Impossible Range Ragnarok - Beyond All Reason (BAR)

[@symboh6492]

I remember in TA, you could force attack a pixel away from your big bertha and it would just fire beyond its range. Don't suppose that's a feature of BAR? :D

[@dave7526]

still works :D

[@Phoenixklinge]

Oh yeah i remember, love it!

[@Maegnas99]

pre-internet, i think everyone who played TA worked this out and had a holyshsit moment

[@MarkkuS]

Also, bombers could bug out and do an endless bombing line.

[@edmundkempin3170]

Yeah that was awesome ​@@MarkkuS

[@majormajorasic]

33:30 Ticks are vulnerable to Juno anti-mine/scout/radar/jammer missiles, it would take just 1 missile into your tick-spam factories to shut them down in the area and insta-kill them for like 30 seconds or so.

[@xeroprotagonist]

Yeah, this is why you don't want to spam just Ticks (although it seems like players often get away with it anyway because people forget the Juno exists) but I think it's probably better to spam a mix of units instead of a single type. Drongo had mostly Pawns with an occasional Crossbow in this one, but you could add in a couple of Ticks to that and get their speed and vision without leaving you too vulnerable to Junos. There are a lot of situations where I bet adding in a Mace or Centurion to the spam could make defending against it much more difficult, too. And if you're setting up 4 labs they don't all have to be T1 bot labs, you could mix in a vehicle lab to make Stouts or Shellshockers, or spam the cheaper T2 bots like Sprinters, Tumbleweeds, Ghosts, etc. to create as many different target profiles as possible that the defender has to deal with alongside the flood of basic infantry.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Juno is t1 and massively useful, only issue is it doesn't kill threatening units. It does kill support units used in every strategy and is a great assist when seiging or counter siege to remove radars and jammers

[@testname123]

When playing air, use the attack line command. It helps a ton, otherwise the planes get confused every time they lose sight.

[@zenec_]

Very cool replay! Would love to see you go for mass nukes, like 8 or 10 next time. A tactic I use sometimes, people usually make 1 anti nuke and then forget about nukes but If you build enough of them then they can get through and it's a lot of fun

[@Viv1ann0]

Or 100🥴

[@evernewb2073]

generally speaking I like pretty much any cake that has as little frosting as it can get away with (this stays true even with good frosting not just that abomination coating storebought cakes) cheesecake meanwhile is literally nothing _but_ frosting and somehow manages to be among my favorites...possibly because it is actually a general category of [custard pie] with "cake" in it's name rather than a general category of [cake]

[@sir9129]

For rez the wreckage must have enough HP (the gray bar if you hover over it) for it to resurrected otherwise it just becomes debris and only be reclaimed. Fiends explode when they die so they dont leave a wreckage but a debris. If you self-D it dosent leave anything wreckage or otherwise, so if you have a juggernaut that is about to die its best to self-D so the other team cant reclaim or rez the unit

[@zhshsG7]

As a former TA player, and having no idea about this game's unit names, I appreciate the TA games

[@TheJBerg]

Love seeing folks move over to BAR from AOE4. I'm really enjoying this game over AOE4, glad to see content to stream! Thanks and keep them coming and I'll watch!

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

Zero-K is another TA successor that's also available for free on Steam, and Sanctuary is an upcoming nextgen successor that should come out later this year or next year.

[@wcjerky]

I just learned that this exists two weeks ago and my inner child couldn't be happier. There's a bit of a curve learning the proper mechanics, but thankfully a lot of the skills from BW and SC2 transfer over very well.

[@Sorain1]

I love emergent gameplay like that. It's a morton's fork too, either you remove the defense to stop the shelling and thus whatever it was defending goes down, or you don't and live with the constant shelling.

[@kriegscommissarmccraw4205]

I think ticks are more annoying to deal with pawns, more of them and faster. However, Juno's stop ticks really well. So winter says, ticks first, and when the enemy starts using Juno's switch to pawns.

[@Argonwolfproject]

I wonder if one could simply place the ragnarok behind a mountain and order it to fire at the very edge of the peak, allowing some of the randomly-spread shots to miss high and fly across the whole map.

[@arthurgranja6795]

you can reclaim pretty much anything, even as little as a grave robber. so long as the explosion that killed the bot wasnt too big as to completely anihilate the bot. a thor lighting up grunts will kill 30 in a single shot, probably only 5 can be revived and 10 can be harvested, due to the highly destructive nature of high caliber guns

[@chronographer]

KZbin thinks this is Total A and links it in under your video. Thanks for putting me on to this.

