In Defense of Season 8 of The Walking Dead...

Everyone knows that The Walking Dead declined in viewership over the years. From the countless “This shows still on” comments I’ve seen hundreds of times to the “Yeah I stopped watching when they killed THIS character or THAT character When they left the prison when Negan came” There are dozens of reasons people give as to why they stopped watching the show, but one thing remains constant across the viewership numbers; they dropped drastically over the course of Season 8.
0:00 - 1:46 - The Defense of Season 8...
1:47 - 8:14 - The Good
8:15 - 11:48 - The Bad
11:49 - 17:21 - The Ugly
17:22 - 19:17 - Closing Remarks
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[@dalegend7215]

I remember how angry i was when Carl died, knowing what was coming to his character, it was really the writer's biggest mistake.

[@RAV3.]

Not rlly Carl was quite a boring and shallow character. The only thing that made him important was that he was Rick's son. The actor wasnt rlly good either

[@notsolilguat6487]

carls character was really starting to become ruthless and fearless. As for the acting his actor would've more than likely changed with the time jump

[@baconpowder706]

Wasn't really the writer's fault, he got screwed over by AMC

[@Laura_Norda]

@@baconpowder706 I thought he wanted to off to college/uni. I might be mistaken.

[@natvelo]

@@notsolilguat6487 really doubt it, they didnt change enids actor

[@seananigans3741]

I’ve always thought the line “my mercy prevails over my wrath” was a perfect redemption and beginning of a new arc for Rick. I think it was a perfect ending for Rick’s arc that season and the whole murder rick persona/arc in general.

[@TheDrexLord]

Best part of the season, but wasted with him leaving in 9x05, and still not worth carl dieing and could have been done differently without killing the most important character

[@_jay_6132]

Even tho he’s prolly gonna be murder rick again in his new show

[@kontraktarn7342]

Bro i completely agree, especially that sentence. Its so powerful in that moment.

[@brandonsantiago2298]

@@TheDrexLord to me killing Carl made perfect sense because Rick in the show has a more vile deeper hatred towards Negan than in the comics. And if you wanted Rick to spare Negan at the end like in the comics then it wouldn’t make sense for Rick to do that unless something drastically happened that changed his mind/point of view. Hence Carls death. It made perfect sense but I of course always thought that Rick might’ve died at the end of the show and then Carl would’ve continued the series in a spin off or whatnot. I always thought Carl would be the future. Never thought he would die 3 seasons before the show ended.

[@iamfriendly6483]

@@brandonsantiago2298 it made sense but still a big mistake for the future, Till this day watching season 11 I still think of how carl's death was A HUGE mistake I can't stop thinking on what would have happen if he were in season 11 ending. I hope they de cannonize carl's death although there is absolute zero chance that will happen.

[@mathijnd]

Carls most interesting material was literally the next story arc. Its beyond me that they thought killing him would be smart. The whisperers, the commonwealth with Ricks death and Carl taking control. Why kill him off right before his most interesting story. So sad

[@camd_editz1195]

The show is about Rick, the comcis are about Carl and Rick. Killing Carl wasn't a bad decision, lmao

[@mathijnd]

@@camd_editz1195 worst decision in television history

[@nahhh5552]

@@camd_editz1195 it was the worst decision made in the entire show

[@yourmother9747]

@@camd_editz1195 massive L of an opinion

[@camd_editz1195]

@@yourmother9747 lol

[@MeMelon]

Before even watching I'm glad this is a video. Season 8 had some big writing issues but I think this season above all else Andrew Lincoln CARRIED. The storyline was convoluted and the writing gets eye rolling but Rick Grimes stays consistent the entire way through and makes this one of the most compelling seasons just for watching Rick.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Oh you’re gonna like this video 😂

[@TheDrexLord]

That's true but that devolment only lasted for 5 episodes and in the rick and michone show will probably have him screw closer to murder jacket rick than new beginning rick

[@TheRubberMatch]

I haven’t watched yet either but dude you took the thoughts straight out of my head. For all the walking dead’s shortcomings, Andrew Lincoln as Rick Grimes will always stand as one of the best performances in TV history

[@charlessmith9753]

I mean this in complete honesty, sincerity and curiosity, what writing issues? I don’t understand what people mean when they say that. Please elaborate what the exact problem was cause I’ve seen so many people say this but I feel like it’s some confirmation bias.

[@Ms.Andrist]

Andrew Lincoln always carried the show on his shoulders.

[@ZainIsInPain]

My favorite episode was the one with Ezekiel when his entire crew dies. It really humbled him and showed us more of the true side of Ezekiel, was also awesome seeing Jerry cut that guy in half. It was scary seeing how all his soldiers instantly, without hesitation, just threw themselves onto Ezekiel to protect him. He knew he didn't deserve that and it was interesting seeing his struggle with that. Also I'm a Muslim, and I recognized the phrase "My mercy prevails over my wrath" and when I searched it up I found out that it was actually also a big phrase used in the Qu'ran, so that was pretty cool to find out.

