Impatient Drivers Go Around Railroad Crossing Gates, Crew Gets Mad.. At Me! Railroad Switching Spur

[@rachelolvera9435]

Boy they were Pissed off about being filmed.

[@JawTooth]

Wait till you see part 2. I wasn't going to post it but I probably will after I deleted some of the things the conductor said. In part 2 I filmed them in Franklin Ohio after this video and they stopped the train and the conductor got off and walked to my car to get the license plate number. Then he called the cops on me and said I was trespassing on railroad property. I was on public property the whole time and got it all on video. I might post it next week, I don't know.

[@rachelolvera9435]

Responding to your comment - wow!

[@Eddy63]

@@JawTooth Post it ...

[@BradRains]

@@JawTooth What did the cops have to say to you, if anything?

[@PB-bn9bq]

Please post that.

[@daf827]

That’s such a bummer to get called out by the crew for recording on public property. Lots of people get freaked out when being recorded. Maybe this crew has never witnessed a railfan! To quote Neil Young, “Don’t let it bring you down.” You, your doggies and your videos are much appreciated by your fans. Keep on keeping on, JT!

[@craigfazekas3923]

"It's only castles burning".....

[@michaelroark3263]

If the railroad would show some consideration to drivers by shutting off the crossing signal when they're not using it people wouldn't be so tempted to run the gates.

[@NUKE-W.E.F.]

Agreed

[@chrisobvious]

Lots of crossings have detectors that can detect when the train isn't moving, and lift the gates. This crossing isn't one of those, but since the railroad is too cheap to install a proper crossing detector I think people should cut the drivers some slack.

[@aaronb4936]

You do realize the railroad cannot just flip a switch and pick up the gates right?

[@NUKE-W.E.F.]

@@aaronb4936 True, but this train was well past the signal. . Something wasn’t right here.

[@michaelroark3263]

@@aaronb4936 I'm sure they could if they put their mind to it.

[@hernanpatricioorellanaalar3473]

Yes, ignore them Mr. Jaw Tooth! A lack of patience! Thanks for your report Mr. Jaw Tooth! Have nice Sunday! 😀👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@JawTooth]

Thanks, you too!

[@awizardalso]

If the train was sitting still, I'd go around the gates myself.

[@lptvboy]

I’ve seen that video too on dual train tracks one train sitting and the gates go down for one passing on the other side of it. Right as the car crosses so does the other train at 50mph

[@briggsjos]

This is straight from the National Highway Transportation Safety Board aka NHTSB. In every state, it’s illegal for you to go around a lowered crossing gate or to ignore signs or flashing lights posted at a railroad crossing. Trains always have the right-of-way, and for good reason: Trains can’t swerve, stop quickly, or change direction to avert collisions.

[@kevinrichards3288]

I've seen many unpatient people at crossings that have 2 tracks. A split second after only 1 train passes, they immedietaly cross over while the gates are still down for the last few seconds not expecting a second train to come. It's better to lose a few minutes in a life than to lose a life in a few minutes.

[@NaYawkr]

Crossing gates lull drivers into a false sense of security. When the gates stay down blocking traffic when the train is not a threat, and people learn to ignore the warning lights, and rely on their own judgement the Railroad is inadvertently encouraging drivers to ignore the lights and gates.

[@jeffthompson9622]

I received numerous dents and a hole in my vehicle from a gate runner in 2019 in Moncks Corner, SC, who got in Amtrak's right of way. Parking was adjacent to the tracks and over a dozen vehicles were damaged by stones thrown up by dragged parts of the pickup whose driver couldn't wait. Amazingly, the driver was able to walk away after being freed. His cab must not have been in line with the train.

[@ericzerkle5214]

That horn though!

[@kenworcester4387]

This filming issue is a challenging one. You have the legal right to film on public property and we your fans enjoy your work. I guess the question is does a person have right to say they do not want to be filmed? They certainly don't have the right to lie to get you in trouble. In fact, they opened themselves up to charges since they lied to law enforcement. It would have been better for them to say to you "We do not wish to be filmed". You are good about not zooming on workers, so it isn't a matter of being able to identify them in your posts. In the end, you did nothing wrong from what I can see. They handled the situation wrong. Too bad they don't understand they have an admiring public that appreciate what they do, are blessed by the opportunity to watch these magnificent machines because of your efforts.

[@happycamper8895]

Isn't there a limit to how long a train can block a road? In Michigan, it used to be 10 minutes. If the railroad exceeded the time e, they were heavily fined. This may have been the reason they were upset of you filming them.

[@colin5296]

Modern times old friend , First never pass a crossing gate trains and cars don't mix well , Secondly as for the Crew perhaps it has something to do with the barrier operation and the part they should play, I only know about the UK having worked on our Railway ,but take comfort from this ,the only time someone gets pissed for being filmed is usually when there doing something they should not be doing . The only Guy doing the right thing is you ,so keep on truckin Son and the crew can Kiss my SD40 .

