In Defense Of Steven Universe Future...

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Steven Universe Future is an American animated limited series created by Rebecca Sugar for Cartoon Network. It serves as an epilogue to the 2013-2019 original series Steven Universe and its follow-up 2019 animated film Steven Universe: The Movie. It premiered on December 7, 2019, and concluded on March 27, 2020.
The series focuses on the aftermath of the events of Steven Universe, where humans and Gems coexist in harmony after the end of the war between the Crystal Gems and Gem Homeworld. Without the threats of the Diamonds or corrupted Gems, Steven must deal with the everyday challenges that still come with his now relatively peaceful life, and question his new life objectives.

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@Irl_Peri
@Irl_Peri Жыл бұрын
I wanna point out that the monster thing IS A MELTDOWN!!!! The hug only stopped him from destroying the entire east coast!! So yeah I agree with you. Meltdowns can be highly destructive in real life as well. I had uncontrollable meltdowns in the past. I’m autistic, so it happens sometimes. But the monster, hell, the entire thing with pink Steven just made me feel so seen because someone who had a very VERY similar personality to me also had the same struggles.
@legojarjarbinks2564
@legojarjarbinks2564 Жыл бұрын
why you're easy to please
@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy
@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have some struggles with my emotions because I grew up in a house where we weren't really taught how to regulate them, specially negatives ones, and sometimes when it gets too much I have the tendency to "explode" generally any negative emotions I have manifest as anger and I end up saying stuff that hurt the people around me, I'm working on it now but back when future came out I still had difficulty admitting I had a problem, so seeing a character I grew up with show similar reactions to mine (although his anger manifested in a physical way while mine was vocal) was refreshing and at the same time it made me feel seen it was kinda of a wake up call, so as much as this show has flaws it still has a very special place in my heart
@アリス-h9t
@アリス-h9t Жыл бұрын
@@legojarjarbinks2564 ?
@raptorboss6688
@raptorboss6688 Жыл бұрын
@@legojarjarbinks2564 why are you such a clown?
@notatallfunctional
@notatallfunctional Жыл бұрын
@@legojarjarbinks2564 Why can’t you let people enjoy things?
@JGurds
@JGurds Жыл бұрын
I think 99% of Future's problems can be attributed to the fact that it was only given 20 episodes. They had to fit so much in so little and had to drop interesting storylines like Rhodonite's origin story
@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse
@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse Жыл бұрын
I think it's more accurate to say it chose to focus on storylines which weren't necessary within those 20 episodes. Stevens mental health mainly, look, I have mental health issues i respect them trying to cover the topic but at the end of the day, it was a show to resolve the plotholes and issues left by the old one, and by making Stevens problems the focus it takes away from that aspect of what future was trying to be and makes it feel rushed.
@NintendoMeister2260
@NintendoMeister2260 Жыл бұрын
If it was given at least 30 episodes mainly focusing on Steven's mental health problems the season could've been better.
@cybovrox2551
@cybovrox2551 Жыл бұрын
@@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse Agreed but i still feel everything we needed couldnt be captured in 20 episodes ngl- if they had a nice balance of stevens mental health and loose end resolution the series wouldve been nicer (and longer). devastated by how many characters were missed because of the short time it had :(
@stevenrogers2684
@stevenrogers2684 Жыл бұрын
Probably could've done with less filler episodes.
@klamacz47
@klamacz47 Жыл бұрын
Still their fault, even with so Little time they decided to make unimportant to the overall plot episodes
@bluecreator7779
@bluecreator7779 Жыл бұрын
As someone with bad ptsd. Specifically C-PTSD I'll defend SUF with my life. The way Steven acts with his PTSD is so similar to me. Like that one video saying Steve was "having teenage angst" teenage angst?! Bro that's PTSD! And I love how flawed Steven is in SUF. When I was a kid I was so sweet and quiet and seen as like peaceful old soul but as I got older and my trauma started to affect me I got angry, I had violent and aggressive thoughts daily. Yes Steven the sweet, happy, pacifist child, can become a much more angry and violent person with age due to his PTSD. I love that SUF doesn't shy away from the more ugly sides of mental health. Lastly the way Steven still hates his mom so much is accurate too!!! My parents were also abused and I know that but that dosent erase my anger towards them for what they did to me. Pink was abused and that sucks its the family trauma cycle but Steven is not obligated to forgive his mom even if she too was a victim.
@grammarnazi3876
@grammarnazi3876 Жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for this comment!!! So much of the SUF criticism comes from people who don't seem to understand the true depth of disorders such as PTSD, and who seem to exclusively attribute Steven's [self] destructive behaviour to bad writing, which imo is a very unfair and ignorant basis to bash a show for. I'm not trying to say SUF is perfect, but it just feels like a lot of the criticism seems to be misunderstanding its point, or just plain trying to hate on it for the purpose of hating. As a fellow PTSD-haver (for lack of a better term) I'm really, really glad that there are more people who are able to empathize with Steven and his response to unhealed trauma (if that makes sense). Sending lots of love!!
@kms_domo
@kms_domo Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience. I 100% agree.
