In 2003 We Discovered a New Way to Generate Primes

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Eric Rowland

Eric Rowland

Күн бұрын

There is a Fibonacci-like recurrence that seems to generate primes! It was discovered in 2003, but at the time no one understood why it worked. A few years later, I plotted the primes in a way that reveals some hidden structure. This is a tale of logarithmic scale.
Followup video on this sequence: • Why Does this Generate...
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References:
Fernando Chamizo, Dulcinea Raboso, and Serafín Ruiz-Cabello, On Rowland's Sequence, The Electronic Journal of Combinatorics 18(2) (2011) P10 (10 pages).
doi.org/10.37236/2006
Benoit Cloitre, 10 conjectures in additive number theory (2011) (46 pages).
arxiv.org/abs/1101.4274
Eric Rowland, A natural prime-generating recurrence, Journal of Integer Sequences 11 (2008) 08.2.8 (13 pages).
cs.uwaterloo.ca/journals/JIS/...
Serafín Ruiz-Cabello, On the use of the least common multiple to build a prime-generating recurrence, International Journal of Number Theory 13 (2017) 819-833.
doi.org/10.1142/S179304211750...
Open access: arxiv.org/abs/1504.05041
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0:00 Recurrence
2:59 Doubling relations
4:03 Plotting locations of primes
6:24 Clusters of primes
9:49 Predicting primes in each cluster
15:22 Answers to burning questions
18:19 Changing the initial term
20:08 Cloitre's lcm recurrence
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Thanks to Ken Emmer for supplying the microphone.
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@sobertillnoon
@sobertillnoon Жыл бұрын
We haven't used the Richter scale since 1970. The current measurement scale is called the moment magnitude scale.
@studytime2570
@studytime2570 Жыл бұрын
btw whats the notable difference between richter scale and moment magnitude. And today will still say "that was a 6.3 magnitude earthquake". So is it not richter?
@sobertillnoon
@sobertillnoon Жыл бұрын
@@studytime2570 the Richter scale was designed to be used in California. For reasons that are beyond my level of geological knowledge it didn't map onto other regions. So a global scale was created. To the last question: yes.
@Bob-ik1jj
@Bob-ik1jj Жыл бұрын
@@studytime2570 Only the moment magnitude scale is capable of measuring magnitude 8 and greater events accurately. Additionally, the Richter scale was calculated for only one type of earthquake wave.
@multiarray2320
@multiarray2320 Жыл бұрын
i just read in wikipedia about this. this blew my mind.
@dannygjk
@dannygjk Жыл бұрын
Richter is still used. You speak as if Richter has never been used since 1970. What is your first language?
@vnever9078
@vnever9078 Жыл бұрын
Bro so based he makes expository math videos based off of his own research. Chad.
@MalcolmCooks
@MalcolmCooks Жыл бұрын
when you don't get invited to Numberphile "Fine, I'll do it myself."
@iamjohnrobot
@iamjohnrobot Жыл бұрын
Chad-adic and fantastic
@nickmaiorino4744
@nickmaiorino4744 Жыл бұрын
​@@iamjohnrobot You mean, 'p'-Chad-adic and fantastic! 😄😎
@spellignerror8998
@spellignerror8998 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's not the meaning of based 🤔 still a good video
@anntakamaki1960
@anntakamaki1960 Жыл бұрын
Vishwaguru math video developer
@AbyssPog
@AbyssPog Жыл бұрын
Damn, I wish every research paper could be explained in a digestible video format like this. Great video!
@GuzmanTierno
@GuzmanTierno Жыл бұрын
Next step is having chatGPT generate videos like this for every paper ...
@abj136
@abj136 Жыл бұрын
@@GuzmanTierno That would be awful. Because (if you weren’t aware) ChatGPT is very bad at math.
@GuzmanTierno
@GuzmanTierno Жыл бұрын
@@abj136 yeah, you're right ... luckily ...
@dumbidiot1119
@dumbidiot1119 Жыл бұрын
@@abj136 that kinda makes sense tho, chat-gpt is a language model
@suomeaboo
@suomeaboo Жыл бұрын
@@abj136 For now. Give it a few years.
@curious_one1156
@curious_one1156 Жыл бұрын
20 years later, congrats Eric ! This is awesome. Your own theorem.