[@tytn9978]

I suspect it is "normal" since I assume that the adding and subtracting of train-cars at this unique location happens frequently, and so locals at least take the chance. Is it safe? I fear that at some point someone who is not local will follow the leader and will get hurt.

[@robertdean9392]

#1 PUBBLIC SIDEWALK #2 30 FOOT OR MORE FROM TRACK/ CROSSING = GOOD TO GO. You were not filming close enough to get faces or names. Ignore them

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Robert!

[@EvansBrickhouse]

Even if he filmed faces or names it’s not against the law.

[@beeble2003]

@Robert Dean Distance from the track is completely irrelevant. Their faces or names are irrelevant. He is in a public place. The people he's filming are clearly visible in or near that public place and not doing anything for which there would be an expectation of privacy. He can film whatever he wants in that situation.

[@mikehudsonrocks9585]

They are lucky to have a responsible guy like you filming. Please ignore them. Always outstanding work, JT!

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Mike!

[@lpasch34]

I watch all your videos jaw tooth

[@lpasch34]

I really love trains and I know so much about them

[@papazahn]

Glad I live in a place where the yardmaster will stop and hand out free NS calendars.

[@JawTooth]

Awesome!

[@icebolt0864]

They have free RR calendars!?

[@tonys4250]

When the guy said he was going to get your plate number should have yelled "Why do you need my plate number?" then hold up your scanner. You think it pissed them off because your filming them, it would piss them off even more if they find out your also listening to them.

[@deepspire]

No! Don’t get defensive and don’t escalate anything. Just shrug and say “fine.” (The only reason he ‘threatened’ that was to invoke a reaction.)

[@htomc42]

Long ago as a kid, I sent a letter to Southern RR asking about trains. To this day, I'm impressed at the huge pack of stuff they sent. I suspect this hostility toward railfans would not have flown back then.

[@JawTooth]

Awesome! I lived right next to the Southern Railroad mainline in 1984

[@ardalla535]

Yep, when I was kid my parents knew someone at Southern and he gave me a big pack of photos and other stuff. This was in the 50s. I even got invited to take a ride on the locomotive and blow the whistle.

[@Bryan-Hensley]

It probably wouldn't flow now if the right people heard about it. Might be time to get ahold of corp.

[@icebolt0864]

@@ardalla535 I wanna throw the switch so bad!

[@RailfanNetwork]

Some people get weirded out when they see someone filming. But how most train crews don't know who you are by now is strange. Have a GREAT weekend Jawtooth!!

[@JawTooth]

They didn't know me because I have only filmed this crew a couple times. I filmed them after this video in Franklin Ohio from public property and they actually stopped the train and got off and walked over to my car to get the license plate number and then called the cops on me.

[@Bravestar1217]

@@JawTooth Wow. I suppose that crew has never seen VirtualRailFan then, been through the Altoona Horseshoe curve, Cordele, GA, Deshler or any other rail park. Or they are up to.no good while on the job.

[@77thTrombone]

For all they know, some lawyer hired you to record their mistakes for some lawsuit, or for the NS safety baron in Atlanta. This is why I'm convinced Mr JT's reception would be universally changed if he wore a Speedo. Heck, if he has "issues of modesty," he could wear a Lady Speedo. I'm sure that would not alter the special & transformational reception they'd give him. People respond to Speedos. That's why they wear them at the Olympics.

[@vmsysprog]

The crew should stay focused on the task at hand vs. worrying about somebody video taping on public property. Accidents happen because people aren’t focused on what they should be doing.

[@gotchagoing8843]

@@vmsysprog Or saying...

[@tammiegetz9606]

Hey JT just wanted to say that train guy had nothing better to do than just complain,u did nothing wrong u were on public ground,have good day my friend😀😀😀

[@jaminova_1969]

Maybe the train crew should focus more on their jobs and not worry about the railfan filming them? It's still a free country right?

[@tammiegetz9606]

@@jaminova_1969 I agree

[@SuperJ213]

A more accurate title would be: Patient Drivers Finally Go Around Railroad Crossing Gates After Unreasonable Delay, Crew Discusses Me Without Exhibiting Anger! Railroad Switching Spur

[@BillBrasky7718]

Just sayin. Underrated comment of the year here! Hilarious!🤣

[@chrisperry1151]

I don’t think you should delete anything. Play it loud and proud!

[@ronstrulic4388]

And this is exactly why train crews can't stand foamers.

[@chrisperry1151]

@@ronstrulic4388 Please. The guy is a RR fan bringing good stuff to lots of viewers while doing absolutely nothing illegal.

