Improving My Game With Tester Feedback

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AngeTheGreat

AngeTheGreat

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@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
EDIT: I'm noticing a lot of people in the comments blaming the testers or just commenting "skill issue" and I think I am partly to blame for this. The testers simply provided honest, valuable feedback and I believe the vast majority of it was useful. They are not stupid and were all selected through an application process. As a software developer, my job is to write software that will provide value to the user and I can't just write off all negative feedback as "skill issue" and "haters hating". The feedback I received from this process was extremely useful and has made the product better. The feedback was integrated into the game without sacrificing depth and the gameplay was not changed significantly. It just communicates to the player more clearly and is more polished. ORIGINAL COMMENT: If I survive the creation of this DLC, I promise I'll make a train DLC. For legal reasons this is not a real promise. Thanks for watching everyone! Without this channel's sponsors, none of these projects would be possible. To try everything Brilliant has to offer-free-for a full 30 days, visit brilliant.org/AngeTheGreat . You’ll also get 20% off an annual premium subscription.
@apgde
@apgde 3 ай бұрын
"I promise ill make the train dlc. Oh btw its not a promise" Lmao
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
Promising anything in the video game industry is a dangerous proposition lol
@apgde
@apgde 3 ай бұрын
@@AngeTheGreat true
@danczer1
@danczer1 3 ай бұрын
There are Diesel trains too 😉
@youkofoxy
@youkofoxy 3 ай бұрын
@@AngeTheGreat I see you have learned quite fast.
@melonenstrauch1306
@melonenstrauch1306 3 ай бұрын
I gotta be honest, I'm 99% here for Engine Sim but seeing how much you care about quality in the DLC gives me a lot of confidence that you'll do Engine Sim right.
@EhmedCousCous
@EhmedCousCous 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I respect this a lot
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE 3 ай бұрын
And he's *_transparent about it all,_* which also deserves praise!
@TlalocTemporal
@TlalocTemporal 3 ай бұрын
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE -- YES! The transparency is a massive factor in community trust and support. It's one of several things that separate the "WUBE software"s from the "Intercept Games"s.
@class8007
@class8007 3 ай бұрын
the idea of a steam engine rage game is hilarious
@delavanty
@delavanty 3 ай бұрын
Steam engine simulator horror game
@Thefreakyfreek
@Thefreakyfreek 3 ай бұрын
i can imagine running a real powerplant in this economy is stresfull af
@delavanty
@delavanty 3 ай бұрын
@@Thefreakyfreek horror game versions of this though
@chugachuga9242
@chugachuga9242 3 ай бұрын
@@delavantythe fuel prices are the horror
@delavanty
@delavanty 3 ай бұрын
@@chugachuga9242 nah I'm talking about like five nights at Freddy's kinda horror
@ValentineC137
@ValentineC137 3 ай бұрын
At this point I think I've helped inflict more psychic damage than my patreon will pay for, my bad
@leerypixel
@leerypixel 2 ай бұрын
Looks like ur comment might have reversed it
@leerypixel
@leerypixel 2 ай бұрын
Now go fix that my child soldier 🫡
@harrytsang1501
@harrytsang1501 3 ай бұрын
The handover from AI to player can have its own storyline of some seniors at a workplace guiding your way while slowly stepping back
@JeronimoStilton14
@JeronimoStilton14 3 ай бұрын
I had that exact same thought
@The_plant789
@The_plant789 3 ай бұрын
YES!
@wile123456
@wile123456 3 ай бұрын
Have an early "bad ending" where you deliberately sabotage the power plant once you get the responsibility
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 3 ай бұрын
And then overtime they all die under suspicious circumstances and it leads into the next DLC, which is somehow a detective DLC..
@wacherwicht1810
@wacherwicht1810 3 ай бұрын
​@@jwalster9412 Steamengine Horror game
@onebacon_
@onebacon_ 3 ай бұрын
4:00 I just want to tell you that I look forward to every video and they really do make me happy :)
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad to hear that
@4pelokananasov992
@4pelokananasov992 3 ай бұрын
I agree. All of your projects are super interesting!
@Nathillien
@Nathillien 3 ай бұрын
Making a game itself, is relatively easy - figuring out what is pleasing to the players, is by far the hardest part.
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
Exactly...
@giampaolomannucci8281
@giampaolomannucci8281 Ай бұрын
you make what's pleasing to you and find the niche of players that share the same values you can't please them all, but those who understand your views can help you develop the game into something that you'll enjoy even more in the first place
@expired_esoup
@expired_esoup 3 ай бұрын
13:10 When accounting for power generation, the higher amounts of power demands need to be weighted heavier. Under-producing power isn't an option, so the price has to lean towards the maximum, not the mean.