[@commodorezero]

The first half of season 8 was very good. I feel people were already done with TWD because of season 7 and the Saviors arc was stretched way too long.

[@wolfeevi]

i’m a muslim and i found out the same way you did, definitely awesome

[@DJDeezyThaTruth]

-I Thought It Was The Weakest Writing ✍🏾

[@lordfrieza1437]

I think if season 7 and 8 was one whole season of 16 episode, in first half they show communities under the savior rule and in the second half they rebel against them removing all the useless stuff from season 7 and 8 it'd without a doubt be the greatest season ever

[@brandonsantiago2298]

I 100% agree. I did not expect season 7 to be completely about living under the saviors boot and then finding a way to get he manpower to fight back. Then we have the entire season 8 which even though it was filled with a lot action, their was boring plot lines, the dialogue stopped feeling as real as before, characters started doing stupid things and since they were main characters on the show they could survive anything. If they’d taken the whole season 7 and 8 and done 1 season of 20 episodes it would’ve bee great

[@lordfrieza1437]

@@brandonsantiago2298 exactly but they did fix this eventually in season 9 and i liked season 9 a lot but they had to do it again in season 10 which imo is the worst season of the whole series, like that episode with carol making soup and daryl fixing his bike is one of the worst episodes of the whole series

[@workinprogress3329]

Absolutely. They spread it out thin and it’s drag watching week to week.

[@diogomarques9228]

@@lordfrieza1437 i skipped the episode of Daryl and Carol because people were saying that it was terrible so i watched the entire show, except for that episode of season 10

[@lordfrieza1437]

@@diogomarques9228 best decision you made.

[@charlesjclin]

I watched all of the 11 seasons of TWD last year for the first time on Disney plus, and i never thought season 8 was boring. But hearing/seeing lots of fans disliking this season, I came to realized it’s because of the different ways we watch shows, just like you said!! I totally binged watch the whole season, and I was able to remember most of the stories and connect them. If I watched it in 2017 on tv, and had to wait every week to watch an episode, and try to remember what’s going on while looking for any sort of excitement and development, I’d probably stop watching too. It’s crazy the different ways we watch shows make a huge difference to our enjoyment level.

[@conkwonthechef9569]

I watched season 11 weekly on Disney plus,all the other seasons I binged usually watching two episodes at a time. Season 11 wasnty favourite

[@snerdterguson]

How on earth did you watch The Walking Dead on Disney Plus? They don't have the rights to stream it as far as I know, and it really isn't "on brand" for Disney.

[@diogomarques9228]

@@snerdterguson The Walking Dead its on Disney+

[@diogomarques9228]

@@snerdterguson at least on Portugal its on both Netflix and Disney+

[@snerdterguson]

@@diogomarques9228 weird. Not in the states.

[@HomelanderHL2]

What i like about this season and doesn't get mentioned often is how much of a Menace Morgan Jones is. Aside from Rick, Morgan Jones wipes out most of the Saviors. Embodies of a Dangerous Man that broke his peace.

[@masterman9978]

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[@masterman9978]

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[@masterman9978]

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[@denisucuuu]

thank you for mentioning his last name i thought u were talking about the other morgan in twd

[@Jsjsusi]

@@denisucuuu sorry i am on s9 on twd and haven't watched fear, but aren't the morgan in ftwd and twd the same person?

[@laux136]

I also remember not paying much attention to season 8 when it aired, but I recently binged it and I think it flows much better if you're not waiting for weekly episodes

[@BlazeBuds]

I stopped watching in season 8, but that was mostly because I got divorced during that season and didn't want to watch or do anything that reminded me of my ex, watched season 9 2 years later, then finally last month I watched the whole show from start to finish. Then watched all of fear and world beyond 😂

[@JohnZannisPies]

I cant explain it exactly but every rewatch I just find myself looking at my phone more than watching when I get to season 8

[@rogaken]

Lol. I had to watch it on my phone to keep me from doing that.

[@Jay-okc]

REALL

[@harold3165]

That's because you have a low attention span

[@JohnZannisPies]

@@harold3165 you really liked your own comment bruh hahaha come on thats really sad

[@accidentalmadness1708]

@@JohnZannisPieshow do you know?