@jennypagan6120
@jennypagan6120 9 ай бұрын
Damn c-ptsd? What happened? Are you ok? What'd your parents do to you? Whatever they did I'm sorry that happened to you... And I've dealt with trauma before it sucks
@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705
@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705 7 ай бұрын
thanks please be well can relate although no ptsd but still good luck dealing with it
@The_Honey_Diaries
@The_Honey_Diaries 7 ай бұрын
As someone with minor PTSD, I completely agree
@flowerbit4137
@flowerbit4137 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people find season 5 and Future to feel a bit unsatisfying for a lot of reasons, but I think it’s important to remember that the original series was cut sooner than Rebecca and the writers intended for it to be (this was the sacrifice made by the wonderful episode of Ruby and Sapphires wedding). So there very much literally are missing pieces to the overall series. But I think the crewniverse not only did the best they could with what they were given, but I think they also made something very thoughtful and well done.
@bfbfan12
@bfbfan12 Жыл бұрын
maybe if they didnt rely on filler episodes they wouldve had time, the show is outright terrible there is no justification
@anthealea1869
@anthealea1869 Жыл бұрын
@@bfbfan12what about adventure time or regular show? If you don’t like those either then Fine sure. But if you watch either of those 😳
@UncleChubbz
@UncleChubbz Жыл бұрын
​@@anthealea1869 but their filler actually pays off, all that filler and I still don't like/don't care about most of the townies
@Its_Asteria
@Its_Asteria Жыл бұрын
@@bfbfan12 to be fair the reason the filler was there was to give them time to create the main story based episodes. that's what I've come to realize anyway. a lot of shows use filler when working on larger episodes or to give fans a break between serious plots to give us a breather. but some of the filler in SU was a bit lacking. It was at least good for the world building on earth at times.
@flowerbit4137
@flowerbit4137 Жыл бұрын
@@bfbfan12 I disagree. Yeah a few townie episodes were totally unnecessary, but most of them had a purpose.
@Ash-hl2mr
@Ash-hl2mr Жыл бұрын
It’s funny and ironic that people are hating on Steven for not being that overly happy and positive kid, when it’s teen Steven that is trying to show the Gems and the audience that’s not who he is anymore. People need to take a hint. The people who got that were the ones who showed true understanding for Steven and the writers.
@socriabbas454
@socriabbas454 8 ай бұрын
Yeah but that doesnt warrant how Steven grow up to be worse than he was before, if anything he should be better since he literally stopped the diamonds tyranny by seeing the best in people. Kid always been positive despite all the struggles he went through but suddenly he cant cope with that anymore because the show needed drama ? the original series already had dramas with Steven not having a fucking mental break down every 5 minutes, whats even more is that he always been this passive person even during the movie with his fight with Spinel, he wasnt fighting her back, instead he was just blocking and dodging her attacks. In SU Future he's the one who issued a fight with Jasper and even insulted her to her face. Thats not how progression works. Dude has no self awareness that he almost ruined someone's relationship becausee he cant bear to see his friends moving on and growing up as a person WHICH SOMETHING HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IN THE SHOW. And then we also have to harp on Pink diamonds death, Rebecca sure love to pull Pink diamons dead corpse just to create drama and tension
@Meowth_HMC
@Meowth_HMC 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree in a way but It makes sense that hes feeling some of these feelings now instead of then. For one he has been going through so much trauma so fast he hasn't really had a break to even cope or think about how he really feels like in a year he had almost died felt like he almost killed his friends always gets compared to his mom either how great she was or how terrible then comes to find out oh wow my mom was pink diamond then he has to deal with all that shit too its way to much for any one person to deal with so fast. And now that the universe is safe and people are growing apart it would make sense for steven to feel not needed all he really did was help people help the town help the gems but with people doing things on their own now and no more bad guys to fight really he feels unwanted doesnt even know what to do anymore so in all honesty it makes sense he'd be having break downs every 5 minutes. But I feel like that all could've been changed if they did make the show a bit happier like we arent watching this magical show to feel something we're probably already feeling depressed no we watch things to escape from that and I think the show would've been much better if it was jsut a simple slice of life show about what steven is doing and him being his normal happy understanding self like its ok for him to be upset and go through things alone but in the show they did make it felt like they were making him go through even more rough stuff and making him be a bad person just to turn him into that monster just to help all the other people hes helped realize shit they never did anything for him and thats not a good reason to make a show. So should've just ended it after the movie.@@socriabbas454
@armiearmie3985
@armiearmie3985 6 ай бұрын
so steven isn allowed to have his traumas manifest anymore??? cuz it happens irl. ofc it could happen to him cuz hes been through intergalactic war. ​@@socriabbas454
@user-bn4cs6zu6r
@user-bn4cs6zu6r 5 ай бұрын
​@@socriabbas454That's literally how repressing emotions work. A lot of kids repress emotions through their childhood because they're literally told to by adults (examples: "stop crying, just suck it up already", or "he never cries, he's so well behaved"), and when they start growing up those repressed emotions come back stronger. The more you push your emotions down, the more they'll push back, and Steven was pushing back his emotions for SIXTEEN YEARS. Fucking god, i'm so sick of seeing people who don't have even the basic understanding of childhood trauma or phsycology trying to bitch their opinion about it.
