroArch and with Steam Link you can make your oversized smartphone or tablet into a Switch plus all the awesome indies that Nintendo and Valve get. Then maybe, I can finally get a Switch to finish the Bayonetta series.

[@diabetic_boy2937]

One thing I haven't seen people talk about is if the 3ds store how are u suppose to transfer Pokemon from sun,moon etc if you can't renew your supscriton to Pokemon home or whatever it is on 3ds

[@FoxkinProductions]

If there's one thing that is also going to make people furious it's the fact that because Nintendo is shutting down these two services that also means Pokemon bank and Pokemon whatever the app is to transfer from virtual console games will no longer be accessible meaning that you won't be able to transfer Pokemon from 3DS games to the switch unless you have the app on your 3DS of course they did say that Pokemon bank will now be free once the change happens but still you can no longer download it

[@sunaookami_shiwako]

I'm really sad about this since I nearly have all of the Legend of Dark Witch games on my 3DS, The only one I'm probably gonna miss is TLoDW 3... :(

[@kenanbroersma709]

If- no when the 3ds (I don't own a Wii U) internet servers shut down I'm gonna cry a lot due to the insane amount of time i spent playing Monster Hunter, Animal Crossing, Iron Fall and more with other fellow gamers.

[@Tepig-ge7sl]

I’m going to miss the Wii U Virtual Console, I’ve downloaded so many virtual console games.

[@ivanmunoz9055]

I can get that by design the joycons will drift and I accept it, its a sacrifice necessary for them to be the way they are. I also don't dislike the online that much. But I really hate that they don't have another way to play retro games, the subscription idea is fine, but they should also let people buy the games separately. This time they messed it up real big.

[@Demeech]

That is NOT a design choice. I will make a video proving that the OLED Joy-Cons are the same.

[@JerryHunt92]

What was the name of that Wario game? I use to play it on the GBA

[@aarons-animated-avenue]

Its wario land 4.

[@JerryHunt92]

@@aarons-animated-avenue thanks dude, hopefully we’ll see a NSO drop

[@aarons-animated-avenue]

@@JerryHunt92 yeah, hopefully. It doesn't hold a candle to the virtual console, but it's still be better than it being just gone forever with no other way to buy it for a reasonable price without going on ebay or emulating it.

[@joelkearsley3137]

Personally I am not allowed to have a switch (parents think it will increase my screen time, even though it would just make the current amount more varied) but I have a 3ds and Wii u. I don't really get that much pocket money and have a large wishlist on both consoles, so getting all the old games I want to experience is going to be really tricky. I am so mad at Nintendo for this. I know my friends with switches don't mind the decisions made on switch sports or mario kart 8 DLC, but they are really mad about this one (mostly on my behalf) and they don't even have either consoles

[@Demeech]

Much respect to your parents. 3DS and Wii U are better anyway.

[@fluteaboo]

You aren't missing much.

[@Starlight_235]

something no one talks about is how will i be able to redownload my 3ds games if i uninstal them???

[@Pandacalifornia]

Why would you uninstall them?

[@Starlight_235]

@@Pandacalifornia i have no more space for games that worth 10 000 blocks (or whatever theyre called in english)

[@Pandacalifornia]

@@Starlight_235 Okay well, they haven’t announced the date for redownloads shutting down. It will still be available after the eShop shuts down, so by then get a bigger SD card.

[@Starlight_235]

@@Pandacalifornia redownload is in the eshop

[@crazycockatoo5816]

Great. Now this means the only way to actually own these Virtual Console games is to buy the actual cartridges themselves on their original systems. And all the DSiWare and 3DS digital exclusives will be permanently unavailable to acquire unless they're downloaded via piracy methods.

[@gernonjones8871]

This, this was the decision from Nintendo that made me no longer support them. And Nintendo wonders why people will pirate their games. As Gabe Newell once said, piracy is not a pricing problem. It’s a service problem

[@CocatGaming]

This is why I plan on getting the games I want on my Wii U and 3Ds before this happens. The overpriced stuff is ridiculous.

[@CrazyAfroAli]

4:03 Ha! I only have to pay retail price for any game in my country (it could be a bad thing for incredibly retro games that don’t even have a box though)

[@The_Holy_Wooomy]

Remember everyone, you can still love old Nintendo and dislike modern Nintendo. Old Nintendo was our friend. They arent now

[@BMoser-bv6kn]

They were never our friend, they've always been rent seeking vampires. Remember how much they abused third party developers? The games can be good, but that's peripheral to making money. If the drugs your drug dealer give you don't work right, they won't stay in business long.. right?

[@cosmicsvids]

Diffrent people work there now though they aren't the same exact company they were back then. The only thing that is the same is the name of the company.