@sydneeflop2183
@sydneeflop2183 3 ай бұрын
NOOO
@acidsilly
@acidsilly 3 ай бұрын
soop
@AlphaSquadZero
@AlphaSquadZero 3 ай бұрын
Under-producing is an option, it is just that it will annoy people to various degrees depending on the severity.
@Aereto
@Aereto 3 ай бұрын
There is a choice to commit rolling blackouts in the States
@SkyboxMonster
@SkyboxMonster 3 ай бұрын
@@Aereto Rollingblackouts is a Capacity issue, and it is used to prevent a total black-start.
@DaxSudo
@DaxSudo 3 ай бұрын
2:26 as someone who worked on nuclear power plants I kinda love this. It is incredibly hard work and we follow extremely strict SOPs set out by physicists for a reason. Heh while you didn’t set out to build a rage game. I think the difficulty is inherent to the subject matter and I like that your initial builds did not shy away from it.
@geoffvdw
@geoffvdw 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. I want to play the first alpha
@jaggederest
@jaggederest 3 ай бұрын
I'm not going to lie I really kinda want to try the realism mode one that made people mad. "I can fix her" but ... a steam engine?
@SamMotioneer
@SamMotioneer 3 ай бұрын
That cable snapping event needs a lot of sparks lying all over the screen, with the cables continuing to spark as long as they are broken to really sell that something is not right.
@MrMe1620
@MrMe1620 3 ай бұрын
it was fun being a tester even though my boiler kept popping
@nairocamilo
@nairocamilo 3 ай бұрын
*crunchy sad cat face image
@star80doessdastuff
@star80doessdastuff 2 ай бұрын
​@@nairocamiloLOL
@redkawinchannel7432
@redkawinchannel7432 3 ай бұрын
you took adverse feedback, made the changes, and didn't once sound angry. absolute legend! 11/10 game dev, can't wait for engine simulator to release!
@kevincsellak296
@kevincsellak296 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, at 4:11, I think you might be misenvisioning what it is that a good chunk of people look forward to hearing about from you. I'd reckon a quarter or so of the people who've wishlisted the SES DLC on Steam originated from KZbin, stopping by on Steam primarily to support you and only secondarily because they want the DLC. And let's not forget that Patreon is a paid service. As is, there are undoubtedly plenty of people who would join the Patreon (and therefore have desires more aligned with the "Patreon" category on the diagram) if they could more comfortably afford it, but remain only within the "KZbin" and/or "Steam" category in practice. These are just two of the forces at play and there are plenty of other forces and counterforces I could list off, but the point is that you might want to reconsider what it really is that the different groups of people are really looking forward to. Especially your following on KZbin; it's common knowledge that just making videos doesn't cut it on this platform. There may even still be viewers whose only interest was 2D engine simulator and are holding out hope that the 3D version will be a cut-and-paste replacement for it! You do seem to have a good grip on the way you handle the different groups in practice, though. This video does a good job addressing a lot of points people might want to bring up on many different fronts, and paints a positive image of the progress made on the DLC. I suspect there'll be a lot of ES fans that won't watch it and several that'll click away halfway through, but for those who watch it in its entirety, I think they'll agree that your work on the DLC has been entirely justified and be satisfied with the video too. Also, at 13:00: in general, \frac{ \int g(f(t)) dt }{ \int 1 dt } eq g( \frac{ \int f(t) dt }{ \int 1 dt } ) for continuous real-valued functions f, g defined on certain real intervals (where the integrals are taken over specific time intervals), right?
