Imperium of Man Reaction

[@WexMajor82]

"The emperor is not alive!" Yes, lord inquisitor; this heretic, right here.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇

[@tonyyul703]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames physically he's a fekking Rotting CORPSE... KILLED by is First born...... Horus! But being the most powerful human Psycher his Spirit being fed by others is Alive.... And can be heard by his Son's.... His Primarchs

[@animusnocturnus7131]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames "Innocence proves nothing."

[@CaptainPilipinas]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames not a lot of KZ, etc other else Lore videos from that channel of templin's Unfortunately. (by the way, try to do that said-KZ video kind of reaction next or something, I do not know?). they have poor versions of Destiny should-be-Lore-focused videos there. etc.

[@Azhan.J777]

@@animusnocturnus7131 damn😂😂

[@GaldirEonai]

The "best" part about Horus ruining everything is that at the very end, _he realized it._ His patrons finally stopped deceiving him and for one brief moment he saw exactly, in perfect detail, how badly he'd fucked everything up. He didn't take it well :P.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 can imagine that would suck 😛

[@ianbruce1745]

Warhammer 40k is the only universe where the fans don't want to be in it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We believe it 😧

[@DrNox-wo4pd]

I want

[@ianbruce1745]

@@DrNox-wo4pd mmk

[@Yeeren]

Dark Souls fans would like to have a word with you...

[@ianbruce1745]

@@Yeeren That is also true 🤣🤣 you're correct sir

[@lockretvids]

"We still don't know shit about Mars" To be fair, Mars was also a major battleground during the Horus Heresy. Imagine a gigantic library which has burned down but much of it has been scavenged. Then, not only was the library burnt down *again*, the mechanisms inside are actively trying to murder you (if you're lucky). As for hope, think about it this way: the administratum worker doesn't care if you live or die. Your commisar doesn't care if you live or die. Actually, scratch that, the commisar will shoot you if you're not willing to climb over that trench. But do you know who cares? Your comrade right next to you. Your loved ones back at home. That little girl who just randomly ran up to your unit and hugged your leg, thanking you for your service. You're not in this for yourself. You're not in this for the Imperium. Do you know why you're in this? For them. Because if you fail, who's going to protect them? Are you ready to climb over that trench now, guardsmen?

[@LHKcode13]

Imperial propaganda xD

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

"Feelings? Morales? We want you to fight and die like a little bitch, and that's the way it should be after billion years of existing." - ICOG from Xeelee Sequence, probably.

[@olafcorsson3898]

Yoo Vulkan! We've been looking for you bro

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Great speech 😊

[@Shifty51991]

Well we do know there is a void dragon sealed in the core of it lol....

[@TheDonmayo]

As a Tyranid player I like humans too... as a food resource.

[@mrcactuar8515]

As an Ork player, i like both humans and tyranids... because WAAAGH!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@FloeticsPH]

We hangry

[@tonyyul703]

*FEKKING* ROTTING XENOS

[@justcaino9176]

so....are we like.... tasty? how many hive stars do we get? lolz

[@terrenal2092]

to quote a space marine librarian "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." and "There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt."

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Good quotes to get people in line for imperium 😇

[@terrenal2092]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames the first one is a Latin proverb from what I've checked and the second one makes a lot of sense In Warhammer 40k considering every faction is out for themselves

[@Shiftry87]

Was that taken from the Dawn Of War games. The Librarian in Soulstorm says that.

[@terrenal2092]

@@Shiftry87 yep

[@astro6009]

@@Shiftry87 Pretty sure he says it as far back as the original Dawn of War.

[@ivpiv5933]

"The Emperor is not alive!" That sounds like something chaos would say HERESY!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇😈

[@-JustHuman-]

"That sounds a lot like heresy, I'll go fill up the flamer..............the Heavy Flamer"

[@House-of-Hades]

Exterminatus

[@ssilmath]

"If there's truly no hope, why live?" Spite, pure and simple. One analogy I've heard for the setting is that the Imperium is a man hanging off of a cliff while the other factions stand by and watch. The man could use his energy to hang on tighter and perhaps even save himself, but he's too concerned with giving everybody else the finger to do so. Also, there is certainly hope, and even a god of hope (Tzeentch), and they're evil.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Fair enough 🙃

[@CorenusYT]

The universe as a all seems hopeless, but sparks of hope are shining in some places. Each one with a vision for a final outcome on darkness. Inquisition embodies well the nihilism part of the Imperium. They are depressed by constant horror and course for pure survival at all costs. By they are only a part of the universe. Some forces are fighting for other causes, like the love of family left behind. They are in fact some of the rebellous forces in the Imperium. Not all rebellion are the work of Chaos or Genestealers, but just people sick of any cruel regime, and wish to live their own way. The deep nature of the universe is not friendly to hope, but it can not firmly kill it. Hope is perhaps not enough to save the galaxy, but at least some people. This with love for cheerished ones are enough to keep trying to fix things... Then the Imperium / Chaos / Orks / Necrons / Taus / Aeldari / Drukarhi / Tyranids come(s). They screw everythings up. But still, hope remains...

[@Ryan--G]

Yeah, Bricky's series is probably the easiest (and entertaining) to absorb. Definitely worth checking out if you guys have the time (or willpower) :D

[@The_Lurker]

They're the adeptus ridiculous not the adeptus accuratus

[@Ryan--G]

@@The_Lurker Yeah, I'll let him off with some inaccuracies, there is a lot of stuff to cover. He gets the general idea out there, and it's not a slog to get through.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Time is the more rare currency these days for us. But we will find it eventually. We just don’t want the Bricky vids to be too spread out so figuring out a way to watch em and work then into schedule 😊😇🥳

[@Ryan--G]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Totally understandable! 😊

[@cyclone8974]

He's fine if you like warhammer from a meme perspective.