[@ScottishScrub]

I like how casual viewers who don't know about fear never find out what happened to Morgan... he's seen at the end of s8 and then just never appears again

[@kristinc5707]

I agree that Daryl’s hatred for Dwight is boring/annoying at times but I do understand it. I think Daryl holds Dwight responsible for his time in “the hole” & was really traumatized by it. He resents him for this & for “kneeling” after everything Negan did to him & Sherry. Not only that, but the death of Denise really affected Daryl & really fueled that hatred of Dwight. Plus…. He stole the man’s bike. Lol

[@ralcogaming7674]

Bike, crossbow and vest

[@Redstar24_]

I think Carol had the best story arc with Henry and that story is super important for season 9. Also her finding him in the same spot as Sophia and telling Ezekiel about it is my favorite moment of the entire season.

[@TheDMsofDisability]

The one thing I will never understand is that it was SUPER obvious they set Morgan up to have Carl's death, but changed it last minute. He made the prison cell, he had the all life is precious notions, he was falling off the rails, and for him to die and next to Rick while still sharing his old "all life is precious" notion being in Rick's mind would have been a good pay off. Especially with how Rick was seeing everyone else lose their humanity throughout 8A

[@palpatinesboi9549]

They were always planning to kill Carl off this season when they made it. They never planned to kill off Morgan, there was no "last minute" change. I don't know where you're getting this from. That's just how you interpret it, but you're objectively wrong.

[@jordanl1911]

agree 100%. We'll probably never know for sure, but I had the same exact thing in mind (from the cell made for the most evil man ever on). They actually did a great job building it up...only to change their minds and make it Carl. It also explains why Morgan got shipped over to Fear; he was never supposed to make it out of S8.

[@TheDMsofDisability]

@@palpatinesboi9549 I mean they set up Morgan so perfectly to be the person to talk Rick into saving Negan. His entire character arc was him struggling between two sides and for him on his deathbed, in the middle of a war, to tell Rick to choose peace would be impactful. I will always personally believe that's what they set up going into season 8, but switched it when they wanted Morgan in Fear for some reason

[@marshacox5647]

I have always thought the same thing!!

[@KaraokeNig]

That would be so much better. Great idea

[@nikkicole54321]

The shiva episode is so heartbreaking. 😢 But King Ezekiel is always a highlights. ☺️

[@rageintothelight]

I can't rewatch it and won't

[@azdaze227]

Some guy is one of my top 3 episodes for sure. Maybe even my favorite.

[@sarahostewn-bv2lz]

shiva is arguably the most heartbreaking death in the show period 😭

[@MikeYm98875]

Cringe character

[@CupcakeMagee]

The fact that Carls' death is a huge focal point for season 8 is so funny to me. The reason it's so iconic is due to the fact that it is in fact one of the most hated actions taken by the show writers, but when you take a step back and begin to analyze it IT CAN ACTUALLY BE REALLY INTERESTING. The idea of the death of Rick's son pushed him to show mercy to the man who was one of the biggest threats that has ever appeared on the show is so interesting, most people would flip Rick's reaction around. Was carls character wasted potential?? absolutely man got did so dirty, but something I noticed was how Carl himself didn't NEED to be someone, just the idea of him affected SO MANY CHARACTERS!! Michonne was able to heal over her son's death and got with rick thanks to carl, carl showed a softer side of Negan that would have never appeared otherwise, Carl WAS ONE OF THE REASONS RICK KEPT GOING AND FIGHTING!!! Carls death, if it had been done better and with better reasons, would have been an incredible turning point for the show instead of one of its downfalls. (this probably sounds like me just sucking the shows dick but carl was one of my favorite characters in television and i really like analyzing characters if that's anything to show my lack of biases :P)

[@ThatGuyCanmanNC]

I havent read the comics but i dont understand how they continued after carls death, because carls death changed so much in the show, every single character stepped back and became more peaceful, which i love. Im glad he died, he had such a good death too, and what it did, needed to happen.

[@jayphillips4167]

First person I've seen that shares the same opinion with me. Although Carls death COULD have been handled better if we look at what actually happened it really makes sense. I feel as though a lot of peoples judgements are clouded by the fact they lost a beloved character the same as Rick or even Joel from The Last of Us

[@ThatGuyCanmanNC]

@@jayphillips4167 Yea i would say it perfectly ends Carls arc, he ideas and morals were put down by everyone until it was too late to for him, and so only after his death is when people realized that they need to act human, and not like monsters.

[@wisegamer706]

I agree completely. I thought season 8 was one of the best. I don’t think the show ever really got bad, it just suffered from Rick not being there and they just couldn’t keep up the quality of writing but hey they had set such a high standard with some of the masterpiece moments of the past.

[@lukepridgen3197]

you’re so right

[@reyesreviews]

For me I feel like this season had a few good points to it, and I absolutely teared up when Carl had his last talk with Judith

[@TheRealRickGrimes]

I personally like season 8! It didn't make me quit the show. The only part I disliked about season 8 was Carl dying. But besides that I liked it because Rick absolutely carried all out war. Not to mention Rick was in every episode that season besides EP11. The 100th episode was really great too!

