Improving the BMC TeamMachine SLR 01 - This is what we do.

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Mapdec Cycle Works

Mapdec Cycle Works

Күн бұрын

This is the BMC Team Machine range topping SLR 01 Carbon Road bike. Off the shelf this has a huge price tag, you would expect BMC to make it utterly perfect. However, it takes this humble little bike shop in Cumbria to bring it up the the level of perfection this bike and rider deserve.
Full Spec
Frame, BMC Team Machine SLR 01 One
Wheels, ZIPP 353 NSW
Tyres, Pirelli P-Zero TLR SL Race
Groupset, SRAM RED AXS, 44/31 10-28
Saddle, Selle Italia Novus Boost Lady
ICS Cockpit 2 Piece Aero with BMC Clip on extensions
BB, BBinfinate BB86 to SRAM DUB
Measure, Measure again, grind, measure, etc....
Tools used
Sealy Honing Tool
Internal Micrometer
Praxis 40.85 gage
Hambini 40.95 gage
Engineers Parallels,
Park BB Press
We use Wera tools for all our Hex, Torx and Torque tools.

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@kevinfrost1579
@kevinfrost1579 Жыл бұрын
Paul cannot praise what you do and how you do it highly enough, absolute ⭐. Always balanced, fair, detailed, factual. Shows there is a future in the bike industry for those with skill and application. Somewhat ironic that the opportunity nowadays so often lies, in part, turning manufacturers ‘flagship’ offerings into items fit for purpose. Your patience and focus are exemplary. Good stuff 👍
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin. I think I am on a little mission to revive the bike shop into a meaningful place for cyclists, rather than the showrooms for big brands many have become.
@aljaliah6868
@aljaliah6868 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec You are on the right path, a motion shared by many of your followers I would say.
@kevinfrost1579
@kevinfrost1579 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec mechanics’ mechanic , cyclists’ cyclist 👍 ….. yeah baby !
@seanmccuen6970
@seanmccuen6970 11 ай бұрын
calm down, all he does is pay attention to the details like anyone should. any bike I build that I'll be riding, all this is standard and compulsory. it's common sense, ffs.
@djiembefolaDan
@djiembefolaDan Жыл бұрын
My favorite new bike tech channel. It's fun to watch someone who knows what they're doing and gives a crap!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Fu## about to find out. Yes. I’m promoting by business by showcasing the services we offer. It’s more fun than advertising and discounts. 🤷‍♂️
@youling1997
@youling1997 Жыл бұрын
I felt sad after watching because I know I probably will never encounter a bike shop that's as professional as yours. But I did learn a lot from your videos, so maybe one day I will build my dream bike myself.
@paulsymons562
@paulsymons562 Жыл бұрын
That right there is why I build my own bikes up from frames and do all my own mechanics and wheel builds. Looks like even massively expensive bikes come slapped together from the manufacturer with poor attention to detail. In my experience they also tend to have no-to-minimal grease or other lubrication. My costs are just tools, my time is free so I can take the time to do it right.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Жыл бұрын
I saw Wera screwdrivers tested to destruction in a comparison with several other brands. They scored either top in each test, or within 1 or 2 places of top. Excellent quality tools, which I guess is why Mapdec recommends them.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
We don’t mess about with cheap tools. The bikes we work on are too expensive, and time is too precious.
@MrDazP1adv3ntures
@MrDazP1adv3ntures Жыл бұрын
That was a well explained workshop session. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together to keep us all informed. I am looking forward to your next installment already.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@davenicoll43
@davenicoll43 6 ай бұрын
I do enjoy Pauls videos, he is meticulous in his inspection of bikes and to be fair if it's top of the range it should have an elevated QC system and I hope BMC watch his videos and learn.
@davidgeorge9233
@davidgeorge9233 Жыл бұрын
You are a credit to the industry, above and beyond attention to detail.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you ☺️
@echtogammut
@echtogammut Жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed by your commitment to build quality, if I didn't do my own builds, I'd fly across the pond for my next bike. As for the integrated Quark power meters, from my own experience I've only had Shimano chainrings wear enough that I needed to replace them. All of my SRAM rings are still cranking, with regular chain replacements. For road use, I don't see the integration being an issue, but for CX, Gravel or MTB, I've had enough ring strikes going over logs and granite that I want my rings as cheap to replace as possible.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@RC-fp1tl
@RC-fp1tl Жыл бұрын
Steel is real for chainrings
@martincoenen2
@martincoenen2 10 ай бұрын
I really love your honest opinions and craftsmanship and videos, lots of respect,keep up the good work !👍
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Really appreciate the kind words.