[@tailssonicteam1604]

"I like humans" The Emperor approves

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@skebaba918]

Well I hate humans, as they ruined Big E's goals, by becoming religious nutjobs when he wanted to make a SECULAR Empire

[@sovietunion6598]

@@skebaba918 is that heresy I hear

[@JakeBaldwin1]

@@skebaba918 Maybe the emperor should have read "how to parent for dummies."

[@skebaba918]

@@JakeBaldwin1 TBF Big E assumed his kids would be as big brain as he is. It was the first time he did it after all, and he'd gotten used to the mentality of big brain for the tens of thousands of years he's been alive (born in like 8000 BCE, in Anatolia (modern Turkey region)), so it's not like he'd be the biggest knower of how lesser intelligence people behave.

[@famillebeaulieu-luangkham2923]

"Space Nazis ? How could we EVER make them appear as the good guys ???" Answer : "By comparison" ... The grim dark future of Warhammer 40k seems to portray humans as terrible beings, but this dystopia is sooo hard that every single other faction tries litterally to wipe us all of existence. No democratic regime would be efficient or authoritarian enough to defend Humanity against the terrible things it's facing. Think about Tyranids, devouring everything in their path, leaving only sterile spheres in their way ; think about Ork warbands, multyplying like rabbits and genetically programmed to love war and destruction : they will not stop destroying things untill there's nothing else to destroy ; think about the Chaos Gods, who, in 40K are not just superstitions : these gods DO exist and they have considerable power over any sentient being : no species is immune to their temptations.... And soo many other threats I didn't even mention ! When you think about all this, you come to the horrible conclusion that Humanity has absolutely no choice : if the survival wars that the Imperium fights on all corners of the galaxy were submitted to a vote, if every inhabitant of a planet not directly concerned with these "distant events", or if any person who never truly witnessed the horrors of this Galaxy thought that they are wildly exagerated by government propaganda, or completely fake, and thus would never agree to conscription or war untill their own world is directly threatened (and by then it is faaaar too late !), then there would simply be no Humanity left in this Universe. The thing is : every guardsman/guardswoman fights for their loved ones. Every soldier in the Imperium fights for Humanity because they are brought to the dark reality of this "spitefull Universe" firsthand : they see things that 99,9% of imperial citizen will never see in their lifetime, and they deeply understand the profound meaning of what they are doing, and why. This is why even "simple" guardsmen are heroic in this Universe ; this is why no Starwars stormtrooper would stand a chance against a WH40K guardsman, with or without armour : the Universe that forged the mind and will of any Imperial Guard is faaaar worse than the "light" dictatorship of the Emperor in StarWars. In 40K, an event like Alderaan's destruction is another tuesday morning, before lunchtime. I'll recommend you to read some books in th "Gaunt's Ghosts" series : it focuses around standard guardsmen and it depicts really well their thoughts, mindset etc. And you'll see that everything they do is for Humanity. They are protectors, even when they are as***les ;) And by the way : the original plan of the Emperor was to banish superstition and religious zeal from Humanity, to stave off the Dark Gods, because he knew that they feed on human emotions and fears and that the less you have a religious or superstitious mindset, the less you try to pray to higher powers to obtain what you want in life. In 40K Gods exist, but they are all variations of Satan. After the Horus Heresy (the civil war that brought everything down), the Emperor was considered a God because more and more people came to know that Gods were real, and they were not our friends, so they made their own God, a God who would be on their side. And this is so profoundly human ;)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for all this info and helping answer our questions and reading suggestions 😃 Also it is definitely sad irony Emperor ultimately became that which he wanted to end 😢

[@famillebeaulieu-luangkham2923]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Thanks for your answer ! :) And yes, The 41st millenium is a dark place to be... During the Horus Heresy, many people with a rational mindset aligned with the traitors because they came to criticise the acts of the Emperor as WE would have done it. The thing is : this Universe is irrationnal in so many ways that a rational mind is an easy prey for devious thoughts. "Blessed is the mind too narrow to feel doubt". The Emperor is th most powerfull psyker in the Galaxy, but in WH40K, the future is not unique, it is an endless mesh of interconnected ways, dead-ends and possibilities. As powerfull as He is, He cannot see every single path, even some that might seem "obvious". But one thing He saw was that Humanity could only survive in the long run under the form of a galaxy-wide empire. Any lesser domain would not survive. Another thing He saw was the rising of the Ruinous Powers, which led Him to the foresight that the action window for building this empire was very narrow. Things HAD to go fast and strong, so sacrifices on the scale of genocides were made so that Humanity as a whole would have the slightest chance of survival. The Emperor fights for Humanity, not for humans, important distinction ;) if he fought for humans, Humanity would be long dead by now ! Another thing you should know about the Emperor : He loved Terra (Earth), and after His total victory over all other warring lords and techno-barbarians, He supervised planet-wide reconstruction of the ecosystem. He was resurrecting the great oceans, long evaporated through atomic warfare, rationalised the cities to make them places of knowledge and enlightenment without devouring the surrounding forests and ecosystems He was reviving all over the planet while no other warlord cared about. He wanted to give back to Humanity the golden craddle in which it was born. The Terra of the 41st millenium is a corrupted hive of crawling humans with no resources left whatsoever : every single piece of food is either synthetic or imported from other planets. It is as far away as it could be from the original dream of the Emperor ;) If you want to know more about the Emperor : kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXvdc4yolsaVm8U&index Cheers !! ;)

