In Defense of Chainsaw Man

[@stranger7648]

Fujimoto is one of the writers whose stories work well in the long run. Some chapters maybe small and underwhelming but at the end of arcs you feel satisfied

[@hyjjjkyikk3158]

But it is a real pain to wait for the good parts. It’s like eating 9 wholemeal bread crumbs to just eat a Big Hokkaido milk bread crumb. But right now it’s piquing my interest. But most importantly ,I want to see the fire devil face Reveal. It’s power is so op I want to see it in action

[@ОлегВысоков-л8й]

This is actually the problem I have with many other ongoing anime and manga. I just can't maintain my interest long enough when I can only read one chapter a week. I need MORE. I need to read the story and see the progression of the plot and character developments "in real time".

[@sentialt-p8x]

idk bro i took a break

[@real_rutmen]

No you dont.

[@Blasphemy-w7u]

Really? Cause I wasn’t when the way they beat the final villian of the first part was with a loud ass chainsaw and to make it more lame denji snuck up on her WITH A CHAINSAW yea horrible fucking writing 😂

[@CHB535]

I personally disagree with the idea that Denji’s arc is redundant. I feel as though part 1 was more so about Denji finding agency and who he is rather than him becoming happy. While his happiness was a part of that, it was more about him forming his own identity and realizing he isn’t a dog on a leash, he is a human being. Part 2 explores these ideas further as Denji now has a home and a family but still feels unhappy/inadequate. He wants for more. An interesting thing Fujimoto does is have Denji want to be caught as Chainsaw man in order for girls to like him. Denji doesn’t believe that anyone will like him for who he is. In chapter 155, he calls himself a monster and laughs at the idea of finding happiness and acceptance. Part one is about finding himself. Part 2 is about coming to terms with who he is and loving that person. There is some overlap but not as much as you made it out to be I feel. Of course, this is just my opinion and perhaps I didn’t understand your video properly. Anyways, I really like your content and hope you keep making more 😊😊

[@Jermstuckonpercs]

Right Denji is growing so much I love his video but he completely side lined Denji character development calling it redundant is insane

[@phyn9665]

Now this guy fucking gets it

[@hangry3102]

Denji is seriously the most slandered shonen protagonist. I don't know how everyone always views his character development through such distorted lenses, when I feel Fujimoto does such an excellent job showcasing his character.

[@Jermstuckonpercs]

@@hangry3102 right

[@Less-thanthree]

He's also dealing with the trauma from the first part, give him a break 😭

[@niko-and-co]

I haven’t watched the video yet but I love Asa so fucking much, she’s absolutely hilarious

[@SchokoladeamKamin]

Eventhough I prefer Denji as a protagonist over Asa and I'm still a bit hesitant regarding Part 2. I think we just have to let Fujimoto cook with the story and I'm certain that a lot of the current dissatisfaction stems from the fact that many readers are now reading chapter per chapter instead of binging.

[@sentialt-p8x]

Denji reason we came here. His character, his goals how they were met the villain allies etc

[@SuperSaiyanKJ]

It was good until denji ruined everything by corrupting asa.

[@A32893]

​@@SuperSaiyanKJ what do you mean?

[@zemox2534]

Chainsaw man part 2 is one of those stories that is better when you are reading it in one go, instead of one chapter at a time every week.

[@ppllmmkko]

Watched it in one go, its ass

[@JWPainter]

I found a lot people saying that they feel like the plot is lost in part 2 which I think is a valid criticism since it's basically the same feeling I have back when I was reading part 1 weekly, the same criticism also appeared everywhere saying they have no idea where this is going, but in the end of part one, everything that we need to know at that point is revealed and it would all make sense as long as we read the whole story again. I think it would be the same with part 2, Fujimoto wouldn't just leave us questions that won't be answered at the end, as long as the question is important for the plot, it will be answered eventually.

[@sentialt-p8x]

thing were going good until after the falling devil

[@JWPainter]

@@sentialt-p8x just because there are less action doesn't mean the story is bad

[@sentialt-p8x]

@@JWPainter i agree but, what's the real goal of the story right now? Even if you want to create a feel of I wonder what will happen next it must come with some sort of stakes that none existent in the stroy rn. Every chapter for while has been about Denji and his life or him and that kids relationship which isnt that important. If yoou Wana focus on Denji for a bit thats cool but without proper stakes or any relationship feel. There isnt much you can to keep the reader entertained. Perhaps fujimoto will use whats happening here to contribute to the stroy later on. But as of now theres a need for some new stakes doing all of that only to put Denji in some jail or soemthing from where I last left off was more than predictable and only left a worst taste in my mouth. My other issue is the whole 300k devils will swarm the streets and How denji's power will grow and stuff and it all seemt to go to waste. The fire devil an everyone jsut disappeared. It felt like everything was a waste. But anyway thats jsut my take on csm rn I get its going exteremly slow but add some proper stakes man.

[@zemox2534]

​@@sentialt-p8xThe stakes are there. Asa is trying d to save Denji. She teamed up with Katanna and just found out that Denji is Chainsawman! Plus, Qunxi is going to attack. Plus there is the threat of the Death Devil. WTF do you call all of that!!! There are stakes, but you are just an impatient child with no bloody attention span, so just shut the £%^&& up and read something else!!