@simonalexandercritchley439
@simonalexandercritchley439 Жыл бұрын
Cudos to you putting the customer first. A well explained and detailed video.BMC should pay you for your time and for saving their ass.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
We will see
@davidoliver4567
@davidoliver4567 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, a humble little bike shop that should be the envy of all. Your clientele are so lucky. After years of abusing my body ski racing, marathon running, even in the late 80's I bought a LeMond bike and moved to France to play on the bike. My knees finally fell apart. I am rehabbing a total knee replacement as we speak, and planning on hitting the mountain (40 minutes away here in Oregon) and doing a fair bit of road cycling (easier on my remaining non bionic knee) next fall. Your videos and your obvious attention to detail (along with a dose of the infamous 5 year old) have and are encouraging me to build my own bike (Look 765 optimum). A few years ago I transformed a old Raleigh Technium (repainted and all) into a single speed for college daughter. I wish I was in your neighborhood. Thanks heaps for the inspiration. Sorry if I rambled on...that's what us old folks do haha
@davidoliver4567
@davidoliver4567 Жыл бұрын
though I do have another daughter in London
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a life well lived. The 765 optimum is amazing. it’s exactly the endurance bike I was hunting for.
@StanEby1
@StanEby1 Жыл бұрын
For someone with knowledge and experience not even close to yours, it is very interesting indeed to hear verbalized what your discerning eye sees, and to be edified by the wisdom you have gained through the application of your considerable intelligence over years of profitable experience. Bravo.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan.
@TheChindoboi
@TheChindoboi Ай бұрын
Love the work you've done to identify and remove the void in the BB.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Ай бұрын
Thank you kindly
@global_nomad.
@global_nomad. Жыл бұрын
great 'ad' for skilled bike mechanics/shops - as ever a pleasure to watch your attention to detail and care for the customer(and the bike). Just wish you were a little closer to me...
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@donschloth5785
@donschloth5785 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your work and attention to detail. Thank you.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@co7013
@co7013 Жыл бұрын
I recently saw the aluminium Team Machine. Now that's a bike I would buy.
@daviddjerassi
@daviddjerassi Жыл бұрын
Beautifully executed what a difference the Lady rider has now got a Team machine as a real Pro rider would have your attention to detail is top class a great video thank you .
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank You David.
@universe-juice
@universe-juice Жыл бұрын
Time is bringing its manufacturing to US. Not sure how to feel about that, but im hoping they will keep their integrity. Will definitely be getting an ADHX in the near future. Maybe make a trip to the site. Have already talked to some people who will be working with them. Fingers are crossed
@davemellor4697
@davemellor4697 Жыл бұрын
Excellent attention to detail,I have to say the BMC team machine although not an aero design is a great looking bike,and with that bar set up its an all rounder as you can do TT on it as well!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
That’s the idea. Really versitile race bike.
@samuel8590
@samuel8590 Жыл бұрын
Built my SLR01 with 12 Speed Dura Ace. Absolutely love it!! Good job on this one.
@MrJiiPee75
@MrJiiPee75 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that found this channel! I think you are amazing guy! 😊🙏🏻 The truth is out there in the bike industry and people have to see that you can’t always have the perfect parts or bike only on fake reputation or lots of money
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Vinch22
@Vinch22 Жыл бұрын
Perfect example of a true MECHANIC! 💯
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SPLSE
@SPLSE Жыл бұрын
@Charles Man Also a sign of a true mechanic. Messy hands. Messy work.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
very true.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
My hands are my livelihood. I learnt early that a few seconds saved not using gloves is often weeks of sore hands, broken skin, rashes and reduced work. Look after your hands. wear barrier cream and use gloves.
@greglevick9662
@greglevick9662 11 ай бұрын
Nice to watch someone with a brain and attention to detail 👍
@gelliao
@gelliao Жыл бұрын
I hope you can get a LOOK 795 Blade RS into your HQ and review them too!! Keep them coming!! I love your contents!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
There is one on the channel already and we have the new one lined up.
@add28
@add28 Жыл бұрын
Great work, the proper one, no corners cut, I wish you were my local bike shop. I totally agree with you, it's almost imposdible to buy ready bike with good fit. Everyone who had a bike fitting knows that 🙂
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kpizzle1985
@kpizzle1985 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video!
@GNX157
@GNX157 Жыл бұрын
There’s probably only a dozen or so (and that’s being generous) other shops in the world that would do what you did here with that bike.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@merckxy54
@merckxy54 Жыл бұрын
Great build, . Shame BMC did not quality control the bottom bracket, but then that why Hambini is in this world for!!!!!