[@GT-dv8gh]

I apologize in advance for the length of this reply. Lol To be *completely* fair, humanity didn't really "choose" its current circumstances. The terribleness of the Imperium makes a lot more sense in context. Humanity *had* its Star Trek-style "Golden Age" (roughly 10k to 20kish), where technology and progress made the human experience a veritable utopia. Unfortunately, it fell apart... *HARD*. First, almost literally every alien race humanity ran into turned out to be (and continue to be) giant dickheads, primarily interested in eating, enslaving, or otherwise wiping us out. After a while, xenophobia kind of became the reflexive norm. Second, the super intelligent computers and armies of robotic warriors that made our golden age possible turned on humanity, causing a war far more destructive than anything in even 40k. This is why 40k humanity tends to be so distrustful of advanced technology, and computers in particular. To be frank, they're not wrong to do so, Artificial Intelligence in the 40k universe is more dangerous than in most SciFi. Not only do the bots often have the classic "destroy all humans" mindset, but they are uniquely vulnerable to corruption and possession by demonic warp entities (due to lacking the natural defenses most living beings possess against demonic influence, I think?). Third, the demonic infestation/pollution in the Warp became progressively more and more dangerous as time went on, and as humanity's own psychic potential grew. In 40k something like the Exorcist would be almost cute. A single psychic, or cult, under demonic influence can easily open a Warp portal capable of flooding entire *planets* with an endless horde of ravening horrors. This is why "heresy" is taken so seriously. As if that weren't bad enough, (thanks to the psychotic culture of the Eldar birthing Slaneesh, a new Chaos God of depravity and excess) the festering in the Warp eventually became so great that it was able to spill into real space without even that pre-condition. This resulted in the tearing open of the "Eye of Terror" (an area of space thousands of lightyears across where Hell literally exists in the real world), and the breaking out of warp storms across the galaxy, making it impossible to travel between different star systems for several thousand years. This was the final nail in the coffin for humanity's Star Trek-style "Golden Age," and brought about the almost complete collapse of human interstellar society. Human space for thousands of years after that was basically an interstellar version of "Mad Max." Most high technology was completely forgotten apart from a few relics being held together with bubble gum and duct tape, and savage warlords and psychic sorcerers in league with the demonic terrorized everyone and everything. Where human tyrants, mutants, and monsters didn't do so, aliens did. Even a lot of the tech that was saved during this period wasn't fully understood (cars or gasoline in Mad Max would be a good comparison here)... Leading to the tech that survived often being worshipped as a god in and of itself, most notably by groups like the Mechanicus on Mars. The Emperor fixed this... Somewhat. To be clear, the Emperor isn't a regular man. He's humanity's immortal guardian; basically a minor Warp god. He was created by the psychic Shamans who ruled humanity in pre-history committing mass ritual suicide to merge all of their souls and powers into one entity, because they *SAW* what was coming, and knew humanity would need a protector. The Emperor has been around ever since, watching and guiding humanity from the shadows. When interstellar society fell, he decided to cut the subtlety and take over outright. First taking Earth, and then spreading outwards from there. Even then, however, it was like putting a puzzle back together... After it had been left to bleach in the sun for a few months, half of it had been set on fire, and with about a third of the pieces missing. You can only really expect so much when trying to bootstrap MadMax style barbarians back into the space age. But still... It was a start, and "Big E" had plans in motion to both kickstart human progress, and curb the power of the Warp in human affairs. Until... Of course, the demonic Chaos Gods in the Warp decided humanity was getting too uppity, demonically possessed the Emperor's favorite general/son, and caused the Horus Heresy. The Emperor won, but was put on permanent life support in the process, which completely derailed his longterm recovery plan for humanity. In his absence, the uplifted MadMax barbarians took over government... Which worked out about as well as can be expected. Especially so given the fact that the Imperium the Emperor built has effectively been under siege, both from within, by demonic influenced heretics and more conventional rebels, and without, by genocidal aliens like the Orks and Tyranids, ever since. Civilization has never really been given the chance to "catch its breath," so to speak, and finish trying to put the proverbial puzzle that was pre-collapse society back together. The best most can hope for now is to simply survive, which is a lot easier banding together than hanging apart, no matter how terrible one's government happens to be. Survive, and pray that the Emperor manages to eventually pull a miracle out of his hat. Which he very well might. Fun fact: Given how the Warp tends to work, all the trillions of people worshipping the Emperor as a god might have very well made him *into* a god, possibly capable of even fighting the Chaos Gods on their own terms. This might have even been his plan all along. Time will tell! The Emperor Protects.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Whoa thanks for all this info and helping answer our big Hope questions 😃🤩

[@GT-dv8gh]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Not a problem!

[@vz4579]

This was an excellent read‼️ incredibly easy to visualize such a complex subject.