[@toprope_]

tbh what kept me interested was that seasons 7-9 the walkers didn’t feel like a threat anymore. they’re still super dangerous, but enough time has passed that people know how to handle them for the most part and humans can get back to stuff like organized war, even if it’s just between city-states. not everyone enjoyed the turn from surviving the zombies to surviving the other humans, but post-Terminus it was clear that zombies were no longer the major threat since those could be dealt with easily. other human groups though? those were much harder to fight

[@gabriellelytle8537]

Mr. Typewriter I love you’re essays. I listen to the while driving. And I absolutely adore the show (and I’m reading the comics finally!) and I am so excited for this to air in like 30 seconds lol

[@yoloswagthuglifeselfie568]

I was literally looking for this exact subject the other day and couldn’t find any good videos on it. Never stop making TWD essays! Thanks

[@AvaMaxJax]

Finally, i love season 7 and 8, i know some episodes are boring and slow but i think alot of them are great. Personally i love the war against the saviors and Negan

[@zigibisevac]

Me too dude

[@MikeYm98875]

Terribly made , cheap writing and no where the impact of previous seasons , only goof thing is negative

[@MikeYm98875]

Negan

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

I agree with you!

[@BlazeBuds]

Was the best and longest battle of the show! Plus Negan and Rick are both amazing actors and both have great arcs. As stated in this video, the main issue was focusing on 1 story per episode, would take so long to come back around

[@RedAnimal100]

Glad you made this video. Even before seeing it. I never understood the massive hate for this season( understood some) I felt like after season 7 an all out war season like season 8 was warranted and actually fun to watch. Rick carried the season of course.

[@TheDrexLord]

Yeah well season 7 suffered from week to week and kn binge is ok while this season suffers from a bringe in my eyes because nothing really happens and they are stretching what could esaly be 8 episodes into 16 were season 7 while mabey could have been shorten it used it's time to add to the source instead of random stuff, and Daryl was so stupid this season. And every just seemed invincible and less like real people

[@franfran160]

Fully agreed, season 7 is my least favorite but 8 isn’t slow to me at all

[@jaythomas468]

I think the biggest issue with Season 8 was just the hype/excitement and expectations for the “All-Out War” story arc and it kinda didn’t end up as epic as it could’ve been (plus, a lot of the writing contrivances made things seem goofier).

[@parkeranimations3671]

How do you not understand the hate?

[@amazed7301]

i totally habe to say, I absolutely LOVED scenes like the Rick and Negan 1v1. Scenes like that kinda carried the season from falling apart.

[@joshwatson103]

Thank you so much for recognizing Do Not Send Us Astray it’s my favorite episode in Season 8 and definitely most watched episode in the season for me at least

[@gavina4241]

Great video. This season has a solid story but overall the real issue other than Carl is that it’s in a 16 episode format so everything is dragged out when it could’ve been better as 12 episodes. Morgan made the most sense to have the Carl death, he was the one that started the whole no killing idea in the first place plus he was the one who build the cell that negan would eventually live in. Ig it’s more believable rick would save negan for carl over someone like morgan, but i think it still couldve worked plus it would just be better in the long run of the series. Side note: I personally wasn’t a big fan of 7x13, like i dig with the idea of the story, but it’s executed poorly. The battle is very awkward, a lot of dumb character moments like henry letting saviors out by accident, reintroducing tobin after 2 seasons just to kill him off, the way no one woke up when walkers started biting them and falling down the stairs. So yeah basically s8 has cool ideas in mind it’s just not handled greatly imo

[@lukeoconnor3616]

To be honest, the whole show from start to finish, despite the way they did Glenn and Carl, was amazing. The biggest issue with it was that I’d say from season 8 onwards, you can only appreciate it when you watch the episodes back to back. I watched up to season 7 week to week and it was amazing, then I stopped at season 9 after a few attempts. And I have only just now binged the whole show from season 8 onwards, and I really think the show finishes as strong as it was in season 5. It just needed to be binged, rather than one episode per week.

[@nostalgiafactor733]

Facts

[@ashirai5461]

My issue with episode Do not send us Astray is that it makes no sense if u remember the details from previous seasons. Cuz in season 1 they met this scientist which told them that they are all infected and they are gonna turn anyway even if they die from anything else ( which is even proven in prison arc when that kid dies under shower and than turns ) and rick, daryl and carol were there they've seen it and heard it but they were still going with that theory that walkers blood turned them, I mean yeah maybe it did but they didn't even need to actually use it to make them turn and it's just funny for me how they all completely forgot all of a sudden about everything that scientist said and did not even consider it as an option.

[@Evanz111]

Your videos have just been constant hits over and over, I love how you find so many new angles to discuss this show with!

[@samthebrownman]

I think the reason Eugene was more easily welcomed back is because most of the militia likely recognized that they all would have died had Eugene not sabotaged the ammunition.