[@eatashzombie8765]

TA was the game that led me to strategy games 20years later ive only just started on this game so getting the hang of it then will try online. Great videos very helpful and entertaining

[@mikethk]

In your next BAR video guide, would you discuss the best icecream cake ? Would be nice :)

[@kralmir]

to respond to what you said around the 1 minute mark about the pink player position often going towards yours: i think it is fair, the middle point is between you AND your half has far fewer rocks getting in the way. so youre expecting them to take less than half the size and the part that has less build-able land % and that is not okay in my opinion.

[@eric1437]

Hey thats me!! I tried my best "Ringblades"

[@MrSteve3200]

You're wrong on the cheesecake. It's one of those archetypal cases where less is most definitely more. An unspoilt, vanilla, ricotta cheesecake is to die for!

[@majormajorasic]

40:00 Oh why not ask cortex players for a t2 constructor since Cortex Calamity lol cannon is straight up better than Ragnarok? Metal cost - Ragnarok 63000 vs Calamity 61000 Energy cost - Ragnarok 752000 vs Calamity 718000 Health - Ragnarok 32000 vs Calamity 33500 DPS - Ragnarok 2625 vs Calamity 2660 Range - Ragnarok 5750 vs Calamity 6100

[@JohnnyCash101]

37:56 *two teammates nearly die “Look here I’m producing HALF my team’s resources”

[@tylerc.3829]

40:53 you BEAMED an ACU right there, not an AFUS, sent that commander flying lmao

[@RightAIopen]

Scroll is fine, but you could zoom in a bit more so we can recognize the unites when using the phone

[@dave7526]

your macro is god tier... i like the 2 T1 mex at 13 mins, thats my highlight :D

[@vitaphobiac]

watching that Maurauder go to town in the backlines really was the highlight of the vid, too bad it didn't make the thumbnail...

[@bluu.0111]

I watched your Aoe4 stuff until my interest in it went away. Glad to see you in the RTS I'm currently playing!

[@genogrippi2336]

A good game indeed, held out for the lol cannon. Glad i was in the vid. GG "Drcheezcake"

[@jerrebrasfield4231]

The intimidating sound of gatgun, proceeds to make kitten noises...

[@thederpyburgerplayz859]

I never knew you had more than one channel 🤣

[@Waggabagaboo]

Ticks are better to spam until they start Junoing. If they never do it, it's straight better than pawns. It's so easy to just switch to pawns if they "counter" (way more micro and brainpower to them).

[@LaMainy]

also ticks have muchwider view range, so in combo with the snipers they make way more sense.

[@JohnnyCash101]

Don’t play, but have you ever tried building your own keepers to extend the range? The cannon could cover the build and force fields typically protect themselves lol

[@colecook834]

The lol cannon. That is what i will forever call it

[@BallChainGaming]

Cheesecake is delicious... but it's pie, not cake. Pie > cake!

[@Alexandragon1]

3:35 yeah) 39:08 xD 44:18 LMAO Thx for the video!

[@Sokar12345]

can you use your own (or teams) shields to extend the range of the ragnarok?

[@NvM3RiSkYNvDaLEGENDS]

speachless had me looking like a venis fly trap watching this vid thanks im check that out appreaciated

[@WilliamLubiantoro]

Damn I love these BAR content :)

[@lordcrekit]

cheesecake isn't a cake, it's a pie/cake hybrid.

[@avalen5515]

haha i just started playing yesterday and ive already played a game with Choice. Cool seeing a small but close community

[@iKnownot999]

Every cake is better than cheese cake, cheese cake isnt even cake

[@PushkinAll]

If you want play very good, you need like cheesecake. Thanks Drongo, i got it

[@PushkinAll]

P.S. sorry for my English

[@TomJerry12933]

why diden't they turn off the forward shield? I'd rather lose the protection on that once place (which wasn't even being directly targeted) then have my entire rear-line's eco...

[@adikx5]

Hello. What its your computer spec? You have still ~60FPS even if its a lot of units fighting.

[@colingundel8779]

Try Caramel Bacon Cheescake. That might be heaven.

[@CancerFry]

Just started to notice but you should really look to leave a little bit of metal in your commander so you can revive it once your eco is a bit better

[@TT-vd7rv]

In total annihilation it was called the Vulcan

[@lorenzovankuijk9729]

Where is the AoE content Drongo? My days are not complete without it

[@christophervandermeer182]

I feel like ticks are way more savage to spam. Also harder for projectiles to hit.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Besides the juno which will massacre them

[@rekrn12345]

cheesecake is more of a pie than a cake.