[@maxhax367]

@@GT-dv8gh Tiny correction. AI stands for Abominable intelligence not artificial =)

[@0815UserII]

Was the whole Shaman stuff brought up in recent times? I don't remember reading anything that contradicts that part, which could very well be the origin of human Perpetuals in general (Big E isn't the only immortal human around, and apart from not dying from old age or the likes, they basically have a respawn mechanic and return from basically everything physical, I think including being reduced to atoms, though I'd have to reread the specific instances we've seen in the novels). Either way, the newer books revealed quite a lot about big E, and hinted at quite a lot more. Most notably how broken he is by his precognitive powers and how badly it interferes with his plans actually having the intended results. He used to be sort of a leader figure among the Perpetuals (it's heavily implied if not outright stated that a lot of our Mythology is based on him and the other Perpetuals), knew really early on just how dangerous Chaos was and had plans to endure it wouldn't ruin humanity. Unfortunately, he developed a nasty mix of distrust even towards his closest allies and a habit of wanting his cake and eating it too. He'd attack and stop dangerous cults, but instead of destroying their library to ensure their chaos corrupted knowledge wouldn't create the next cult (like everybody around him had agreed to do), he'd sack it for himself, to incorporate it into his plans (thinking he'd be able to use t safely). That obviously caused everyone around him to distrust and finally leave him, forcing him to downgrade his plans. Just as an example, the Great Crusade seems to have been planned early on in one form or another, but initially he wanted the other Perpetuals to lead the armies as his near-equals. Only after most of them left him, he had to resort to the Primarch program (which went horribly wrong too, as we all know). And even then, he didn't tell them the truth about his plans, which was a big contribution towards the Horus Heresy. He declared Horus as the warmaster and returned to Terra to work on the next stage, causing the Primarchs to understandably feel betrayed by him. By the end, even the Loyalist Primarchs like the Khan only stuck around because his bad plan was still better than allowing the by then irredeemably insane traitors to take control.

[@martinmcfuga842]

The thing is the Emperor IS alive, as that is the entire function of the Golden Throne, and his re-awakened son Guiliman spoke with him ,but it is speculated that the Emperor spends most of his psychic will playing the Great Game with Chaos in order to thwart them.

[@aregulargamer1]

That, and keeping a giant warp-rift under the golden throne closed against the infinitely large daemon army trying to tear their way through. If the Emperor dies, Terra becomes a second eye of terror. Just like that. Not good.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Hmm. Interesting 🤔

[@imcallingjapan2178]

So the light of the Astronomican doesn't exist anymore in current fluff?

[@aregulargamer1]

@@imcallingjapan2178 No, it still does. The Emperor projects it. Its just that Terra sits on the entrance to the Emperor's human webway project, which is currently drowning in Daemons. Custodes, Titans, and Sisters of Silence have been fighting them back for 10k years, while the Emperor has held the breach as shut as it could be. If he dies or the throne fails, Terra instantly drowns in daemons and becomes a second eye of terror.

[@Menhtrol]

When you are talking about the ''Great Game'' i dearly hope your talking about Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker 😆

[@chaoswordbearer]

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment " warhammer 40k quote

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😢 we are gonna be disappointed then 🤗

[@KnightofEkron]

This is why Nurgle was right.

[@BigM33100]

I think you'd like the Templin Institute's video on The Fall of Cadia, one of the most noteworthy events and a critical story for the Imperium and Chaos.

[@falgarshame8473]

Cadia Stands, you stupid heretic

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will check it out 😃😅

[@H2OHydraulic]

Cadia...? Oh God _(emperor)_ *_starts sobbing uncontrollably_*

[@domtoretto1677]

Now say it with me : The-

[@BigM33100]

@@domtoretto1677 -planet-

[@anubisshadowreaper8808]

Hey guys if you want to learn about all the warhammer factions I recommend watching a youtuber named bricky its a 2 part video and he's hilarious

[@andrewholmes5924]

I was just about to recommend that lol

[@kennethv5250]

ive put links up numerous times. they tell me that theyre going to watch Bricky vids but theyve been telling me that for the last 3 months. so i wouldnt hold my breath. post the links on every vid they do, maybe someday theyll actually do it

[@sunghj11]

@@kennethv5250 From what I've been seeing is that they eventually react to most videos people ask for. There's only so many videos they can go through with the schedule they set out. Just be patient and eventually they'll react to it. I actually prefer them learning the basics before watching Bricky's videos since he glosses over a lot of stuff without explanation.

[@tailssonicteam1604]

Seconded

[@tailssonicteam1604]

@@kennethv5250 bare in mind bricky's videos are 50+ minutes long each so it would take a long time to film and edit the videos. So be patient and eventually they'll upload them

[@kelvinbill]

"The Emperor is not alive! Is he?" "Sort of." I think she gets it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@ac4th371]

Luetin09 is without question THE BEST Warhammer 40k Lore guy. No one comes close to his level of knowledge and detail and he speaks Clearly too.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We enjoyed our first video from him 😃

[@lalalala666]

You forgot Majorkill, baby =)))

[@steelbear2063]

@@lalalala666 Well first he does not speak clearly, second screw him in general

[@tailssonicteam1604]

@@lalalala666 ahh I see you are a man of culture as well

[@warangelthelight2077]

​@@steelbear2063 facts over meme

[@TheKingOfBears.]

Boy oh boy am I happy to see Warhammer.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😁🥳😈

[@Knightlight-kw9sh]

Bricky's video on "Every Warhammer faction explained" is great. He's funny and informative

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will check his stuff our for sure 😇🤗

[@pokeczarelf]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames YES!

[@sunghj11]

There are "paradise" worlds where people live great lives! Also the age when the Emperor was alive was truly great for the humans. They lived better lives than now and were not threatened of extinction as they are now. Now that the Emperor is lost and 1/2 of their forces turned traitor, instead of falling to despair, they made the Emperor into a "god" to bring some hope. In the long run, humanity's hope is for the Emperor to resurrect and save them from the situation they are in right now. People are actively looking for ways to bring him back. The reason why humans seem so extreme is because they need to in order to fight off the horrible aliens and demons that are attacking them. They can't afford to be nice when galaxy eating gods and other terrible entities are present and have set their eyes on humanity. Believe me, there are definitely worse ways to live than what you saw in the video. Souls being tortured by the Chaos gods, Dark Eldar making you a slave for thousands of years while keeping you on the brink of death the entire time, etc. :)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

So this video was actually an optimistic view on the 40k world 😂😈

[@TomorrowWeLive]

'Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.' is a classic 40k 'motivational' saying.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Makes sense 😨

[@RustyARMPIT12]

if youre into watching more of the Templin Institutes Warhammer videos i cant recommend their "Cadia" video enough, you dont need much knowledge of the wider lore to understand it and it is one of the greatest lore moments in the entire setting of 40k. "CADIA STANDS!" "The planet broke before the guard did!"