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
I consider Steam to be a separate audience because there is an unexpectedly large lack of overlap between my audience on Steam and my audience on KZbin. A lot of the people who play Steam Engine Simulator actually don't know this channel exists and don't know who I am. It's surprising but true and I've analyzed this data extensively. Only about 2000 downloads of the base game originated from my KZbin channel initially. When the game went viral on Steam and was featured on the Steam home page, the game reached a significantly larger audience than even my KZbin channel could reach (over 100,000 players organically with almost no downloads originating from promotion on my channel). Again, it seems counterintuitive but it's true. Furthermore, while this is only anecdotal, most people I interact with on Steam and Discord about Steam Engine Simulator, clearly don't know who I am and found me purely through the Steam algorithm. In fact, almost everyone that arrives on Discord via Steam doesn't even know that Engine Simulator exists. It's for this reason that the priorities of this group are surprisingly different from the priorities of my KZbin and Patreon audiences. There is a large (but not complete) overlap between KZbin and Patreon audiences but the priorities are clearly different. A lot of my viewers are game developers or software engineers and don't actually care to interact with my products. Many of my viewers who join my channel Discord server have never even downloaded Engine Simulator, so they're primarily interested in devlogs for the programming content, and not necessarily to get development updates. Anyway, the point is that the nature of the three audiences don't line up with what you'd think intuitively. Most would probably think that my KZbin audience contains essentially everyone with Patreon and Steam being subsets, however, this is definitely not true. Maybe I should have explained that more clearly in the video. Your mathematical answer is correct, those things are not equal in general. Thanks for watching!
@kevincsellak296
@kevincsellak296 3 ай бұрын
@@AngeTheGreat Ah, ok. Good to know you know your audience. Guess I too am fallible to the biases and pitfalls I was pointing out.
@rantingrodent416
@rantingrodent416 3 ай бұрын
@@AngeTheGreat simultaneous congratulations and condolences on having a large Steam audience
@TlalocTemporal
@TlalocTemporal 3 ай бұрын
@@AngeTheGreat -- I will say that referral links to Steam probably aren't the most accurate. I found out about SES from this channel alone, yet I obtained it by searching it up on Steam. That might just be me being highly suspicious of links in general though, I have a habit of avoiding them if I can find the destination myself.
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 3 ай бұрын
@@AngeTheGreat A question: I for example downloaded the game because of your videos and your channel. However, I did so by searching for your game on steam and not clicking any links. Would that count as a Steam or a KZbin audience. Because such a situation might be skewing your numbers.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 3 ай бұрын
I don't think you should worry about making a steam train simulator. To all the people who really want that, check out the in development game Century of Steam, which is a 3d narrow gauge railroading game that simulates realistic locomotive firing, operation, and railroad management. Give Ange some breathing room, let him finish this up and get to engine simulator.
@JarheadCrayonEater
@JarheadCrayonEater 3 ай бұрын
If they hated your game, they would be outraged at the turbofan test cell simulator I built years ago while working for Lockheed and Rolls-Royce at Stennis Space Center. I'm a former turbofan test engineer. Back in 2010 I designed and built a 6 screen stimulation, including a custom throttle, that simulated the testing of large jet engines. Specifically the Trent 9000, 1000, and XWB. The simulator had failures to test the crews reaction to problems as well as a playback of a real jet on our test stand that was synced to the simulated jet engine run condition. It was used to allow training of test crews without risk of damaging a real jet.
@scottwatrous
@scottwatrous 3 ай бұрын
That sounds like a fun thing to watch, at least.
@JarheadCrayonEater
@JarheadCrayonEater 3 ай бұрын
@@scottwatrous, it was interesting! I had a blast building and programming it for over six months. The test crews and other facilities also enjoyed using it. Better than destroying a 20+ million dollar R&D engine!
@andresmartinezramos7513
@andresmartinezramos7513 3 ай бұрын
@@JarheadCrayonEater But the high stakes are always so much fun! (and stressful)
@rockets-dont-makegood-toas7728
@rockets-dont-makegood-toas7728 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, when you're training to test 20 million dollar jet engines, and it's literally your job, the threshold for acceptable complexity and finesse is admittedly a whole lot higher than somebody who wants to have fun playing a little steam engine game for 20 minutes.
@shApYT
@shApYT 3 ай бұрын
We watch you for you. Whatever you make I'll watch.
@DDev247
@DDev247 3 ай бұрын
Ange remember, we all love you (at least the patrons do)
@Caralh.o
@Caralh.o 3 ай бұрын
Not just patreons
@lucchesi87
@lucchesi87 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't all this frustration PRECISELY because of the Patreons?
@fruitygranulizer540
@fruitygranulizer540 3 ай бұрын
@@lucchesi87 well the Patreons just gave him honest feedback on the game which he asked for. Ange wasn't frustrated, he was just not sure what to do since he has a heavy workload right now and has to choose what to prioritize. but that has NOTHING to do with the Patreons, they just did what he asked them to.
@CYXXYC
@CYXXYC 3 ай бұрын
"instead of maximizing population maximized profit" capitalism by definition lmao
@Majromax
@Majromax 3 ай бұрын
At 13:00: The average-value operator does not (in general) commute with a nonlinear function. This could be "fixed" by having price-by-demand simply be a linear function, but that would probably be boring. Instead, an effective but approximate solution would be to sample demand at several points during the day, take the price at those points, and average those samples. As long as demand isn't too spiky and the price-by-demand curve is smooth, that should be close enough to the true value.