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bothieGMX
@bothieGMX Жыл бұрын
@@EricRowland Lol, I don't know your channel, didn't even realize, it was you who wrote the paper ;) Chapeau!
@maximkosey5549
@maximkosey5549 Жыл бұрын
@@EricRowland did somebody prove this theorem ?
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
@@maximkosey5549 Yes, I proved it.
@maximkosey5549
@maximkosey5549 Жыл бұрын
@@EricRowland so you can definitely generate all prime numbers, without gaps ?
@demonicdrn3037
@demonicdrn3037 Жыл бұрын
Yooooo! This is the best way to read papers; by not reading them at all and forcing the author to tell you, in what I assume to be an excruciating lack of detail, what they proved and how. Thank you so much!
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Жыл бұрын
I got the impression that it was more an excruciating overabundance of detail, some of which we could easily have worked out for ourselves.
@oncedidactic
@oncedidactic 7 ай бұрын
@@rosiefay7283perhaps, but it’s a 22m video and we have the whole picture and more, save for some rigorous steps. Tradeoff, sure, but I definitely used my 22 minutes better on the video. That’s probably true for most, even researchers? Thoughts?
@drjacovanniekerk
@drjacovanniekerk Жыл бұрын
Why so few videos? You had me on the edge of my seat from start to finish. Video quality/explanation is spot on. This is "a million subscribers" content.
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thanks! They take a long time to make, but more to come!
@drjacovanniekerk
@drjacovanniekerk Жыл бұрын
@@EricRowland I know! I have a channel for university content and one for Numismatics. Hours and hours of editing. Will keep watching yours.
@michaeldamolsen
@michaeldamolsen 10 ай бұрын
@@drjacovanniekerk Checked your main channel, and subscribed immediately.
@kcthomas9531
@kcthomas9531 8 ай бұрын
How about do a collab with 3b1b? I feel like that would be the quickest way to get a lot of subscribers! @@EricRowland
@snowfloofcathug
@snowfloofcathug 5 ай бұрын
… I didn’t even realise but apparently I’ve seen all the videos, it was just long enough between them for me to not notice
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Жыл бұрын
It must've been very cool to find out that the prime properties of this seemingly arbitrary sequence is related to a very active area of research, namely primes in arithmetic progressions. In particular, I find it really neat that these sorts of questions are playful enough that you could imagine Fermat or Euler studying them, but we can now describe them with our more modern techniques.
@_Wombat
@_Wombat Жыл бұрын
I feel like there is a real question to be had about why humanity finds primes so incredibly interesting. I've watched so many videos about prime numbers and yet I am still hungry for more. Great video :)
@vnever9078
@vnever9078 Жыл бұрын
It isn't for no reason that they are called _prime_ numbers haha
@mohammedsamir5142
@mohammedsamir5142 Жыл бұрын
You should believe in number theory to realize how awesome are the prime numbers
@MasterHigure
@MasterHigure Жыл бұрын
This is a quote from a math book on a mostly unrelated subject, but I feel it fits here too: It's an intriguing mix of pattern and chaos.
@ttrss
@ttrss Жыл бұрын
crypto
@wauwau4896
@wauwau4896 Жыл бұрын
Primes have always fascinated me because they feel like the building blocks of numbers. It's remarkable to think that every other natural number greater than 1 can be decomposed into a unique product of primes. It's almost as if primes are the elemental components of the number system, much like atoms are the fundamental building blocks of matter. This fundamental property of primes is what makes them so intriguing and important for us humans. At least that is what I think.
@user-tn2dk2pg2p
@user-tn2dk2pg2p Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone's posted the reason as to why 3 is the second number in every cluster, so for those curious, it's stems from the fact that every index with nontrivial gcd is either 0 or 2 mod 3. This comes from simple induction: the first index indeed satisfies the condition, and if the previous index n was 0 mod 3 then 2n-1 isn't divisible by 3, so the smallest prime p dividing it is -1 or 1 mod 6, leading to the new index being (p-1)/2=0 or 2 mod 3 more than the previous one; likewise, if the previous index n was 2 mod 3, then 2n-1 is divisible by 3, so the next index shifts by (3-1)/2=1, making it 0 mod 3. Because of that, when we get to an index t that makes 2t-1 prime, 2t-1 is also the index of that prime (since the index goes from t to t+(2t-1-1)/2=2t-1), and since the index is prime and more than 3, it isn't 0 mod 3, so it's 2 mod 3, leading to the next number 2(2t-1)-1 in the sequence being 2*2-1=0 mod 3 i.e. the number after the prime must be 3.