[@diogobahia3686]

Chainsawman doesn't work as "weekly experience" the story works better in a binge

[@ZaiDrizzleDrop]

EXACTLY, thats why I'm waiting for the chapters to stack

[@ivangraypiece]

this

[@benschurman3890]

Can confirm. I binged chainsaw man twice (up to part 2, and then up to the latest chapter last week) and can say that it was amazing both times

[@Caramelo23606]

Have you been reading the last 10+ chapters? It definitely works.

[@SamTheGumMan117]

From where the last arc left off to now with this big breakout I think Fujimoto is completely in his bag rn going forward for the rest of part 2

[@doublebbastard7514]

Ironic the literal next chapter is the return of Asa and a clear direction for an arc

[@chillcapsaicin6109]

Prolly edited before thr prison escape arc

[@peggy10142]

i still enjoyed the story like a lot. Part 2 for me personally is a big improvement from part 1. I know the pacing seems off but for me personally it is pretty good. The current arc seems extremely interesting and every week i always waited to know what happens next

[@Jermstuckonpercs]

I wouldn’t say a big step up maybe at the start but as of rn the new csm characters don’t hold a flame to the old ones and part 2 is hood back bc fugi keeps feeding us fan service with call backs from part 1 instead of making a new devil/arc

[@Blasphemy-w7u]

Not really the pacing feels all over the place and really slow compared to the first part not to mention he ended the first part in a lame way by having denji sneak up on makima ??? With a CHAINSAW??? Yea some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen not to mention denji feels only a little different compared to himself at the end of the first part of CSM the author handled it weirdly and the new characters came out of no where they weren’t really introduced in the best way

[@mjoshwil]

I mean i recently just read all of Chainsaw Man up to the current chapter and I mist say I am a huge fan who enjoys everything about part 2. For me its just very character driven and thats what im mainly invested in. And part 2 delivers in that regard which i enjoy.

[@blazingboifire]

To me, csm never fell off. I recently read volumes 12 and 13, the start of part 2, and it's not bad its diffrent sure but part 2 is amazing. I've read goodbye eri I got all fire punch volumes if anything fujimoto is ever evolving and even if the art is diffrent in part 2 it still has that fijimoto feel bout it the expression faces alone are so good you show a random npc having a shocked face be it part 1 or 2 they will say " o yea that's fijimoto art style " that's all nice video let csm cook cus like you said when all is set and done and we re read it we will see the big picture.

[@SilverSaw988]

The vast number of people who talk about CM part 2 seem to love it, so I'm not sure where the idea that there's any kind of consensus of dissatisfaction online comes from. Maybe this is just a Twitter take, therefor ya know. it's Twitter. At least on Reddit and KZbin i see very few complaints.I do agree that the pacing is slow, since the chapters have been shorter and he's not filling them up with dialogue to make up for it, but the general plot direction is still very interesting. I think the main issue with the plot currently is the villian situation. It's unclear who's truly in the main baddie seat. Seems like public safety, fami, and Barem all have points in their favor. But none of them have been fully confirmed. So that does make for an experience currently where we aren't sure who's a threat and who isn't

[@Jermstuckonpercs]

Right I haven’t seen too many hate for part 2 but I have a lot of complaints but I wouldn’t say part 2 is terrible by any means I think part one is near perfect and could of ended the series and part 2 rn is like a 7.5/10 but I still love the series

[@nichescenes]

Online people claim all stories are bad. People hated wano now they like it. They hated whole cake then once hate for wano started they loved whole cake. They hated full metal alchemist ending now love. Love for berserk is focused on the part that got animated they don’t or most seem to never bring up the rest before calling it goat. Online discourse is awful.

[@rifl-rex]

I was going to comment about thr fire punch feeling... But you already said it... In the long run and thr second read it will all make sense and it will be an interesting journey ❤️ I don't know if all of you get this feeling but the slow pacing of part 2 reminds me of early Evangeline And feeling we get towards the ending... I wish he can bring back Existential crisis we get in fire punch... I want that feeling back😭

[@alessandrofilippetti]

I personally love part 2 so far. There are many reasons why i enjoy it’s pacing as much as part 1 and same goes for the art wich i will explain later. The fact that Denji and Asa alternate as protagonist makes the reading much more enjoyable as you get more points of view inside the same world and it helps the story into building a sort of dimension for the characters. Part 2 gives a lot more chances to characters from part one to be explored (like the human weapons), the powers of some characters have been shown to grow (like denji’s regeneration being stronger than in part one) or to have new limits (nayuta’s powers being weaker than makima’s) . The pacing of part 2 makes the readers build anticipation for the return of characters from part one (like reze, power, kishibe etc). The morality of public safety gets more and more dubious as the story progresses and their goals are getting more questionable. The character of fami is a mirror of makima, she has unclear motives and she can appear as an enemy or as an ally. She tries to save human in the most counter active ways and she acts as opposite to makima in the way she approaches humans. Like how the control devil was raised and CONTROLLED in part one, and how the war devil lives in CONFLICT being in Asa’s body, the famine devil is constantly STARVING but doesn’t show hunger for connection with humans nor devils. The horsmen of the apocalypse seem to be somewhat victims of their own power wich makes the anticipation for the revel of the death devil all the more interesting. As asa builds more confidence when she is off screen, Denji is struggling with his new life being torn apart and shows how he actually changed from part 1. In part 1 he chases things for himself and from others where in part two he is actually asking things from himself. His material needs only act as a coping mechanism to the depression he is been building since part 1. I am loving this so far. As for the art, he is taking more inspiration from go nagai in many instances wich is very cool, and it makes sense since the biggest inspiration for chainsawman is devilman. Also one thing i would like to point out is that we are all used to reading part 2 online but the thicker lines actually look better when you observe them on the printed version. Also the anatomy in the artstyle has gotten a little bit more realistic and more proportionate while becoming less complex wich is a harder thing that you might think. Overall i am confident in fujimoto’s abilities and intuitions as a writer and artist. As some may say “let him cook” .