@kalebbruwer
@kalebbruwer 3 ай бұрын
That's basically it. The precise solution would be using calculus, though. You'll have to redefine average as taking an intergral and then dividing it by the period over which it was taken. Then you'll just take the average of the price as a function of demand, with demand being a predefined curve in this case.
@Keldor314
@Keldor314 3 ай бұрын
You need to integrate two different things. First, you integrate demand * fair price vs demand to get a total price for the amount of power needed that day, then you divide by the total demand for the day (integration of demand).
@fazbeark1ng
@fazbeark1ng 3 ай бұрын
I’m excited for the dlc
@istdaslol
@istdaslol 3 ай бұрын
l love how this "quick tech demo'esk side project" became a full game release with story, quests, etc
@loganjonesTTMS
@loganjonesTTMS 3 ай бұрын
Testing this game was a blast Ange! Thank you for giving us the opportunity to be a part of this cool project.
@henlostinky273
@henlostinky273 3 ай бұрын
yer AI gizmos might be handy later if you ever implement automatic transmissions or EFI in engine simulator, those are both effectively black boxes trying to optimize something by flipping levers based on some engine condition parameters
@alobowithadhd6191
@alobowithadhd6191 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update!
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 3 ай бұрын
The thing about the throttle is that your AI system is basically exactly how real life steam engines controlled their throttles and were able to maintain extremely consistent RPMs. Real life steam engines in industrial settings used a centrifugal govenor, where the output wheel was linked to a vertical rotating shaft with two balls. As the wheel sped up the balls would swing further out and close the throttle and when the wheel slowed down it the balls would fall inwards and open up the throttle valve, you can find schematics for it in one of James Watt's historical patents. Basically a mechanical feedback system that was remarkably effective, in fact so effective that steam engines make for some of the most accurate mechanical clocks. Perhaps you should just add the centrifugal govenor as either a difficulty setting or an upgrade, you could include it along with other historical upgrades to the steam engine like a double acting piston, firetube boilers and compound expansion. Also a consequence of the centrifugal govenor is that historical steam engines were able to maintain a consistent RPM by varying their wattage.
@JohnSmith-of2gu
@JohnSmith-of2gu 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Responding to changing power demand or other conditions should be a challenge, but in reality keeping a power plant stable under constant conditions was a solved mechanical problem so the player shouldn't need to babysit it. Though, a breakdown of your governor forcing you to BRIEFLY manually control it could be an interesting disaster.
@shayes.x
@shayes.x 3 ай бұрын
As someone who has developed software for years myself, I find one of the harhest parts to be how the majority of people simply do not have the prerequisite knowledge necessary to understand how much time and effort it takes to actually develop high-quality software. This is, of course, not their fault -- I can't expect everyone to know the details of software development. But it is one of those pain points every dev has to deal with, particularly solo/indie devs. Kudos to you for working through that and making a product up to your standards, while also taking harsh criticisms to heart and making big changes!
@Jade_TheCat
@Jade_TheCat 3 ай бұрын
I see that you included titles in the letters from NPCs. Are you planning to include an option to change title (Mr. / Ms. / Mrs. / Mx.) and such in game?
@Psychaotix2001
@Psychaotix2001 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I got into watching your vids by the Gen1 Engine Simulator videos I found while randomly hitting youtube. Now? Well, I'm here for the science lessons, and I'm waiting for the Steam Engine DLC. I know that it's going to be an excellent piece of work and I will definitely enjoy it. Keep up the good work and ignore the people who can't criticise constructively!
@TheComputadude
@TheComputadude 3 ай бұрын
It's honestly incredible how much you accomplish in such a short timeframe. You don't really see people interacting with communities of this scale while single-handedly writing a massive project, editing videos about said project, and doing the same thing concurrently with another even larger project. How do you find time in your day to sleep lol.
@geoffvdw
@geoffvdw 3 ай бұрын
I want the steep learning curve and no spoon-feeding. KSP frustrated the shit out of me but it was soooo rewarding when I conquered things, because it was just me vs a game mechanic. I feel like story modes in general detract from that, so if it's appropriate to add a sandbox mode with zero help I would definitely try that option first.