@oncedidactic
@oncedidactic 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the nice walkthrough. The mod3 sequencing has the same flavor to me as Syracuse sequences. It seems like there is something about mod3 carrying information that pops up in recursion that’s not coincidental.
@andreasmaaan
@andreasmaaan 7 ай бұрын
@Eric Rowland, in the three videos you've created so far, your ability to explain mathematical concepts with clarity and insight is remarkable. I really hope this there is (a lot) more to come!
@EricRowland
@EricRowland 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! There are more videos to come. (They just take a long time to make!)
@andreasmaaan
@andreasmaaan 7 ай бұрын
@@EricRowland very happy to hear (and completely understand!) :)
@AssemblyWizard
@AssemblyWizard Жыл бұрын
I first saw the last pair you highlighted, 121403 & 242807, then I went looking for the same relation and found the others
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@oleble3317
@oleble3317 Жыл бұрын
@@EricRowland first one I noticed was the 233 and 467 pair and I then confirmed on the bigger ones
@RSLT
@RSLT Жыл бұрын
Super interesting, high-quality, and creative video. Fantastic Job! I have been looking to see a beautiful method like this for many years.
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@sixhundredandfive7123
@sixhundredandfive7123 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for telling me to look at the patterns myself. Where "...5,3..." occur at such interesting intervals so does where "...7,3..." occurs as well. "5,3,11,3,23,3,47,3" is 8. "5,3,101,3,7,11,3,13,233,467,3" is 12. You can then write them as iteration numbers: "P3,P2,P5,P2,P9,P2,P15,P2" is 8.
@romanbriggs2457
@romanbriggs2457 Жыл бұрын
Math educators like yourself have been invaluable to me. My eyes will glaze over reading the papers you cite, everything goes wavy and the nomenclature makes no sense without help. Watching videos like these, with explanation and animation, the information feels much more natural. I probably won't contribute to advancing the discussion on these topics, but to understand a little more about them without enrolling in a whole degree program makes me fortunate. Thank you
@vitoramim5346
@vitoramim5346 11 ай бұрын
The even more amazing part is that you explained it in a way even I could understand. Great video and congrats for the theorem!
@elfumaonthetube
@elfumaonthetube Жыл бұрын
I love videos about patterns and primes, and this one is among my favorites. Great job, and congrats for giving a theorem your name.
@tylerhaslam2083
@tylerhaslam2083 5 ай бұрын
I love this video! Thanks for making it. I love how it shows the process of conjecturing by poking around in the structures and formulas of the patterns observed. Very nice window into the first steps of mathematical thought.
@bobitsmagic4961
@bobitsmagic4961 Жыл бұрын
That video was absolutly amazing, didnt expect such a high quality from a random youtube video. Well done
@pizzarickk333
@pizzarickk333 Жыл бұрын
very clever and excellent explanation. walking someone through the thoughts your brain went through when solving a problem is my favorite way of teaching.
@francescodero8759
@francescodero8759 Жыл бұрын
it's always nice to see actual progress in abstract mathematics and number theory, keep it up, who knows, maybes someday humanity will discover some relation between these patterns and the riemann hypothesis
@samuelwaller4924
@samuelwaller4924 Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the satisfaction you felt when you discovered all of this. Great job, this is really cool!
@KrasBadan
@KrasBadan Жыл бұрын
Great job! At first I thought that this was too hard for me, but eventually I understood almost everything. So cool.
@SomeoneCommenting
@SomeoneCommenting 4 ай бұрын
If everybody who makes math videos was so concise, clear, and give visual examples that can demonstrate your point so simple and obvious as you do, we would be able to understand a lot of other things much better.
@vanhetgoor
@vanhetgoor Жыл бұрын
While you were talking I had some wonderful ideas. You are an inspiration! Normally I listen to sequential music so that sounds don't interrupt with my flow of thoughts, but this works too! I do not want to give the impression that you are boring, but it comes close, in a polite and gentle manner. My attention drifted away after the first mentioning of Fibonacci, endless lists of numbers, all with a meaning and significance. It is a glorious day, summer is on it's way.