[@mrsninis_0477]

This is awesome. I just wanna agree that the art looks much better in the physical copy

[@xCallMeBamx]

chainsaw man has become my favorite new anime/manga, while i do think part 1 was better and part 2 is a little all over the place right now, im still interested to see where it goes. and like you said in the video i think alot of the problems that people have can be contributed to the release cycle of the chapters and the way the story is being told, when you read 1 chapter every week or so its easy to think its scattered, or redundant. but if you give it time for a few chapters release then youre able to grasp the story better. the most recent chapters have gotten interesting (current newest chapter is 160 at the time of commenting) so i have hope that the story is going to feel alot more satisfying once everything is out and we can go through the story without having to wait a week or more for the next 20 pages.

[@FirmlyGrasp_IT]

The cast in part 2 isn't anywhere near as interesting as part 1. Asa is great, but aside from that, everyone is just okay. Even Yoshida, who was one of my favorite characters in Part 1, has honestly been disappointing. I've binged part 2 twice and I feel comfortable in saying the pacing is bad. So little has happened in 60+ chapters. The Justice Devil arc was really good, the dating Denji arc felt far too similar to the Eternity Devil arc but was still decent, and the falling devil & CSM church arcs were just straight up lackluster, except for the section where Denji's house was set fire. I'm sorry but nothing in part 2 is on the level of the Katana Man, Bomb Girl, and especially international Assassins arcs. Part 1 was a 9, while part is a 7 for now and in a downwards trend imo. Part 2 is still good but it's just not on Part 1's level.

[@kalb390]

A 7? You're being too nice.

[@mrsninis_0477]

Cool, I've binged part 2 more than twice (not trying to compete here) and I think the pacing is completely fine. It's not perfect but it's much better than reading in weekly. Your take on little things happening is objectively wrong. The falling devil arc is really good, I'm genuinely curious what problems you have with it. Please do tell. The church arc is better than the Katana man arc, fight me. Also Yoshida is MUCH better in part 2 than part 1. Do you perhaps think that Yoshida just hurts Denji and likes doing it? There are multiple characters in part 2 that are interesting and good, not just Asa. Nayuta is extremely well written, Barem is the second best antagonist in the entire series, Yoru is funny, badass and has also developed nicely, Denji continues to be an amazing character in part 2 and I love his writing in the church arc, Yuko was a surprisingly good character for being in the series for such a short time and how much depth Yoshida has gotten solely on subtle writing is genuinely impressive. Miri also has massive potential and I really like him and, his writing, so far. Overall part 2 is a more main character focused story, where side characters aren't as important and don't get as much focus as they did in part 1. Lastly, the cast of part 2 almost all feel very human. It's really impressive how realistic they feel. (Part 1 is better than part 2 in basically every aspect though)

[@farahansyakir]

I think it's better not to put Hajime Isayama's face to replace Fujimoto's ( as you can see at 06:18 and 07:32 ), because I don't want people who don't know Fujimoto to think that it was his face and it will become a confussing thing later (a similar case with Oda Sensei face). Fujimoto barely show his face on public so you can use his iconic heart logo to visualize him instead.

[@lescryingman4093]

The only valid criticisms of csm right now is the dodgy art and pacing of releases / chapters Denji's arc is way different from part 1, at the end of the public safety arc, Denji resolves to devalue himself to beat Makima. "I bet that she never even looked at me", this is the start of his current woes; his lack of self-respect and his addiction to csm. Part 1 was about learning how to love and achieving the dream of a normal life but csm has always been about having a better life instead. In part 2, he's told in order to maintain his normal life with Nayuta, he has to give up being chainsaw man. The better life is being csm though where you have the adoration of fans and girls. Denji finds the normal life to be boring as we the fans do and thrives on the chaos and pain of being chainsaw man. People say Denji regressed but character development isn't always black and white, Denji doesn't talk about sex as often as he used to, yes it's still a goal but he has priorities like Nayuta now, he even outright rejects Fumiko at first. Now I could also talk about the meta nature of csm rn with fans who just love denji saying they want him to be happy (Fumiko/PS) and fans who just love the action of csm (Barem), I could also talk about the Jesus parallels and the parallels with the hybrids or I could talk about how Denji's depression and current state is a direct result of him defeating Makima. I'd just like to say, though, that in terms of characters, Asa, Fami, Nayuta and Barem have been fantastic additions to the cast, with almost equal complex character work like Denji, Aki, Himeno, Power and Makima of the 1st part