[@NiceMuslimLady]

@@chrisperry1151 Jawtooth could get in trouble with youtube if someone reports it.

[@chrisg8270]

@@NiceMuslimLady report him for what?

[@NiceMuslimLady]

@@chrisg8270 The cursing. KZbin could demonitize his channel or restrict it to 18+ only because of the language.

[@Canuck1000]

I hope you were able to show the video to the cops which indicated that we you were on public property (hopefully, we'll see that in part 2). Then, file a formal complaint with NS for harassments.

[@phin12710]

Maybe the conductor had a bench warrant for his arrest and was afraid he would be recognized when your video aired.

[@markeholbrook]

My cousin wrecked a train at Armco in Middletown. He was high on drugs, they sent him to rehab, then he got caught selling drugs on the property and lost his job. Then he eventually got a job doing construction but he had a heart attack and couldn't work after that. Then he had another heart attack which killed him. I knew he was bad news but I loved him. RIP Buddy.

[@6680thSOG]

I worked for a class 1 road here, and have a couple buddies who are engineers. One of them told me, crews who dont like guys filming are usually doing stupid stuff, or have had railfans interfere or get too close. I actually saw an idiot using a FLASHLIGHT to get better lighting and shining it AT the locomotive..either way...Keep up the good work. We live in a very angry world, but guys like you give us some good quality enjoyment. Sorry the crew were so rough. Who knows what was going on with them...or, maybe they work for UP (LOL)

[@armageddon1981]

I work for UPRR in the Chicago service unit and i don't act anal like that...plus UPRR territory does not go that far east...we're west of the Mississippi except for trackage in Memphis,TN. Those were NS guys...what's your beef with UP huh? *gives instense stare*

[@6680thSOG]

@@armageddon1981 LOL no beef with UP employees and it was admittedly a dig on you all (I work PT for.....CN... *dramatic menacing music* but I've worked with enough UP crews to know the morale there is not the greatest. I am sure I dont need to tell the joke about how you cant spell a 'certain word' without UP ...They call us "the lazy 3 route" or "wet noodle lines" . Nothing but love for most of you angry UPers!

[@armageddon1981]

@@6680thSOG 😂😂😂😂 it's all good, of course i use the slogan about "not getting stUPid without UP in the middle" a whole lot. Just tell your Yardmasters at CN Markham,il yard to quit holding us for 7 hours and then expecting us to yard a 9000 ft train with just 1hr and a half left😂😂😂😂😂. Stay safe out there👍👍👍

[@JawTooth]

Thanks for your support!

[@bluemax439]

EXACTLY.....If I had to guess in this particular case... I would say this..."me thinks these people protest too much". WHY? Because the fact that we have a female engineer and a male conductor....might there be some hanky-panky going on here?.....might they think they are being spied on? Again...."me thinks they protest too much!!!!"

[@normanguinard8435]

Crews only get angry about being filmed when they are doing something against the rules and they do not want to be caught - just my experience.

[@jasonervoes1326]

Yes because they're paranoid

[@skimmer8774]

Give them a McDonalds gift certificate and you'll have a friend for life.😊

[@kevinrichards3288]

Ba-da-ba-ba-ba

[@josephpalmieri3095]

Don't worry about that crew. We love ya' JT.

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Joseph!

[@douglasw.7864]

Wonder why they had an issue with you filming JT? Makes you wonder. I was in Middleton just last week.

[@AndreiTupolev]

They deserve to be broadcast publicly as appalling ambassadors for the company

[@MSmith-sixfiddle]

I agree. If this crew were an example of what kind of company Norfolk Southern is,I would never use them to haul any of my freight. They just might be doing something wrong, dangerous or illegal and don't want it filmed. Train crews used to be really nice people. Not sure what turned this crew.

[@MysticalHarmonizer]

the person who drove the car that turned around had the most sense.

[@davidstart1748]

Another great video! What's NS's problem with you taping from sidewalk off their property? Interesting, part#2 please!!!

[@JawTooth]

Good question!

[@cp368productions2]

Wouldn't be NS, just that crew. I have never had such behavior from an NS crew in my life.

[@davidstart1748]

@@cp368productions2 Point well made!

[@briand5521]

I work in a Rail terminal and we're constantly being reminded to watch for unusual activities such as filming do to the constant threat of terrorism, and yes I know JT is not a terrorist or could be they just don't like being filmed , those guys definitely didn't good video Jawtooth

[@JawTooth]

Yeah, I stay back and never approach them. The guy closest to me didn't seem to mind but it was the guy way at the end of the train inside the customer property who didn't like it. Thanks for your comments Brian!

[@chrisobvious]

I like how you're being constantly reminded to be on the lookout for the thing that never actually happens. It's a total hypothetical, whereas real safety problems are ignored because fixing them costs money.