[@tonyvillota21]

yes finally, someone who doesn’t completely hate season 8. I binged watched it with my dad and he liked the fact it was more action. I liked also cuz it was action but it really had war vibes and shows how both groups had their own ways of attack. I also agree with you saying carls death was growth to ricks character arc. i know it could’ve been better but i enjoy it the way it was. IDC what anyone says This was an awesome season in my opinion.

[@kingpen6432]

I've always have said you can tell a casual fan from a hardcore fan with Glenn's death. I stayed around watching it even after it got "bad" it definitely had its moments of success and downfalls. I just wish I could watch 1st time again and be amazed by it.

[@alesundgresiek8389]

I felt like season 8 was my favorite season. I think the reason would be that there is this big bad villain and I knew the season would end with him either dying or loosing (Because Dead City was out when I was watching) Not that other seasons were bad but its true that it felt really different, more like an action show than a zombie show.

[@Xpertfusion]

Certainly an underrated season. It’s biggest issue was the budget but that’s a problem for most seasons of this show.

[@AlejoConejo-vb8ln]

I'm commenting this before watching the video btw. In S8's defence, it is a great season if binge-watched. The whole story takes place over the course of 3-4 DAYS. The first 9 episodes take place over the first 24 hours of the war. And watching it only one episode a week is not good because you feel the story isn't progressing as it literally took over 2 months just to piece together what happened during that first day of war from everyone's point of view. That's what turned people off I think.

[@heresnegan6825]

This video is already one of my favorites of yours and if your considering this video makes me want other whole season videos like this where you look at the good, and bad of the season

[@AsianSatire]

This makes me glad I never watched TWD when it aired. I just binge watched seasons 1-11 and like you said you were able to skip bad episodes. (Although I do remember watching some season 1 episodes when they aired)

[@Cons4Zachy]

17:25 I would agree binging the show makes it 10 times more watchable. I wish I didn’t know the spoilers but not having to hold out for a meh episode is fantastic.

[@HenriqueHCA14]

Finally a well done video that isn't a recap, i can see effort was made for this

[@TheRubberMatch]

One of my biggest gripes with season 8 is the fact that if Eugene didn’t interfere in the finale, Rick would have led his people to a slaughter. Wish Rick actually defeated Negan with better tactics and didn’t have to get totally saved by Eugene

[@OMGDDAAVVIIDD]

I’ve been going through my own re-watch. Going through Fear the Walking dead, I just finished season 8 of OG Walking dead. I totally agree, with streaming, being able to watch episode after episode makes it easier to watch. Back then having to wait for certain storylines to wrap up, only to find it underwhelming is what I think drove so many away. The hardcore point to certain deaths that made them watching the show. Ultimately I think it’s the pacing to the start of season 7 and the whole pace of season 8 that was its downfall *side note I’ve been loving your videos man. Really well laid out and thoughtful!

[@darioscomicschool1111]

I watched Episode 8 of Season 7 "Hearts Still Beating".... man what an EPISODE! At the End of the Ep, I shed a Mantear....or two. Thank you for sending me on this Journey! Without you I wouldn't have watched it. Your Enthusiams pointed me in the right direction! This show is saving my life... in a way.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Glad to hear it!!

[@Saiyan1229]

This season was where i had to take a long ass break binge watching the whole series in preperation for the last season. The whole “no killing thing” got so damn old so fast with morgan and then other people started doing it and i couldnt help but roll my eyes

[@Sovereign77]

I honestly liked this season, never considered stopping the show once. Guess I'm lucky

[@cliffjumper416]

Same. Me and my dad watched the show to its end and still rewatch it. We will be watching the spin-offs together as well

[@zigibisevac]

Same bro

[@cristobalmonroy2446]

My favorite episode of this season is 14, because rick in his killer jacket, he's like "man, give it to me always" and I saw it very recently, just revisiting the series. An episode with Rick and Morgan as protagonists will always work, since Despite the little screen time they were given, their affinity for the story is unique and probably a lot of people missed out on it due to the disaster of the end of Chapter 8 and all of Chapter 9. I can think of as many ideas of how to make Rick change his mind without killing Carl as they would be: 1. See how Carl is determined to kill Negan, making him become everything Hershell tried to help him not to, so he leaves him alive as a show to everyone, but especially his son, that things can be different. 2. Rick sees in the communities themselves not only a way to defeat Negan, but a new future and that this also involves recovering concepts such as justice and humanity, not survival. Carl lives and supports his father in this way, just like in the comic. Those are some, but there are more. My point is that, indeed, that was the biggest mistake made by the showrunners at the time and that in many ways, it was what killed the show for me. Rick has lived by and for Carl since the beginning, his entire journey is about keeping his son alive, his engine. To take that away from him was to make his character wander aimlessly and his departure felt almost necessary.