@hudsonbennett9138
@hudsonbennett9138 Ай бұрын
@@socriabbas454 you're wondering why a 16 year old isn't the same as when he was 14. lol....
@Ferrochrome12
@Ferrochrome12 Жыл бұрын
thank GOD someone is setting the record straight. Finally, someone who actually WATCHED the series is making a video on it. Thank you!
@thatrandomredengine9430
@thatrandomredengine9430 Жыл бұрын
What are you trying to say 🤔
@Mentallyheld
@Mentallyheld Жыл бұрын
@@thatrandomredengine9430 they are trying to say that they are finally giving this show some actual honesty and valid critism compared to most..other channels
@thatrandomredengine9430
@thatrandomredengine9430 Жыл бұрын
@@Mentallyheld finally? You sure we’ve been watching the same videos? Cause I know a lot of critics on Steven Universe, or are you harping on this one because they don’t say the show is complete dog water? Cause if that were the case, then it sounds like somebody is a little bit bias.
@Ferrochrome12
@Ferrochrome12 Жыл бұрын
@@thatrandomredengine9430 More often than not, people who are overly critical of the series get simple facts wrong, miss entire plot points or moments of character development, and otherwise just put on blinders to make a point. This video touches on it briefly, even. 90% of the criticism I see for this series comes from people that didn't even watch the damn thing.
@thatrandomredengine9430
@thatrandomredengine9430 Жыл бұрын
@@Ferrochrome12 give me examples, and don’t say Lily Orchard cause we all know.
@grimlin903
@grimlin903 Жыл бұрын
SUF is what made me realize it was okay to NOT be okay and helped me acknowledge my own trauma growing up. I'm grateful for this show, even when it's not perfect.
@TindraSan
@TindraSan Жыл бұрын
The fact that they have Connie's mom explaining PTSD to Steven, explaining the literal effects it has on the brain in a way a child can understand, is so fukken important! And the way Steven connects events from his life with the things she says is so relatable, it all reminds me of when my doctor explained ADHD to me better which convinced me to get diagnosed. I feel like alot of people don't understand mental illness as a tangible thing and that is a reason ppl with mental illness or disorders aren't taken as seriously as they should. Like you can't just "look on the bright side" and fix yourself with a snap of your fingers when there's a literal chemical imbalance in your brain, and I think it's important that children get to know that. The fact that so many ppl hated on Steven in this series shows that they didn't listen to the lesson the show was teaching nor were they ever taught enough from anywhere else when they were younger.
@maliaweeden7406
@maliaweeden7406 Жыл бұрын
@cartooncatisthebest tldr they literally explained in the show the effects of trauma on mental health and people who don't understand that basically didn't pay attention to the message of the show
@user.LCW01
@user.LCW01 7 ай бұрын
Plus, some of the people mad are mad that Steven is no longer that all positive kid he used to be back in previous seasons. I love Future though, because for once we're seeing a representation of depression and ptsd that isn't glamorized for the audience to "easily digest". The wrath, the outbursts, the mental breakdowns, the panic attacks, the feeling of dread, etc. I don't usually see people explore these kinds of things in their stories. So it felt so validating to see it represented here
@Peridot5xg
@Peridot5xg Жыл бұрын
*[Stars... If only Steven Universe Future had biiiiit more episodes... like 5 or maybe 10... it'd be just perfect. It'd give more space to explore and develop the characters, answer some unanswered questions and even wrap the show.]*
@sweetie3372
@sweetie3372 Жыл бұрын
*a wild dorito has appeared*
@MedusaPA
@MedusaPA Жыл бұрын
I didn't thought I'd see you here
@Jorddd
@Jorddd Жыл бұрын
Fax peridot
@Entei-pp1md
@Entei-pp1md 2 ай бұрын
Oh my God they have more than enough fucking episodes
@Starlight-
@Starlight- Жыл бұрын
This entire video is so fucking validating, thank you for putting these takes out into the world, being a fan of Future made me feel like I was losing my mind in online discussion for years lol I loved that the show had the balls to make us uncomfortable, and show us our “most stable” character in a more morally grey light. It humanized him, both narratively and literally. He’s a young human boy with immense Diamond power. Losing control was inevitable, but he’s still our boy inside. He still cared enough to ultimately learn restraint and accept love. He just needed to be seen and heard, finally.
@misfortunecookie4362
@misfortunecookie4362 Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe with Future is that not ONCE does Steven call any of the gems out on what they put him through during the original series, mainly the first couple of seasons. The main Crystal Gems, and even the CG B team, are responsible for a large portion of Steven’s trauma. You’re telling me Steven DIDN’T call out Pearl on nearly getting him killed by trying to take him into space, or by practically letting him fall to his death in “Rose’s Scabbard”? You’re telling me he DIDN’T call out Amethyst for literally shapeshifting into Rose to torment Greg and he happened to see it? You’re telling me he DIDN’T call out Garnet for dragging Steven into Ruby and Sapphire’s fight after the whole Sardonyx incident? Then there’s other stuff like Lapis nearly drowning him, Peridot kidnapping him and holding him at gunpoint to fix the Galaxy warp, and Bismuth nearly impaling him with the breaking point. He had every right to call them all out on their shit and he doesn’t. “Growing Pains” literally set him up to do so and I just think it’s a major missed opportunity.
