Untangling Magneto | Video Essay

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Next character essay I'm revisiting Hulk's journey, but this time I'm looking at the theme of........trauma. Suprising I know.

[@OirichEntertainment]

Awesome

[@Cabelstudios]

I'm starting to see a pattern

[@alk3mystix]

*t r a u m a*

[@alk3mystix]

noice

[@yineo]

"It begins with his identity being defined by its membership to a collective trauma, then it develops into a man overcoming his individual trauma, and finally he's free living his life through his community." Did you plan this in response to the last two weeks, or did it just work with perfect timing? Because that's hella relevant.

[@focal_point]

By far one of the most, if not the most compelling villains in any of the Marvel films, brilliantly portrayed by two fantastic actors. Hopefully his inevitable introduction in the MCU is just as compelling.

[@whodatninja439]

after Fassbender and Mackellen, I cant see anyone else as Magneto 😞

[@Mathadar]

@@whodatninja439 I still suspect they will find a way to keep Fassbender.

[@SmileyySmiley]

@KK TV, He doesn't Hate Professor X??? Wtf?

[@SmileyySmiley]

@KK TV, He didn't leave him for dead in X2, and in the scene of X3, you can tell he feels terrible about Charles' death. Rewatch them.

[@SmileyySmiley]

@KK TV, He didn't know that the whole lake was going to be flooded. REWATCH THE MOVIE.

[@Elnont]

They managed to score gold with both casting. The writing is brilliant but it’s the actors who brought these characters to life.

[@MarvelNowProduction]

Magneto is on of the best philosiphical villians ever

[@marcusmcneal7453]

He’s often ranked as the best comic book villain ever created.

[@bigtravis6159]

A great aspect of the conflict between Charles and Erik is that they both have amazing perspectives and compelling arguments to support their opinions which allows the viewers to sympathize with each side , it is enthralling character development and brilliant writing

[@finnschlottau9556]

Fassbender just nails it every time he is on screen

[@SpFlash1523]

Agreed.

[@benparrish672]

Fassbender was one of the few perfect parts of the Fox X-Men universe

[@NeoConnor1]

This video and this one about Xavier really makes me appreciate the X-Men saga even more. These films are so criticized for their discrepancies and lack of respect for the source material, but your videos prove the films do add up; they tell a complete arc of two dramatically opposed, but still, passionate and respectful men who both just want the best for their kind. I love these films and I love your videos. Great job.

[@OirichEntertainment]

He is my favorite character in the x-men universe

[@imakesushinotsushit]

Fassbender was the best depiction of magneto ever

[@haniehahmadi8086]

He is the best comic book character

[@paloma8423]

beautiful essay! i've always found erik and his relationship to charles really interesting and touching... he's very tragic in that we tend to feel that the path he goes down could have been avoided, that he's always a few steps from seeing the other side, and the viewer ends up in the same spot as charles in feeling frustrated and hurt because erik's pain is very understandable and easy to empathize with, but he never lets himself heal. it really is interesting how all the retconning and prequel/sequel mess causes a constant struggle between his past and future self... i remember binge watching the movies when i was young and constantly comparing young magneto to what he would do, or would have done, in the future.

[@dani4229]

Ok but like.......Magneto regularly played chess with a telepath. A TELEPATH.

[@infiniteoctopaw]

Charles doesn’t strike me as a man who’d cheat. Even then, he respects Eric too much for that.

[@BloodyMary74]

Chess isn't poker. You can see everything on the board.

[@HeavenOrHell74]

This was a great essay buddy. I highly appreciated Listening to it. Magneto is one of my favorite characters from the X-Men comics and franchise, and I even relate with his philosophy in many ways. Although healed from past traumas, I think of them in a way now to provide strength to myself and my loved ones. Salute to you 🫡✊🏾

[@OirichEntertainment]

6:49 that was the most beautiful scene in the movie. Such a powerful memory representing a memory he misses

[@OirichEntertainment]

Chess is the representation of their friendship

[@IrethEdelstein]

"friendship"

[@casualenjoyeroflife]

More like romance

[@Xehanort10]

7:34 Shaw's beliefs despite being similar to Erik's in the belief that mutants were superior to humans were more like Apocalypse's "survival of the fittest" self centred vision of a world of the strongest mutants ruled by him.

[@elbobosan2]

Magneto’s cleat confidence a drive in X 1&2 seem to be the more settled and mature interpretation of the character. It’s hard to see how broken he is, how distanced from any sense of community. It’s a disguise far more than his costume. He’s stuck in a refined state of righteousness adolescent rage. Your essay helped me understand why I still loved Fasbender’s Magneto in the wreckage of Apocalypse and Phoenix. He matures. And fails. And matures even more.

[@marievieati]

magneto is honestly one of the best fictional characters ever. thanks for the video!

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Aww thank you so much for watching!

[@RicardoRicoBarroso]

One of the best written characters ever, no matter the media.