[@Avi-rl6qb]

I always felt like Morgan could have replaced Carl's death. If they kept Morgan as a pacifist his death could have pushed Rick's character in the same direction that Carl's did. Morgan even built the cell negan gets thrown into. I always felt like this is how the writer's were intending the story to go.

[@iconicszn735]

i 100 percent agree i stopped watching around season 8 and like before season 11 came out had a thought to rewatch it and always wondered to myself why did i stop watching it this is still an amazing show but like u said i get the attachment we may have had with some characters made us stop watching

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

Thanks for making this video! I really enjoyed season 8, though I waited for the bluray and watched it all back to back, so as you say watching it week to week might have been less fulfilling. Still good to see someone talking about its strengths!

[@tomfrakking9426]

You hit the head on the nail. Absolute perfect review. I always thought there were a lot of good things in s8, the pacing was just off. It's not as good as it could have been. I love the 20 minute format

[@TheDHCreator]

I was serving a mission for my Church when Seasons 8 and 9 were on the air, so I really enjoyed binging then when I came back. XD I loved this video man! Cannot wait for another one of your Walking Dead or other deep dives!

[@greatwhitebuffalockobenben1019]

Great video man! I’m literally watching it now on amc+ “ the key” and “do not send us astray “ I never realized how well they went went into each other .. Rick gets there right after fight w negan, the horn relays.. great few episodes in a row .. love all the Rick Morgan scenes ..

[@holymolystudios8467]

Season 8 is where I also stopped for a while . I remmeber seeing the trailer for season 9 with the whisperers and I had to get back into it. I went back and watched season 8 then and I remember it being super hard to get thru

[@hollyking8626]

So as I am rewatching the series I realize Carol and Morgan had a pretty good friendship that no one really talks about. Every one talks about Rick and Morgan. Wondering if you could or would do a video on their relationship? Thanks.

[@SportsWithPace]

Season 8 is mad underrated

[@bennorfolk6633]

Interesting point at the end. As I only just watched TWD, I ended up binging season 8 in 1 day, so I didn't have the major gripes that some had. So from my perspective, ig you are spot on.

[@tarapatrick532]

I agree with your assessment. For me the season is better when you consider it in the whole arch of the story. But going through it week by week it dragged. I kept watching, but it was hard.

[@fIashboy]

Ur the goat love all of the last of us and walking dead content, always brings my hype back with the show

[@littlemiller6]

Every season was beautiful

[@ruizbrian1051]

🤣, almost spit out my coffee at the sound effect at 5:42.

[@kleinerbar8953]

I notice the same thing. I watched the show over streaming for the first time an I haven't notice all the "awful" things my friends told me about or I thought they weren't that bad.

[@misterchico99]

I would agree that season 8 had its lows and I respect your opinion me personally though season 7-8 are my favorites and it doesn’t have too much to do with the episodes themselves but the story as a whole it was telling. The rivalry between Rick and Negan is one of the best stories that TWD has shown I think. Negan being the one character that breaks Rick and strip his power was good and the journey Rick has to take to gain his power back was one of the things I love about season 8. Overall though I see your points and would agree it definitely has its ups and downs

[@sethperez9865]

Its really crazy because i feel like ive had the same opinion for a long time and i finally get to see someone talk about it, because when this season first aired i was so disappointed and having to wait each week for a meh episode was such a bummer esp once we got to that carl episode i lost all hope because ik wed never see a old man carl story line like in the comics and id always hate that decision but honestly after watching again on netflix and binging it straight thru i really came to appreciate s8 and what it brought to the show it was like a foot stone for what was to come and evolve in the future if the show and i liked that ( still minus carl dying ofc lmao )

[@sethboyd9877]

I didn’t watch twd until 10 seasons were out i rewatched all of it twice and the foreshadowing when u realize it. It’s so good.

[@vincentgirard4950]

Chandler Riggs had a stream a few years ago mentioning that he wanted to continue college and live a normal life. Don’t know if he truly meant that, but probably why he was written off.

[@DanVisuals]

KEEP THESE VIDEOS COMING! 💙💙💙

[@EubyGamingRES]

I didn’t have an issue with the season, story wise, except for Carl dying. The main thing for me is like you said, the season felt different, it tried to be more like an action show, and just felt really cheap for it. The action scenes themselves had no real choreography, just mid/close up shots of people shooting, no real set pieces. I just got bored of all those scenes. I didn’t mind character scenes at all. I did fall off mid season though, and didn’t get back into it until just before 11C, and finally continued from mid season 8, but i’m glad i did because i really enjoyed season 9 onwards

[@geckz716]

10:00 what a fantastic point, I didn't hate the pacing because I watched it for the first time on Disney plus over a span of two weeks and really enjoyed it, and I can understand why waits causes pacing issues

[@gerardogaxiola]

You should do a pros and cons for every season of The Walking Dead just like this video, I’d really enjoy watching those type of videos.