@jaistraw
@jaistraw Жыл бұрын
It's so refreshing to see someone pointing out all the misconstrued things people have said to shit on SUfuture. I've always personally been happy with this finale to the series and seeing people showing interest in it again after all this time is cool! I must admit it was discouraging back then seeing all the unfounded hate, especially since at the time I related very deeply with SUF's themes on mental health. You took the words right of my mouth with this one! So nice to see someone's finally voicing these opinions again! Hope to see more from you soon dude!
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
Look people can say what they want about a show and just because they hate the show doesn’t mean that you have to get all defensive about it. My favorite movie is minions and my least favorite is Spider-man into the spiderverse yet I don’t get defensive when people tell me my opinion is wrong yet I still will voice my opinion. There is a difference from voicing an opinion like most people do when they say they hate Steven universe and being defensive which is what you and this guy are doing.
@jaistraw
@jaistraw Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation I'm not being defensive- if anything from my perspective your comment sounds a lot more defensive, getting mad at me for liking something you didn't. (Regardless if you intended that.) Because I never said people weren't allowed to have personal preferences, only that I found it refreshing to see it be shown in a positive light! Especially when the show is given more hate than deserved considering a lot of it comes from people who either haven't actually seen it, watched one episode and decided to stop,(I have a friend who did this, doesn't mean I think they're wrong to be put off from something and just decide not to continue and despite me enjoying it I didn't push them to) or cite misplaced nitpicks as the main reason they dislike it. Personally I think Spiderman Spiderverse is a pretty good movie (probably not my favorite though) and the minions movie (I've only seen the first) sucked ass, but if kids like it I'm not gonna rant at them about how their favorite movie sucks, even if it's objectively bad. Because there are people who can find enjoyment in it, even if I don't, and if you like it while I find it obnoxious I'm not going to get mad about it or anything lol. You seem to have misunderstood my comment because I 100% agree people can like or dislike whatever they want. I just don't agree that people who like a show like SUFuture deserve to shamed about it, because from a purely critical and objective standpoint, SUF isn't awful. Minions isn't complete garbage in a similar sense, but I can still dislike it and not shame you for enjoying it. (Regardless of if it's more founded than hate on SUF or not.) The guy making this video wasn't saying anyone had to like it if they didnt, he only wanted to voice and point out a lot of the unfounded vitriol surrounding it based on misconstrued nitpicks and not actual valid critiques. Because there is a lot of things people parrot about it that just isn't true from a purely factual standing. And those talking points, if anything, ARE worth defending and there's nothing wrong with that. I liked his video and think he made a lot of sense. You shouldn't get riled up just because someone has a different opinion on something of you, especially of it's something this harmless. You'll only upset yourself.
@KirbyStarAnimation
@KirbyStarAnimation Жыл бұрын
@@jaistraw But like I said he and you’re saying that most of the critiques are either from people who haven’t watched it, are misconstrued nitpicks, or aren’t valid yet that is from your opinion on whether they are valid which a lot of them like the diamonds not deserving no punishment and before you say they couldn’t bismuth got punished and so did bluebird, Steven’s mental health was really acknowledged when he started having his powers acting up instead of just when you listen to him, have had characters like Greg be inconsistent like how Greg went from a amazing father to a horrible one in one episode, Steven has been bad to his friends like how he didn’t tell the gems what happened with bismuth even though they said they would talk about what happened with bismuth instead bismuth got bubbled which is apparently horrible, and the show has been championed for subpar representation at best with having their main lgbtq characters be monogendered aliens but now with shows like owl house doing what Steven universe did millions of times better people have acknowledged Steven universe’s representation was bad representation. Look I agree no one should be ashamed for liking a show unless it’s saying slavery, murder, and being racist is ok but a lot of people have sent death threats to people who made videos about how Steven universe was a bad show and that isn’t excusable no matter how much you love a show.
