Twinnuendo | Episode 14: Churches, Money and Rock and Roll

[@3615pbs]

Stay safe, Grant

[@af2313]

Cat 5 😰

[@lefayebrenna]

just want to say twinnuendo has become a highlight of my week

[@EmmaFlorez]

I'm more locked in on Twinnuendo than The Bald and the Beautiful, which also comes out Tuesdays

[@banrions]

Same!

[@Dream312Girl]

Same!

[@antoncannon7279]

I think you guys should bring on a guest!.. I’d suggest a superstar! Someone like.. Alexis P Bevels! Not sure if you are familiar with her work but she’s fun! (P.s this is not Alexis)

[@guilhermeaoshi]

Curtis would be great too

[@CharlieRain1003]

The way this made me suspect this is Alexis' burner account

[@antoncannon7279]

@@CharlieRain1003 🤫🤫🤫 no….*wheezing

[@javiterrazas9825]

"You joined the gay men's choir, which seems redundant, but that's what it's called" 😂😂😂😂

[@TheTidesong]

one of the funniest lines and delivered so well hahahahah

[@jalexander1095]

As a non-profit Director THANK YOU for this! There are so many ways that non-profit funding and giving can be manipulated and transparency is so key. One note about Charity Navigator and some similar sites, they are such great tools BUT often don't start fully evaluating non-profits until you hit a threshold of $300-$500k. But truly never be afraid to ask an organization to look at their financial reports or go to their Board meetings if you are considering donating, especially for large gifts. Any non-profit unwilling to be transparent is 100% a major red-flag and should be approached with caution.

[@blackburdy5261]

I had one of the worst days ever at work, I want you to know coming home and seeing a new episode with you two made my day better.

[@alyssayarbrough6290]

i work the closing shift at a coffee shop in central tx every tuesday and i put this podcast on every week as soon as i close up shop. you two have become a part of my weekly routine and i’m vry appreciative of the solace i’ve found in your stories and compassion you have for each other

[@DonttalktoGrant]

Happy to be apart of your closing routine. ❤ but this does mean you need to split your tips with us.

[@jil7379]

I love this podcast SO much as a ex-ish Christian queer it’s nice to watch every week. My favorite part is hearing Grant sound SO jaded It’s like after a fresh breakup and love doesn’t exist

[@brk726]

Grant, you're the type of man I aspire to be, truly. Stay safe man.

[@MikeyMile5411]

I went to a private Christian high school. Every year we'd have a campaign called DAW/DAD Which means "dollar a week" "dollar a day" And all the students would have to COLD CALL pass alumni, past donators, and church members to ask them to donate a dollar a day/week to help keep our school going For 2 weeks out of the school year, the students were literally used as a call center to collect money for the school It was crazy

[@cypriennezed5640]

Falling down stairs in one's 40s is ROUGH, mostly because everyone is concerned for one's frail breakable body... mortality check! (🤞🏻for hurricane safety)

[@kmurphy111]

Stay safe, Grant! Sending best wishes to you and your family! Thanks for another great ep- I’m grateful for this podcast.

[@BatuhanBerkol]

Idk if it's the editing but the way Drew responds calmly to Grant's jokes reminds me that she's married to Curtis.

[@codyputman5651]

The preachers kid to drag queen pipeline is really wild! I’m also a PK to DQ transplant!

[@spicyboi6601]

I know this probably isn’t a new suggestion but with grant’s degree and experience he could probably teach theology and religion. My brother has a theology degree but isn’t religious and he’s taught at state universities several times. It’s not usually a long-standing position but more experience brings more opportunities. And lots of students are looking to learn about this stuff from a non religious lens. I think grant would be a great teacher about that stuff.

[@belatedly]

Not 5 minutes in and this ep is already filled with bangers. 3:26 Marion Berry is a great drag name, 3:56 My Little Pony theme song.

[@gracielaglows]

Thank u so much for these never stop posting! I really love seeing your relationship as brothers without ur parents as glue. You guys are so sweet and respectful of each other. Great role models fr

[@judeizzabee9543]

having this community and hearing stories from the both of you after I have left the church years ago feels very comforting

[@shaprepenr]

I love that 1) Grant didn’t sort the name of Patrons at the end 2) Darby and Alexis are on the list ❤

[@DonttalktoGrant]

They were in an order of how important those people are to me.

[@Jubellification]

I love that Grant opened up about this stuff - I had NO idea! Some of the stuff you sense when dealing with churches but you don't fully see the big picture the way he laid it out based on his experience. Thank you for just letting him get this all out. It may not have been funny-funny as an episode but I was L-I-S-T-E-N-I-N-G omg

[@Manduhrinoranges]

It brings me so much joy when Grant busts out the “he admit it!”