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Cadia seems to be most recommended vid from them right now 😃

[@Mugthraka]

Warhammer 40k might be Dark and Grim, and depressing. But that makes all the Victories, the Heartfelt moments even more enjoyable. It is in the Darkest Nigths, that the Light shines the Brightest. 40k is a fascinating setting to get lost in, where everything is upscaled to 11 and even beyond.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

The first two sentences hit well 😊

[@andrewames247]

The Planet Broke before the Guard! CADIA STANDS!

[@cyberash3000]

orks are insanely happy orks love life, and they love to fight they are the happiest faction

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Which is why we are team Ork 🥳

[@mwpretorius7913]

Of all the introductory 40k videos I've seen Bricky's is the best, the first part is just about the emperium of man and the second is all about he other races.(honestly cannot recommend it enough) If I had to choose a faction to live in, it would probably be the Tao. They seem the most morally good, but they are super small in numbers compared to any other faction except maybe the Eldar.

[@troller8680]

Are they good though? I heard that Etherial cast is basically brainwashing others under them.

[@mwpretorius7913]

@@troller8680 Yea I heard something like that too and that they lower the other races's population over time, but compared to the other factions they are the "least evil" I should say.

[@troller8680]

@@mwpretorius7913 yeah but Tau is young, and only at the start of their path. Humankind too have been benelovent and highly advanced, but things have changed. Tau already is race with massive propaganda and brainwashing, plus those who do not accept their Greater Good are slowly removed through sterilisation, so not so perfect. And what they become later if they survive post Kadia shitstorm?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We are still team Ork although the Tao did appeal to us a bit from Luetin09s vid 😊

[@mwpretorius7913]

@@troller8680 Yea i guess it all comes down to what brand of evil you like. When it comes down to it i like the Tau for the mechas and cool suits😂. Ime not a table top player myself just a lore enjoyer.

[@calvinheslop2585]

You guys "oooh look at the cherobs(is that the right spelling for the little angel babies ?) Me:" oh god they don't know they are actually labotamized human babies that now fly around giving people ammo and sprinkle holy water everywhere."

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😧 holy crap! 😂 Nothing is nice in this world

[@nikypercea]

not human babies, man made clones ... they actually come with slots for the future upgrades like wings and such, also they have limited intelligence, akin to dog more than human.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Even before the Emporer of mankind and his imperium of man, the isolated human colonies shunned the technological advancement because of their own AI machines called the "men of Iron" rebelled.

[@ragnarososo]

i am fan of Warhammer 40 000 atleast 20 years now, aways happy to see more people learn about it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

It’s a crazy world to dive into but so much to explore 🤩

[@KYZA619]

"Helsreach" is a great starter YT series for new 40k fans. Fan made and based on the book of the same name.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

On our 40k list to check out 🥳

[@cyclone8974]

Well the animation is fan made but the audio is ripped from a Black Library audio book

[@bhurzumii4315]

I'm itching to watch their reaction to Helsreach. I check YT daily for their first episode!

[@keithbuchanan9282]

Fun reaction. Face expression are appropriate for what 40k is. The Cadia video by the templin institute is excellent. It tells an easy to understand fantastic story of Cadia, which was referenced in this video. Highly recommend you check that out since the overarching faction videos are overwhelming. Also as mentioned everywhere. Bricky…

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Bricky and Cadia both on our list to check out 😃

[@johntaylor7029]

Another great KZbinr to watch to learn about 40k is Baldermort, he does self written narratives to help explain lore concepts. Guy has an insanely cool voice, and tells good stories, worth a listen

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟 We plan on checking some of his stuff out

[@Feanor2024]

Yes! Baldermort is the best!

[@robertbuckey6517]

Since you guys keep bringing up hopelessness in this setting, I highly recommend the Helsreach movie. You can watch it in individual episodes. It actually is very much about hope, the hope of the common man fighting against an alien threat. Even though it is written from an Astartes perspective, hope is very much a theme, along with the main character's struggle with loss of it. It's a very deep story.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for rec. that is one we wanted to check out for sure but didn’t realize it had a little optimism in it 😊

[@seanwalters1977]

40k is one of those universes where its own fans would never want to live or be a part of it lol

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 we can see why

[@starshifter]

Hope = playing Orks. May as well be happy fighting in this grim dark future.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We agree with this statement 😁😈

[@Anonymousevilmaster]

