Improving Unit Training

[@LFAnon]

This is why it's so important to vet your group members.

[@ethme7648]

Theres a reason why the good frats haze

[@charlesl5226]

As well as the head “instructor”

[@markbeasley5322]

"We've always done it this way and we'll always do it this way."

[@firstimeshooter6590]

Was just literally finishing a workout with a friend of mine today and we were talking about getting the rest of the guys to start moving.

[@SmartAss4123]

Its not just about vetting, its also about helping the newer people who are genuinely trying to get better. If you want more qualified people, its always better to actually take in the people actually trying to be better

[@firstimeshooter6590]

@ 100%

[@The_Flying_Arrowz369]

That’s right can’t just jump in and think you can go hard without having had trained beforehand. I do solar installs and it’s hard work on the roof lol like you said with patrol, even “regular” routine would crack someone who hasn’t been training

[@billmcdowell4826]

Funny you say that. I remember being in the reserves and having PT. I was in shape. But there were reservists that would have had heart attacks if they did PT. So many of them would get a furlough. You need to take responsibility for physical fitness and look the part of a soldier, not a slob in uniform

[@Sirilere]

One of your best!

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

Well said!

[@dteachout147]

My question is how do you go about finding a group in your area? The few guys around me who are into this don't take training very seriously

[@Sanguinista.Daywalker]

Ditto...

[@sharwama992]

Just do tactics. CQB, Battle Drills, patrols/formations.

[@gunnersecuador7515]

I have the same issue here in AZ. Plenty of guys will stand around in the A/C sucking down their $8.00 starbucks and TALK about training, but when it comes time to hit the desert, I get the standard, "My wife she, my kids they, my dog it" routine. Many won't even show for the fun stuff; range day, night shoots, battle drills, small unit tactics etc! I have one guy who is willing to make the sacrifice and devote time to training! One, out of thirty!....

[@dteachout147]

@@sharwama992 yeah... they're too afraid that someone will see them.

[@TannerSwizel]

Couldn't agree more, individual training is for an individual's time for any kind of volunteer setup from fire fighters to war fighters. Group time is for group training. If people within the group can't make the cut then I could see about pulling them to the side and showing them how to do a program at home, but that's instructive work not busy body time killer work. Two hours of "hurry up and wait" football talk isn't useful either. Standing around waiting for a coordinator to initiate just means he was too lazy to a send out some kind of program the rest of the team could initiate or failed to set expectations of performing some set of group tasks everyone already knows how to do but can't effectively practice on their own, and doesn't require a coordinator. If a team can't self coordinate without their leaders then they aren't a team, but just a middle school class on a field trip.

[@twinarrowssurvival.2.065]

Solid knowledge transfer brother thanks for the info...

[@jaredspitzer3382]

Lmao sounds like ever militia training ever

[@davidpeck7455]

What kinds of GROUP drills and exercises would you make a priority to work on when guys gather?

[@peasant1381]

Casualty evac training - group PT with a purpose.

[@78tooth83]

I agree PT is an important but individual thing in this setting. My group recently conducted a 4 mile patrol training event with 500 to 700 FT elevation change. Most of us do PT but found we need to do more cardio.

[@zippitydoohdangtwang]

Back in the day (not US military; in Africa), prior to offensive long-range missions, we practised our combat drills and formations at a slow relaxed walk dressed in shorts and track shoes. Over and over. Slowly. If guys are huffing and puffing they are not focussed on memorising the important stuff. Generic skills and fitness should have been beaten into you a lot earlier in your career

[@sharwama992]

Rhodesia?

[@sharwama992]

What country and unit did you serve under

[@zippitydoohdangtwang]

@ Not Rhodesia, the beginning of my career coincided approximately with the end of Rhodesia. But I did go there subsequently when they were under new management. And operated a quite lot next door in Zambia. I was based very close to both those countries, in the Caprivi.

[@AlphaCharlieConcepts]

What? No split time & 1-R-1 drills?

[@acem82]

Market actors have to be smart, because people will leave if they're not. Military actors don't have to care, because you can't leave. Don't do what the military does in the private sector, because the military is rewarded for inefficiency.

[@sharwama992]

Hey Bro, Could you make a MOUT Video🙏 There's plenty of CQB training videos online but very little on Platoon level MOUT drills or Urban Movement Techniques. This is much needed info, and there's a huge gap on KZbin especially for us Civilians without a ME or LE background on KZbin.

[@pagewright7278]

Got the basics of land nav, learned that in scouts. Got the basic manual of arms learned that hunting and at range. Training needs to focus on upgrading all of these skills.

[@Valorius]

Shared!

[@twinarrowssurvival.2.065]

@@Valorius Same

[@dontcallmesircallmesurvivor]

Love this

[@WileyE.Coyote-i7c]

Lol. I said same things when i did my reserve time. Told them what they were doing was terribly ineffective, and that if the true event happens that that reserve unit woild be being deployed, the things they were doing was going to get troops killed. IE my job was a combat arms job, i was sent to a reserve unit closer to my home at the time, and 45% of the guys in the unit were cooks, 88 mikes, crane operators, basically a logistics unit, the other 55% combat arms jobs, for 12 months of drills, i never saw a weapon, we changed brakes on trucks, we unloaded swept and reloaded cages, and stood around in formations. And we did PT 2 times in that 12 months I asked to be put on IRR early....

[@martinbowman1993]

I was watching a youtube channel episode about a guy explaining how he took an Homeless course for world ending times and this morning I was watching another channel do a review on a post-apocalyptic LARP called Wasteland Weekend. It got me thinking I wonder how much training is just a jerk off LARP to monetize dummies and how much scenario training is actually training? and what constitutes effective training? Training is supposed to inform your reality with reality so that it improves not just your proformance expectations but also outcomes in a meaningful way. Although a lot of it seems to be action faking.

[@patrickcarnahan5493]

I have been attending Milsim West events as training, and if you take it seriously, it can be a pretty realisitc FTX. I would recommend maybe trying it sometime! I would love to hear your thoughts.

[@Sanguinista.Daywalker]

shared.

[@jeffcooper9363]

Too bad that training org wasn't more professional

[@zplitterz]

What state/area was this training held?

[@skylongskylong1982]

So how many weeks does it take to train a recruit in National Guard in basic military skills ?

[@DeathFromAbove_5.56]

You don’t want to be a nasty girl

[@jeredhersh789]

​@@DeathFromAbove_5.56look into AGR and federal technician jobs that the guard gets, and you might just change your mind

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

Screening and tests help sort out who can use the individual skills appropriately so you don't have to drag the slowest person around.....

[@GFox-tp5hh]

At least he didn't try to make y'all do log pt

[@warriorwolf77]

imo if weapons are brought up at all for something you're doing it wrong, the vast majority of it has nothing to do with a gun so besides carrying them that's all that it should be. "I can shoot a gun" cool they shot you a mile off cause you're shit at camouflage and movement or you didn't get the chance to shoot them because you didn't know land nav and you went to the wrong place

[@GruntProof]

Exactly. In my patrolling course weapons aren't needed or required

[@warriorwolf77]

@GruntProof the problem is people want to do the fun run and gun stuff more than they want to learn, short term dopamine, the illusion of doing rather than actually doing, you've said about the same sort of thing with your physical fitness business I think.

[@ronaldbobeck9636]

Sage advise given to me before I left for Active duty in 1971.when you can HIDE.