[@chrisobvious]

@J Navarro Yeah but terrorism has a specific definition and the things you're talking about are vandalism. Terrorism has to be politically motivated with a political goal to be called terrorism. If you never know who did something or why they did it, it cannot be terrorism, by definition. After 9/11 in the USA, the government paid some people to sit around and dream up stuff to warn the public about. That's where you got stories back then - very scary stories all over the news - to be on the lookout for things like beer coolers (because they might be bombs) and, in the case of trains, hobos (because they might be terrorists attempting to move around the country undetected). None of those things ever happened nor were they based on anything real. I think we can look back on such things today and see it as another sad chapter in the human story of irrational paranoia, like the satanic panic of the 1980's. On the other hand, you hear stories all the time of railroad workers being discouraged from reporting safety hazards - things that could get people killed - because the company doesn't want to spend money fixing things if they can avoid it.

[@mdf58]

Anyone could go out and photograph or record video surreptitiously. No need to advertise oneself with conspicuous video gear. Being suspicious of obvious photography is - as said in another comment - the same as the satanic panic of 40 years ago.

[@beeble2003]

"I work in a Rail terminal and we're constantly being reminded to watch for unusual activities such as filming" Dear Railroads, You may have noticed that there are these people called "railfans". You might haven noticed them because, you know, there are a lot of them. _A lot._ They like taking photographs of your trains and making videos of your trains and this is completely normal. "Unusual", the word you use, is the exact opposite of "normal". If somebody is filming your trains, that is not an "unusual activity". That is a normal activity. Jeez.

[@alcopower5710]

I like that saying at the end “remember to stay positive but not test positive “ lol

[@JawTooth]

Thanks, yeah, it seems to fit the occasion. lol

[@KB-gs8zi]

Hey Bryan !!! Jason up there in the MI.. U/P has the same issue with the RR up there if you watch his videos !!! Guess they DON"T like Railfans ??? ""KEEP IT SAFE ""!!!

[@JawTooth]

I was way back also. I can't believe how they act. lol

[@brianhickey5949]

They need to upgrade that crossing detector. Newer ones go on train speed not just track location (I think you told us that?). That would have lifted the gates and the cars could have gone on. Blowing gates is a fools errand, but folks are mighty impatient these days and so we see what happens :) I am not sure why RR workers don't understand railfans. Seems to me they think it is invading their workspace which couldn't be farther from the truth! There are lots of us who love watching the short lines work - especially at a customer location. It might be that they think you are filming how long they hold the crossing closed and they are sensitive about it. Heck I enjoy this stuff! Thanks :)

[@JawTooth]

I filmed this same crew in Franklin Ohio from the sidewalk and they called the police. The conductor stopped the train and walked over to my car to get the license number.

[@brianhickey5949]

@@JawTooth Makes no sense. Bunch of grumpy RR guys that should find other work.

[@bhuff123]

They may not like to be film but as a photographer you’re in public property you can film and take pictures what you want and they probably don’t even know that you even have a radio so hey there just a bunch of losers

[@JawTooth]

You should see part 2 for this video. I filmed this crew in Franklin Ohio from the sidewalk and they called the police.

[@richardsylvanus2717]

@@JawTooth O M G!

[@bootsdocsandconspiracies6589]

@@JawTooth Is this the same female engineer you filmed previously a few times when doing the street running in Franklin? Though she was friendly than?

[@budjamison2149]

Why drive around when you can sit there and watch the trains?

[@JawTooth]

That’s what I say. It only took a few minutes.

[@Backlitshitbox]

Ikr

[@musclecarmitch908]

Great video Jawtooth! It's ashame some people don't understand railfanning, they must think there being filmed for a bad reason or something I guess they don't understand alot of folks like to see trains, maybe someday they will see some videos and understand. Thanks for sharing!

[@Galaxy2517]

They'd lose their minds if they ever went through a popular spot having a railfanning weekend!

[@jonglass]

I don't think their problem was with you, but with the other guy who had been there the other day. Apparently, he did something they didn't like, and thought you were him back again. Their complaint wasn't with what you were doing, but with what had happened earlier with the other guy. That's how I read them.

[@Cam-cb4io]

Karen in the locomotive complaining about you filming!

[@charlottecunningham2141]

Lol

[@parrott350]

LOL 'Karen'

[@thomasfletcher4765]

Cool video work 👍 . Some people will find anything to complain about . Hoping to see part 2 , but it's all up to you if you decide to post it . Have an awesome day , JT !

[@JawTooth]

Thanks 👍

[@46fd04]

IMHO, the railway employees should be able to manually shut the gates off for a few mins. while the cars are being connected, or have a 3rd employee who can flag cars thru. It's good P.R. for the RR company.

[@tomsdotter3228]

I can understand not wanting to wait so long at a crossing, but I wouldn't go around. My cousin got a $450 ticket for going around one in Georgia!