[@eliasmaissour437]

If there's one thing I know about fujimoto after reading all his Manga and one shots. Is that the guy is talented and unhinged. There's a shift in tone between part 1 and part 2 but it's. A breath of fresh air. The art looking more flat kinda complements the shift in tone in my opinion as part 2 isn't as much about gory colorful action but more so the brains behind all those things. It probably is part of a bigger buildup and it will look more coherent by the end like fire punch but all I'll say is that I'll let fujimoto cook, if there's one guy who can do this it's him

[@unbelievablegaming497]

CSM might be one of those mangas where you need to wait for it to be finished instead of binge reading it.

[@nichescenes]

Most people binged part 1 when hot talk was about it being fresh take on shonen. Now people demand even more and most overlooked the theme of the series. You still get people who drop it saying denji is disgustinng for not wanting to be hokage or pirate king. Noble goals.

[@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD]

Hot take I guess but ever since the first few chapters of part 2 I've always cared more about Asa and her relationship with Denji than any other plot point that's been introduced so far, and I'm not afraid to say it, I love her way more as a protagonist (for this part) and get really bored when it instead focuses on whatever Denji and Nayuta are doing together. That said now that she's finally advancing the narrative again I've regained hope for part 2, but I'm honestly not sure how long it'll last for.

[@animenerd5million]

People who don't like part 2 are mostly people who don't appreciate slow storytelling or are people who were spoiled by the explosive part 1. Atleast that's what I think.

[@terrigo3987]

I like Part 2, but I do think it has some flaws. I think offscreening Asa’s time in the CSM Church (when that reasonably should have been a MAJOR development for her character) was a really bad writing decision.

[@Revealingstorm.]

Bingo. Have to deal with the same people when talking about Vinland Saga

[@runekongstadlarsen7569]

i LOVE PART 2!!!!

[@partyjams]

I think people forget that even Part 1 had a lot going on and quite a lot of shifts in the story. I'm glad I read Fire Punch as a binge and when I watched the CSM anime I was able to appreciate the early parts much more than when the manga first came out. I'm sure Part 2 will be fine. If I had to point out a problem is the Fujimoto's work gets a lot of earned praise but is unfortunately put on a pedestal for it. His last short story felt like a warning of this very issue..

[@zemox2534]

He has earned that pedsfal dude. Unlike some series I can think of (Eden zero).

[@FM-tw9sb]

Persoanly I stopped reading Chainsawman because I'm waiting to read it all at once to have a better understanding of the story. But for the small part I read I like the story. I still prefer part one but when I think about every Fujimoto story I read so far I didn't like them that much and had no idea of where I was going until half the story. I was thinking about it and actually if I consider part one more or less in the sane phase where i stopped in part two I prefer the second (Before Reze it was interesting but nowhere close to how I see Chainsawman now). In particular Asa is simply a great caracther in Fujimoto style. In the end regarding the art as I said I didn't read the newest chapters but I don't see great problems. The drawings are "dirty" and a bit particular but the style is consistent and adapts to the story.

[@Chickennuggets8282-h4l]

The main problem is that people judge to early

[@JimboS1ice999]

lol Fujimoto caps at around 200 chapters...he can't and hasn't written past that. He even started writing other works apart from CsM...he hates this series.

[@Chickennuggets8282-h4l]

@@JimboS1ice999 he does not hate this series because if he did he would have ended it when makima died I think he is cooking something we just gotta wait a lil longer

[@JimboS1ice999]

@@Chickennuggets8282-h4l "it gets good in chapter 829387471839 guys I swear" knowing full well again he doesn't write past like 200 chapters ever.

[@mrsninis_0477]

@@JimboS1ice999 literally where is this coming from? you're just doomerposting without any logical evidence or implications. Part 2 is solid

[@JimboS1ice999]

@@mrsninis_0477 massive cope

[@AM17titan]

I think the plot is very convoluted in part 2 Like wtf I don’t know how this story will pan out In part 1 it was pretty easy as gun devil was the final type villain and then you got makima who you thought could be a villain and then there came a plot twist which was very well executed

[@mrsninis_0477]

are you acting like international assassins isn't more convoluted than anything in part 2

[@AM17titan]

@@mrsninis_0477 it isnt It’s just a fun kind of filler arc Where all hell break loose

[@mrsninis_0477]

@@AM17titan well now I won't take any of your critisism of part 2 seriously if you believe that IA is a filler arc. That's the worst csm take I've heard in a while.

[@AM17titan]

@@mrsninis_0477 I said kind off ….

