Improve Your Feral Gameplay! 11.0 TWW Feral Thoughts And Mythic+ Tips & Tricks

[@ummaaron]

As a feral main, it hurts so much when I do more damage playing my mage incorrectly than I do while playing my feral correctly xD

[@otaviofontes8388]

Ouch that comment hurts

[@theloa7154]

I felt exactly this so I levelled a mage and out dosed my mage mate in fresh gear lol

[@Coffeetableleg]

I miss my feral so much. Game was really ruined for me when I had to bench him for damn near anything else

[@BeatStreetTherapy]

Yeah feral main since bfa, but the shortening of our arms was it for me. Swapped to ranged

[@Psybear_tv]

@@ummaaron that's interesting. I find I'm beating mages but maybe that's just my own experience

[@darkwa456]

Tigers fury no longer resetting after kills was just a really weird change for me I loved it I felt like I was swimming with energy and it felt really fast paced, now it just feels alot slower, with loads of down time just sitting waiting for energy, I dont understand this change the damage feels decent but the slow pace just doesn't fit in with the whole fast attacking cat

[@fizzeeyylololol]

I also feel very low on damage. I‘m sitting on a 612 ilvl right now and deal almost 300k less then most other dd specs. Spent a lot of time now videoanalyzing to check if my rotation/ my build is broken. As I just started this season again to play I‘m sure a big portion of the lack of dmg is my fault. But the gap just feels really huge. The only time I shine is with cd‘s up.. Really don‘t know how to keep up with other specs. Not getting invited to other keys sucks after hours of queuing 😅

[@Rinoxable]

DOTC in m+ feels insanely more stronger than wildstalker (also in sims) due to the set 4pc ability. First pull today of NW +11 i've reached 12kk. I end my keys usually at 1.6-1.8 (depending on pulls)

[@jflay3656]

talents?

[@ShadowPally2305]

switched from DOtC to WS with a thorn tracker and your talents and damn i gained like 15-20% more dps ST and 20-30% more aoe! cheers for the guide!

[@carataylor3769]

What do you mean by Thorn Tracker? Is that a WA? Drop a link!

[@dustinmorgan682]

Hey Psy, do you still think wildstalker is playable rn? Ive been gearing a feral for m+ as an alt and thd ravage damage over the other is nice but i feel like im having the issue you said at the start. Trying to decide between ravage or primal wrath.

[@Psybear_tv]

Yeah you can play either. I'm doing 12s as wildstalker and doing a lot of damage. Choose your favourite 👍

[@ZoodiacCrowV]

Actually, Feral in tww is okay. But instead of talking about the dmg. The most disappoint thing is tiger fury can’t reset when minions die anymore. Which means that I can’t use it when every fight start.

[@sermerlin1]

It's bellow okay. But okay.

[@Jayberryjam]

off topic question, is that damage meter look just a customized details or a different addon? i've seen a few people with it, and i love how it visually fits into the default ui.

[@deviousoxide]

It's a details dmg meter skin.

[@kermittkerrr7071]

i feel like feral is very uncomfortable to play every time i try to play him.. need WA's for bleeds etc.. its a husle to play this class... like lets say a warrior.. u can turn off ur brain and just play

[@rymesyt851]

Thanks a lot, this was very useful for me!

[@andre_ist_da]

Sry im feral noob. where do you see your combo points? just in upper left corner? or is it somewhere else and I'm just blind? I also have problems to see my Apex Predator progs. Do they just appear in uopper right buff area or can i see that somehow and I'm just blind again? Only clarity progs are highly visible - but if I think e.g. on mage visualization of temporary buff progs, we seem to be really lacking ?! I really have a hard time to get away from Hekili

[@esprix1550]

For the Apex procs I made my own weakaura to show some bite marks on screen, hopefully I can post it here for you below:

[@mapamo1234]

Get a weakaura bro, luxthos, or make your own so u can track it.

[@Psybear_tv]

Yeah feel free 👍

[@Psybear_tv]

You'll see your bite light up on your bars. But a weakaura could help! I personally track my compo points top left but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're insane

[@snivels]

What nameplate set up do you use?

[@Perchhunter804]

feral summarized for me: ressource starved i press a button every 2 sec while my dots run out and i cant keep em up cause no energy nice

[@Punsakimbo1101]

I have been trying to find a better way to track bleeds / debuffs but haven't found anything that works. Any tips? I feel like I'm doing decent with getting most snapshots but seem to miss just enough to track them better

[@Psybear_tv]

I track everything in my head/with base UI. So I'm probably the worst person to ask. For me it was just hours of practice each day. There's plenty of weakauras out there though, maybe try the dream grove discord pins?

[@vatopedinos8324]

Thanks for all help as alwayz :)

[@SolaceAssociation]

I'm playing the dotc build, I cant make WS work for me I'm too challenged. During berserk windows I find that I'm spamming primal wrath, and just biting on procs and ravageing during its procs. Is this incorrect? should I be spamming bites instead of primals?