[@SebisRandomTech]

In my experience Norfolk Southern in particular tends to be hostile towards railfans. Just another thing not to like about the company in my opinion...

[@nathanputt6356]

Who else love idling train engines.

[@terryboyer1342]

Nathan I like notch 8 EMDs. But idlings cool too!

[@JawTooth]

I do!

[@intruderone234]

gate running is a dangerous thing to do. I saw no problem with your filming, maybe a bad day for them.

[@michaelandrew677]

Some people just don't appreciate being recorded. MOST people don't appreciate being recorded. It doesn't matter where you're standing when you're recording them.

[@bluemax439]

I don't think it is a concern of theirs. I do believe it IS a male/female "mating" conversation. Doesn't matter, the subject...it's the mating conversation...period....!!!!

[@BillBrasky7718]

After watching these and many of the "first amendment audit" videos I know how I will be acting if I ever see dudes filming in public.

[@michaelandrew677]

@@BillBrasky7718 All I can say is that if I told someone to stop recording me, that would not be framed as a request. They can claim they have a right all day long, but they'd be doing it while their camera was recording the inside of their colon and they were taking their food through a straw. I don't see a problem in recording some train roaring by at 60mph, but the instant your recording becomes a distraction of any kind to people trying to do their jobs, then you have an ethical obligation to cease and desist.

[@timosalazar9785]

@@michaelandrew677 If the person recording you is in a public place, you're going to jail for assault and battery if you do what you just said. Calm down, if you're that sensitive, stay home.

[@PeterNGloor]

Even in the communist GDR it was not forbidden to photograph trains from publicly accessible spots.

[@darrylnelson6264]

In this case the gate should of been up or the conductor should wave them through.

[@wernerrenfftlen6471]

That conductor was giving you the evil eye!

[@JawTooth]

It gets worse in part 2 of this video when I filmed this same crew in another town. They stopped the train and called the cops on me

[@saddletramp1860]

@@JawTooth Never thought railfanning would would make you a 1st Amendment auditor. Hope the cops didn't try and jack you up over it.

[@natiman1345]

@@JawTooth is part 2 posted?

[@wernerrenfftlen6471]

@@JawTooth Looking forward to watching your upload of that video. You're obviously stepping on sensitive toes. haha

[@Eddy63]

Could you have asked the conductor what the problem was ... The other filmer must have did something wrong for them to come after you ... Oh well , Pt 2 is next ...

[@JawTooth]

He was inside the grounds of the customer so I couldn't but I didn't want to get near him anyway. I don't think he likes railfans. I remember filming this same train at a crossing near here and he called me a loser. I'm pretty sure it was the same guy. I stay back because I don't want to get assaulted and my camera stolen again like what happened when I filmed that crew backing a train across the road last year.

[@tokelosellosrailwaychanel3208]

Jaw Tooth never dissapoints. Thank you for uploading your cool railway spottings everyday

[@JawTooth]

Glad you like them!

[@tokelosellosrailwaychanel3208]

@@JawTooth your content is something else man. You give out detailed info and you don't just shoot a video of a random train and post it on KZbin. . I appreciate your channel ❤️❤️❤️

[@paulbergen9114]

Judging by the distance the train sat away from the Xing the first time you'd think the circuit would have sensed the inactivity and gone up. The real problem would be at a dual track Xing and not see an opposing train or misjudge their speed. The SD40 looks out of place on that track and even the Thiele tank car looks more at home at a paper mill (kaolin clay) RR crews can be finicky as some think you're a management snoop or the careless fan who gets too close and the crew also has to look out for them. Perhaps a cape with the JT emblem would put them at ease knowing theyre going into a quality film production

[@markeholbrook]

I remember when I was a kid living in Middletown, you couldn't get across town without getting a train in your way! I loved it!

[@JawTooth]

I wish it was still like that. I wanted to film a long train going by the station but none came.

[@markeholbrook]

I sometimes feel like the car is going sideways real fast when I watch a train at a crossing. I think the tracks have moved so there are less crossings now. I liked to ride my bicycle to Armco and watch the glowing hot steel on flat cars at night. that was over 50 years ago.

[@joerogers4227]

@@markeholbrook I remember going over the river and it was always orange red because of the Armco rolling mill.

[@markeholbrook]

@@joerogers4227 Snow turned orange in a day, pilot lights went out all the time because of low gas pressure when the blast furnaces were running, All the sunsets were red.

[@WideWorldofTrains]

Some crews dont like when you film them. I have on camera a crew member of a train saying he would like to take my camera and shove it! Didnt say to me but I heard it on the radio

[@ogtme]

Why on earth would anyone be upset about someone filming trains? My dad would’ve said they were probably constipated🙄 Keep on filmin, JT👍 From your fan friend Betsy in Washington, DC🐶🐶🐶

[@JawTooth]

Thanks Betsy!