@SupercarAlex150
@SupercarAlex150 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! I love these videos, keep up the amazing work!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@nelsonlopez879
@nelsonlopez879 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for this review, i was getting interested in one of those
@blublublublublublub
@blublublublublublub Жыл бұрын
I see these one piece BB inserts as problematic once you want to remove them again. My Mountainbike had an adapter from BB30 to BSA in it. Dirt has built up over the years in the recess area in the middle which caused problems when I pushed the insert out. I ended up scratching the bearing seats of the frame. Not fatal but very ugly:)
@Garfie1d73
@Garfie1d73 Жыл бұрын
Hambini would be proud.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
We are Hambini dealers now ☺️
@hermes987
@hermes987 Жыл бұрын
Great and through work! Well done!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si Жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to see your take on one of BMC’s masterpiece frames if you ever get your hands on one.
@9090Glenn
@9090Glenn Жыл бұрын
I have a Specialised Tarmac SLR4 (with Shimano Ultegra which is not a great fit as it used PF press fit Adaptors that seemed to constantly squeak after 3-4 months use - so needed to be replaced often - to fit a Shimano 6750 Compact Ultegra crank to a OSBB Tarmac SL4 frameset we used a WMPF30OUT1 Wheels-Manufacturing PF30 To Outboard ABEC-3 Bearings 24mm - similar to the one-piece BB unit you are showing - the results have been exceptional - hate to say I can feel increased watt output but ... I can - it seems there was some frictional resistance in the older PF Adaptors with the Crank that increased as they wore out - perhaps it is psychological as well - hearing that squeak in your BB seems to sap your energy - this new all-in-one BB system has proved to be the correct way to tackle this problem - converting to SRAM was a better option but too costly
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Nice. The Wheels BB is 2 piece thread together, but it is a good in between option. It has worked for you. 👍
@nellyx1x493
@nellyx1x493 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have the same frame as you and tried a couple of 30-24 step down adapter options that didn't work sufficiently- the correct tolerances between the two are seemingly impossible to achieve, when ideally the adapter should be a proper press-fit itself but for assembly practicality it has to be slip fit. Once the adapter gets a bit worn it wont prevent the crank from rocking or squeaking like a quacking duck. The solution you found is the best one.. I have similar good results from the praxisworks bb30-24 unit- the only problem comes when it's time to remove it, hammer time.... the Hambini converter is the ultimate. I noticed the better stiffness from the outward bearing too, which is daft from a super stiff frame hobbled by the too narrow bb30 (OSBB) stance...
@mislevis
@mislevis Жыл бұрын
I had same problem with my BMC and Hambini BB few years ago.
@jochem1986
@jochem1986 Жыл бұрын
The aero extensions come with a bare metal strip that can be used for fitting them at the correct location every time. They cause the extensions to be at a perfect distance repeatedly.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Yes. But we just wrapped the tape to that point, because the bar is quite inconvenient.
@maniastrat
@maniastrat Жыл бұрын
Great video Thanks! Your customer is very lucky to have such a conscientious builder/shop to deal with! That aside Holy Smokes!! A bike that price with those problems? Also the price in itself for that TeamMachine something made in Taiwan... is insane IMHO 😉I always thought they must be Swiss made at that crazy price. In any case "you" do beautiful work 👍
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike.
@acckids
@acckids Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable and informative
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
🙏
@alexbennett2709
@alexbennett2709 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and really enjoying your content. Keep it up.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex. Spread the word ☺️
@stuartbennett4476
@stuartbennett4476 Жыл бұрын
Nice job 👏🏻 Prices charged Vs quality delivered is shocking from the bike industry
@hughstultz7849
@hughstultz7849 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the essence of Hambini’s critiques if you look past the expletives. A round hole that’s supposed to be 40.8mm should be exactly that, especially at the prices we are being asked to pay.
@larisonjohnson
@larisonjohnson Жыл бұрын
Great Video! I really appreciate the commitment to the customer and making it work. Well done! I love the education! Hope the customer loves the bike!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
I hope so too! Quite nervous now.
@stevenkates4876
@stevenkates4876 Жыл бұрын
Please analyze the ENVE Melee. It uses a KOGE threaded BB. I have this bike and if you like Ferrari Lamborghini McLaren Ducati Big Wave Surfing; this bike is for you. Love your channel. Thanks for the content.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
We had an enve in. They wouldn’t let us review it. Waiting for a customer to bring us one.