40k humanity keeps fighting in large part because, while they are broken in some ways, they are not done. They've survived existential threats multiple times and still survive as a species, and so they keep fighting for the right to exist. I'd like to quote something from the Destiny game series that I feel fits in fairly well with humanity in the 40k universe. It's not an exact quote as I removed some lines to make it fit a bit better. Again, this quote is not from Warhammer 40k, but I think some of it can be used to describe humanity and the existence of hope in the 40k universe. " _I knew a man once. Some claim he was a monster, and I agreed for a very long time. This man, clad in black and misshapen by the weight of his sins, professed to wield hope as a weapon, to offer it as a crutch, a beacon he saw as false promise. "Nothing dies like hope," he'd say. And was right. The loss of hope stings like no other. But he knew something else-a truth he would not share, a truth muddied by his words and deeds and the grim menace of his presence. And that truth?_ _Hope is eternal._ _It may fade. It may get lost in the pain and suffering of existence. But it's always there. Somewhere. Hidden maybe, in plain sight or far from view._ _When you are at your lowest. When hope has faded and you're all alone-in the world, inside your head. When the odds are stacked and despair has taken hold. Remember your fire. It's always there. Once sparked, once the anger-once fear-has lit the fuse, the flame will remain, always-a beacon signaling to eternity that you are here and you will stand, no matter the obstacle. And, in the end, if you so choose, it won't be whispers and shadows that save you-that corruption seeks only to abuse. No-_ _It will be your first loud words, and your enemies' last._ " Each human in the Imperium has a duty; to themselves, to each other and to the Emperor. The duty to never give up. And only in death does duty end. Here's where I got that quote from: www.destinypedia.com/Lore:Letters_from_a_Renegade

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for sharing that quote! 😃 Destiny franchise is one we plan on covering in future 😎

[@KnightofEkron]

I hope the xenos eradicate humanity and put it out of it's misery, for the good of all.

[@Fissiccisst1]

One of my favorite Templin videos on 40k is the one specifically about the Imperial Guard. I get chills every time. Definitely worth checking out!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will make sure it’s on our 40k list to watch 😃

[@TheVleckChannel]

6:29 "That looks like a shitty job" To be fair, that looks like me on a Friday after a week in one of those bloody 'ergonomic' office chairs.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 sorry to hear. Feel the pain after my two hour commute to work 🤗

[@TheOffkilter]

Love the Emperor, for He is the salvation of Mankind Obey His words, for they will lead you into the light of the future Honor His servants for they speak in His voice Tremble before His majesty, for we all walk in His immortal shadow.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Someones been drinking the emperors koolaid 😜😇

[@TheOffkilter]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Heresy! The Emperor only serves the finest of wines and bourbons at his psyker dinner parties! Although they do give you a Ork sized hangover..

[@Skijvn]

This channel was suggested to me because I'm a 40k fan. After watching several videos I scrolled through the comments today. You've gained my subscription because you've answered every single comment. Keep it up, and keep growing.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Interacting with community is half the fun! And some people take a lot of time to talk about 40k in comments and try to educate us or discuss with us so it would be a shame if we didn’t read as many comments as we could. Welcome! 🥳🥳🥳🍾🥂🤗

[@sepehrpooladi4418]

there is a video called the last church by luetin... amazing video to get a picture on the history of universe... its also a small and very facenating story... and his voice is very pleasing xd

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We enjoyed what we’ve seen from Luetin09 so will add this to our 40k list 😁

[@sepehrpooladi4418]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames i checked the video is claled emperor of man part 3 and its a very long video but its choped to 6 or 7 part and first part is called the last priest... great videos bt

[@Saintjav2]

To know more about The Emperor, the Templin institute have a video about Him too, made in similar way to this one, and serves as a great introduction for people discovering WH40K. Also Bricky videos lmao

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Who is this Bricky you speak of 😜😁🤗

[@Frigadingo]

I'm just going to throw in "Death of Hope" as a suggestion.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

On our list to check out. But Bethany’s hope will never die 😂

[@vladimirpootis3200]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Hope is the first step on a road to disappointment. - Space Marine Librarian -

[@SylvesterStaline.]

Millions of guardsman? More like hundreds of billions..

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯🤯

[@nikot.9920]

I dont know how I missed this, but Brickys series will fill in the gaps for you guys. As a space wolf, trust me when I tell ye that we aint the worst thing in 40k *cough drukhari*

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Bricky is on our list to check out for sure 😁

[@StyxRiverGynoid]

Vlka Fenrika bringing the truth hammer down on the universe once more :)

[@gahlainrigh5927]

"It's the future. I'm sure they've thought of some pretty awful torture." Cough... you ever heard of a servitor?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We have recently and 😱

[@fufucarlos]

Been waiting for this one for awhile.. every video on their channel is worth watching... the best made lore channel I have found.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Their vids are high quality for sure 😃

[@aennaenn7468]

Yeah no, other fandoms answer the question "if you could live in your chosen fictional universe, would you?" Differently than 40k fans.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@dymethyl5676]

As long as there is a soldier holding his rifle to stand, once more, against the darkness, there will be hope. The Emperor protects

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟😇

[@sisyphean_myth7696]

In fairness, not all parts of the Imperium are awful, you can get some R&R on a cardinal world, or a garden world where it's all paradise and recreation. But that's the slightly more secure inner parts of the imperium. Plus they could still get attacked or spawn some daemonic cult that causes an chaos invasion, it's not like they're immune to the threats.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@SwedetasticGames]

"Why would I care about defending it!?" Because it is that, or all-out extinction. It is that grim.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😱

[@Jokesnipah]

""Odin only had 9 realms" got me good brotha, I was mid bite of pizza and had to giggle

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂😁

[@JarethLP]

I really appreciate how authentic you both are. I can tell from your facial expressions that you can empathize extremely well with what you see. I like that :). I hope my English was understandable : /. Love and Greetings from Germany :)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

dein englisch war sehr gut. Danke schön! Und wir freuen uns, dass dir das Video gefallen hat. Best German we could do with Google translate 🥰🤗🥳

[@guvnahgaming6534]