@sabamacx
@sabamacx 3 ай бұрын
10:10 is that control theory sneaking in? Imagine a DLC for the DLC where you need to discover the plant transfer function, and tune a PID controller for the engine, maybe extend it to a MIMO problem :)
@electrowizard2000
@electrowizard2000 3 ай бұрын
I want this so much
@kalash_fox7049
@kalash_fox7049 3 ай бұрын
Glad I got to test this, it was fun being a pain in your neck! (sorry)
@Not_Dane_Heart
@Not_Dane_Heart 3 ай бұрын
Just wondering if you can change the title of the engineer from Mr to anything else
@avg.player
@avg.player 3 ай бұрын
16:30 I study computer svience and I got second hand anxiety from watching this video. I can't even imagine how stressful it is to undertake such a massive project ❤
@AI-Idiot
@AI-Idiot 3 ай бұрын
I know this is a selfish request, but I'd like you to recompile it for linux, so that I and the other players that have linux-based systems can enjoy it without too much virtualization
@ArmancKeser
@ArmancKeser 3 ай бұрын
6:56 These points are amazing considering there are literal books trying to help people overcome this mistake. Profit First comes to mind which the tests might want to read lol
@alexcrafter_
@alexcrafter_ 3 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the DLC, ive been waiting for ages for it
@ProjectGhostfang-qc1ey
@ProjectGhostfang-qc1ey 3 ай бұрын
I just turned 14 and I’m always looking up to you and it’s my dream to make stuff like you
@erikziak1249
@erikziak1249 3 ай бұрын
Please find a balance to avoid burn-out. Negative feedback can be crushing. I wish you all the best with whatever you will decide. I admire the effort you put into this and your approach. You really are Great!
@YandiBanyu
@YandiBanyu 3 ай бұрын
I love that the term AI has finally reached the point where a control loop is finally an AI 😂 Edit: yes, I do know that NPC behaviour usually referred to as AI too
@theairaccumulator7144
@theairaccumulator7144 3 ай бұрын
Yeah if that's AI your lightbulbs and phone chargers are AI powered too...
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
I acknowledge that you edited your comment but I just want reiterate, LLMs and the "AI" of today has very much hijacked the term "AI". So you have the progression a bit backwards. Until very recently, the term AI for games had a very specific meaning and most of these AIs were very simple state machines and nothing more. My usage of the term is not incorrect, it's the fact that the term has been monopolized by LLMs and modern machine learning that is the problem.
@SillyOrb
@SillyOrb 3 ай бұрын
@@AngeTheGreat In addition, the term is hopelessly overused these days. To the extent that it is about to or has already lost any meaning. See all the random claims of “A.I.” PC parts manufacturers. It is ironic that legitimate uses like Ange’s are now called out in what must be a sort of attempt to over correct this trend. The hype really must be nearing its peak.
@duncanyoyo1
@duncanyoyo1 3 ай бұрын
I always think of the quote "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad" - Shigeru Miyamoto
@AbsolutelyCatastroffic
@AbsolutelyCatastroffic 3 ай бұрын
Does this confirm that you're doing engine sound design with beamng? All of your simulators are incredible for sound, this would be a really incredible collaboration to see
@dragonstubbe
@dragonstubbe 3 ай бұрын
Even though I'm mostly here for engine simulator, I'm always just excited when another one of your video's come out because of the educational aspect of them all! Thanks for making such great content.
@stuntvist
@stuntvist 3 ай бұрын
"Maximizing profit without progressing" ah yes, the inevitable end of capitalism. If it makes one person one more dollar at the expense of everyone and everything else, they're going to do it. What a wonderful way to run a society.
@IronHexacyanoferrate
@IronHexacyanoferrate 3 ай бұрын
Because guess what, most tycoon/simulator games want you to maximize profit, hence most testers assumed that was the right way to do it...
@andrewkoontz8206
@andrewkoontz8206 3 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, ultimately what you are putting your effort into is honestly of little concern to me. The reason I continue to come back to your projects and channel has less to do with what specifically you're doing and more to do with how you're doing it. Your meticulous attention to detail and consistently impressive ability to design solutions to issues you encounter is really captivating, and it's clear that you have a great passion for the things you work on and want to do them right. This project didn't gain a large following because what you're designing was something people really wanted, but rather because people enjoy seeing skilled, passionate individuals perform their craft. Just keep doing things the way you enjoy doing them, and I've no doubt that the end products will turn out fine, and your audience will continue to enjoy watching you work your magic.