[@NynaevesBraid]

I was excited to see this pop up in my feed. Stay safe Grant.

[@glooperscooper]

The urge to interrupt and talk over each another person is genetic. Alexis never stood a chance 😔

[@hydra6076]

48:53 oh my god this call!! I was also someone who grew up in Christian Fine Arts and I did Human Videos for years!! I even traveled around the country representing my church!! I am now a trans woman drag queen living several states away from where all that happened and I have no one to talk to about this stuff!! As a now queer person who was literally raised in a mega church this podcast is healing me in so many ways hahah

[@hydra6076]

I did human videos for years, often playing the role of Jesus because I’ve always had long curly brown hair. I knew I was trans since 5th grade but my parents weren’t a fan so my role was a great excuse to keep my hair long

[@karpadiem]

@@hydra6076 Hello Former Human Video Person! :D

[@pleasenohandle]

This is so true. I worked in retail in a former life and the amount of people who would come using a tax exempt card for a church when they were clearly doing personal shopping was gross. It's theft.

[@savannahrichard9021]

I have not had any of these experiences. Thank you for sharing. You two are so funny and honest. One of the few things I watch where I laugh and cry lolol. You the best.

[@EmmaFlorez]

I don't have any money, but if I did, Twinnuendo is the only church I'd donate to. Theramintrees, a former Christian and current(?) therapist, makes KZbin videos about religious abuse and trauma. In one I watched recently, he said people who escape abusive situations may binge content about trauma and cults because it reflects their reality, which has been systematically denied. That's what this podcast does for me. Stay safe, Grant! Sending all my good energy

[@lizcandy37]

Twinnuendo Tuesday! Yay!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@emmas3754]

This podcast has given me something to look forwards to on Tuesdays! I’ve loved every episode! ❤️

[@eggxcuses0662]

Not to be hateful, but I hope that rotted MLM lady gets what she deserves. Yall look cute, love the pod and also hope that Grant and the fam stay safe ❤

[@blaketheawesome830]

I believe The Wild Robot healed Grant. That was such a good movie.

[@javiterrazas9825]

Grant looking gooood

[@nicholasfriedman4640]

Love the pod so much! I’m very happy to be a part of this cult

[@DonttalktoGrant]

Glad to have you. Remember to cut off contact with your family this week.

[@nicholasfriedman4640]

@@DonttalktoGrant Thank youuu, will do! 🫡 Will PayPal dues at the end of month. Well, I guess the Patreon sub might count haha

[@MikeyMile5411]

I love that drew believes in the final fantasy 10 idea of spirits/souls

[@Buffaloreplaced]

Hope you’re safe Grant!!

[@vtekmonstah]

The chapters for the video are incredible little teasers when you’re early on in the video 😂

[@DonttalktoGrant]

I work hard on them…thank you for noticing. 100:23 “Grant says thank you to @vtekmonstah”

[@racehorsecharlie6423]

I'm just here to show my appreciation for Grant's Marion Berry suit.

[@Bob-rt4gy]

LOVE twinuendo … 🎶 so what 🎶

[@daddysangeljetta]

I live for fucking Jesus and it’s so refreshing to see and hear another especially a preacher that understands the concept God didn’t create curse words. If it’s a bit Drew being a pastor we still may never know

[@Cheddee]

I love grammar and all its wonders, it creates moments like this one.

[@j.t.turner]

Praise be 🙏

[@deejlahh]

🎶four little girls…fell out a window🎶

[@christopherm9852]

Speaking of church and stairs, when I was about 9 I fell down 3 flights of stairs in a church once. I was totally fine and more shocked that I made it down all three flights without stopping. It was a staircase that went from the foyer up to the 2nd floor of the steeple, so the stairs were a narrow U shape with no true landings between top and bottom. Surprisingly, not the most embarrassing thing that has happened to me in a church.

[@haze3319]

When he was saying marry and berry suit I kept hearing marionberry which are a delicious variety of blackberries

[@yourfriendbunbury]

I love this.

[@lilitay666]

I love this podcast so much. Stay safe Grant! Can't wait for next tuesday!!!

[@sicnessmedia]

Grant looking sharp AF. 🤌 Also, please stay safe. Much love. ❤

[@rollerblaze5041]

38:19 working at my first non profit I was SHOCKED to learn this is how it works for all non profits. It’s so gross

[@alblin]

Isn't it how it works with literally all corporations though. The larger they are, the more they get away with.

[@rollerblaze5041]

@@alblin I’m not talking about corporations, I’m talking about the lack of oversight/accountability for non profits.

[@cloroxbleachg5377]

Love twinuendo

[@revjospa]

Drew: He was a millionaire! How did he get into heaven? Grant: Through the eye of the needle. It was very painful. Thank you for sharing your stories every week. These little side moments bring me joy.