So there was a rather interesting conversation towards the end of this video about hope in the 40K universe and I'd love to throw my 2 cents in here! 😁 So, I think its worth remembering that this grim, horrible repressive Empire is all that humanity has known in this universe for 25,000 years of this history. WE know as an audience that it's all bad because we live in a world of freedoms! For the citizens of the Empire, all of this is just Tuesday 😂 Hope has become faith and while WE recognise that it's a twisted repressive nightmare of a religion that was never meant to be, for the Imperium it is a form of hope. Hope that the Emperor in all his power will see us through the darkness. That his Astartes, his "Angels" will protect us. It's an insane amount of indoctrination sure, but its also coupled with sheer survival instinct! Humanity is under constant threat. The Xenos is a dangerous foe. The Dark Gods of Chaos are constantly conspiring. So as horrifying as it is, the Imperial system of religious zeal and militant pseudo-fascism has become the best chance we have to endure as a species in the fictional 41st millennium. I hate every word of that sentence because of my own personal perspective, created by the world we live in. But as we all know, in the grim dark future, there is only war 😂 Keep up the great work guys! Awesome content! 👌

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks so much for joining in on our conversation about hope in the 40k universe! Or lack of hope as it were 😂😁🤗😊

[@locutus9956]

"The Emperors not alive!"

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇 🙏

[@baneh1329]

Watching people get into this is so interesting

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

It’s a fascinating world even if it’s grim dark and hopeless 🤩

[@glennbob5093]

If you want to know about Horus, there is a 55+ book series to learn about him. There is hope in 40k. The Emperor protects you know.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

That’s a lot of books on Horus 😯

[@thexlonewolf671]

Eh, Templin Institute! Right up there with you guys! Would love to watch you react to the cutscenes for Halo: Reach, it's the prequel to the main Halo trilogy.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We may end up playing Reach on channel as our first Halo couch coop vid 😇

[@williamthehammer1]

"The Emperor's not alive!" Smells like *HERESY* in here my friend...

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇

[@Salmagros]

Or there are hopes in the 40k world alright. Ladies And Gentlement, I present to you Tzeentch - The Chaos God of Hope and Change. Welcome to Warhammer, where even hope is twisted enough to lead you to damnation. A charming place, really.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 😈😇

[@talosvalcoran7001]

Blood for the blood god Skulls for the skull throne Let’s the galaxy burn 🔥

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😈

[@Contemo]

I can't remember where I read it, but something like 500 space marines would be able to conquer current day earth. They're that OP

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯🤯

[@kennethv5250]

i read in one book that one marine was enough to conquer an entire world. i kinda doubt that but eh maybe...

[@JABelms]

@@kennethv5250 Maybe a basic agri world with a primitive PDF. An lone SM can never beat a standard PDF in a civilized world

[@musafawundu6718]

Medusa is the homeworks of the Iron Hands Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines.

[@kennethv5250]

Brickys factions explained part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnSqfIOInq-jbpY and part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2fNn6aObJyHebc

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Gonna check it out eventually 😇🤗

[@mateotoledo2707]

"Hope is a gift" in anyother univers yes in this particular one nop "Hope is the first step in the road of deception"

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will still search for some hope 😂😇

[@thelastroman3177]

Please react to Cadia by the Templin Institute!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Added to our 40k list 😎🤟

[@feralprocessor9853]

3:45 There is hope for everyone and every idealogical cause. It's just that it's at war with itself.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Fair enough 🙃

[@katatiko]

Omg yes! If you're going to watch more WH40k videos please check Bricky's videos about the factions.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍😁

[@adeptlupatus4946]

The planet broke before the guard! For the Imperium! FOR THE EMPEROR!

[@adeptlupatus4946]

Oh yah, BLAME LORGAR!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😇😎🤟

[@synpapy8906]

YES I NEED MORE MORE WH40k !!!!!!!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🥳🥳🥳

[@Karathos]

12:08 when Tython (the planet) is shown and she says "That's pretty" and you already know what that cinematic is about... oh dear :D

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@Tazkar]

Yes the Imperium is not a great place to live. The Emperor had some good goals, he was actually trying to bring about more knowledge and reasoning. He was also trying to get rid of religion, so he'd be rolling in his golden throne knowing that the entire imperium was now worshipping him as a God. Also, you are raised in the Imperium with lines of thinking along this, well unless you become a heretic, "It is better to die for the Emperor than to live for oneself!" But yeah, lots of corruption within the imperium machine. You guys should watch the Total War: Warhammer 3 Cinematics, especially the latest one 'The Dawn of Grand Cathay' Which revealed Cathay for the first time ever(Previously had only been heard about in lore snippets). Though the Total War; Warhammer is based on Warhammer Fantasy and not Warhammer 40k, but both have similarities.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We definitely want to get to the fantasy side. 😅

[@Tearithin77]

For warhammer content try checking Baldermorts channel, specifically his power armor lore video as an intro to the man himself then his double entry on Rogal Dorn.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Have heard Baldermort is a great source of info 😃

[@Potato96780]

Sadly the imperium has a semi good reason for being so cruel

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Being the lesser evil in some sense 🙃

[@Nimbasa180]

"the emperor is not alive!" How.. DARE YOU. Only in death does duty end.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😇😁

[@yesnews2004]

Amo sus videos, no tengo idea de porque si no entiendo inglés jajajaja saludos desde Colombia

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🥳🥳🥂🍾

[@furgace2229]

I just wanted to say you two doing great job in the channel i really love your reactions ^^ keep up to good work!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks so much! 🥰😊🤗🥳

[@DarkHvH2]

Love your videos

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🥰🤗🥳😊

[@martinkase5842]

To quote Sean Lock (UK comedian). "I'm not a murderer, all my friends are alive."