[@crystalbry4741]

Unfortunately but they did do some scummy things in the old Nintendo as well. But never this bad. Like it's gotten so bad to the point where on the switch you can't own your retro games anymore and no free online. That's just horrible tbh. It seems since Nintendo's on top now they are putting less effort into games and consoles. They're becoming Disney 2.0 we need another wii u situation so Nintendo can care again. But that'll never happen because people will continue to buy their games and consoles so nothing is going to change sadly.

[@The_Holy_Wooomy]

I think y’all are missing the point. Old Nintendo is your past experience with Nintendo, whenever that may be. Maybe it’s your experience in the SNES age, fighting with Sonic fans about which character is better. Maybe it’s the N64 age, exploring Peach’s Castle and Hyrule. For me, my Old Nintendo the early 2000’s era. My Old Nintendo isn’t the Nintendo today nor is perfectly the Nintendo they were then, but that’s fine. Maybe your Old Nintendo was how they actually were, that’s great! The point is that you can still love your Old Nintendo

[@crystalbry4741]

@@maplemiles3381 they're not like old Nintendo anymore at least business practices wise or more dumb day one updates for their games which isn't good. I'm confused or you talking about the games or business practices?

[@gwrgamer3606]

I knew this day would come, I mean what about Fire Emblem Fates? If you want the full Fates experience you have to physically buy either Conquest or Birthright then buy the other copy physically or electronically and then download Revelations, one could argue we've had enough time to play all these games but some of can't spend £25 on E shop card's whenever we want or only got into the series a couple of year's ago and aren't financially independent and in August you can no longer add funds basically making the service useless. I hope game maker's as a whole will realize that doing these sort's of things benefit's no one, it is indeed a sad day for Wii U and 3DS fans.

[@caracalfloppa4997]

"it's piracy!!!" 1. Most of the stuff I emulate, I own. 2. I play a lot of niche games that will probably never, ever be rereleased. 3. The stuff I don't own, I'm not shedding any tears for the poor billion dollar company with more cash reserves than entire nations. The bigger the company, the more based piracy is.

[@Jsslade]

@@jaxsterminator8634 BEGONE NINTENDO FANBOY! THIS IS YOU-->🤡

[@Jsslade]

@@jaxsterminator8634 Do you seriously take a faceless megacorp so seriously? I'm betting you're a troll.

[@genericperson360]

@@jaxsterminator8634 cap lol I’ve seen you on 8 different reply threads yelling the exact same things

[@caracalfloppa4997]

@@jaxsterminator8634 legality ≠ morality. There's a big difference between pirating a game by a billion dollar company that engages in scummy tactics and pirating an indie game.

[@anonman8661]

Based and piracy pilled

[@MumbleCraftSurvival89]

This got me thinking, I hate how Nintendo doesn’t remove the software from the home menu whenever they discontinue it. Like the Miiverse icon still present on on the top of the 3ds (bottom of the wii u), or the Nintendo Zone icon, both of which just say “This service has been discontinued” when you tap on them. They’re taking up unnecessary space and Nintendo ought to just release a software update that removes their icons from the home menu.

[@StarlightNkyra]

I love Nintendo GAMES. Nintendo games are some of the best in the industry in my opinion. The company is horrible at figuring out what their audience really wants, and they're hit or miss with their business practices, which can be really questionable sometimes. For example, releasing DLC for their bestselling game instead of making a new one is a brilliant idea, however releasing a successor to wii sports and not bundling it in with the console, or advertising Miis in ANY way certainly isn't. Miis were what gave wii sports an identity, and promoting these soulless faces isn't going to do any good for sales. Regardless, playing games from old series is important for Nintendo's customers to really understand the newer games that are released on switch, not to mention a lot of them are extremely fun. Pikmin is my favorite Nintendo series, but I didn't get a shot to play the first two games as I never owned anything before the Wii. They aren't available to me in any way shape or form, but I really want to play those highly regarded games. I don't want to buy the 50 buck expansion just to play them when future consoles and new games inevitably come to the expansion. If Nintendo doesn't understand that paying 50 dollars a year to get random glitchy N64 games and some DLC they might not care about is a bad idea, then shame on them.

[@radioactivecheesenowinnucl4746]

Gonna start buying as many of these games as I can realistically afford. Just bought a bunch of 3DS eShop games tonight (the Kirby spinoffs based on subgames from Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot, Gen 2 Pokemon + Dream Radar, and Super Mario Land + Bros Deluxe), hopefully I can nab most of the ones I've been meaning to play at some point in my life before it all ends.

[@usingtiltcontrols3695]

I also recommend modding your 3DS. I did a couple of months ago and it’s amazing. It’s like the best console ever now

[@radioactivecheesenowinnucl4746]

@@usingtiltcontrols3695 As naive as this will probably sound, I've always been hesitant to mod my 3DS, or any of my consoles period. I'm just kinda one of those people who fears getting it wrong and effectively bricking my console as a result. But I'm gonna get a second-hand 3DS at some point and I'll probably experiment with mods on that.