[@MrChronicpayne]

I never thought about the _why_ , but looking back I also stopped at S8 and clearly it was no coincidence.

[@langdonledwig3734]

It is much better to experience all in one time instead of weeks then months apart

[@kellydavid8169]

Totally nailed it!! If you binge it, it’s actually very good. Having to wait weeks to see certain characters is the big reason I stopped watching it. I just kind of got bored after season 10. And I didn’t go back and finish it until recently. I chose to start at season 5 (since I had seen seasons 1-4 about four or five times already). Binging the show made me interested in the Walking Dead world again. I immediately binged Fear right after and I really enjoyed that too. That’s another show I just lost interest in as well. If AMC were able to release a season at a time, instead of week by week, more people would watch the new spin offs.

[@darioscomicschool1111]

Can't Wait!

[@thickchip2694]

Such little time actually passes between 6x10 and 8x16. It’s told slow for that reason n definitely hit the mark when binge watched. One of my favorite franchises of all time

[@CallsignHicks]

You've perfectly explained how I felt about it. I watched this since the day it aired and then dropped of in this season as well. I only came back because it was ending, and felt the same way and came to the same conclusion. Week by week it's a slog, bing watching made this season far better.

[@CallsignHicks]

The main thing that annoyed me about Carl's death was the instant invalidation of his sacrifice.

[@PikachuSlaysricescum]

Rewatching season 8 now and I completely agree. The story lines up but the pacing and carls death really threw a wrench in the whole season for me the first watch

[@royrogers4732]

Can you do some more Walking Dead episode review videos they're my favorite on your channel good job on those I think that's my favorite series of videos you've done awesome.

[@frostmorph6]

Maybe it's just me but I didn't forget about the foreshadows in the first episode. As soon as Rick shot the glass from the tree I made the connection immediately. I thought it was obvious.

[@Zombie_Trooper]

I've always loved season 8 because season 8, and more so season 6, are exactly what I always wanted from a show in this genre. We can put on our Freshman film/TV analysis glasses and pick it to pieces until the cows come home, or people just get angry that the show broke from the norm and made wild decisions (SOME OF WHICH PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW THE FULL STORY ON), but I enjoyed everything about it. I always wanted to see warfare in this genre, and not the 10 minute action sequence kind, the actual "this is going to be tedious and painful" results of war. We see our team go ham and take names for 4 solid episodes and then we start seeing the results of that and the cracks within the Saviors, and then true, unexpected loss, followed by the politics of protection pacts and the value of building relations, all capped off with a massive moral quandary and a touch of espionage. I just loved getting those perspectives and storytelling opportunities. Most say this show was best when it was them surviving on the road, but I've seen that 5001 times in the zombie sub genre, it's old hat, I was ready for something different and season 8 delivered for me. It's far from perfect, but I'd rather they shoot for the fences and miss instead of just the same old same.

[@franfran160]

I really liked Morgan’s stories in season 8 especially the parallels between him and Carol. In season 6 they were literally fighting each other between all life is precious and having to kill to protect Alexandria, in season eight they were complete opposites. Carol did what she had to do but was feeling extreme remorse for all the bodies she had while trying to help Morgan not lose himself in the killing. They made amazing soldiers especially together, while also showing the mental effects of having no choice but to kill to protect your loved ones.

[@ColorFilmArchives]

Stopped around when Negan killed Glenn and Abraham. 'Member watching as a kid, 'specially the prison; just got Netflix again so can't wait to re-watch and watch what I missed.

[@joemoney7640]

You are 100% right with everything you said here, and also with binge watching it on Netflix was better!

[@1983metsfan]

I said this along time ago. Week to week season 8 was rough but when binge watching it watches must better

[@sashamonique3922]

I am one of those people that rewatch saga series/movies. Call me basic I guess 😂. I just love to relive what I like and go through it again with the characters. To me, i feel more connected bc your connected to the same character through different times/events in their timeline. My hubby gives me cramp about it. He’ll say and I quote “Your on your benign again? Alright, let me know when your done. 😑😒” 😂 P.S. yes the round back is so sentimental to watch. Example-Harry Potter in movie 8, going back to his hole under the stairs. The growth! Ah! Can’t get enough!❤

[@joshgulrud5635]

I liked the fight inside the dark building with Rick and Neegan. *shrug*

[@jakedefusco8373]

Rick has a character arc in season 8 very similar to Matt in season 3 of Daredevil, and it a beautiful if way to send off our main characters.