@davidramez6219
@davidramez6219 Жыл бұрын
BMC inventory for size 51 is very difficult to find at local shops. When you finally find a shop that has it, they can't ship it.
@stevenfinocchio2964
@stevenfinocchio2964 9 ай бұрын
I have an SLR01 Five that I put a Kogel BB in and less than a year later the bearings feel quite rough even though I rarely ride in bad weather, pretty sure it's due to the same issue you found with this frame. I remember it being quite difficult to press in and if I remember correctly the "frame guide" that came with the bearing drifts I bought from Kogel did not fit into the frame so I'm probably going to end up doing the same honing process in the spring. If I lived in the UK I would certainly have you work on my bike, thanks for a great video and the honest assessment.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 9 ай бұрын
Oh wow. You ignored the tight fitting gage they provided. Eek. Did you get them back out the frame ok?
@stevenfinocchio2964
@stevenfinocchio2964 9 ай бұрын
@@Mapdec I haven't tried to remove the bottom bracket yet but I replaced the bearings for a temporary fix, I'm sure it won't be easy to get out but Kogel gives you a waterproof grease for the install rather than a retaining compound it should be doable. I tried asking a few of my local bike shops if they would be willing to ream out the frame for me but so far nobody wants to do it. The honing process seems easy enough but may I ask what you used to wet the stones? Looks like soapy water but I don't want to assume anything.
@SrFederico
@SrFederico Жыл бұрын
I wish I lived near your shop.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
🥰
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 Жыл бұрын
i always take out the inner seals of the bb bearings since they come with duel sides but the inside of the bearings isnt exposed to anything, then ill clean out the thick grease and replace it with oil. also no / light contact seals seem to do the job rather than contact seals. easy and free gains when spending so much time and money for a race bike. its massively more of an improvement than buying ceramic bearings and its free. as a reference, the drive side crank arm of my shimano crank pendulums 4-5 times when dropping it from the 12 oclock position, with both arms installed. compare that to some that dont even drop and you can feel the resistance on every pedal stroke, i believe that adds up to a substantial amount over time
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
This is a great option. Lots of hill climbers and TT do this.
@WowRixter
@WowRixter Жыл бұрын
Very thorough and great attention to detail. The undersized BB shell is quite the surprise. Also does BMC make anything in Switzerland?
@cccpkingu
@cccpkingu Жыл бұрын
Prototypes maybe. This said "Made in Taiwan" underneath the BB on a sticker.
@WowRixter
@WowRixter Жыл бұрын
@@cccpkingu I noticed that and was a bit surprised for their flagship frame
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
They haven’t made in Switzerland for decades.
@mikebrewer1346
@mikebrewer1346 Жыл бұрын
They did build their Impec frames in a Swiss factory for a period c.2010. No idea when that operation ceased.
@neilrobinson7965
@neilrobinson7965 Жыл бұрын
What about the Masterpiece frames? Are they made in Switzerland?
@alanhielsing6973
@alanhielsing6973 3 ай бұрын
I didn't only saw the video, I proved my British pronounce with you man...
@taavinen
@taavinen Жыл бұрын
Interested to see if you hear from BMC on this one given the spec of the frame
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
I’ll let you all know.
@donwinston
@donwinston Жыл бұрын
I believe being able to specify frame size, stem length, and crank length is very important. I find it unbelievable that a mail order business like Canyon won't let you do this.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Me too. I feel this is a fundamental of bike sales.
@samueltrumpy4433
@samueltrumpy4433 Жыл бұрын
I just finished building up the exact same frameset and have to say, the bb area is really bad. I already built quite a few of direct chinese brands and have never had such a poor spinning crankset after installing. Maybe it is because I used the standard shimano bb? I had to push the crankset in pretty hard. Thinking about changing the bb already. Maybe to a threadfit? Would you have one to recon for that frame and shimano 24mm crank? Other then that, the frame is built really nicely, like you mentioned, perfect fork and nice guidance inside the frame for the brake hoses and everything. I built it with the ics fully integrated handlebar and that was actually a nightmare! Compared to a directly chinese fully integraded handlebar, that bmc branded thing which costs 5 times the price, it‘s actually embarrassing how bad of a build it is. I hope it at least rides perfect! Thanks for the video and the insights! Greetings from Switzerland.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
If you had to press the crankset in hard… stop, pull it back out, remove the BB and figure out why the cranks was hard to install. Often the compliance in Shimano BB hide a multitude of sins, but this sounds tight.