[@nextelum2991]

if you dont like cheese cake your not human!!!

[@bajsbrev4651]

Couldn't you build some shields of your own to skid off of? Would be tricky but could probably finish off games nicely as well

[@extreem573]

Good Stuff, subbed for bar. But feel free to post wathever you heart desires.

[@shanerooney7288]

I request an all T2 artillery game play. 😂

[@captaintofu4926]

I wonder why did they rename all the units that existed in OTA? Do you know?

[@SmokeChannels]

Cheesecake is superior. Subscribed

[@iliasshogenov5929]

How many shields does it take to stop ragnarok? Did somebody do maths about it? I once blocked it with 15 shields, but I had a crazy eco and didn’t care that much about resources

[@ironyconfident]

He mentioned 7

[@iliasshogenov5929]

@@ironyconfident woo that’s a lot. But it’s a lot cheaper to counter it than to fire this gun

[@drstranger4407]

Definitely prefer ticks faster and more of them, crazy run pattern

[@Claire_Ballard]

Titans shouldn't really be used like Juggs. They don't have to be "better"

[@SillySausage-mq3so]

It does I play bot matches and have like 6 of these :)

[@LaMainy]

10k hours, and playing with your dad? You lucky man. :)

[@joeygk2990]

if you held all those pawns till you had a big army you probably couldve pushed through

[@Fyrapan90]

This looks alot like Total Annihilation. Is it a remake or something?

[@MoreDrongo]

Yup, inspired by TA - but the devs wish to make the game different.

[@nikolajderburner7150]

Sacher Tart is a way better as cheese cake. 😋

[@andydataguy]

10k hours on TA? Amazing

[@colecook834]

This looks like it could come out of supcom

[@chronographer]

Drongo please! Forgetting the name of the big bertha!

[@sinekonata]

I'm fairly sure the answer to the tick vs pawn question is the dirtbag.

[@Jehandaman]

Air seems a bit tough.

[@City_Hunter]

I had to come here just to get a dose of Drongos voice. sigh

[@ScalerWave]

Epic

[@ncthomas420]

chocolate

[@Amanredpill]

Cheescake....

[@rami-succar7356]

I do not like cheesecake

[@MrMerlinAOE]

Why do people blow up there commanders??

[@WilliamLubiantoro]

Probably to get more metal instantly.

[@Waggabagaboo]

Commander corpses can be scavenged for 2k metal, which at t1 is like boosting your metal ahead by 3 minutes of idle mining. With the experimental nerf its still 2 min worth of rush.

[@Taaz2]

With the latest patch, the dropped metal is 1250m

[@brandnew8004]

hey mate its pronounced "rascal" like the yanks do

[@chrisrmorriscm]

Red Velvet cake is better. For your replays watch the game.. takes notes and make your talking points.. at some points your tripping on your tongue. Its distracting from an otherwise good video

[@michaelstone5903]

All that eco just to spam zzz

[@son_60han]

Why suiciding the commanders ?

[@Maegnas99]

they can then salvage 2k metal from the commander corpse.

[@Sorain1]

@@Maegnas99 It might not stay 2k, the current test change is 1250 metal instead... but it's still a lot of metal.

[@einfachnurich2304]

you play very egoistik my friend .. overflow the 8k energie income to your team ... and give your team some mass .. if you got a income from 500 mass !!!!!!! that help more than your t3 gedöns !!!! just saying !!! or your t1 spam ! teamplay means not .. use 7 other player as a walll !!!!! teampllay means play together :-D sweethart

[@einfachnurich2304]

40:00 turn the keeper in front off.. and this hole cheatert echnik is done !!:D or build keeper in your base . also .. also you haf to build defence in your base .. why nobody do this . this buildorder gameplay is so boring . egoistig . so i can play again anno .. or cimcity 😀 if all would be play like this .. than this is just a better starcraft .. and starcraft is no rts .. starkraft was and is .. a buildorder game !!! the fastest guy win .. boringgggggggggg

[@FalconDS9]

exactly! .. everyone wants to be a robot these days.. just memorize the "perfect" or "meta" buildorder and win by being faster... at this point it would only be more effective to hack the game and fully automize it.. i dont know how we can stop this bs, it spreads out into every type of game.. be as fast as possible and win with aggression.. that leaves no space for fun.. makes every "game" feel like work...

[@chronographer]

Drongo please! Forgetting the name of the big bertha!