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
This same thing happens to me at conferences. Listening to other people talk about their work (or rather, *not* listening) has given me some great ideas. Interesting social phenomenon!
@tomascortespacheco5703
@tomascortespacheco5703 Жыл бұрын
Your exposition was superb. I really enjoyed the pace of the video, and how it was structured as a `story` that was easy to follow. Suffice to say that you have a solid understanding of manim. Have you considered posting the manim code? It would help a lot manim beginners to further learn how to use it!
@Busterblade20
@Busterblade20 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video. I wish every math paper could be explained in such a wonderful video format like this.
@mikecaetano
@mikecaetano Жыл бұрын
Observed pattern. In the first cluster, 5 is followed by 3. In the next 11 is followed by 3. In the fourth, starting with 47, 5 is again followed by 3. In the fifth, starting with 101, 7 is not followed by 3, but 11 is. 13 is not. Scanning down, it appears that whenever 5 or 11 appear in a cluster they are followed by 3. But this does not appear to hold for 7 and 13 -- which also appear to never occur as the first terms of any cluster. So perhaps for numbers that start clusters, if they reappear in other clusters, they do so followed by 3. And numbers that do not start clusters, if they reappear in other clusters, they do so not followed by 3.
@williamrutherford553
@williamrutherford553 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this is related to Dirichlet progressions. I'm actually doing applied research into finding the upper bound of the first p of the form sn+1, which is MUCH easier to prove the primality of using a deterministic Miller-Rabin test. So far, it looks like p(s) < c*s^L, where L is approximately 2. However, it seems like if you pick an L value > 1, you can find an N such that the bound holds for s>N. I thought it was related, especially due to the clustering in a log-log plot, you get that same kind of behaviour when graphing the strictly increasing subset of s, p(s) (just like ignoring the 1s).
@Asdayasman
@Asdayasman Жыл бұрын
It's pretty damn sweet that new maths is both happening, AND becoming popular and easily digestable on youtube, no doubt in no small part thanks for 3b1b's manim.
@dimkadimon
@dimkadimon 11 ай бұрын
Wow it's THE Eric Rowland! I have been amazed by this sequence ever since I saw it. Thank you for explaining it so clearly.
@The_True_J
@The_True_J Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this. At no point does it feel like rigorous mathematics. It feels like you're just playing around with a simple sequence and seeing what patterns appear. Awesome job. As of writing this comment, idk if you've made a follow up video, but I'm looking forward to it.
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thanks, that’s the vibe I was going for! The follow-up video is still a work in progress. Hopefully soon!
@yudoball
@yudoball Жыл бұрын
+1
@robertunderwood1011
@robertunderwood1011 Жыл бұрын
I am interested in the generalized REPUNT primes. In base two, these would be the Mersienrs
@adamnagy4544
@adamnagy4544 Жыл бұрын
I could die for videos like that for every publication!!!
@wilderuhl3450
@wilderuhl3450 Жыл бұрын
Only 3 videos, but they’re all fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
@cryptogenik
@cryptogenik Жыл бұрын
Wow that's pretty mindblowing that you came up with that!
@spaceyote7174
@spaceyote7174 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I have an obsession with primes and I read about this exact theorem a few months ago, how surreal to have a video by the author of it to pop up in my feed
@user-no9wi4vu3x
@user-no9wi4vu3x 8 ай бұрын
Man, this is so amazing! Love it!
@LorenzoAGJ
@LorenzoAGJ Жыл бұрын
Really nice. A few months I was playing around with some code trying to find some relation between Fibonacci's sequence and prime numbers. I did it just for fun because I liked these two topics and I wanted to relate them some way haha
@IagoMartinsJ
@IagoMartinsJ 8 ай бұрын
You blew my mind in a 10 Richter's scale' magnitude, that was awesome
@siegfriedbarfuss9379
@siegfriedbarfuss9379 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant and perfectly paced 🙏🏻
@timsim83
@timsim83 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ending summary. I was hoping for the explanation about finding common divisors of 10 digit numbers being a computational hurtle.
@alexc4924
@alexc4924 Жыл бұрын
GCD is no problem. GCD 10^9 times is maybe 1 minute - 1 hour of computation (hard to estimate accurately). But I'm guessing we already know all the primes up to 10^9.