@samueltrumpy4433
@samueltrumpy4433 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec thank you very much for that quick answer. I actually could install everything and ust testrode it. It works perfectly, no creacking, nothing. So you still think I should get the bb out then? I didn‘t habe to hammer it in or so, just give a little bit of a hard knock with the hands..
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Depends how good you want it to be, or how long it lasts.
@veloaddict
@veloaddict Жыл бұрын
The illusion that if you pay more you get better.
@hschofield82
@hschofield82 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work!!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thanks you Hugh
@graemehill
@graemehill Жыл бұрын
With these non-circular steerer tubes that a lot of modern bikes have how exactly does the stem attach? Is it like D shaped seat posts where you don't have to get the seatpost alignment right because it only fits in a single orientation? I'm wondering whether there's a higher damage risk if you crash. With a normal stem/steerer it's common for the handlebars to go out of alignment in a crash but that's better than breaking the steerer or handlebar.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
There are semi circular inserts. The stem would still rotate around them.
@graemehill
@graemehill Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec good to know thanks
@neilk22
@neilk22 Жыл бұрын
Some rare skills there, not many bike shops with this type of time and attention to detail available. I wander if carbon frames and carbon epoxy are not susceptible to minor defects, it’s quite organic to plug prepreg into a mould vs alloy which is more of a mechanical science .
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Yes. Prepreg layup is quite an art. Done badly and you get voids or lots off additional material to compensate. RTM like Time and 3T uses is generally better to eliminate voids and give more creativity in the weave.
@jasondurand4049
@jasondurand4049 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Really informative. Do you know if the BMC 2-piece bar and stem can be used on other non-BMC frames?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
There might be a few with the cut out steerer tubes. Might need a lot of checking though. I doubt you would get all the fairings if the headset to line up
@valmorell
@valmorell Жыл бұрын
I like to see a little bit of play in head bearing seats. Without play, the bearing can be very slightly off centre which makes it next to impossible to get the head bearings to stay tight without overloading them
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
There is more than enough for that.
@galenkehler
@galenkehler Жыл бұрын
There are quite a few nice options in non-DuB cranks, you don't need to be held hostage by sram's choice if you want a better bearing
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Help us on this one. Power meter crank set on SRAM ratios and 24mm axle ???
@galenkehler
@galenkehler Жыл бұрын
Sorry if this is duplicated, can't see the other comment: Rotor Aldhu makes a 24mm axle, and you can use a variety of power meters. I use the Power2Max spiders, with a 104bcd on my gravel bike (using a road Aldhu crank)
@TheKryztiandivor
@TheKryztiandivor Жыл бұрын
Good idea to fix the bottom bracket Yourself, because a new frame from the factory would most likely have the same problem. 👍
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Yeah. My thoughts too. I would have to rebuild the bike, send it back, argued the toss, start again…. The issue is as common as over painted BSA faces that need facing off. Just fix it and move on.
@Boyiobikes
@Boyiobikes Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Bike, thank you again for sharing this with us. I noticed how thin the material is around the BB, is this a common thing on high end race bikes? I love how beefy my Domane is around the T47, gives me lots of confidence its not likely to crakc/break where in my mind all the stress is?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
There is tons of material down there compared to some. You should see a super six 😳
@DnDMF
@DnDMF Жыл бұрын
This is a hell of informative video and educational. Thank you for the detailed procedure. Quick question: can the second void evolve into a crack?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Highly unlikely, it’s just like a little bubble where it was in contact with the mould. If the factory had done their job we would be none the wiser to its existence.
@DnDMF
@DnDMF Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec thank you again
@MrSzwarz
@MrSzwarz Жыл бұрын
For over 4K this is uacceptable frameset quality.
@BikeLife154
@BikeLife154 Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking from the beginning.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
For a tiny bit of paint and 0.02 mm.. even the best HyperCars and planes get a little finishing from a mechanic / fitter. This video should highlight the value a good shop brings, not that the frame is worthless.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 10 ай бұрын
@@Mapdecthe void in the BB area is problematic in terms of BMC Quality Control. The least they could have done is fill the void with epoxy and face the ID. Just a bad look at a minimum.
@AntonStensby
@AntonStensby Жыл бұрын
You could try to get hold of a Sram AXS GXP crankset. I have been using that in my bb86 frame, super smooth.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Yes. That would be a great choice. They do still make them to match that groupset too.
@AntonStensby
@AntonStensby Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec I think Sram specifically offered them for the Trek BB90 which can’t physically fit a DUB axle. So thanks (?) to Trek I guess for making a horrible bottom bracket standard.