@JohnSmith-of2gu
@JohnSmith-of2gu 3 ай бұрын
A lesson about how things can look way more intuitive than they actually are when you've built them. Also I find it fascinating that this game about operating a steam engine is getting a storyline. Well, always fun to explore unconventional storytelling lenses!
@WildEngineering
@WildEngineering 3 ай бұрын
12:55 The reason taking an average doesnt work is because you need to root mean square. The average of a sine wave is its DC offset. RMS gives you the effective power delivered
@Henrix1998
@Henrix1998 3 ай бұрын
Maximising profits instead of people, I wonder where I have seen that before
@differentthingsgaming
@differentthingsgaming 3 ай бұрын
This game is very intriguing, if only it worked for Mac computers. :)
@TheSuperiorQuickscoper
@TheSuperiorQuickscoper 3 ай бұрын
I think my comment got autoremoved due to having a URL in it, so I'll try again. As a kid, I used to watch TV with closed captions, and it dramatically improved my reading comprehension. I'm also a big fan of Tom Scott's commitment to a11y. With those two points in mind, please (to steal a phrase from Tom) "buy some damn subtitles". KZbin's auto-captioning just isn't the same, it fails miserably with technical content like yours. I suggest Amara, which is what Kurzgesagt uses. Amara also supports languages other than English. Hell, I'm a Grease Monkey patron and I'd be willing to help transcribe your videos for free.
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
I'll see what I can do, thanks for the suggestion
@hobbified
@hobbified 3 ай бұрын
yay more demands
@TheSuperiorQuickscoper
@TheSuperiorQuickscoper 3 ай бұрын
@@hobbified That's why I said I'd be willing to help for free, to offload some of the work. I could have a deep learning transcribing tool ingest videos, and then manually touch up the subtitles. Or even start with YT's autosubs.
@henrysanecdotes5323
@henrysanecdotes5323 3 ай бұрын
You keep going. It’s insane to me the level of commitment and passion (though I suspect you might not like working on this as much as you did previously lol) you have for this. Nobody is perfect, but you’re doing pretty dang great
@jerrycaskey4483
@jerrycaskey4483 3 ай бұрын
Hey, I spent 4 years subbed to Randy (the arcana guy) so there is no way to out-dissapoint me at this point.
@Exilum
@Exilum 3 ай бұрын
You didn't mention it, so I don't know if it's something you thought about but couldn't figure out the feasibility of, but when you don't want to do a tutorial yet want to fix the learning curve, one of the easiest and most intuitive methods is to adjust when players have access to features (similar to AI but less overwhelming). One example: to teach players to deal with expenses, a simple way would've been simply to disable most of the economy at first, only keeping expenses. Anyway, I know it's unlikely to be something you'd want to revisit, so good luck working on Engine Simulator!
@PiotrMichniewski
@PiotrMichniewski 3 ай бұрын
How do I sign up to be a tester? I'd love to check this out
@joharyny69
@joharyny69 3 ай бұрын
Not much relation to this video but i can see your engine sim bein used on electric cars like the new electric Dodge for example
@theworkshopwhisperer.5902
@theworkshopwhisperer.5902 3 ай бұрын
"When given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."
@ThatTrueCJ201
@ThatTrueCJ201 3 ай бұрын
You missed your opportunity using the word "pressure" in your thumbnail, rather than "stress"
@marehawk411
@marehawk411 3 ай бұрын
You know I wish I can hear those words coming from many other devs, but you my friend, you did it, thank you. :)
@skoovee
@skoovee 3 ай бұрын
6:59 they are playing the game correctly under the free market, if the free market wanted cheaper energy it would have lowered the prices smh
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
It did, that's why everyone left the city 😂
@pedrotski
@pedrotski 3 ай бұрын
I loved the game, but I liked it as it was so simple. If it ended up the DLC was simply a train track with hills, brakes with some kind of engine wear, I would have picked it up.
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
I understand. This DLC was supposed to be simpler than it is now but it just didn't appeal to testers despite the fact that many people asked for it. One surprising thing that I learned as a developer is that high demand for something doesn't always translate into something that people actually enjoy. I want people to feel like they're getting decent value for their money. In any case, a train DLC may still happen at some point when I have the time. Thanks for watching
@qie2iqee
@qie2iqee 3 ай бұрын
I look forward to this dlc. i know making stuff like this isnt always easy, but ur doing a great job, keep up the good work!
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete 3 ай бұрын
You can save space by changing the °C/°F to just what the user wants to see of either of those
@MrVolodus
@MrVolodus 3 ай бұрын
Me play game now! Release game :D Great work!