[@3615pbs]

starting to think Drew should open a gay bar called "bar redacted"

[@aygtets]

I hope you and your family are safe, Grant!

[@HeyLetsDoAThing]

The thing that always got me about churches being tax free is that there’s supposed to be a separation of church and state, but the government has a list of officially recognized religions and only those religions receive tax exempt status. So the government gets to decide which religions are legitimate enough to be tax exempt, and we’re supposed to call that a separation of church and state? They should all be taxed equally in proportion to their overall wealth, and they should have to report all earnings

First of all. Another great episode. Second, the twins need to learn how to walk down stairs for their own safety. That is scary to fall down a flight of stairs. Glad you're safe. And Grant, hope you and your family stay safe in the hurricane. And careful of the crocs in the flooded water. Just saw a TikTok of a family getting home to a flooded home and finding a large one in their home. Stay safe. Also, been meaning to say that I love your little vampire fangs logo. 😊

[@beccabattalio]

I'm curious if Grant has ever seen any of The Righteous Gemstones.

[@DonttalktoGrant]

It’s one of my favorite shows of all time. I have rewatched it countless times. Judy is my idol.

[@beccabattalio]

She and Baby Billy are brilliant 😂

[@BrianZab]

I love this pod ♥️♥️ btw 51:41 can I add Christi Anne into the mix with Penny Costal?

[@rosiemcandrew5648]

Eve Anne Gelical?

[@karpadiem]

@@rosiemcandrew5648 @BrianZab I love these!

[@hollystop]

When grant said he was going to read EVERY comment I really didn’t think he would do it 😂

[@IMHOTheShow]

And yet…here I am. - G

[@gloriacassidy-xl8nk]

1. Luv Grant’s early aughts frat boy hurricane hair. 2. That cussing helps pain study-it’s only effective if you’re not a regular user of foul language

[@aimeeq79]

I love you two so much…. ❤

[@danielservin2233]

I love this show 🥰

[@dotsamantha]

Grant, I first thought you were calling it your Marion Barry suit, and needless to say, I was perplexed.

[@Yibs0000]

Can’t wait to see Darby go through her church era phase 😇

[@karinah5318]

Stay safe, Grant & family

[@chibom0n]

man, I was living in a REALLY old house where the stairs were super worn out and creaky. it was 7am, i’m pmsing and I want cheesecake that I made the night before so I go trotting down the stairs and I slip, falling down a few steps and I ended up smashing my ass cheek so hard on the ledge of the step that it left a dent in my ass. the bruise went a dark purple and you could see the muscle in the bruise. bitch I just wanted cheesecake ugh

[@Bob-rt4gy]

Love this pod

[@olegarioparra451]

Love yall❤❤ i hope grant and ur family stay safe

[@Brewst]

Ha. I also don’t have arms for for long sleeves. Whenever I find longsleeves that fit I get real happy.

[@lefayebrenna]

a mary berry suit??

[@pajamaparty01]

I grew up Unitarian Universalist. My mom was on the board and there definitely was no game, it was volunteer and nobody was making money. They were probably too disorganized to run a scam on people if they wanted to, lol. I'd encourage Grant to check it out. A lot of UUs are ex-christian parents who are looking for a family friendly community where you aren't told exactly what to believe. There's a vague list of Principles, but you don't even have to agree with them all. It's not necessarily even 'spiritual' at my congregation there were people with a wide variety of beliefs about the world including strictly Secular Humanists. They do use a lot of terminology stemming from Christianity, since it evolved out of Christian churches, so that could be triggering for you. There are still a small number of Christian Universalist and/or Unitarian churches in the US, but I don't think any congregations in the UUA consider themselves Christian or have a specific theology.

[@ihateberwald]

I love how churches treat rich donors like fashion houses treat VICs(very impoortant clients who spend a lot of money)

[@karpadiem]

48:18 oh hey! That’s me!

[@Fernando_Ruiz23]

I fricken love this podcast

[@pandaboy5o]

Not to be weird but anytime Darby says something about where she lives im like we must live in the same neighborhood.

[@IMHOTheShow]

She might but you’ll never know because Darby doesn’t go outside because of her porcelain skin.

[@pandaboy5o]

I don’t go outside either but that’s cause of the depression (said in a Darby like tone)

[@espinosaj3]

Marian Berry is a great drag name. Derrick Berry's daughter, cousin? ROFL

[@armendmorina1983]

I enjoy yall

[@_L_o_u_i_e_]

Need a Mary Berry suit

[@Embers.of.Esoterika]

Grant: Thank you for revealing this fundraising in churches scheme while hiding behind the cross.

[@Yibs0000]

Omg for Halloween weeks Pod can Drew dress as Grant and Grant as Drew!?