@kdicus
@kdicus Жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful work. Beautiful math. Beautiful thinking. Beautiful video. Someone will figure out how to build on your work.
@joseph7858
@joseph7858 Жыл бұрын
such great narration of your discovery process: thank you Eric! 😊
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RichardHolmesSyr
@RichardHolmesSyr Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, I just learned about this recurrence a few weeks ago from Wikipedia and found it very interesting!
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! That's a fun coincidence!
@MrDannyDetail
@MrDannyDetail Жыл бұрын
21:50 That sequence is interesting. If you take the first 2 to be in the 2nd position (so the sequence just has no first position) then all the primes, other than 3, seem to appear in their own numbered position (i.e. 2 in the 2nd pos, 5 in the 5th, 7 in the 7th). You then have other primes appearing, and at intervals corresponding to prime multiples of that prime (e.g. 5 in the 5th, (2x5)th, (3x5)th and (5x5)th positions) though it looks like possibly any given prime will only appear in the sequence a 'few' times (for some definition of few) then never again.
@Alex_Deam
@Alex_Deam Жыл бұрын
Idk about the multiples, but your first point about the pth position being p is proven as Proposition 2.3 (Proposition 5 in the arxiv version) in the Ruiz-Cabello paper linked by Eric above!
@bolleholle
@bolleholle Жыл бұрын
in the first 10000 terms, there are 5 instances of 5, the last one on n=25=5*5 one instance of 7. 3 instances of 11, last one on 33=11*3. 8 instances of 13 (7th on 91=7*13, 8th on 169=13*13). 17 appears three times, last on 51=17*3. 19 appears once. For the following the appearances along the sequence continue to be equally spaced: 23 appears five times. 29 five times. 31 once. 37 once. 41 three times. 43 five times. 47 five times. 53 three times. 59 five times. 61 seven times. 67 five times. 71 three times. 73 thirteen times, last one on n=949=73*13. 79 once. 83 three times. 89 appears 15 times, last on 1335=89*15. There is a nice pattern but it is a little disturbing how 13 appears at n=169.
@draido-dev
@draido-dev 18 күн бұрын
noticed this pattern while solving project euler #443, lovely video!
@arhamshah71
@arhamshah71 10 ай бұрын
you are doing great work in making these videoes. It really helps a lot in visualising while studying maths concepts. I wish to see your videos more often and hope that your videos reach to those who need it and recieve much greater attention. you are going to be the next 3Blue1Brown.
@EricRowland
@EricRowland 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ethanlewis1453
@ethanlewis1453 Жыл бұрын
Hi, the most prevalent pattern in the prime sequence generated I noticed @ 3:00 seems to be 3 - 5 - 3 which occurs frequently but not quite predictably.
@trapkat8213
@trapkat8213 Ай бұрын
Wow. Brilliant work and brilliant presentation.
@user-ey2vv1dl3n
@user-ey2vv1dl3n Жыл бұрын
cool format, plz dont stop)
@washemoamadah4706
@washemoamadah4706 11 ай бұрын
Ey dude, at around 10:15 in the video, if you take the sum + the prime you wanted - 1 you get the next sum in the sequence. If you do that again with the new sum you get the next sum. But you surely already have seen that showed why, and I missed it. Great video man.
@richardfredlund8846
@richardfredlund8846 Жыл бұрын
@Eric Rowland, awesome video, and maths. After watching I was interested in the Cloitre's lcm recurrence, so wrote some code to generate it. What I found really surprising is when I looked at the set of numbers generated from the first 500 values. It's exactly the set of primes less than 500. Except there is no 3, but there's a 1. It's also true with first 50,000. (and my computer fell over when I tried on 100k cos my codes not super efficient). I'm sure I'm not the first to notice this, ... but seems rather remarkable.
@richardfredlund8846
@richardfredlund8846 Жыл бұрын
it's quite easy to prove that when n is prime P(n) =n for all odd primes >3 because C[n] is the product of numbers strictly smaller than n. It gets more interesting in the case of P(n*n) where n is prime. this requires that there exists some prime q which divides a*n -1 for some a in {2,3,...,n-1}. For example P(5*5) is saved because 19 divides 5*4 -1 which means that: If we make the hypothesis that for all odd primes p>3 there exists another prime q such that q = a*p - 1 for some a in {2,3,...,n-1} then this hypothesis is implied to be true if Cloitre's variant makes only primes. equally if this hypothesis if false, that implies Cloitre's variant doesn't only primes. (which is not an if and only if because if the hypothesis is true it doesn't imply Cloitre's variant makes only primes.)