@paulmartinek1716
@paulmartinek1716 3 ай бұрын
You are a rare find as a game dev, thank you for taking the time to make things right and taking the time to listen to the community, that means a lot! Even if the community can sometimes be harsh and less than helpful! I appreciate all of your hard work!
@purplenanite
@purplenanite 3 ай бұрын
12:54 is it that the demand -> price function is nonlinear? if it was a linear function, the (function of the average of demand should) be the (average of the function of demand) and linearity is a common assumption
@LeeAtkinson98
@LeeAtkinson98 3 ай бұрын
yes, he needs to average after the result of demand * price, not average demand then * price
@nuclearsu
@nuclearsu 3 ай бұрын
Damn bro, why was Ange so aggressive in the intro of this video?
@luigi.0533
@luigi.0533 3 ай бұрын
I hope that we can play the DLC soon
@nuckypuck
@nuckypuck 3 ай бұрын
Always love hearing that BeamNG is a supporter
@alobowithadhd6191
@alobowithadhd6191 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a completely autonomous mode! Perhaps you could fiddle with the load yourself and see how the program deals with situations.
@TRJK
@TRJK 3 ай бұрын
Ain't no way, I just randomly though "Lets check if Ange has posted a new video, it's been a month now" and here I am, just 1 hour after you posted it.
@makeandbreakgames1791
@makeandbreakgames1791 3 ай бұрын
Same lol
@tostitossssss
@tostitossssss 3 ай бұрын
you need to get subbed asap
@makeandbreakgames1791
@makeandbreakgames1791 3 ай бұрын
@@tostitossssss done lol
@AlpineTheHusky
@AlpineTheHusky 3 ай бұрын
Weird. Guess your test players are from the US as they dont know much about fuel economy
@AngeTheGreat
@AngeTheGreat 3 ай бұрын
My testers and audience are from all over the world. Europe might actually be overrepresented in my testing group
@aliciaamerson7658
@aliciaamerson7658 3 ай бұрын
Can you add a hotkey to the debug menu in the final release.
@ZeroUm_
@ZeroUm_ 3 ай бұрын
Hello, first timer here, this video has been recommended to me. It looks like a good project, and a great presentation too. Just one thing I've found is that it's really weird from what you've said: "One of the main objectives of the game is to increase the town's population", but I haven't seen a single number or graph that directly measures it, other than achievements. It's not that odd that the players keep maximizing profits when the big numbers on the center of the screen are about money, not the town's healthiness.
@pillagergaming
@pillagergaming 2 ай бұрын
who loves the kawasaki z series z750 z800 z900 z1000
@austin2994
@austin2994 3 ай бұрын
The Editing and Logical progression is outstanding. having never played the game, the video makes me want to try it out
@Godot-Game-Dev
@Godot-Game-Dev 3 ай бұрын
W video how tf have so many other people commented it was released 3 min ago 😭
@SamyasaSwi
@SamyasaSwi 3 ай бұрын
Released on Patreon first maybe
@Godot-Game-Dev
@Godot-Game-Dev 3 ай бұрын
@@SamyasaSwi Yeah I guess
@Beder3105
@Beder3105 3 ай бұрын
will it be done until december this year?
@pyrotas
@pyrotas 3 ай бұрын
Given f(x) and introducing as the notation for "average", it quite immediate to show that if f(x) is a nonlinear function of x, in general f() is never equal to .
@wooviee
@wooviee 3 ай бұрын
I haven't bought Engine Simulator yet, but I watch every video. The content is very interesting and one day I will definitely pick up the game. Thanks for the cool content.
@FadeToEvil
@FadeToEvil 3 ай бұрын
I am kinda don't care about a game... I am worry about... Where is indication diagram by which we can juge about process and where is steam consumption? We need it in kg / hp / hour! Steam is not a joke!
@michaelbuckers
@michaelbuckers 3 ай бұрын
Heed the warning, adventurer. Caving to people with skill issue is how you go from making simcity to making farmville.
@jackeyboy6538
@jackeyboy6538 3 ай бұрын
Bro there is literally no greater hive of scum and villainy than the steam update comments, for no reason whatsoever they are absolutely brutal and unhinged and are never happy, please never look at them
@ShrikeGames
@ShrikeGames 3 ай бұрын
I hadn't heard of your game before now, but the video was quite interesting and now I'm interested in the game too. The youtube algo worked for once??
@growingup15
@growingup15 Ай бұрын
I am here for everything because it's fun. I understand that you're 1 guy trying to do multiple things. so take your time.