[@SamuelRosen-lv5jz]

Stay safe Grant 💖 fighting

[@scarynoise996]

The dolls are getting fancy

[@JustWordsAndOpinions]

🖤

[@petapumpkineater7185]

I have been watching all episodes, but just in case i missed it... did Grant tell the lore of how he was fired from the church yet?

[@Stoned4eva69]

Long time follower and I will be going through the episodes again to double check but I’m pretty sure they haven’t gotten into the nitty gritty but Grant had been questioning his own faith so I don’t think the church would be happy about that and then bad mouthed him to the congregation and ex communicated him and his family. Please correct me if I’m wrong!!

[@j.t.turner]

Idk what who lore is but he was obviously fired for wearing glasses like a 4 eyed nerd.

[@themightyalma6034]

Grant is pretty cool for a straight guy.

[@robertgriffith9703]

You sure You weren't Pushed down those Stairs Grant? Did You see any Collies? Lassie (Allegedly) liked pushing People, preferably little boys, down wells. They move like Ninjas. Hard to Spot (Pun). They work for Hire. Do You Know Anybody who'd want You "Taken Care Of"? Marry & Bury would be a new Flavor from Ben & Jerry's.

[@TheFloon]

Stay safe Grant! I'll be hunkered down about an hour southeast of you hoping this thing somehow dodges us both.

[@IMHOTheShow]

But if it can’t miss both of us, I kind hope it goes your way…but stay safe!

[@dyce3754]

growing up in the UCC sometimes the episodes are hard because the same words and terms describe two different gods, two different doctrine, and this can bring stress knowing these evil people are weaponizing gods love for evil. Fundamentalism is in the same boat as Scientology. i am blessed to never have been fed the false fundamentalist gospel. im so incredibly sorrry christ has been tainted forever for you both.

[@dyce3754]

moreover im sorry these people inflicted trauma and greif onto you. blessings.

[@pajamaparty01]

Yeah not all churches are as bad as what Grant describes. It seems like he was so deep in the Evangelical/Southern Baptist world he has never noticed that. He probably was in the world of Christians who don't even accept congregations who don't follow their exact doctrine as real churches.

[@angeljernigan291]

I used to go to nationals with Assemblies of God doing the “human video” back in late 90s. Ohhhh the anxiety.

[@karpadiem]

Oh my god! What years? I was 2002-2004! -Jake

[@angeljernigan291]

@@karpadiem I was way before that. lol it would have been 96-98. We went to Missouri one year and Orlando my last year.

[@karpadiem]

@@angeljernigan291 I know folks in my old church that went those years!

[@Hexicism]

if you stop this podcast im going back to church every weekend

[@Thinkinboutnuthin]

❤❤❤

[@Umyeahiguess0]

❤

[@Basey]

My sister-in-law’s cousin had a woman came up to her in the store & say “I’m praying for M” (M being my sil’s name). So the cousin called M & told her what happened & said the woman had also given her a card with her name, her church name, and contact # on it. M was really freaked out but I told her this is a scam the church is running to ultimately get more money! I looked them up & the “leader” calls himself a prophet and one review said he checks his PayPal during services to see how much he’s been sent. Sick.

[@itsdragherjade]

grant in this suit.. just, hi... (respectfully)

[@EmmaFlorez]

Not the Mary Berry Great British Bake Off suit

[@andrearepetto217]

This is my first Twinnuendo episode after watching Darby for so long and can I just say how weird it is that Grant is like SO straight?

[@DonttalktoGrant]

I can’t help it. I was born this way.

[@SailorYen89]

Hope the hurricane doesn't explode your house grant! also, have you considered becoming a religious historian or uh, bible.. scholar? i can't remember what it's actually called. but essentially putting your knowledge of the bible and Christianity into a more historical and fact checky and learned way outside of being part of the religion. I don't know if there's even money in that but it's a potential way for your degree to come in handy!

[@TY-qr4dq]

To be fair, Pedro has liked a couple IMHO videos on Instagram, sooo 💁

[@micbroyo]

Grant be safe ❤

[@moxiemfox]

Could someone timestamp those crazy zoom ins?

[@davidcancun]

The stealing was turned up to a 10 at my grandparent's church and Iooking back I can see how much they sacrificed and went without because of all that money. They don't care stealing from a kid making 600 dollars a month or poor old people on social security. We had the 10%, 200 usd a month promise for church expansion, offerings, money for guest pastors, food for food sales plus anything else they could sell them.

[@Bazibishop]

My dads

[@DonttalktoGrant]

Clean your room.

[@tulethos]

Eyyyyyyyyy

[@ipw6fp]

Lol I know the examples are for because churches are supposed to be giving, but every company does this. Complain we don't have money, Yada Yada, oh but leadership is staying at 5-star business hotels because heaven forbid they stay at a decent holiday Inn