[@Jermstuckonpercs]

I think it’s bc most chainsaw man fans didn’t read part 1 by weekly they read it all in one go at there time and there speed but even so part one is mainly better than part 2 yeah the pacing and development of characters were better but part 1 characters are still better at end of the day we only got 3 new characters that I actually care for (but csm part 2 Denji is WAY better than csm part 1) that’s it tho

[@HOPE-ym3nj]

i genuinely think that denji’s arc in part 2 does not at all seem redundant. he is quite different than he was in part 1. i think fujimoto is exploring denji as someone who for the first time has achieved a proper sense of humanity and is able to live a “normal live”. but is that who he really is? the conflict between denji and the identity of chainsaw man is not yet resolved. makima laid the groundwork for a pervasive theme in part 2 of parasocial relationships. everyone thinks they know who denji/csm is - even though, denji doesn’t wholly know that yet. he tries to pick one at different times only for it to fall apart in front of him. denji in part 1 is discovering his humanity. part 2 is a vaguer concept of self-actualization and identity.

[@Lskillz.12209]

Honestly I think people should be saying something is bad without knowing the full story, a similar thing is happening to Jujutsu Kaisen

[@MrJara1018]

I’m very happy with Chainsawman part 2,….

[@Atticus-Catnipp]

I'm not the biggest CSM fan but the best part of the series just weren't animated yet.

[@Tefezilla]

I like part 2 more than part 1

[@sentialt-p8x]

A few chapters ago they were talking about Denji getting stronger and how 300k people were devils and how death devil was coming etc, Baron was cool af it realy felt like CSM was coming back then it just goes back into Denji an his nonesense

[@mrsninis_0477]

? like actually what do you mean

[@DrJuice711]

I never noticed a change in quality it all looks the same.

[@mrsninis_0477]

the art has gotten a big downgrade, and I say this as someone who still loves the art.

[@darciheadswillroll]

with the art theres only 3 panels people cycle through to say this, what they dont show is the fantastic art in the falling devil arc or interesting set peices in the current arc, fujimoto doesnt have an editor so hes doing it himself, as he helps his TWO movies coming out

[@terrigo3987]

Fujimoto does have an editor.

[@mrsninis_0477]

Nah the art has gotten a pretty big downgrade, and I still love it. Most important panels still look great, for example double spreads.

[@Sup-ng7un]

theres nothing to defend all these chainsaw man haters are people who caught up and didnt wanna read weekly which is fair or people who read weekly and think the pacing is bad when it really isnt they just think it is cause they gotta wait every week for the story to continue. as for the art i think it looks good not something you can really defend if someone doesnt like something you cant really tell them theyre wrong thats what they think. i love chainsaw man im really enjoying part 2 i keep telling myself to wait for more chapters so i can binge but i just cant

[@terrigo3987]

Nah dude I like Part 2 but there's definitely been some writing problems in the last arc

[@Sup-ng7un]

@@terrigo3987like how?

[@sentialt-p8x]

@@terrigo3987 I agree the thing with the fire devil seemed to have been swept under the rug nothing came out of it at all.

[@terrigo3987]

@@Sup-ng7un I think my biggest problem is that it sorta skipped over Asa's time in the Church when you'd think her being a celebrity would be a big point of focus with her since they spent so much time fleshing out her day to day life early on. Feels very bizarre that they didn't go more into that. also really 50/50 on how Fumiko's character has been handled. Right now I want to let Fujimoto cook on her but right now it feels like he's changing what he wants her personality to be every other chapter. Introduced as a crazy psycho bitch -> wait no turns out she's just a dumb PS agent -> wait turns out she's actually a Denji fan -> wait actually it turns out she's actually just really normal and is acting really reasonable -> wait actually she doesn't care about Denji -> wait actually she IS crazy or something? Like what even is this character dude 😭

[@Sup-ng7un]

@@terrigo3987 yeah i guess i can see that he just wanted to add another possible gf for denji even tho we all know the only good ship is denji and asa

[@Jayden_926]

If Fujimoto can get me to read Fire Punch, I’ll definitely give CSM pt 2 a chance lol

[@cwega2463]

i don’t think there’s a new gen mangaka alive at the moment that can write stories as well as Fujimoto. people are just mad there isn’t fights every week, and that it’s not as hype as JJK.

[@dxdboy7418]

No Vinland saga manga is still have better writing than (csm/jjk/frieren)

[@mtablet8313]

@@dxdboy7418 Vinland saga manga isn't a new gen. The manga came out in 2005 or 2006.

[@dxdboy7418]

@@mtablet8313 no it came out in 2013 ?

[@mtablet8313]

@@dxdboy7418 That's when it was licensed by Kodansha USA. The manga came out in like 2005.

[@dxdboy7418]

@@mtablet8313 still my point stands

[@minthaw9477]

ahh why are u using the photo of hanjime isayama while mentioning chainsawman author?

[@robbyw.8616]

Question, how far are you in Part 2? It seems much happened after the last chapter you read.

[@Idk-lr5xd]

I read it it rlly hasn't rlly fucking loving it i hate fujimoto tho (not rlly just hate him killing all he characters mann )

[@ToiletWarlord]

i just think that theres no anime adaptation for season 2 yet so people just forgor

[@anuragdas4605]

Can yoh tell me how tje story actually end ? Because I have zero idea 😔

[@xboxclown8922]

Honestly both Denji and Asa needs to prepare for the Death Devil. I don't think this current arc will lead into that encounter. I do think they still can do a lot in Part 2. It's in a better state than Jujutsu Kaisen.