@takeguess
@takeguess Жыл бұрын
Nice work! I love this!!! Thanks for putting it together
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@yukelalexandre8885
@yukelalexandre8885 Жыл бұрын
Dude! Been working on this very problem for like a decade, mad respect for the explanatory work! ✊
@EliederSousa
@EliederSousa Жыл бұрын
Congrats for you making this theorem. It's amazing.
@monkeymathematician5896
@monkeymathematician5896 Ай бұрын
What is said from 8:04 prevents from looping over all values of a cluster and sets its boundaries. It also means that the last value's index of the cluster is enough to describe it and averaging the values or the indexes could be unnecessary. It also says that there might be something hidden in the gap between two clusters. This saved me weeks, maybe months of work and much CPU time. Deserves the Fields to me. Thank you Professor 😁
@riadhalrabeh3783
@riadhalrabeh3783 Жыл бұрын
Your clusters graph for the primes(min 6:33) resembles the cluster of stable elements of the periodic table. This is a support of an idea I had published before that the growth of condensed matter follows the growth of primes. This makes primes the elementary particles of mathematics and of physics as well.
@HasekuraIsuna
@HasekuraIsuna 11 ай бұрын
Wow, this is so cool! Finding patterns in primes!
@artlover7770
@artlover7770 Жыл бұрын
THIS CHANNEL IS UNBELIEVABLE
@aromeran
@aromeran 10 ай бұрын
Waiting for the next part. ABSOLUTELY GREAT video Eric!
@EricRowland
@EricRowland 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Hopefully the next part will be done in the next few weeks!
@jean-louisnouzille7545
@jean-louisnouzille7545 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent video. Watching your video, I imagined an improvement of the AKS algorithm. Also, I'm thinking about Mersenne numbers with your video.
@remziogultum6697
@remziogultum6697 4 ай бұрын
this was really fun and educative to watch
@bennyl9228
@bennyl9228 8 ай бұрын
The thing that jumped at me when you included the indexes was that the ones that were doubles plus one had the same index as their own number.
@General12th
@General12th Жыл бұрын
Great work, Eric!
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@royvanrijn
@royvanrijn Жыл бұрын
The forward-moving algorithm works for any input number: Given a number n Calculate the target p=(2*n - 1) Find the smallest prime factor of p=>pf Update n += (pf-1)/2 For example, start with n=44: 44 p=87 pf=3 p=89 pf=89 89 p=177 pf=3 p=179 pf=179 179 p=357 pf=3 p=359 pf=359 359 p=717 pf=3 p=719 pf=719 719 p=1437 pf=3 p=1439 pf=1439 1439 p=2877 pf=3 p=2879 pf=2879 2879 p=5757 pf=3 p=5759 pf=13 p=5771 pf=29 p=5799 pf=3 p=5801 pf=5801 5801 (etc) All of these generate factors and/or prime numbers (obviously... when you think about it).
@crowdozer3592
@crowdozer3592 Жыл бұрын
Very nice animation and narration
@joeeeee8738
@joeeeee8738 Жыл бұрын
Awesome walkthrough❤
@algorithminc.8850
@algorithminc.8850 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Enjoyed this (and your other videos). Great stuff! Cheers.
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@austinclees9252
@austinclees9252 Жыл бұрын
What I saw first at 3:00 is that the 3’s are on opposite sides of other primes, like the twin prime conjecture
@gdgiantdwarf9639
@gdgiantdwarf9639 Жыл бұрын
an other somewhat interesting pattern i've noticed is that each new cluster of primes actually begins with a point where the index equals the value (noticed it at 9:18, might not hold up later on in the series)
@K9Megahertz
@K9Megahertz Жыл бұрын
I noticed this as well. Though maybe I missed something earlier that would have made that seem obvious, but after reading this comment, I guess that's just how it ends up and yes, it is quite interesting.
@Scratchfan321
@Scratchfan321 Жыл бұрын
I saw 3 repeating on every 2 numbers [EDIT: In some parts], 7 and 11 were appearing too often but I didn't see exactly where. Also great video!