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@Theking-sk1bz]

You guys should definitely watch the 4 original RWBY trailers the order is Red White Black then Yellow I won't say anything else to spoil it but they are an amazing watch also love the vid im so happy you guys are liking Warhammer 40K😁

[@chasewade6563]

Would love this

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Have it on our list to check out at some point 😁

[@Theking-sk1bz]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames wow you guys are amazing never has any other KZbin channel actually responded to me before thank you so much😁

[@RobouteGuilliman-M41]

1: Hope is not good. There is no "hope" in the 41st Millennium. People live, because most don't have it in them to just commit suicide. 2: Horus was wronged. 3: The Emperor never ushered in a "golden age", except for himself. He's responsible for more murders than the Earth has a population, and with few exceptions, ALL HUMANS ARE SLAVES. If you die, as a previous video you watched stated: "you will not be missed".

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😢

[@The_Lurker]

Gork or Mork?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

And Mindy? 🤔

[@The_Lurker]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames they're the ork gods Gork Is brutal but cunnin Mork is cunnin but brutal Gork is the best at smashing you in the head with a club Mork is the best at smashing you in the head with a club... from behind

[@GamingPaladin]

9:55 *Daily recruitment* for the Guard is measured in the billions, with unknown total men under arms but the number has to be in the high trillions or higher to account for the sheer number of planet-wide fronts they're engaged on at any given time. That's a bit of an undercount on Templin's part. ;)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤯

[@rickr9111]

as I stated before is sad that humanity is in that state and the emperor wanted the imperium to be of “science, equality and logic” he even said in somepoint“some xenos need to be annihilated but not all of them” sadly his sons and the rest did not get the meaning of those words neither. And even worst was Horus was beating him in there battle to the point of the state he was gonna be in but he loved him so much that he dint strike him even when he was about to kill him. Also to the “is hope a good thing or a bad thing in this universe?”….I’d say the more the expection of living in this world you either hope you survive to live another day or accept death!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for helping answer our Hope question 😊

[@rickr9111]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames no prob guys!

[@jarkydrunk5876]

"No. I don't care if you kill. What am I living for?" Gets turned into a servitor.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah we heard about those now 😱

[@goingblargh]

“The Emperor is not alive!” *”BOLD WORDS FOR SOMEONE IN ASSAULT CANNON RANGE.”*

[@bahhumbug2072]

It's hilarious that you talk about Hope. (In Warhammer 40k the actual God of Hope is Evil, his name is Tzeentch, The Changer of the Ways.)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Dang, even Hope is bad in 40k 😂

[@NicolaiCzempin]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We are far down the road 😂

[@HateMachinist]

The Templin Institute also made a Dossier about the Emperor of Man which is surprisingly good. I recommend that one as next stop on the 40K train.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks! We will add it to our 40k list 😇

[@chalif6]

''no, you go defend this'' Commissar: *Twitch*

[@ardentdfender4116]

Know it’s a long time since this vid been out. But the one thing that comes to mind in thinking about some hope. “Helsreach”. That Warhammer 40k full movie had hope. It also had a lot of heart. But it had hope! Hope you all had seen it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We haven’t seen it yet but have heard great things. Currently watching If the Emperor Had a Text to Speech Device 😀

[@commanderdragco3123]

Ah yes titans you know shit gets real when a walking church rocks up to defend you and your planet

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😮

[@bhurzumii4315]

As a Nurgle fan-boy, the futility of this, all of it, makes me smile. In the end, Grandpappy Nurgle will claim us all.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 love that he is called grandpappy Nurgle

[@slimslamfl]

And then it will be reborn. Gramps has it covered

[@kpnz01]

Regardless of how grim the setting is, there is "hope" in the imperium- you'll just very rarely hear it being extolled from the position of the imperium directly. It usually manifests in the inter-personal experiences usually extrapolated in the pages of the books that flesh out the universe. The "Gaunts Ghosts" stories/novels by Dan Abnett I think iterate that the best.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Gaunts Ghosts is a pretty cool title 🤩

[@Brakvash]

The sheer breadth of your wacky wholesomeness is infectious. You continue being you ;)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂 Thanks! 😝🥳🤗😁

[@GarlicAvenger]

I love watching new people discover this incredible universe of our extreme, dark future. Only thing i can say now is... Helsreach, by Richard Boylan - reaction when??

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Not sure when but it will happen 😇

[@alvarogarcia9862]

Bricky´s video is sure the easiest way to understand a LOT of w40k

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

And we will for sure see it eventually 😅

[@alvarogarcia9862]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames eyy! i love you answer my response!! a big hug from Spain!

[@TheFifthHorseman_]

Those "lion things" are actually creatures native to the ice-world of Fenris. Fenrisian Wolves, as they are known, might quite possibly be mutated descendants of the first human colonists on Fenris.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Interesting 😃 Little Norse mythology there 😁

[@TheFifthHorseman_]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Vikings In Space is a large chunk of Space Wolves' shtick :)

[@shagun1074]

You should watch the Brickys every faction explained, its so good at explaining and humorous

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We plan to 😁

[@nolanncerdan7039]

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for clearing that up 😃

[@denis197534]

Larrisa Thompson is the best narrator she could read a cake recipe and still have you on the edge of your seat Orks are my chosen race they don't seem to care about the state of the galaxy so long as they get to fight and have big guns.. the tempting institute explanation of Orks is awesome

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Orks is our favorite too because they bring the humor to 40k 🥳