[@pubgkiller6954]

I'm A Engineer for BNSF What You Did Was Just Fine Your On Public Property They Were Just Being Rude About Being on Video. Cause If They Made A Mistake Which They Made A Couple Mistakes While Switching On That Video. One Was While They Let Person Walk across The Tracks While Gate was down and being so close To The The Locomotive.

[@robertpsieving4401]

Maybe you got the crew that Jason Aselin gets in upper Michigan

[@JawTooth]

There are a few of them out there. I try to stay back from them. I guess you remember the one last year who took my camera

[@robertpsieving4401]

Thought I'd let you know about when I was in Bucyrus, OH several years ago. I was taking still pics of the Ohio Railroad Crane Co. Several cranes were sitting in plain sight when someone from the company came up to me on the other side of the fence telling me that I would have to give him my camera. I too was on a public sidewalk. I just told him to come and get it & then left

[@warminghurst]

Should have asked them to show the camera their union cards or other ID, to save the company time in sacking them for doing whatever it was they were feeling guilty about for doing wrong.

[@Deadbuck73]

Whoever was filming them the other day was probably a Turkey... not you! Maybe they think your running a distraction to allow shoestring to hop on! Little do they know he’s up north...

[@larrycurran8036]

They must have had something to hide. 😺

[@JawTooth]

The guy complaining was way out of the picture inside the customer property coupling and uncoupling the cars. I didn't even get him on video until I filmed this crew in the next town when he came up to me and told me his dissatisfaction with me. lol. Then he called the cops on me and lied . He told them I was trespassing. I though Norfolk Southern was better than that.

[@77thTrombone]

@@JawTooth I don't work for NS, but don't let that 1 guy reflect the whole outfit. Of course, if you see a pattern among NS crews, that's a different kettle of fish...

[@gotchagoing8843]

@@77thTrombone Rotten fish...

[@jaynecobb3701]

​@@JawTooth Lying to the police is a crime. Photography is not a crime.

[@parrott350]

LOL , You know what that radio traffic is about Mr. JawTooth, they want to try to get a 'Legend' in trouble with the law. I concur with another comment on here. If Wick Moorman was still in charge this type behavior would not be occurring. Great video, Heck that SD40-2 is probably almost 45 years old I bet ?That's why Mr Jawtooth was video-ing the switching ! Not because of the 'enthusiastic' work ethic of the crew! An old Conrail unit with crappy horn. They should have saved the Southern units.

[@matthewbrandley9027]

Ashame that some of these railroad crews are real tools

[@robermv32]

When I was younger, way back in the early 60's, those railroad men were more than happy to talk to us and share their stories. They knew we held them in high esteem. But today....they seem just nasty to the public. Like that dude standing by the turnout, could be waving those cars through while the Engine is clear...just to be considerate of the other people in the area.

[@JawTooth]

I remember the 60s being invited into cabooses and locomotives. One time in the 80s I got to ride in a caboose all night long on a local

[@NWORails]

I've seen one of them do that actually. They were hooking onto train cars in Leipsic Ohio and they had to stop to wait for the conductor to check to see if everything was ready but they were parked too close to the crossings and triggered them to stay down, so the engineer got out and waved them to go through the crossing.

[@rudolffabrie3233]

Ridiculous that the gates remain closed

[@Peasmouldia]

The fact that the guy lied about you trespassing makes me think they have something to hide. They clearly feel that people filming are limiting their ability to circumvent regulations, or worse... Thanks JT.

[@alcopower5710]

I bet you’re right

[@ronstrulic4388]

I bet you're not. I'm a conductor and I have no problem with people filming my locos and cars. I do have a big problem with them filming me. I have nothing to hide. It's just called respect. I wouldn't come to your job and film every step you take and post it all over social media. Maybe if you look at it that way you can understand some. We're not out there for your entertainment.

[@ut000bs]

@@ronstrulic4388 Well, I appreciate your reply but I should point out you actually are out there for our entertainment.

[@jayforkner2692]

@@ronstrulic4388 Doesn't the train have a right-of-way? If Jaw Tooth was on ROW then he was trespassing.

[@ronstrulic4388]

@@ut000bs your comment and your lack of respect is why train crews hate you. You're the exact reason we have you removed.

[@upengineerbobs]

Caryl here. I couldn't resist making a few comments. My husband Bob is an engineer for the U.P. out of Los Angeles. He works a switch engine putting trains together. He always gets his trains out on time. He has a female trainmaster who gives him a load of crap at least twice a shift. Railroading is a man's world and women don't belong in it, especially in a supervisory position. They are insecure and always trying to prove themselves. They shouldn't be Engineers either. That's a man's job. This lady engineer needs to keep her mind on her job. She's more likely to make a mistake than a man. By the way, my husband doesn't mind railfans as long as they don't get in the way, because he's a railfan himself! Have fun!!