[@BoredDior]

weird that people thinks it fallen off and others are hooked weekly

[@fernandolemus5965]

I have heard that Fuji is currently helping out with the Look Back and possibly the csm movie, which may explain on the art, having a bit of a downgrade, though I'm not sure how much truth there is in that

[@AyoSquareRoot]

My personal theory is that he was following sketches that he made months before the reléase of part 2 but along the way he made some changes in the story and is now rushing new ideas that he didnt have before. Also for part 1 he had a lot of talented assistants that stopped working in part 2 around the first chapters to go and create their own projects.

[@ShonenOuji]

If that’s true then that would kind of explain it for sure.

[@tobisenpai5953]

Anyone who dropped part two only read part 1 for the fights lmao

[@mrsninis_0477]

that's not true. I love part 2, but I dislike this way of deflecting critisism

[@ashupro77_]

I am just waiting for Power’s comeback 😭

[@terrigo3987]

She's never coming back bro.....

[@Tefezilla]

​@@terrigo3987her and aki should be permanent death but blood devil should return as completely new bro character that could never revert back to power

[@terrigo3987]

@@Tefezilla idk man it seems too late in the game to introduce the blood devil. To me it seems like Denji's character arc in Part 2 is meant to be tragic so I don't think introducing Blood would play into that well.

[@mrsninis_0477]

she won't make a come back. The blood devil will probably though

[@ashupro77_]

@@mrsninis_0477 yeah ig

[@bill-cipher000]

Why are u using isayamas picture as fujimoto😭😭😭

[@codeghost7715]

The thing with Chainsaw Man isn’t that it’s fallen off or that it’s bad, but it’s different. It lost its charm and unique identity that part 1 so amazingly established. 1. Chainsaw Man was given to us as a quick paced action story about real people battling the darkest forces of humanity while also trying to grapple with their own psychological issues. Crazy with high octane action, but juxtaposed with moments of slice of life- but brief. That briefness was intentional as to remind us that these hunters are people and that they fight for the small moments of peace that they have in this world. This unique pacing made the series fun, and still complex at the same time. 2. There was also the gripping and easily understandable plot narrative. Devil Hunters battling fears and sins incarnate , building up to their greatest enemy who would be the extremely powerful Gun Devil. This plot premise worked. It was simple, and creative. It worked effectively to pull audiences in and get them invested. 3. Lastly, the characters. All of them compelling in their own rights. Denji, Aki, Power, and Makima! They were fun to watch and each had very interesting dynamics and characterization. The ridiculous Denji, Power the bombshell, the outwardly cold hearted but loving big brother Aki, and the equally manipulative as attractive Makima. They were great to watch, and truly made the series worthwhile. Now let’s take these 3 attributes and look at Part 2. 1. The pacing is dramatically slower. Replacing the kickback action with more intimate scenes of character building and slice of life. We can literally go months without something big or impactful happening in the series. 2. The Plot Narrative/ Premise is very very muddied as you can’t easily explain what’s going on anymore. It’s no longer about a group of hunters increasingly losing their humanity in a series of hunts as they reach closer to battling the realistically powerful Gun Devil. Instead we have this mix of conflicts that don’t really gel all that well. Devil Hunter association and Chainsaw Man cult fighting over the future and power of ChainsawMan, Asa Mitaka working with the devils of war and famine to save Chainsaw Man by… defeating him? As well as some other stuff that I can’t even explain. That’s how convoluted or complex this all feels. 3. Aki, Power, and Makima are dead. And ever since they’ve left a void in the series that has just never been filled. Even with “new” characters like Asa and Nayuta and Yoshida in the mix… it just doesn’t feel the same. Maybe they’d work great as additions to the series, but that doesn’t replace the voids still present. So overall, Chainsaw Man just isn’t what it used to be. And it’s subjective whether that’s a good or bad thing. I’m personally still reading it and having a decent time, but I’d be lying if I said I feel the same joy and excitement reading this as I did years back in Part 1. Still, I love the series and I hope it doesn’t ever plummet into obscurity or join the ranks of fallen great animes like MHA. There’s still alot of value here, but it’s just different. Hopefully when all of Part 2 is wrapped up, I’ll have a different feeling regarding this series.

[@SandersCat_yo]

finally someone put into words why part 2 was bothering me so much. this is an amazing explanation, thank you.

[@samflood5631]

Sure, part 2 could be a bit slow at times. But Chainsaw Man is taking its time establishing both the characters and events that could lead to a fight scene. And besides, Denji has grown from being a stupid hormonal teen to a responsible older brother and thoughtful boyfriend. And besides, Asa is a great main character and love interest as she’s just an awkward teenager who’s shy, clumsy and might be autistic, which is sort of realistic.