[@BeatStreetTherapy]

Wrath for WS and bites with wrath up for DOTC

[@orangeflow9809]

So why no adaptive swarm? When/where do you use that?

[@Psybear_tv]

Nah I always use adaptive swarm. For m+ and raid.

[@rudyrmn3043]

I don't see your combo point except at top of the screen ? You don't watch combo points?

[@Psybear_tv]

@@rudyrmn3043 I track them top left, yeah. Seems strange but easier than you think

[@John-jd7kt]

so what's the one last thing you wanted to talk about?

[@pluxxygaming]

NICE VIDEO !!!!

[@evasion.6096]

looking at archon and feral seems to be pumping in high keys

[@yoshiguy123]

Everything is slower at the start of an xpac. We have low haste.

[@Psybear_tv]

True but blizzard has specifically nerfed a lot of energy talents going into TWW especially predator. They want us to be slow going forward

[@wastedmalice]

Thx for vid!

[@gonzdoom]

Psy is there no way to get that TEAL Kitty Legion Skin anymore? or anything similar to it?

[@faitfulfist4426]

U cant get it any more sadly

[@Matraskul]

I hate Bloodtalons and dont play it. I know it costs some dmg but I play much more relaxed this way.

[@danielholzer7611]

Me too, I found I preferred not to even cast Thrash (which is necessary to proc Bloodtalons when Brutal Slash is on CD) and also it is guaranteed to fall off in convoke (and often in berserk)

[@CreatorOfWrath]

The issue is getting accepted into keys. I'm 612 with 1.7k io but still can't even get into 7 keys. I feel the feral spec has been tarnished over the years and no one respects the spec. I think blizz just needs to provide a rework to feral and do a complete overhaul.

[@Rinoxable]

if you are 1.7 it's normal that you don't get accepted into 7. 2k is 3 keys 7 and all 6. People will never pick someone with "some 7s" to do a 7. I'm not saying that is right, i'm just explaining that you getting declined is "normal". If it can comfort you, i'm 2.5k and i get declined from 9. My suggestion: queue your own key.

[@CreatorOfWrath]

@Rinoxable My perspective is based on experience when queing into pugs as feral vs. other classes. I've been playing M+ since Legion, but this is my first expansion playing feral. My enhancement shaman and ww monk dont have these issues, which is what i find odd. I guess I'll just push my own key until 2k / 2.1k and test again.

[@Psybear_tv]

I feel your pain and it probably seems that way but it's not actually a feral problem. It's the situation of the player base right now. Try signing up a +7 ara kara and see how many applications you get. Dozens. There's just so many people applying to keys that you're drowned out. For now I'd recommend pushing your own keys. It's brutal at times but at least you're in the dungeon 👍

[@maxw565]

@Rinoxable so if he has to do better than some 7s and 6s to be accepted into 7s how THE FUCK is he gonna do that. Clearly he needs 7s to improve his score then right?

[@Rinoxable]

@@CreatorOfWrath i main Feral too mate. I know.

[@mapamo1234]

Yooo psy wuzgood

[@Pjp848]

Feral is literally throw everything you got into a small 10s window and then wait and do nothing till you hit the gacha of a Omen proc , Only to be outdps'd and utilitied by a mage 10ilvls lower than you who got the game today

[@Psybear_tv]

@@Pjp848 I've actually found I'm competing well against mages, actually beating them most time. I think feral's doing alright ATM ya know

[@Pjp848]

@@Psybear_tv Yeah Its damage isnt suuper bad , but when it comes to competing outside of dps its really lacking apart from survivability . Also in my experience you rarely get chosen for a group . very disheartening

[@lukaskekesi1276]

Feral is bad. I am main feral for years and now i switched to paladin. You cant compare feral and retribution. Retri got so much QoL changes and reworks it feel new and fresh, feral is stucked in past and need big rework for me to play it again.

[@maxw565]

Still too disappointed in how the spec plays in tww. Meanwhile survival super fun! Please check it ouuuuut

[@Psybear_tv]

I keep getting survival recommended. Might have to check it out 😄

[@maxw565]

@Psybear_tv you will love it! The rework is totally amazing. And altho we loose some of it in 11.0.5 the changes are still cool!

[@gakhouse1636]

Maining survival too I had never played it before, how you think anniversary patch will be for us? The 1 charge butchery with bleed hoping is way overturned and melts everything

[@maxw565]

@gakhouse1636 it already got tuned down a bit. I have my gripes with the patch since im one of the few people that actually really loved cleaving mongoose bite or raptor strike for aoe and im sad to see it discarded entirely isntead of reworked into a different talent or smth. I hole that at least with the butchery changes haste regains some value for us (cause fuck low haste builds) and that blizz keeps the bleed uncapped. We really lack uncapped aoe

[@maxw565]

@gakhouse1636 oh and that blizz FINALLY tunes mongoose bite the fuck up again. It lost value due to tuning in df and to the tip of the spear rework they havent rebuffed it since for some strange reason and now its not even a st gain anymore...