@Ryzen4070TM
@Ryzen4070TM 3 ай бұрын
I cant wait for this DLC thank you for everything
@Krebzonide
@Krebzonide 3 ай бұрын
You better not release an unfinished game. I demand you make your game the best game it can possibly be, even if that means neglecting your youtube channel.
@IronHexacyanoferrate
@IronHexacyanoferrate 3 ай бұрын
Hi Ange
@borax176
@borax176 3 ай бұрын
Don't give up!
@seennotheard8888
@seennotheard8888 4 күн бұрын
I'm assuming the market average price issue was a matter of volume weighted average price (VWAP) vs time weighted average price (TWAP)
@Maxwe1I
@Maxwe1I 3 ай бұрын
Ive been wondering for a while now, WHO IS JOE??
@IronHexacyanoferrate
@IronHexacyanoferrate 3 ай бұрын
It's Joe
@goldwolfgaming7821
@goldwolfgaming7821 3 ай бұрын
amazing question, who ever could Joe be
@JensChristianRestemeier
@JensChristianRestemeier 3 ай бұрын
And then people keep complaining that game developers don't show what they're working on...
@DUSSR1922
@DUSSR1922 2 ай бұрын
ange take your time! you deserve it i believe it's really hard to do this, you don't have to be so focused and be stressed on this! take breaks for weeks maybe even months, you already did a ton for us!
@chris-hayes
@chris-hayes 3 ай бұрын
Kinda funny, I just came from watching LGR's "SimHealth" game review, which is essentially the original SimCity + healthcare system economics. SimHealth allows you to do some incredibly fascinating stuff with it, but it just wasn't fun unless you were already trained on the subject. I think you're doing a lot better than SimHealth in the "fun" department, and showing it's still possible to make a complicated, model-driven sim fun. Btw as a frontend dev, I must compliment the consistent feel you've built with the interface.
@RowynOfficial
@RowynOfficial 3 ай бұрын
it's crazy how much people expect from 1 guy. don't be afraid to take a break.
@alfascav1754
@alfascav1754 3 ай бұрын
I think its important to keep in mind feedback isn't creating problems, its identifying them., for example at 2:45, you mention getting the negative feedback wasn't a great experience. The negative feedback you get in playtesting phases, is doing nothing but IDENTIFYING problems and issues that already existed, you just missed them. it FEELS very overwhelming when you start the first round of playtesting, but these issues would either go unresolved and unnoticed if this wasnt done, and you would end up with a complete failure on launch. Playtesting/QC phases only seem to bring up new issues, in reality, they are issues that were there all along, but unidentified. I found keeping this in mind helped to take the sting from some of the playtesters comments
@johnfreeman2956
@johnfreeman2956 Ай бұрын
@9:33 I think it would be fun to have a "gremlin mode" where the AI maliciously messes with your setting lol. Also, please make a mode with no explanation, I'd like to try it. You also could do a tutorial type thing where the game starts with no explanation, the player accrues debt, and then a helpful person is like "hmm seems like you need a hand." Now the player has to work off that debt lol
@Revoker1221
@Revoker1221 3 ай бұрын
I'll bite at the challenge mentioned at 13:02 . My first thought was Jensen's inequality (or at least closely related), but more broadly it looked as though the fair price function was non linear in the first place, so mapping the average post vs pre transform was always going to be different. Solution: apply the fair price function to the moment-to-moment demand function, then calculate your average from there. How'd I go?
@squibblez2517
@squibblez2517 3 ай бұрын
100% gonna buy this next paycheck. a friend of mine plays and loves it, and this cements that not only is it a great game, but its headed by a fantastic dev. great work Edit: holy shit it's free, absolute GOAT dev
@gabeteuton
@gabeteuton 3 ай бұрын
You know what? The best way to care about your project is to care about you, so work on whatever the fuck you want to work if you ask me, (do NOT take this as business advice pls). I'm not invested (financially) in your work, i can't support you on patreon, though i do have steam sim on steam and have the dlc wishlisted, and i'm also interested in engine simulator... however what i take from your videos is: you'll do a great job, and the only way to get you to where you want to be, is to let you do the great job that you do, and to allow that to happen, just work on what you want to work. hopefully things'll go better over here and i'll eventually will be able to support you, i'd love to! Cheers
@DerSolinski
@DerSolinski 3 ай бұрын
Ahhh if RL would be so accommodating... Complain on how crappy and difficult the gameplay is and magically somebody nerfs your utility bill...
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