[@carjockey7]

My grandfather worked for the railroad it’s called the Texas and Pacific Railway and he has seen a lot of people die at the crossings so my advice is stop and wait no matter how long the train takes to cross

[@beeble2003]

The cars going around the gates are breaking the law. However, when that many people decide to break the same law, you have to question whether the law is correct or being correctly implemented. In this case, the law is clearly correct but the implementation stinks. The railroad (as an organization; not talking about anything this specific crew could or could not have done) should not be closing roads without reason. If a trucking company habitually parked trucks across that road for minutes at a time, they'd be fined for obstruction. The railroads operate with zero consideration for other users of the spaces they cross. Yesterday, I was watching a video that included a grade crossing on a sharp bend with a 10mph speed restriction. CSX's trains on that line are so long that some of them take nearly 15 minutes to pass that crossing.

[@SuperBuzzbomb]

Hey next time you happen to film them have a large sign that says " Jawtooth Like and Suscribe!" Maybe they will actually learn something from the information you provide in your videos.

[@JawTooth]

Awesome idea!

[@jorgeargerich1091]

Ohh... these poor guys lost the opportunity to become famous... Jaw Tooth videos are seen all over the world !!! Nothing will stop you for sure 👏😊

[@wayymore]

Hey Man, like the trains you catch!

[@Khaltazar]

I wouldn't consider those drivers impatient. I think they waited a sufficient amount of time and saw the train is not moving so went because they thought the gates were not working properly. As for filming, you aren't doing anything illegal, but if I am honest, it is annoying. There are many people in the world who don't like being on film (even if they are not actually recognizable, it isn't fun being watched doing your job), yet alone in a situation where they are being filmed but cannot leave because they are performing a job. Put yourself in their shoes, imagine random people filming them each day, I can imagine that gets aggravating. For example, when I worked at a fast food place that was being boycotted many years ago, people recorded me cleaning the parking lot and it was really annoying. Asking them to please stop is likely going to get by face on camera even better and they are technically allowed to since they are on the side walk. I still thought they were assholes though.

[@clivemortimore8203]

Well done JT for not confronting the conductor. Hopefully someone form Norfolk Southern sees this and will remind their staff that filming from public land is not a problem. In fact hopefully they will use you video to inform the police of the cars and trucks that put their staff in danger by going around the crossing gates. Thanks for another good video.

[@colesrc1618]

I think cutting the crossing really depends on a case to case basis. I definitely wouldn’t risk my safety to get past a mainline train going 60mph. But rightfully, people aren’t as concerned about a local. Because they don’t have time to wait for the train to change direction and switch out freight cars.

[@Galaxy2517]

I'd wave at them and hold up my scanner..... I can hear y'all 😉😉

[@robertf3479]

Doing that would probably piss them off even more. Does anyone remember 'party line phones' and how people would get pissed if you picked up and heard just PART of a 'private' call? A two way radio IS a party line that anyone with the proper gear can listen in on. It's like yelling back and forth across a street at the top of your lungs, you have ZERO expectation of privacy unless you have shelled out the big bucks for a voice encryption system. I have an old Radio Shack scanner which has the capability to listen in on everything from CB radio up through various military bands, I used to do the Communications Intelligence (COMINT) and Communications Security (COMSEC) thing in the Navy. There is NOTHING illegal about it, but it WILL piss them off none the less.

[@mjburrage5263]

It would be perfectly safe to jump the gate if 1) you can see that the train is stopped or moving away, and 2) there is no oncoming traffic at the other gate. That just leaves your willingness to risk a ticket.

[@stevesmith4771]

Once the loco was in, there was really no need for the gates to still be down stopping traffic so kinda dont blame them. If the loco was coming out again quickly then it would have been different ...plenty of time to let traffic go by.

[@NUKE-W.E.F.]

I agree. You can’t use common sense any longer. Nowadays cops will write you up no matter what.

[@horacerider5559]

Single track, obviously a switching operation, no train horn; Yeah, I'd run it too.

[@bradmcewen]

Blameshifting occurs when a person makes assumptions to intent and picks out a target to somehow elevate their self esteem by attempting to devalue another's. Total fail lol. At least they can't swerve over to scare ya.

[@austinmiller3497]

What do I think about the gate runners jaw tooth I think it's very dangerous for people to be running through Crossings when a train is nearby and the gates are down they put themselves and their family at risk when they do that when I start driving I'm going to stop behind every Crossing and every crossing gate until that train has gotten out of the way it's also very illegal for people to run through Crossings I really think that they should have a police officer or State highway patrol officer at every railroad crossing throughout Ohio when trains are coming and are nearby

[@liam.m.f4593]

Person: AAAGHHH, THIS IS TAKING SO LONG Dog seeing a train for the first time: 🙂👌

[@joed5419]

They've stopped and checked to make sure the way is clear and it's safe to cross. Why should they sit and wait all day because the railroad is too damn cheap to install equipment that works properly?