@DanTuber
@DanTuber Жыл бұрын
Job well done. Attention to details. But what would happen if you shaved too much carbon in the BB and made it oversized?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
I would have to pay for a new frame.
@neilrobinson7965
@neilrobinson7965 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec do bike workshops generally have liability insurance in case of a mistake or something breaking? Very scary attempting potentially risky repairs otherwise?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
@@neilrobinson7965 oh god yes!
@72-vintage
@72-vintage Жыл бұрын
Amazing build, Got the same issue with my zipp rear wheel, Any chance of a bit more info on what ya done to rectify the issue please
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
I did a little short on it. Strip it. Clean off all the excess grease. Check bearings are pressed in all the way. Install wavy circlip correctly. Rebuild with just small smear of sram butter. Mineral oil bath on foam ring. Mineral oil between ratchets.
@enuazeal
@enuazeal Жыл бұрын
beautiful bike :) one question, what is your favorite bar tape (using it on most builds)?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
We like tape like the Fabric Knurl Tape. Lots of brands make similar. Slightly rubberised, gel backed.
@olekmehera7256
@olekmehera7256 Жыл бұрын
300 quid max they paid for the frame and the poor bloke got shafted, well done for sorting it at least! The paintjob is sick as well!
@meneldil7604
@meneldil7604 Жыл бұрын
£300 frame with a £3000 paint job as are most top frames the samller brand tend to try harder cos thay cant aford the bad press
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
More like a £4000 frame and the final QC is on minimum wage, and drunk.
@terrywalker7127
@terrywalker7127 Жыл бұрын
I still get confused on bottom brackets. I see this one is not treaded? Had it been threaded, could you have fixed it? Your shop it top of the line. Wish we had such customer oriented mechanics as you.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Yes. Fixing threaded BB is an everyday task of a bike shop.
@universe-juice
@universe-juice Жыл бұрын
Good man!
@diehardbikes
@diehardbikes Жыл бұрын
Personally in regards to the power meters: i think that if they made the power meter removable that would be a great upgrade. If they used a torx bolt system that might be they way to go. Or maybe a chinch system. Just some ideas. It is true that if you dont tighten them properly readings will be off, but its just the same as the chainrings tightened to the arm, in that case. So no real difference.
@ChlorophyllCrusher
@ChlorophyllCrusher 28 күн бұрын
Am I right in thinking brands allocate their best (wrt QC) frames to frame-only sales, and the rest to become completes? I’ve suspected this for a long time…. If common practice, in fact, might we surmise that companies that are not selling frame-only don’t do good enough QC to pull it off?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 28 күн бұрын
I wish it were that simple. I think it just comes down the training and ethics of the QC inspector that day.
@klosenorway
@klosenorway Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I have a similar bike, and i want to remove a few spacers. I’ve heard that this is not possible without also cutting the fork? I do not have a one pice handlebar/stem but a similar system to what you fitted on this bike. Thanks
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
It is possible to adjust without cutting, but you need to find a spacer that will sit in the recess at the top cap.
@klosenorway
@klosenorway Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec Many thanks!
@neilrobinson7965
@neilrobinson7965 Жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you Neil
@TroggyPK
@TroggyPK Жыл бұрын
just a quick fyi from a local bike shop mechanic, i agree barely any bike shop would go this far with a bike build simply because we dont have the time to spend an entire day on one bike, through any day we're maybe tuning up some 15-20 bikes as a small shop and all of these bikes are basically apollo/carrera bike shaped objects that people cannot simply afford to replace. i fully understand a boutique shop selling only £4000 to £14,000 frame builds should be doing this wih every bike but your average bike shop selling family bikes simply do not have the time or the staff to be spending a full day completely stripping a new bike down and rebuilding it as a part of the PDI process its simply not economical or profitable on bikes that sell to 98% of the market which are well under the £1000 mark.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Aye. Those bikes don’t really need it. For years Park Tool etc have made quick easy tools for that use. I assume you have a frame alignment gage, hanger alignment gage, dropout gage and a some frame taps and tools to hand if you need them.