[@mrsninis_0477]

oh she's autistic

[@ryanchain9746]

Dude most the fans just dont understand decent writing. They are used to flashy shonen brain rot. Which is OKAY but only because those stories call for it. Chainsaw Man is NOT that story despite it’s misleading premise. Fujimoto’s favorite stories are the kind where the main villain is defeated within the very beginning, and now you are left wondering “what now”; in short, fujimoto loves an unpredictable story. Goodbye Eri explores this idea further, showing that the Majority of people HATE this type of unpredictableness. And at the end, despite it all, The main character inevitably sticks to his ideals and ends his story with an unpredictable outcome. Well semi predictable? Idk its meta as hell. Point is, Chainsaw Man does what it wants while keeping the story, and the characters mind numbingly interesting. Wait for the story to be officially over, and everyone will fiend for it like it was written by the great Hajime Isayama. Much love to the GOAT, and to Fujimoto

[@nichescenes]

But stuff like frieren are considered best shonen. And people stuck with one piece for 25 years. I’ll face it and say cm just ain’t for some anymore and it’s ok.

[@mrsninis_0477]

@@nichescenes when people mention shounen they almost always talk about fighting shonen. Naruto, JJK, One Piece, Bleach etc

[@arcadeguides]

I think in the end of part 1 denji dont find happyness i mean aki and power die, makima was not loving him Denji she loves Chainsawman but at the same time she does this in a way like she dont now what she really does. And in part 2 we see that denji reach his goals but also in a unhealthy way. And not what it really means and at the same time we see Nayuta/makima who needs love, in this situation Denji. But at the same time Denji looks like he dont now what he want besides beeing Chainsawman and living with Nayuta as Family. Because he also wants love from the begining of chainsaw man but he dont now that in that way. And also Denji needs to search for power and look to his problem with killing his dad. So there is so much Potental. Also the last group of fighting makima isnt there in Part 2

[@AyoSquareRoot]

Either Asa or Denji is going to die... We have 2 official artworks one with Denji cutting through Asa's head and one with Asa having a Chainsaw suggesting she turned Denji into a weapon...

[@terrigo3987]

I feel like it’ll probably be Denji. His character arc in Part 2 definitely seems to be going in a tragic direction based on the last couple of chapters. I feel like the Church arc can sort of be read as a hopeless adrenaline addicting trying to change for his loved ones, only to relapse because of his lack of a support system.

[@AyoSquareRoot]

@@terrigo3987 You hit the nail, a lot of people like to say there's no point in following Denji anymore because his development ended in part 1 and now it is just more of the same. It's not the same, in part 2 we were shown that he didnt have a happy ending, he didnt get to achieve what he wanted and his story is not one about his success or journey to become happy but of his failure to find a normal/happy life, it's more realistic for someone to relapse into old habits and find themselves back in the mud than to successfully get out of there intact. His side of the story is just as sad as Asa's side with her inner monologues with Yoru, part 2 is extremely depressing.

[@auroralee3934]

After what happened to Aki, i just dont feel like reading it anymore 😔

[@piput8533]

If I'm not invested than I'm not Invested,I can't just lie to myself and brute forcing continue reading along

[@mrsninis_0477]

that's completely fine

[@deshawn1995]

Bro if any of you are a fan of JJK in the comments yall have no right to complain

[@gama3040]

allways bet on fujimoto 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DaggetSWG]

It doesn't need defending. The paneling, the dialogue and pacing are clearly intentional, and every time someone has doubted Fujimoto he's pretty much proved them wrong. CSM is literally a big commentary on Battle manga/anime of the past couple decades, much like what Evangelion did with Mecha anime of the 80's and 90's. It's going to piss people off who don't really understand that, just like Eva did back in the day. People wanted Eva to do certain things, and maintain certain tropes common in the industry of that time, but what they got was a traumatic character study steeped in German philosophy lol. Anno felt deep deep despair when so many people reacted poorly to how Evangelion ended, to the point of lashing out in End of Evangelion, and only finally reaffirming that everyone should just accept shit, grow up and move on with the rebuild series. I'm not saying CSM is a masterpiece or anything, only that it requires a little more media literacy to kind of understand the meta commentary that's happening. The difference between Fujimoto and Anno is that Fujimoto doesn't give a fuck if people understand what he's doing and he's fine with people enjoying the series in whatever way they want to. I don't think he lets if impact him personally in the same way that Anno did.

[@mrsninis_0477]

@Jurglenuts it literally does though. So many people mischaracterize Yoshida and Asa to no end, it's actually crazy. Even more so than Denji somehow. A ton of people who read part 2 also don't seem to care about the themes and motifs at all, they only care about more shonen aspects of the series. The writing is a bit shaky in part 2 at times but overall it's still quite good. There are so many examples of genuinely great writing in part 2 in the church arc and afterwards. The only part of part 2 I feel is rushed is the prison break arc, and it wasn't even really that rushed. ? Do you think Fujimoto not really caring how people interpret his stories is toxic? I genuinely have no idea what you mean.

[@GoatLuffy_97]

For me personally, CSM part 2 hasn't fallen off. A recent example of a manga that's fallen off is Tokyo Revengers after the Tenjiku Arc. CSM part 2 is nowhere near as uninteresting, tedious, poorly written, awfully paced, or unnecessary as the final arc(s) of Tokyo Revengers. That being said, I dropped CSM part two because I just wasn't feeling it. Also, the artwork has declined. Not sure why that's the case. I just hope Fujimoto is doing well health wise.