@jaistraw
@jaistraw Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation Dude.. again, you're misunderstanding my comment completely and putting words in my mouth I never said. I didn't say "most" people have used the incorrect info/nitpicks to bash the show and folks for liking it, I said a lot. Not most. *A lot*. Which is true, not simply opinion. And again, I *never* said all critiques were invalid. In fact I specifically said that there WERE flaws, and I agree with a lot of the valid critiques! But that still doesn't stop me from loving the show. Literally all I said was it was nice to see someone making a video pointing out the flaws in certain arguments and looking at things from a more positive angle! You're projecting me as having certain opinions that not only do I not have, but I also never said anything to so much as suggest I did. Again; *misunderstanding and twisting my words.* Though maybe that's because you copypasted part of another comment I saw you made and that's why what you just said doesn't line up with what I was saying and my reply to you. While that would explain it, It's still not an excuse though. If you're going to try and pointlessly argue about something that we clearly both partially agree on at least don't be lazy. And as far as those critiques you just mentioned, some of those are opinion based yourself. I'll give examples: Greg and Steven's character and actions did not change out of nowhere. Greg was always a great dad, but he DID fail in some aspects and while it was never his intention, he did neglect Steven in ways due to his own abuse and upbringing. Steven was "only taken seriously" after his powers (Which may I remind you are emotion based and highly metaphorical, though perhaps not the best as being metaphorical/symbolic of them in a functional sense) started acting up because up until that point Steven had been bottling things up and displaying similar behaviors his whole life on a smaller scale and that's oftentimes how the loved ones of people going through similar emotional/mental turmoil behave as well. I know from PERSONAL experience the lengths people can go to to ignore or be in denial of a loved one's distress and issues. That, in my opinion, was good writing and representation of such topics. Not perfect, but the parts you cited specifically weren't bad writing. It's not bad writing if you have to look at the context, in fact that's good writing building on previously shown behaviors. (This in specific, of course. Not all of SU has good writing and I will be the first to admit such.) And.. as far as the whole lgbtqia+ representation goes.. I'm not even sure where to start. From your words I have to assume you either are purposely ignorant or have terrible memory. Lgbt representation like seen in The Owl House IS in fact better, but I'd argue it has Steven Universe in part to thank for that! The fact that you would compare the representation in these two shows is SO disrespectful to the crew of BOTH of said shows, as well as the community as a whole! Back when SU was airing, it was nearly unheard of to have ANY form of representation that wasn't meant to be pointed and laughed at. I was there, when SU made leaps and bounds in pushing the boundary of what could be shown for representation in cartoons and animation. ESPECIALLY in animation meant for younger audiences. Steven Universe was one of the first shows to do this to such extent, and they had to fight tooth and nail for the bare minimum, but were STILL censored. SU walked so shows like TOH could run. This is why they had to tone things down, were FORCED to tone things down so they could show even the bare minimum of their gay space rocks. The gems are on paper "genderless", sure, but at the time it's pretty obvious they're supposed to be coded/representative as a largely female or feminine displaying species. And the main crystal gems all go by she/her, display as feminine, etc. If they weren't "monogendered" or whatever you said there's next to no way any of the representation attempted would be possible. Disregarding everything Rebecca and her crew achieved and tried because of that comes across as SO ignorant it hurts. They did what at the time was thought to be the impossible, and to much greater extent than probably should have been. It's only thanks to them and shows similar to SU that TOH could pull off their almost equally great lengths in progress towards better representation in animation. Well, that, and the fact that TOH comes from a bigger company like Disney that could afford to make exceptions and experiment with that. Even so, invalidating SU's representation because it's not up to your standard based on constraints forced upon the creators is a huge insult considering what they went through to achieve what they did. That was my biggest gripe, however I agree, the handling if the diamonds wasn't good at all. But I still love SU. I've watched literally dozens of reviews and critique videos on SU over the years. And I agreed with a LOT of the points on it's flaws. But I always walked away with no less love for the show. You aren't changing how I feel about it, if that's what you're trying to do. Trying to pressure me into disliking something because YOU dislike it isn't going to get you anywhere. SU was always the show that meant the most to me, and I have yet to find another show since which compares to my fondness for it. I will always remember it as such, flaws and all. But just because something is flawed does bot make liking it or the work itself inherently bad. And finally.. really? Death threats? You are going to sit there and suggest I at ANY POINT stated I support ANYONE SENDING death threats to anyone else? How far must you reach to demonize someone for *harmlessly liking* something? I have never in my life sent anything RESEMBLING a death threat, and quite honestly I am shocked you would include something that has so little to do with the topics at hand. You think I would EVER in my life excuse sending someone death threats for disliking a show? This is by far the most ridiculous thing I've heard from you. Which, with everything else in mind, is saying a lot. And guess what? Despite this point of yours having nothing to do with anything else, I will counter it with this: you can say people have sent death threats for disliking the show, but the fact that people have ALSO sent death threats, bullied and shamed people for liking the show is equally if not moreso shocking, but I've seen it. Neither is excusable, and I never said it was. Nice try, pal. You seriously have no idea how disgusted I am that you would use *that* of all things to try and demonize a whole group of people for simply holding a different opinion to you.. I am at a loss of words. So, to reiterate: along with other words you're trying to put in my mouth I *never* said SUF was perfect. You can clearly see that in my very first comment. And to be honest, I think I'm done talking to you. You have consistently attempted to twist my words and assume my opinions that were never stated. Not only that, you are perpetuating long-debunked falsities and disregarding the history of representation in animation which I simply cannot excuse. If you insist on refusing to look at context, I'm afraid this conversation was doomed from the start. There is no point talking to you if you will continue to disrespect me, basic logic, and entire communities of people. I have no patience for that and I sincerely hope you take some time yourself to cool off and think about *why* exactly you feel the need to argue on points we already agree on. That will be all.
@thatonwguy
@thatonwguy Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation "you dont have to get defensive if someone doesnt like it" -proceeds to get defensive about someone saying they LIKE something and not being defensive while saying it. imagine getting mad not at someone saying they hate something but saying they LIKE something harmless. then complaining about THEM being defensive. even though you were the first to get defensive. how convoluted your logic must be.