@stickmenkissarmy6907
@stickmenkissarmy6907 9 ай бұрын
Super work, I still like shimano 🎉🎉🎉😊
@brendangormley-e3x
@brendangormley-e3x 10 күн бұрын
I know you’ve done this video over a yr ago and I’m only watching it now. But one question for you. The fit for the bottom bracket is perfect after reaming and you aligned it by using 400 grit sand paper. But how do you know when you assemble the bottom bracket that it’s actually sitting square through the frame. The fit can be good and the two holes either side of the frame aligned but it could still be off square?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 10 күн бұрын
Keep watching the channel. There are plenty to get into. We use a combo of parallels, a jig we have made and the park tool reaming tool. We also discuss bearing clearances and retain compound to set alignment. Happy viewing
@Jerzj
@Jerzj Жыл бұрын
Fantastic attitude as a shop! I own ‘20 SLR01 and must say I live riding the bike, but ie original replacement bearings quality from BMC is just unacceptable. Paint is also very soft and scratches easily. But still, really like the bike :)
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jerzy. I hope the paint on this one is good. It looks amazing. The rich red really doesn’t show on camera
@aljaliah6868
@aljaliah6868 Жыл бұрын
Where is the BMC actually mad (Switzerland) ? And how does it compare to the LOOK BLASE RS which I believe is made in Tunisia ?.................................as usual, TOP video !!!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Made in Tiwan I think the sticker showed. Compared to the Blade RS. Very similar weight and general build quality. BMC let themselves down here with the fine details of the final quality check.
@aljaliah6868
@aljaliah6868 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec LOOK wins, and it’s a grand cheaper 😛
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
@@aljaliah6868 if only they had some to sell… new Blade RS coming this summer.
@aljaliah6868
@aljaliah6868 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec Indeed. The dealer I bought mine from (full bike) tells me the new ones are not as impressive/pretty as the outgoing one. I know where there is one frameset for sale, too big for me unfortunately being that it is XL (matt black with that little red) but if you have a customer that wants one please let me know.
@bikesavvy3654
@bikesavvy3654 Жыл бұрын
A full race bike but selecting a equivalent 50-34. Better chain line staying well clear of that 10 cog
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
It’s all relative to w/kg and weight of bike / weight or rider
@Jam789
@Jam789 Жыл бұрын
Professional
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
We try
@flipooh
@flipooh Жыл бұрын
Wow!! Done to perfection but disappointed with BMC in this instance. I did have a BMC SLR01 which I was really pleased in the past. I think at that money bike manufacturers should be charged for wasting time. There are far too many cases of these problematic bottom bracket otherwise you or Hambini wouldn’t be banging on about it.
@global_nomad.
@global_nomad. Жыл бұрын
great video, thank you, but does make me want to travel half way across the country to use you.....and unfortunately thats not going to happen...so will continue to debate which is my 'best' LBS. At least I'm in London, but that means they are (all) too busy to devote extra time to this level of care and attention.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
I heard that London gets busy. Haven’t been for years. Lots of McDonalds if if remember. Thanks for the kind words. Maybe we will see you on a trip to the Lake District one day.
@jimbo9030
@jimbo9030 Жыл бұрын
Curious as to why you chose wired blips on the extensions rather than wireless blips? Mounting can be an issue but SRAM have a made available for free download STLs of different mounting adapters to easily 3D print these.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Less batteries. Preferred ergonomics.
@dogukantosun5547
@dogukantosun5547 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mapdec, what is the best spinning BB standard in your opinion?
@sabamacx
@sabamacx Жыл бұрын
Even the cheapest $10 Shimano BB's spin beautifully provided the frame is manufactured and prepared correctly.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
BB standard for best spin??? Probably BB65. Let’s not go there. With enough accuracy a Shimano Ultegra BB will spin perfectly well. Lots of track cyclists still use octolink etc too.
@JibbaJabber
@JibbaJabber Жыл бұрын
BMC - r u watching?? Everyone else - you've been warned!
@Onigure
@Onigure Жыл бұрын
I'm still amazed a 46t chainring exists, even use it for racing. I have much to learn about gearing.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Remember there is a little 10t back there.
@galenkehler
@galenkehler Жыл бұрын
As Mapdec says, with the inclusion of the 10t cog they're expecting you to go smaller in the front. Multiply the front by 10% to get the rough equivalent, so a 46t will ride roughly equivalent to a 50-51t on a traditional cassette (11-xx)
@Glebaka
@Glebaka Жыл бұрын
@@galenkehler i dont think that any of pros keen on using 10t cog as its not efficient
@galenkehler
@galenkehler Жыл бұрын
@@Glebaka 1. You're absolutely right and the 10t sucks. 2. In the video, it was stated that the user was both low power and low weight, so inefficiency will be a pretty small consideration, especially if they're looking for lower gears they probably won't even use the 10 or 11 tooth cogs, and certainly not in a high power situation. 3. I totally agree with you, and I don't think I'd ever run a 10t cog, I dont even like 11
@nellyx1x493
@nellyx1x493 Жыл бұрын
10tooth cog has no place on a road bike. Have it on the mtb, and you can feel through the pedals that it shouldn't be trusted - it's ok for mtb, but wouldn't want to be putting the meat down through the pedals on road in that gear. Ok for bimbling though I suppose. Bigger chainrings give a noticeably smoother pedal feel anyway, something you notice going from standard to compact, so why anyone would want to go even smaller is beyond me. What this is, is brands having to reinvent the wheel every so often to stay relevant.