[@Multiiverseditz]

I also stopped at season 8 not because I thought the season was boring it was what they did with Carl. After episode 9 I couldn’t continue I did finish the season eventually and it was okay, but I didn’t touch the show for 3 and half years it affected me that much. then after Rick left it wasn’t the walking dead for me anymore sure Judith, Daryl, Carol, etc. we’re still there but it was never the same. I only got to season 9 before I quit watching entirely, I’ve only seen clips of seasons 10 and 11 and don’t get me wrong they look good but I don’t think I’m ready and I don’t think I ever will be. This is long enough but Carl was my absolute favorite character and if you can’t already tell by my pfp I adore Chandler Riggs. Killing him off was the absolute worst decision.

[@kimberlywilmoth9184]

Carl is my 3rd favorite character, right behind Rick and Daryl. Killing him was a catastrophic mistake.

[@youngwashrag]

Was the biggest TWD fan for a long time but this was definitely the season that lost me. I didn't remember much of what happened in this season and the early part of 9 but I think that has more to do with a couple of concussions than anything else. This was the first season that I skipped episodes. I would try to catch up over the week, but I was busy, and it wasn't streaming, so I would end up catching the ends of episodes before the premier on Sunday. I really stopped watching when Rick got blown up, just wasn't that interested, had other stuff to do, and that's how it's been for a couple of years. In January of this year though, I decided to finally finish the show. I was going to just start off in the middle of season 7, but I thought it'd be nice to rewatch my favorite seasons over again for the first time in a long time (I'd seen seasons 1-5 at least 3 times each, owned on DVD etc). Season 7 was iffy, but had some strong episodes. You don't really feel the decline until season 8. A lot of creative decisions SUCK. TWD is ABOUT Carl. Having a whole season with action scenes when your action scenes aren't great, isn't great. Despite having easily the most bullets firing ever, it is easily the most boring season of the show (yes even more so than S2.) It isn't the worst season, looking at you s9 and s11, but it is sooooo boring. Maybe without my head injuries I still would have forgotten most of what happened. I guess the only good thing that came out of it for me was character development for Rick, but then he's gone less than half a season later and you still could've gotten that development with Carl being alive.

[@zzoa.]

Random idea I got while watching, why not make scene rankings or compilations of best Rick moments, Carl moments, best writing or so? I'd love more twd content 😊 I'm going to start watching again, since I stopped bc of Glenn, maybe now that I know how things turn out I can enjoy it more haha

[@SoujiroNagi]

Wait did he say that they use weapons with Walker blood on it to infect people? By this logic shouldn't Abraham get infected and turn to a walker when Sasha was going all crazy and stabbing all the walkers and then sliced Abraham's arm with the same knife? 🤔

[@butchbluth]

this was the video i learned scotts name. he was always there and i thought he was cool but straight up didnt know his name

[@groovymyers1354]

You should do a video similar to this about season 7.

[@alexanderthered5603]

Killing Carl was just an unforgivable action of the show.

[@Dirik619]

Majin Morgan turning into John Wick and chasing people down was the best part

[@MarrsJ]

I hated that they killed off Carl (forcibly too if you're aware that AMC booted him off, the college thing was never the reason why he left). In my eyes not only was it the worst decision they made for any character, but both Chandler and Carl deserved so much better, I would have loved if they changed the story a bit to where Carl was a more pivotal character in season 8 and actively trying to change Rick throughout and then maybe when Rick leaves Carl steps up as the defacto leader, and then instead of Rick and Michonne series, it's Rick, Michonne and Carl where Carl and Michonne try to seek out Rick together

[@Proxyyy825]

they should’ve just instead have morgan died and be the one to convince rick to let negan live or as you said

[@chaos1061]

The downs of season 8 you brought up in the beginning of the video was exactly my reasons for falling out from twd at this point, my other thing is that the first 8 seasons take place over 2 years (a lil more) and they all went to "fck it" mode and just washed each other over and every point, its been 2 years!!

[@cristiancontreras4001]

Completely agree with you on Ricks arc.

[@an4rchy72]

Started watching the show a few months ago and just finished s8 and tbh that last half was fantastic

[@ErinJeanette]

I think season 5 was my favorite, but the season six finale was a masterclass in dread. I barely remember anything after that. I miss Rick. The only thing that came close to being scary was the whisperers and the heads on spikes.

[@the_sixxness]

When it comes to The Walking Dead I can pinpoint the exact moment I checked out. It was the conversation between Rosita and Sasha as they walked to the Saviors compound in season 7. While these two were talking about their mutual ex boyfriend they come across a pair of zombies and casually dispatch them. At that point I realized that the show's narrative had changed from a show about the zombie apocalypse that occasionally devolves into a soap opera into a soap opera that sometimes devolves into a show about the zombie apocalypse.

[@OfficialQwiKClan]

I just re watched season 8, and after a really indepth re watch I think it's one of the better seasons imo, I love the action, the war aspects and everything happening in the apocalypse