@MikaMationsTV
@MikaMationsTV Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, and honestly even through the shows flaws I'll never stop loving this show, it's a massive source of comfort for me, it was entertainment as a kid, and as a teen helped me understand myself better and put my feelings into words, music, and animation. i adore this show, in my opinion the end was a little rushed, but it'll never take away the love i have for this show. I've watched Steven ever since it came out and it makes me so happy!
@annazeidman5187
@annazeidman5187 Жыл бұрын
watching the nitpick section and honestly complaining about bearded (whiskered?) steven is also funny bc...he's canonically 16. 16 year olds can grow beards sometimes. it's not some far fetched thing 💀
@sibosb9138
@sibosb9138 11 ай бұрын
i had a shitty patchy but full ish beard at 16
@baoxology9958
@baoxology9958 5 ай бұрын
Bro this kid in my class grew a beard at only 13 years old, I’m not even kidding it was insane
@A-really-cool-Youtube-name
@A-really-cool-Youtube-name 4 ай бұрын
I've met 15 year olds with beards so
@Soupyyy_
@Soupyyy_ 3 ай бұрын
In middle school I knew a kid from his mom so he was prone to having a small French mustache of sorts. He’s shave it off but I just think he’s funny with it (man was a jerk, so it’s funnier)
@themininggirl3422
@themininggirl3422 Ай бұрын
Steven literally started growing a beard on his birthday in the main series too and he was 14!
@jasper_the_techie
@jasper_the_techie Жыл бұрын
I genuinely loved future. To me it felt like the inevitable breakdown after a childhood FILLED with trauma
@rhebbi
@rhebbi Жыл бұрын
As someone who's dealt with ptsd from trauma as a child, I really appreciated how it was depicted in future. Since for my own reactions to triggers was suppression and anger, and uncontrolled outbursts. As well as always trying to just *fix* the current and act like nothing was wrong. Which can be really damaging to your mental health. Makes you especially feel like no one is there for you. And seeing steven get that recognition from his family. Even if they thenselves don't know how to truly help him, was very moving for me and still brings me to tears to this day. And this can be said about any mental health problem. But just having it recognized means so much to the person who's dealing with it. I also dont think the finale was only just a way to show Steven's progression of healing, but it was also a way to show people how to support those dealing with mental health and ptsd. Cuz damn. I wish my own family would do what they did in the show.
@xkurokomix
@xkurokomix Жыл бұрын
i think the way steven is represented in future is great and i really enjoy it, it draws parallels between him and pink diamond, showing he’s getting more aggressive and jaded as he gets older and honestly i really enjoy that. im glad they handled it the way they did personally
@cassiushellsin6243
@cassiushellsin6243 Жыл бұрын
This show is haunting me. It has so much potential, and the fact people just want to see more of the show so we can STOP having mixed feelings on it and start loving it again would be great 😭
@ooiiooiiooii
@ooiiooiiooii Жыл бұрын
I think it def fulfilled that potential. I understand people not liking certain characters and their choices but I don’t understand not liking the show
@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse
@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse Жыл бұрын
@@ooiiooiiooii it's just the fact it introduced more unnecessary plot holes than solved them and rushed an ending which didn't need to happen
@ooiiooiiooii
@ooiiooiiooii Жыл бұрын
@@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse i don't understand what you mean by unnecessary plot holes and then solving them
@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse
@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse Жыл бұрын
@@ooiiooiiooii I mean it didn't solve them. For example, bluebird, curly lapis, jasper didn't even get a good character send off. We also never saw emerald, any worthy backstory to rhodonite, or a solid ending to holly blue agate. The show has such a tendency to have to always have the plot revolve around Steven and Steven only that we can't have anything with these other characters, and because future was the season where the spotlight should've been shifted to those characters who didn't get much development, they decided that Steven needed even more spotlight.
@diaVar
@diaVar Жыл бұрын
@@cats-nn2km nobody cares about your opinion
@spaceyboy
@spaceyboy Жыл бұрын
Also something I’d like to make note of is that (please correct me if I’m mistaken !!) Steven doesn’t even actually try to shatter WD, the scene was supposed to represent trauma induced intrusive thoughts, with seeing the gem that literally yanked out his life source being the trigger. Even in the show Steven during his breakdown says that he “maybe had a few not so nice thoughts about smashing WD’s head into a pillar” which people don’t really seem to pay attention to when they say the scene is out of character for him. The only person Steven smashes into a pillar in that scene was himself. Even besides that he is CLEARLY DISTURBED once he snaps out of it, it makes him horrified that he even contemplated that especially after the whole Jasper thing and it contributes to his “I am a monster” mindset… On a different note people also (from what I’ve seen) always shit on Steven for proposing to Connie/being that impacted by her rejection. The thing is, he was already in a downward spiral of mental health when he came to Ruby and Sapphire for advice, and OF COURSE being the lovebirds they are they gave the worst advice imaginable to a panicked teenager and both on separate occasions insisted that proposing was an amazing idea. Due to a combination of his mental state, attachment/abandonment issues, and the insistence of two different mentor figures in his life, Steven convinces himself that marrying Connie and pulling a permafusion like Garnet is a foolproof way to resolve his internal dilemma completely and so the disaster we watch unfolds. Was it the smartest choice to make? No not at all. Does it make sense knowing factors like these? In my opinion yes. By the way, Connie handled the rejection AMAZINGLY and I don’t understand people who hate on a child for wanting her own life/future and not wanting to rush into a marriage?? Anyway once again Steven’s reaction is both unhealthy and seems unreasonable from an outside perspective, but it does make sense seeing as it just piles on top of everything else he has been experiencing in terms of people in his life drifting away and “leaving him alone,” of course he’d overreact to something he was fully sure would succeed in fixing these growing feelings of solitude and being left behind. I totally get where people are coming from of course when they take the scene/episode at surface value, but you have to remember that his decisions are not only based off of what happened earlier in the ep, but also what has been happening to him in every episode before it.