@okantichrist
@okantichrist Жыл бұрын
So when your chainrings wear out that’s your power meter in the bin as well??
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Yes. However these are not your cheesy Shimano or FSA rings. They are considerably more durable. It’s not perfect, but there are lots of pros and cons to the argument, about as many as every other powermeter. I’m going to have to do a vid I think.
@bigwave_dave8468
@bigwave_dave8468 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant work. It seems very poor of BMC to sell such an exotic bike and not check fundamental things (bb and rear cassette operation) Note to self...oh, nevermind, I wasn't going to buy it anyway :-)
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 Жыл бұрын
I''m definitely going to buy a titanium frame in the future. You can''t even trust a 4.000 pounds carbon frame!
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Don’t assume that it will be perfect because it’s Ti. It’s a really hard material to weld. Few do it well.
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec I'm sure if it's near that prize tag, that frame would outlive me, if there's no crash involved.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Did you see the Zinn vid?
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec No. Watching it right now. Thanks!
@harleypurcell7766
@harleypurcell7766 Ай бұрын
Tyre logos not lined up with the valves… whats going on?? 😂
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 Жыл бұрын
You don't epoxy the bare carbon that's exposed after honing? I get that its a race bike, but water drips down the seat post and enters into the pressfit BB interface and it will fray the carbon. I'm sure most manufacturers just hone already cured carbon which is why creaking sets in eventually
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Lol. The carbon was bare before honing. There is no clear coat or anything down there. Never is. The resin impregnates at every level if anything frays it’s because there are voids. Water shouldn’t be able to enter any part. It should be a solid of carbon and resin. Made well you can machine, cut and grind carbon. Steerer tubes are a good example. So much fear and misunderstanding arround Carbon. No wonder mechanics are afraid to touch it and let undersized junk out onto the unsuspecting public.
@richardhaselwood9478
@richardhaselwood9478 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, my $1800 Australian, 2018 Giant Fathom, passed the crank spin test quite nicely (Shimano PF BB, so, 24mm axle). Gah..... This is why I'm not tempted by BMC.... Sticking to Giant and Merida bikes. Excellent warranty, easy to get replacements. Excellent QA (generally). But, otherwise, what a build :)
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Жыл бұрын
The best way to deal with Sram DUB is to avoid Sram DUB.
@_Zane__
@_Zane__ Жыл бұрын
Hah, is sram that bad?
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Жыл бұрын
@@_Zane__ not _that_ bad, but it's just nothing you can do about it.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
But then… Shimano Power meter 🫣
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Жыл бұрын
@@Mapdec there are plenty of other powermeters for Shimano axle... At the worst Sram still has GXP, if you want to remain true to the brand. As you shown, 30mm axles are no good fit for 41mm bores
@justinharrington6335
@justinharrington6335 Жыл бұрын
Worst thing about sram is when u need to maintain it. Badly designed and crap. Used force and rival 1x.
@gregoxenham2842
@gregoxenham2842 Жыл бұрын
Good vid.
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@rodcosta2345
@rodcosta2345 Жыл бұрын
Either that's the smallest 51 ever or you're related to Sasquatch... which is it?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
It’s a 51cm
@mohamadkhanafer7978
@mohamadkhanafer7978 2 ай бұрын
Should I be worried regarding the bottom bracket? What would be a good solution, I’d like this bike to last as long as possible
@Mapdec
@Mapdec 2 ай бұрын
The solution is just to check it and fix it if you need.
@mohamadkhanafer7978
@mohamadkhanafer7978 2 ай бұрын
@@Mapdec how often does a press fit bottom bracket need to be changed? I put in about 2000 miles a year. And how do I maintain it if there’s any maintenance at all
@seanmccuen6970
@seanmccuen6970 11 ай бұрын
merely attends to the common pragmatic details of a build from A-Z, then calls it 'gucci'. lolol, more power to ya.
@NeoPayneHK
@NeoPayneHK Жыл бұрын
so if you want a perfect dream build one of the option is just go to MCW and talk with them right?
@Mapdec
@Mapdec Жыл бұрын
Always
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