@rileycampbell5691
@rileycampbell5691 4 ай бұрын
This video was great. Really really clever.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 11 ай бұрын
I've got a simple means using Prime Factoring and math to directly 'predict' the interval between primes. 'Paired Primes' like 17 and 19 seems to break the game (Pa+2=Prime)...skipping them for now. Take Pa+1 and Pa+2 as Prime Factored Composites, and add the first terms together to make 5. 1. Starting with 43 as Pa 2. Factoring Pa+1 = 44 = (2!*11) 3. Factoring Pa+2 = 45 = (3!*5) 4. 46 place holder 5. 47b = calculated Pb For extra fun, take the difference of the second terms, (11-5), which leaves 6. Counting backwards from 42 (since we are done with 43) 6 places leaves us at 37 = PrimeC. 6. 37 PrimeC, counting backwards. 5. 38 4. 39 3. 40 2. 41 1. 42 43 [skipped!] Working my way through Primes to 500; found a few spots where it doesn't work in both directions. Enjoy!
@danielwilms6919
@danielwilms6919 4 ай бұрын
Great visualization
@schweinmachtbree1013
@schweinmachtbree1013 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely spectacular video! Bravo!!
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@alien3.0c
@alien3.0c Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting and well explained
@christophergilbert5988
@christophergilbert5988 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video!
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@blacklistnr1
@blacklistnr1 Жыл бұрын
@2:43 [Pause the video], Ah yes, observing a great sequence in the wild, after hours of sitting camouflaged as a rock making Potoo mating calls, this unexpected beauty shows up. As I zoom out my telephoto lens and add a few beauty filters I can finally see.. nothing of interest. I'm here for cool math animations and graphs in my food break. After that great intro getting me hooked I'm most definitely not going to stare at some numbers :)) Edit: Great work! This is quite an interesting little set of interactions
@usernameisamyth
@usernameisamyth Жыл бұрын
thanks for giving so many things to think about
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 Жыл бұрын
What stood out was the abundence of 3s. Also amazing video
@westonmarkham1294
@westonmarkham1294 Жыл бұрын
For the psychology survey: I initially started looking for patterns in the frequencies of low primes, but didn't see anything obvious. So I started looking at the higher prices and saw that each new record high was just slightly higher than twice the previous one. I continued the video at that point.
@AngelOfRepentance
@AngelOfRepentance 11 ай бұрын
Great vid. I think that most people interested in this sort of content don't need to be explained what a logarithmic scale is though :x
@autrnaut
@autrnaut Жыл бұрын
Smallest primes are most common (3 by a wide margin, then 5 and 7), and there seem to be patterns related to 3. For example, if a 5 and 3 are beside each other, the 5 is always first *unless* it is surrounded by 3s on both sides. The same is true for 11 and 3, and 3 and 7 are similar but reversed (I.e. 7 follows 3 except when enclosed by 3 on both sides.
@tulliusexmisc2191
@tulliusexmisc2191 5 ай бұрын
Since you ask, at 2:45 the most obvious pattern was the lack of 2s, followed by the sequence 3 5 3 being common. At 4:17 I was surprised you didn't mention the striking pattern that many primes first occur where n is equal to that prime. In fact, this is so prevalent that at 7:40 you highlighted the primes themselves when you were actually talking about their indices.
@AB-Prince
@AB-Prince 5 ай бұрын
there is a method of primality testing, called the witness numbers. where if a number fails the test, it's guaranteed to be composite. numberphile did a great video on this, and combining that with the formula that skips 1 should work.
@adacohen
@adacohen 5 ай бұрын
At 2:51, I noticed a more general version of the doubling pattern which seems to hold true everywhere (but I haven't proven it). If you let x and y be two "largest so far" primes in the sequence, then y = 2 * x + p_s - p_n - 1, where p_s is the sum of the primes in the sequence between x and y, and p_t is the number of primes between x and y. (Trivially, you can put the ones back in the sequence and use the same formula, since the ones are just canceled out between p_s and p_n). For example: ... 467, 3, 5, 3, 941 ... x = 467 y = 941 p_s = 3 + 5 + 3 = 11 p_n = 3 2*x + p_s - p_n -1 = 934 + 11 - 3 - 1 = 941 The 2*x + 1 case is just a special case of this: ... 5, 3, 11... p_s = 3 p_n = 1 2*x + p_s - p_n - 1 = 2*x + 3 - 1 - 1 = 2*x + 1 And you don't even have to do this with two consecutive "largest so far" primes. For example: ... 47, 3, 5, 3, 101, 3, 7, 11, 3, 13, 233, 3, 467 ... x = 47 y = 467 p_s = 3 + 5 + 3 + 101 + 3 + 7 + 11 + 3 + 13 + 233 + 3 = 385 p_t = 11 2*x + p_s - p_n - 1 = 94 + 385 - 11 - 1 = 467 I'm not sure how this relates to everything else, or if it's useful (it doesn't actually predict the jumps), but it's interesting.