@3starsburningbright
@3starsburningbright Жыл бұрын
As someone with horrible intrusive thoughts i think this makes a lot of sense. When you’re unstable or being hit with a lot of traumatic memories thoughts like that are so easy to have and its so easy to feel like a horrible person for having them even though you would never act on them. I do think Steven overreacted a _bit_ to being rejected but honestly considering how much of a trainwreck his mental health was when that happened i could see many people reacting similar to him, including myself. He thought marriage and fusion could fix everything and finally make him feel whole and not getting that dream outcome hurts a lot.
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin Жыл бұрын
I never had a problem with Steven Universe Future, nor did I have a problem with how the series ended. In a sense, Steven actually caused most of the conflicts that happened in Steven Universe Future, rather than the conflicts being a direct consequence to what Pink Diamond did, even if Steven is going through post traumatic stress due to what happened to him throughout the original series. I am glad that Steven in the end of the series isn't entirely better, but is actually healing.
@randychavez1979
@randychavez1979 Жыл бұрын
A lot of critiques about the show on yt seem to boil down to: ppl proving they would not be good writers irl, being nitpicky, forgetting it's a show for children first, expecting things/fictional characters to be perfect or work exactly how they think they should, and not understanding change. Kinda funny with the themes of the show.
@2triedforthis830
@2triedforthis830 4 ай бұрын
It’s when they miss the entire point
@Phasmania
@Phasmania 2 ай бұрын
Lmao exactly, the critiquing of this show is never applied to other cartoons that are considered well liked all around. The point of proving that people wouldn’t be good writers irl is so real
@SilverScribe85
@SilverScribe85 Жыл бұрын
My only main issue with future was Steven's anger, mostly towards his dad. The moment I saw him frowning in that family picture at his old house, I knew right off that Greg had a pretty lousy home life. Meanwhile Steven acts like his dad tossed aside something he never had; a "normal" family. Why would Steven want to live with a family who's strict, tight-fisted and didn't support your talents/skills?
@raq619
@raq619 Жыл бұрын
Steven has never interacted with Greg's parents himself, & has no frame of reference for how abusive & stifling Greg's upbringing may have been. For Steven, they represent a humanity he feels detached & isolated from, one he has never been allowed to fully connect with. Remember how excited Steven was to meet Uncle Andy, finding out he had human family this whole time?
@3starsburningbright
@3starsburningbright Жыл бұрын
I honestly really connected with that scene to a degree despite disagreeing with Greg being a bad dad - as someone who faced childhood neglect and isolation (including homeschooling instead of public and rarely leaving the house making that scene all the more personal to me) i understood why he was so mad and it just made me sad that greg was the one he lashed out on for that. Greg is by no means the best parent, but he’s done the most he can to be there for his son and be one of the most supportive and helpful people in his life which is something i never got as a child and something i think he was too angry to really see at the time.
@SilverScribe85
@SilverScribe85 Жыл бұрын
@@3starsburningbright Exactly, Greg did the best he could with Steven; especially since the Gems kept him away from the only real parent he had left
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 Жыл бұрын
I think it's valid to say Greg overcorrected a little in his parenting. He grew up in an overly restrictive household and didn't want the same for Steven, but ended up giving him the exact opposite. It's not wrong for Steven to have wanted a more "normal" life, even if he probably doesn't understand how bad it was for Greg
@abandonedaccounnt
@abandonedaccounnt Жыл бұрын
Steven doesn't know what a "normal childhood" is. His awkwardness around Connie's friends in the skating episode shows how out of touch he feels with humans, how he's unable to relate to Connie in a way that feels so fundamental and impossible to fix. His anger towards Greg is misplaced, but I can sympathize with him. There's never been anything or anyone like Steven. That must feel very alienating.
@Phoboskomboa
@Phoboskomboa Жыл бұрын
People hating on things because negativity gets attention is one of the worst problems of modern society. I see those people as parasitic.
@jothepossum
@jothepossum Жыл бұрын
Little thing: I wish they showed Steven talk to Amethyst and apologizing because that hurt me as an artist 😭 she actually really tried and I wish Steven would've said how he just took it bad because of Bluebird rather than just letting her run off crying 😭😭😭😭
@DarkPrincessAly
@DarkPrincessAly Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Future was so fucking important. It's the main thing that really pushed me to get help for my own mental health issues. The final episode dropped the day I moved across the state to find myself, and it helped me really process a lot of my own trauma. Every time I try to explain that, I get an asshole just skipping it all and going "yeah but the show was bad tho". Like, cool. You took the time to shit on the thing that kept somebody from wanting to kill themselves to that person. I hope you feel really good about yourself. Because you shouldn't. Pathetic. Anyway, thanks to the crewniverse for making something that spoke to and helped to heal my broken inner child. This show will always mean so, so much to me and countless others.