[@kevmk8997]

Yes it's a huge deal because we are all getting locked out of buying certain things forever if we don't buy them now such as DS games on the Wii U, Streetpass Mii plaza games, NSMB2 DLC and pretty much anything virtual console! I'm so pissed and unhappy with this! It feels way too early to do this and the Wii U and 3DS share the same Nintendo Network as the switch! This is such a bad decision on Nintendo's part! Oh well time to go mass buy things I missed or else I'll never be able to get them ever again... such a sad and scary thought

[@scarlet7960]

No offense but why would you want to buy digital games

[@kevmk8997]

@@scarlet7960 I don't, I get DLC. There are certain games that are digital only though like DS games on Wii U, Streetpasa Mii Plaza games and virtual console games. NSO is garbage and you don't own the games on the service you pay for.

[@scarlet7960]

@@kevmk8997 Ya actually I completely agree

[@redomega]

Its impressive how many videos you’re pumping out

[@Demeech]

It's a bit draining, but I have fun doing it.

[@Ivy_On]

I wish a copyright law would get introduced that made piracy legal for games/movies/music ect that have no way to legally buy them. That would mean games like Legend of Zelda 4 swords anniversary edition, the transformers games, and the eshop exclusives legal to play. It would also deter companies from shutting down their stores. Unfortunately this probably will never happen.

[@timwolfel659]

I personally don’t mind about it. I only had a 3Ds and I bought the Gameboy Pokémon games and some nes Mario bros 3. To me this also has an advantage because Pokémon bank becomes free now. It wouldn’t make sense to „reopen“ a virtual console part in the eshop because there are already many retro games from nes over genesis and even TG16. They should expand this library but „virtual console“ as a brand even in regard of NSW Online doesn’t make sense anymore.

[@mumblesspeedtalker5526]

Nintendo should really just put their older games on Nintendo online or expansion pack should offer all their legacy games it would also increase their user base we don't have access so I don't blame people for emulating.

[@JuscelinoVibecheck]

I just think people have trouble understanding that most criticism is directed at Nintendo as a company, how they deal with their community and how they do their business. It's totally okay to enjoy their games at the same time you think that their business practices suck

[@AlexSpy3DS]

I hate this SO much >:( Like the 3DS and WII U were filled to the brim with Charm: a power of pleasing Not to mention people DISRESPECTING Satoru Iwata's death. COMPLETE AND UTTER MONSTERS D:

[@weberman173]

how is any of this disrespecting iwata? booth consles are at the end of their lifespan

[@AlexSpy3DS]

@@weberman173 Look up a video on youtube that describes in full what nintendo has become without people like Iwata and Reggie

[@weberman173]

@@AlexSpy3DS yay, no, thats not how that works.. There is no "disrespecting" anything here. its consoles at the end of their lifespan, nothing more. the 3ds and wii u where good cnsoles, but they had their time

[@AlexSpy3DS]

@@weberman173 oh... Well I still miss them. They had more Charm overall. What REALLY bugs me is the fact that people just want power instead of charm, which is a real pity because im sure Charm, the power of pleasing, would go a MUCH longer way than just power alone

[@emtomb]

I don't get what Nintendo's deal is with not releasing GameCube games?

[@danielllanes6726]

@@maplemiles3381 wtf do you mean gamecube had an awesome library of games, people would actually buy them on the wii u, ngl

[@ivanzoneBR]

If they just copy and paste all the virtual console games to the NSO, would this be more acceptable?

[@Demeech]

If they get rid of the ugly microwave boarder, yes.

[@crystalbry4741]

@Cobalt the Starseed Knight true

[@crystalbry4741]

I highly doubt they will but who knows tbh. But Nintendo is not the same as they were when iwata was there so probably not.

[@isit0r887]

@@crystalbry4741 please let the dude rest in peace 😥

[@crystalbry4741]

@@isit0r887 ? I'm just saying that Nintendo was better when iwata was there. Is that bad or something?

[@LonelyPixel09]

Are we still going to be able to update games

[@ade1174]

I believe Nintendo should give people the option to buy legacy games separately or subscribe to NSO to receive access like they are doing with the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass.

[@kevmk8997]

That would be really nice. There's so many NES and SNES games I never touch and it would be much better if I can just buy the ones I want and nit a subscription service when I'm not going ro pay every single game it has on there.