@rasowa2958
@rasowa2958 4 ай бұрын
This is because every prime bumps R(n) up to 3*n. See it at 1:52. So: R(x) = 3*x R(y) = 3*y = R(x) + p_s + (y - x - p_n - 1) + y this is because R(y) is a result of adding: - R(x) - primes between x and y (p_s) - ones between x and y in amount: y - x - p_n - 1 - prime y Now solve it for y: 3*y = 3*x + p_s + y - x - p_n - 1 + y and the result is your formula: y = 2*x + p_s - p_n - 1
@gadxxxx
@gadxxxx 9 ай бұрын
I look forward to more interesting videos.
@sheepcommander_
@sheepcommander_ 7 ай бұрын
when I saw it before you said it it actually blew my mind..
@user-zn4pw5nk2v
@user-zn4pw5nk2v 11 ай бұрын
For the last sequence i got an interesting property, For chosen initial number i =C(1) and resulting C(n), GCD(n,i)*prime at (n, as in [C(n)/LCM(n,(C(n-1)))]) =n, for any explored i
@lucmacot5496
@lucmacot5496 6 ай бұрын
Bravo!
@ernestoherreralegorreta137
@ernestoherreralegorreta137 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive. Got yourself a devoted new subscriber. Thx4 sharing!
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@johnsherfey3675
@johnsherfey3675 Жыл бұрын
The log graph reminds me a bit of Minkowski's Question Mark Function, or the Cantor function at least for the spacing.
@oncedidactic
@oncedidactic 7 ай бұрын
How much of the journey to the theorem was playing around with relations, graphing to spot patterns and general exploration? The video gives a strong sense of chasing someone who is deliberately leaving a trail, haha. Do you have any more insights about what the mod3 sequencing is doing? In your eyes does that relate to the primes being 6n +/- 1?
@belgarathlesorcier8385
@belgarathlesorcier8385 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thank you!
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan Жыл бұрын
At the beginning, I was not looking for that kind of pattern at all. I was trying to look at the rhythm of how many numbers come between each iteration of the same number, starting with 3's.
@cthoyt
@cthoyt Жыл бұрын
awesome video, super interesting.Thanks!
@priyanshugoel3030
@priyanshugoel3030 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of changing the initial choices in the sieve of eratosthenes. Does produce primes but after some terms.
@immaterialirrelevent8839
@immaterialirrelevent8839 Жыл бұрын
I didn't see this mentioned in video or comments I think, so hopefully I didn't miss it, but I notice that the first value in each cluster seems to be equal to : (2*first value in previous cluster + sum of all all values in cluster - number of elements in each cluster). Hence the n,3 pattern being 2n+1 is effectively 2n+3-2, or for a longer pattern 2*47+(3+5+3)-4 = 101. Not sure this is useful at all but just seems interesting.
@sensorindicatechnologies9168
@sensorindicatechnologies9168 Жыл бұрын
I tried to follow your video. Very impressed by your efforts in this direction (of trying to generate primes). However, may be there are better and more elegant ways to generate primes. For me, Primes are linked to Quantum Computing. Just as Boole came up with Boolean Algebra which was the foundation for the Binary Digital World, we have to envision how Quantum Computing logic will help us to instantaneously decipher (or decompose) some of the largest numbers which we can envision into it's Prime Components. I am still trying to wrap my head around how this new computing paradigm will do that, but that is the way to go, in my opinion.
@benjames9153
@benjames9153 Жыл бұрын
amazing work, love your videos
@EricRowland
@EricRowland Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@natanaelucena
@natanaelucena 8 ай бұрын
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