[@donmelius9383]

They don't like it cause if they mess-up it's been recorded.

[@redwolfexr]

The reason the gate didn't release is that they were up the spur, and they didn't bother to put one there. But yes, the gate runners are normal. Especially when the locomotive is at a full stop. Because as happened there it had to go full forward, take a switch, and then back up, which makes for a long time at the crossing. At least that was a low volume crossing.

[@kben101]

Gate Runners:I don't care if the train is far back and not moving I'm doing the illegal move

[@JawTooth]

I see them so often that it almost seems normal. lol

[@kben101]

@@JawTooth so true

[@deepsleep7822]

With the lok at least 100 feet away from the road and not moving, I'd be tempted to go around as well. I don't condone what the drivers did but I don't condemn it either.

[@scottchilds978]

Jaw Tooth, you are a natural at this.....Keep rollin' son,lol

[@scottchilds978]

I think it"s more risky people climbing between railcars. I rode trains in my youth and had some misshapes doing this stunt

[@scottchilds978]

Guess those complainers are NOT true railfans ....lol!

[@JawTooth]

Thank you, I will!

[@JawTooth]

The good old days that we thought would never end. I miss my youth and the fun

[@scottchilds978]

@@JawTooth those years fly by too fast

[@Optopolis]

Crazy people. Looks to me like the last three cars (3:40) just played follow the leader jees.

[@georgeworley6927]

I love watching trains. My grandfather worked for the L&N Railroad. As child I got to ride on freight train from getting on the engine just before it entered the roundhouse til it got to a point 70 miles away where I could safety where I could safely get off and board another going back to where I came from. I had a ball doing it I didn't fear anything about it. Both engineers were friends. One was simi-family as he's was married to my aunt's husband sister. I got of the reason I am writing this. In my current town there is a rule passed by city 10 or more years ago that city streets could not be blocked more than 10 minutes. While that train when back in there the gate should have lifted to let cars go by until the train was ready to pull back over the roadway. Rev George Universalist

[@doublediamondrailroad5949]

She was more Congenial about it. He was overly Sensitive. You need a I’M A RAILFAN, NOT A TERRORIST TShirt.

[@louislokuta2463]

I've been through this as well. I even had the local FBI field office contact me once. As long as you're on a public sidewalk, you're fine. Ignore them. Next time they try to get your license plate, open your trunk and leave it open. The plate will be facing the sky and they won't be able to see it.

[@lrich8181]

Unless your plate is on the bumper!

[@pollyisagoodbird]

I've seen some crossings outfitted with gates and traffic lights, one near me was updated with these as well as a light-up sign as well. Obviously it's illegal to run a gate, especially in this situation, and those who do should be punished if possible If they wanted a traffic signal signal that could say "PROCEED WITH CAUTION" and flashing yellow lights when the crossing is clear before turning red when the train is ready to move again. Idk. People would still run the red light anyways, that's totally an Ohio thing lol

[@magicpencil6995]

Another great video - love local switching... maybe there's been a series of trainjackings in the area...🤣🤣

[@donavonrobbins1908]

When they have a crew on the ground that can protect the intersection when needed and they plan on tying the intersection up for a while, it shouldn't be a problem for the motorists to cross so long as they can do it safely and not bang in to each other or endanger the workers. You'll be hard pressed to find a cop that would be writing tickets there, or a judge that would uphold the charge if you did.

[@DistanceNsVeterans]

That cool Ns NS Sd40-2 even with the horn

[@JawTooth]

Thanks for watching

[@DistanceNsVeterans]

@@JawTooth no problem

[@robertborchert932]

Indeed! In person, the grumble of that diesel is pure music.

[@DistanceNsVeterans]

@@robertborchert932 mhm

[@jasonervoes1326]

I wish the police were there to catch those rude and impatient drivers. They'll change their tune very quickly well knowing them. Jawtooth you're not held responsible for whatever goes on in their lives. It's not your problem if they're having a bad day. It looks like they got up on the wrong side of the bed that morning. One of these dsys theur attitude problems will get them fired. Oh well they did it to themselves. You have nothing to feel guilty about.

[@Bravestar1217]

@JawTooth...its that wild bowlng shirt you got on, that would frighten any crew. Probably a railfan got out of hand. Remember not everyone is respectful of property/personnel.

[@dirkmontgomery5983]

Gate runners are dumb never go around gates you never know what might happen engine moves do to malfunction or a rail car moves you git clobbered not good stay safe behind the gates