[@usingtiltcontrols3695]

The problem is they make much more money through subscriptions and they want you to subscribe to them, so they will never sell those game separately unless NSO fails

[@jayjay-cl1eo]

I don't see the problem of the switch online price it's only 20 or 50 a year not every month and no your excuse can't be that the online is bad

[@LOLMGS]

Bro like online is ok, but paying ONLINE is kind of a joke to me. It made sense on XBOS as it was for mature audience. But you can't use mics or headphones with out that stupid Squid looking thing. And the Nes, Snes and N64 games are either crap or we already played them in emolators or per VC.

[@bananabike279]

Oh dang, I didn't even know the 3DS and Wii U stores are going to close.... Thanks for making this video / warning!!

[@edwardchocolate8898]

At least port the good WiiWare, DSiWare, and maybe even 3DS games on the Switch as $20 to $40 games

[@crystalbry4741]

That'll probably never happen considering Nintendo's current model for retro games.

[@LOLMGS]

@@crystalbry4741 NEW! Pay 60 bucks for a shit game with same FPS problems and with out the DLCs! I can imagen that

[@mk8-mkwil117]

I wonder if the E-shop on the 3DS & Wii-U & Nintendo switch is connected to the same online server.

[@ethanhobbes3476]

>March 2023 _Here we go again…_

[@Demeech]

A CELEBRATION OF MARIO BY ENDING HIM

[@user-sn8zx5mv1x]

March 2025: We are banning every account that has Mario.

[@user-sn8zx5mv1x]

@@M64bros Your channel description has the word "Mario" in it, Banned.

[@jonmccown2323]

I own a couple 3ds xl and WII U. I need to buy a external hard drive for the room to store all the games I need to buy. Hmmm.

[@WilsTube]

Thank god Sony didn’t stoop THIS low! Modding community, away!

[@mariogaming6988]

I hope they dont shut down the eshop for the 3DS and Wii U. It's really nice. But if they do, I might have to homebrew my childhood New 3DS XL

[@custom-r]

While I don't mind the 3DS/Wii U eShops closing, I do have to say things like this: Why not port Xenoblade Chronicles X? How about eventually making other 3DS games reworked for Switch (like say...Fire Emblem Awakening for example)? Even aside from just mere ports of classic titles, I also think that VC is just superior to NSO in every category. Especially price. However, I can see why they wouldn't do it that way. They wouldn't generate as much profit otherwise. Especially when VC offered MORE for an affordable and honest deal. As for liking Nintendo, I mean, as a F-Zero fan it's extremely difficult. As a Nintendo fan in general, however, there isn't as much to criticize them on unlike prior years. Not saying they're completely spotless, but they have done some better moves. Yet, they still have work to do. One last thing. Emulation on other systems such as PC is one of the smartest options as a gamer. We don't have to settle for less when it comes to even Nintendo. Especially when they can't even emulate their own games right.

[@weberman173]

Money They mentioned once iirc taht xenoblade X would be a pretty hefty time and resource investment to port, as they would need to rework some of the mechanics like the frontiernav Trust me i wish XCX came to switch, but i get that it will likely not be a financialy sound decision for example and 3DS titles are even trickier as in case of the wii u games they woudl need to get the engine to run on the switch(which often times already does, XCX for example uses the engine that was later used in XC2 and torna) and otherwise its just touching up textures and somemodels 3DS titles would need to be more fundamentaly reworked and updated. And for the average consumer the NSO is af ar better deal then the VC ever was, especialy as many people play a game once,maybe twice, and never again, especialy retro games

[@jswan2568]

what is the song in the outro? ive been trying to find it but can't:(

[@redomega]

Maple tree way mario kart wii

[@andresreynoso7254]

It’s from the best Mario Kart Wii track wtf is wrong with you? 😪

[@jswan2568]

@@andresreynoso7254 IM SORRY! I thought it was the delfino one on ds, i know im dumb (it is a very good track though) :((

[@b8conbear330]

i really don't know what to say. this is another problem i have now hares why this era stinks. Nintendo is shutting down these eshops, making so many games not available. AND having to resort to emulation. which we all know what's going to happen then. the only comeback for Wii sports is ruined, and i lost all interest. and my other point is that so many games are unfinished and make people lose interest so fast. online is still terrible in my opinion and it doesn't even have half the amount of games we used to have. Nintendo's stuff in 2020 is still a bad taste in my mouth. The company is going to destroy itself and im honestly baffled

[@crystalbry4741]

Unfortunately true

[@b8conbear330]

I sit in misery everyday because Nintendo actually made me feel love for gaming. And now their making me hate modern day gaming

[@b8conbear330]

And their not even providing alternatives for theese games so if people are emulating games it’s all Nintendo’s fault for not making them available. I have a feeling this years gonna be filled with lawsuits on emulation.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@b8conbear330 redo: idk maybe

[@crystalbry4741]

@@b8conbear330 i understand considering what gaming has turned into it's bad.