[@infiniteoctopaw]

Eric puts me in the same mind set as Zuko from Avatar. I’m practically screaming at the screen for him to switch sides. If he just channeled his fear and anger elsewhere he could be the greatest hero to have ever lived. Truly prevent the Holocaust he’s willing to caws so it might not happen to him again. Just a incredible character, truly one of the greatest villains ever written. So easy to understand that 8 year old me got it and deep enough to remain brilliant as I got older.

[@pacman5698]

Magneto has always been one of the most relevant and timeless comic book characters ever made. Right up there with Superman, Spider-Man, Captain America, the Watchmen, the Punisher, etc. But MY how is his character all the more powerful realizing the place we are in now as this has been uploaded on the same day we are seeing clearly visible signs of the new wave of growing authoritarianism, police-states, exploitation of the weak, and a failure on governments to protect the marginalized.

[@moxiemaxie3543]

Magneto and Xavier were bases off malcolm x and Martin Luther king

[@BigBraddarock]

Somehow you managed to make since out of the good and bad of the X-men film series through magneto . I love it !

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Thanks! I'm incredibly nostalgic towards them so I couldn't help but to put the extra work in figuring out different narrative patterns!

[@truepotential206]

Oof Fassbender !!! He embodied magneto so greatly in the last 2 movies

[@Mephiestopholes]

I've expressed the way I Love your writ. I almost cried as much as with the Spiderverse Vid. Thank you You're very clever.

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Aww thank you so much! I'm unbelievably flattered by that and I'm incredibly honoured that you enjoy them so much! :)

[@coldderthanicee]

by far the most amazing essay you did

[@bettyreads222]

So great to get a video about magneto, he's such a complex dope character.

[@elizavetae.9550]

this is great. your essays are awesome!!!! I enjoy your editing a lot

[@OirichEntertainment]

You are my favorite video essayist. Great idea

[@jasonaus3551]

Even in chaos you find yourself in a hierarchy if you are to get out

[@BenChanNYC]

I understand that you're trying to look at Magneto as a character with an arc, and from my understanding of this channel the approach has a more literary crit approach where you focus on what's presented almost divorced from its context in time or as a commercial construct with a purpose. (apologies if this sounds flippant, but as a KZbin comment, I am going to speak in broad strokes and most likely less than accurate terms, but I hope you get the gist) Magneto is the villain - a sympathetic villain, but in simple terms, he's supposed to be wrong. While having been a Holocaust survivor is a strong image, the fact that Magneto is popular in a big studio film almost ensures that he eventually align with what the film purports to be "the right side" ultimately as validation of Charles' position and worldview. (Days of Future Past being the ultimate rebuttal of Magnetos' stance since Raven's actions as Erik's proxy leads to the genocide he fought against) Erik isn't a "force of nature" imo as much as he's an "anti-force of human prejudice." He's man-made. What I find problematic in their use of Magneto is that they present him as fixating on the past and possible future whereas Charles represents what we convince ourselves is a more enlightened present. However, by taming Magneto as they do, it ignores the atrocities that have continued and the genocides that happen even now. It's a bit dangerous to present the crimes of WWII as "something in the past." and that Erik only fears "what might happen" rather than "what is still happening again in other places." There's a bigger placebo effect in play that these movies want to engage with history, but ignore the present for the sake of mollifying the audience. Just as hero/vigilante movies (and yes, I do love them) ultimately preach maintaining the status quo system while indulging in our fantasies of lawlessness - as long as it's for a righteous cause. (which then is rewarded by being welcomed back by that same system)

[@GameMaster-ig8oo]

Hey, can I make a request? Can you make a essay about Phil Coulson and his journey through the MCU and Agents of Shield?

[@RandyDukeakaDukers]

Fitz Simmons s also.

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Yeah I've been asked about it loads so I've been planning to do it, but it takes such a long time to get the footage needed for editing TV shows that I'll wait until the show is over and then watch the whole thing as one massive unit of story

[@Chasing_santino]

Storm please give her more context to her character since the movies didn’t explain her enough

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Yeah I'm thinking about it especially having revisited X Men 3, but I need a solid angle to write from, so we'll have to wait and see!

[@Chasing_santino]

Implicitly Pretentious I found this small but rare deleted scene from the last stand, that i think is big for character, it’s about the village she grew up in and I think u would find it useful, I can send it to u if u would like :)

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

@@Chasing_santino yeah sure send me the link and thanks!

[@Chasing_santino]

Implicitly Pretentious kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYurpGmVm9SmeK8 starts at 5:46 to 6:12, it’s small

[@tylerharris9847]

YES!!!! bro thank you so much my favorite comic book character words cannot describe the joy 🙌🙌🙌

[@spacecadetlostintransit]

“Welcome to da-“ Quality intro really, top notch 🧐👌🏾👌🏾

[@marz5014]

ur vids are the best. ur so underrated 🥺

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Aww thanks! :)

[@capitanawesome44]

Your best video up to date... and that is saying something!!! Keep up the great work and I will keep watching!!