[@mrsninis_0477]

completely fair. I'd suggest binging part 2 when it finishes. After rereading part 2 it flows really well

[@petobir]

is it so hard for csm fans to just enjoy longer storytelling compared to part 1, would they want something like jjk to happen and it just fucking up the story?

[@vomilksined8047]

Fusayama Hatsuki))

[@almighty00x]

5:41 yuta might be bigger than maki

[@chromelenon2524]

Season 2 needs to be defended????? This is news to me

[@rrbcraftergames3361]

So uhhh, latest chapters…waddya think? Shits getting insane now.

[@ShonenOuji]

I definitely think the last 5 chapters or so are a lot better plot wise. But I also still stand by my take on the art. Today’s chapter wasn’t looking so good.

[@AM17titan]

@@ShonenOujiplot wise ? It’s all characters acting just dumb It’s definitely funny but not entertaining as a story

[@mrsninis_0477]

@@AM17titan you do realize that something being funny means that you're entertained?

[@burgernoodle7589]

I preferred part 1 but part 2 is still fantastic

[@vaghelakuldip572]

Your right.

[@IDKKK1207]

i love part 2, but i can definitely understand the dissatisfaction from some fans

[@enanebres6481]

😮 2:39 3:48 3:50 3:34 7:48

[@hippopotomostrosesquippeda5804]

If it isn't the "guys, trust me part 2 will soon get good soon" video number 3

[@mrsninis_0477]

part 2 is quite good right now and has been ever since the end of the prison break arc

[@ItsYoungProd]

I really like part 2 so far but I definitely understand why people are having criticisms towards it

[@shadow_19c1z]

“The art is trash-“bro wtf? Chainsaw man has the best arts in anime and literally tbh I only saw someone drawing good legs in anime history ever and it’s fujimoto plus part 2 is peak💀🙏and they’re just jealous cuz it’s goated manga/anime, it’s literally peaksaw man.

[@smirg2975]

The art was really good in the early part 2 and now it's not.

[@h_ahmed4979]

two thinks bother me about chainsawman manga . 1- the few content that we get it weekly even sometimes every two weeks (I don't have a problem if it become a monthly manga to fix that). 2- The Art for example you can see the different between the katana man in last chapter and chapter one.

[@sara61224]

what are they talking about i personally like part 2 way more than part 1

[@Fami_mcdonalds]

Nah csm part 1 is better than current csm part 2

[@sara61224]

@@Fami_mcdonalds its my opinion😇

[@Fami_mcdonalds]

@@sara61224 and you were referring to the people who say Part 1 is better than part 2 so I said an opinion too lol

[@sara61224]

@@Fami_mcdonalds yes but like u said "Nah", denying my opinion i think idk i dont wanna sound like im assuming😭

[@Fami_mcdonalds]

@@sara61224 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

[@DarkTenseii]

this is was a good video but falling devil is helping lead the world into the ultimate terror even it didnt want to entirely want to kill asa it did a ton of damage to the world causing catastrophes all over the world

[@maplecolor1]

👍🏾

[@KlineMx]

Where is the fake chainsaw man at fujimoto she is forgot about it 😂

[@elpug99]

Yoshida is fakesaw man, remember my words

[@mrsninis_0477]

it's likely either Yoshida or Seigi.

[@Okkotsu86275]

I don’t know if this is a hot take or not, but I actually prefer Asa and been really enjoying part 2.

[@OdaNobunaga15]

I don’t know I’ve been 50/50. Some moments of Part 2 has been good but others I don’t care about. Maybe it’s because, and I’m probably going to get shit for this, I don’t really care that much for Asa.

[@דמכי11]

👇

[@Jermstuckonpercs]

4:10 I have a disagree part 1 Denji and part 2 Denji is different and he’s growing so much

[@robbyw.8616]

28th

[@ZackSNetwork]

Lots of series fall off eventually. JJK fell off after Shibuya. Bleach has more downs than ups in its arcs.

[@arandomjjbafan1744]

Jjk never fell off

[@JimboS1ice999]

lmaooooo

[@JimboS1ice999]

"it's not that it's bad guys it's that denji could be MORE of a loser horn dog like in part 1, the way we like him!" he's still the same loser as in part 1 no progression the kid is literally the most stagnant character i've ever read. And the only reason people are unhappy with part 2 or feel the need to cope for it is because they switched the main protag to asa a female and not the incel self insert they're normally used too. Which is weird because a lot of CSM head pretend Fujimoto is great at writing females so you'd think they'd LOVE part 2 more than part 1... you know the ending is going to crash and flop hard on it's face like fami did after asa kicked her right?

[@EpicMinecraftFail]

I agree it's not as good people are just coping because of favoritism/their first Shonen

[@mrsninis_0477]

funny saying Denji hasn't changed at all, especially after chapter 166 (:

[@ghalminassim9492]

To put it simply it's a boring ah manga 😂😂 I just don't care about any character they all are boring 😊😊

[@mrsninis_0477]

if you find Nayuta to be a boring character you have an objectively bad opinion

[@real_rutmen]

Chainsaw man was trash, is trash, and will be trash

[@Ash-ep1nz]

Shonen Ouji makes a CSM video.. most of it will be about how the series has fell off. Lol Too predictable.