[@thedrunkgiraffe8312]

I'd love a war machine video

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Yeah I have one planned out in a similar style of the Sam Wilson and Steve one but it never seems to win the vote, so idk

[@freudbrahms254]

You are way too underrated

[@dupin9251]

The discription is perfect. :D

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Lol thanks

[@dupin9251]

@@ImplicitlyPretentious You're welcome.

[@foxhoundbridges4851]

such an amazing charactor.

[@kennethhicks5101]

The question is, what would YOU do?

[@valmid5069]

"I am a Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? *And if you wrong us, do we not revenge?"* --Shylock, The Merchant of Venice (William Shakespeare) "...a pit where men are thrown to suffer and die. *But sometimes a man rises from the darkness. Sometimes the pit sends something back...Born and raised in hell on Earth"* --Alfred Pennyworth, The Dark Knight Rises (DC Comics)

[@arturocastroverde3349]

Unpopular Opinion Michael Fassbender Magneto is the greatest most compelling comic book movie villain

[@tylerdurden9803]

Erik and I have so much in common. I have Borderline Personality Disorder.

[@kikeatalayagomez1548]

Magneto is brilliant enough to construct a laser-focused rethoric of mutant survival that appeals to millions and also dumb enough to regularly play chess against a telepath

[@tatianalyulkin410]

But how is he wrong?

[@sifatshams1113]

Unbreakable, Split, and Glass videos, please!!!

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Nonsense. The hole never heals. You learn to live with it, to be aware of it, to fight it every single day of your life. And the really sweet thing is that one day you realize that your motivation is your love for the people you love and not your desire to destroy the people who destroyed your life. But to seriously imply that the pain is gonna go away? No. At least not from where I stand.

[@tonyliang8099]

Very relatable

[@AngusStewart01]

One of my favourite villains he’s my profile picture on my backup Facebook

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Is it the Fassbender, McKellen or comic Magneto? 😂

[@AngusStewart01]

Implicitly Pretentious Fassbender magneto the prequels version is my favourite version of the character.

[@bigtravis6159]

This is good content , I’ll sub 👍

[@Assain125250]

this 17 minutes of video is better than any amount of minutes i spent on any of the X-men films, You got a new sub

[@rocioflores5331]

storm next pleaaaaase

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Yeah, but pretending that Erik is unique, that quite a lot of us ( as the survivors of trauma/abuse ) do identify with our tormentors/torturers is more than naive- it's absurd.

[@Kpac_]

16:51 what is that clip from

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

It's from the X-Men Apocalypse bloopers

[@ShadaOfAllThings]

I'm not going to lie, Magneto and Charles both represent a failure of storytelling to me. Two men, both victims for being what they are, fight back against a system that wants them dead and is willing to not just kill them but kill everyone like them. One man fights back by trying to keep the status quo, failing to realize it is that status quo that will kill him. The other fights back by picking targets that don't matter, or by *FUCKING TRYING TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT BY CHEMICALLY CHANGING WHO THEY ARE*, and he's painted as the villain in ways that are barely convincing to its own narratives and story logic.

[@alacard4075]

In my view more mutants died at the hand of Charles and pacifism then by the vengeful hands of magneto. Its just that in the case of Charles he does not directly enact the deaths that happen because of him by non mutants afraid of mutants. In the comic books you see the scale of death cause by pacifism the cowards way of handling situations that require action in my view causes. Also how long before humans once again try to wipe out mutants like so many times before. Sometimes the answers and truths to a problem is not the nice butterflies and buttercups solution that we wish existed. When humans almost wipe out mutants by any human created virus or weapon maybe humans should be seen as the problem in that universe. Thus ide argue in the big picture Charles is just as bad as magneto is painted by people.

[@petermj1098]

It is hilarious people defend Magneto's actions when we are all humans Magneto is willing to kill lol Magneto is willing to massacre humanity as much as Sebastian Shaw and Apocalypse. The difference is that Magneto believes in mutant nationalism, Shaw believes in mutant feudalism, Apocalypse believes in mutant survival of the fittest.

[@OirichEntertainment]

9:43 that is what I say about you

[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

...instead

[@pattaegray688]

Yay (:

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

:)

[@wacodraco1558]

Magneto did nothing wrong.

[@OirichEntertainment]

How do you insert these clips in your videos?

[@ImplicitlyPretentious]

Thanks for all your comments! And I just download the clips from KZbin and then throw them in the editor :)

[@OirichEntertainment]

Implicitly Pretentious thank you!

[@OirichEntertainment]

Implicitly Pretentious Which editor do you use?

[@jamestolbert1856]

13:27

[@finn8460]

Not to he that person but....they gay, right?

[@martinmorles1]

Both charles and eric have an extremist positions , their both wrong, magneto is just as bad as nazis while Charles is outright naive , as humans have repeatedly turned against mutants despite of their good deeds , so all his effort of co existence is meaningless

[@jamestolbert1856]

Oh I hated this movie! It was so bland and boring