@ee.nikkiiii
@ee.nikkiiii 7 ай бұрын
Very happy you're still here dude, take care. ❤
@Jorddd
@Jorddd Жыл бұрын
Let’s see how this goes…
@inqyr4707
@inqyr4707 Жыл бұрын
Remember to keep track of the death threats you get from this video
@devinsauls9137
@devinsauls9137 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 🙂
@Clone_Nelly
@Clone_Nelly Жыл бұрын
Hopefully good
@StevenPlaysMC_
@StevenPlaysMC_ Жыл бұрын
can't wait to see people who never watched steven universe at all coming here and "criticizing" why it's a bad show...
@kharijordan6426
@kharijordan6426 Жыл бұрын
Eh... yeah this video of yours is fine. Not saying anything too awful. But dang you helped me realize to be careful with time skipping in story telling. People will not like what the characters have become and will always not understand why it wasn't brought up before the time skip. Especially if it would have lead to something interesting in the story. And to be careful with messaging in story. If it's about feeling and being open and talking things out do not have the character/s not talk things out for certain things. These two contradictory things will confuse viewers. "Because plot" will not stop them from pointing out how much they personally don't like it.
@motherwar3698
@motherwar3698 Жыл бұрын
12:08 THANK YOU! I bet you know already buy do you know how many people said Steven got better after the hug when THE MF HIMSELF SAYS ITS BEEN MONTHS SINCE THEN AND HE'S GOING TO THERAPY?? it's like people just skipped that
@Derpy241107
@Derpy241107 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when Future was originally airing, I got into an Instagram argument with a stranger over Steven’s character. The person keep acting like he was an irredeemable asshole and that he crashed the van to try to kill Greg. I had to argue that was an accident and non malicious, and as a mentally ill person myself that I appreciated that they choice to characterize him warts and all. Because my depression also made me a huge asshole too, and I saw myself in Steven. And then the person argued that it was unethical to depict people with PTSD like that.
@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705
@ilikegeorgiabutiveonlybeen6705 7 ай бұрын
thats wild
@dxvidvfx
@dxvidvfx Жыл бұрын
omggg i 100% agree with everything that was said. i thoroughly enjoyed steven universe future it had its flaws of course but, doesn’t every show have a flaw? i think that the only thing i would’ve wanted was more depth into everyone else’s trauma and how it coexisted with steven. mainly i wanted to know what was in that damn box in lions head 😭…
@HeptadFel
@HeptadFel Жыл бұрын
The thing i hate is when people say “mental illness isnt cured by a hug” and thats not the point the point is mental issues take time for yourself to heal and work on yourself and sometimes that involves going away… which someones dad on tiktok said to them when they watched the show together because he knew how it would end because he experienced it….
@Jul_Italia
@Jul_Italia Жыл бұрын
I love how Steven sang a whole song about how he has the power to make a change, yet he doesn't accept that Rose changed for the better
@user-bn4cs6zu6r
@user-bn4cs6zu6r 5 ай бұрын
Just because she changed it doesn't mean Steven has to forgive her
@MrGeorge1Kin
@MrGeorge1Kin Жыл бұрын
My theory is that people just hate steven in future because they hate necks
@memebot6490
@memebot6490 Жыл бұрын
My main problem with Future is that they put Steven through the ringer and we see soooo much trauma, but we barely ever get to see the healing process. The healing process is extremely necessary in showing arcs like these, cause otherwise you focus far too much on the negatives of something so mentally draining and the show loses it's charm.
@naolucillerandom5280
@naolucillerandom5280 Жыл бұрын
It would have been nice if they just managed to fit in a little montage of how his life had been changing through those months, when he decided to leave, etc.
@Arboriculture_bros
@Arboriculture_bros Жыл бұрын
I think jasper being healed is such a great scene, a massive reason being the gritty and shameful atmosphere, which is just so relatable
@jvever4904
@jvever4904 Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone that actually watched the series and paid attention to it giving a critique about the show. SU Future was waaaaaay over-hated for what it is.
@utopiaa_1775
@utopiaa_1775 Жыл бұрын
9:35 nah bc i’d definitely check out cartoonshi’s new content ESPECIALLY his latest steven universe video, he has a whole segment at the end of his owl house s3 review talking about how he regrets making his old content
@diminie_chimket
@diminie_chimket 2 ай бұрын
He wasn't hating on toonshi. He was just giving valid criticism. And of course we know how much toonshi hates his old content, and I myself watch his videos all the time. This was just the one of few video missteps. ^^
@godfreygraphics8727
@godfreygraphics8727 Жыл бұрын
"Blue Diamond sells drugs" LMAO
@thenerdycat9695
@thenerdycat9695 Жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot of this, I really enjoyed SUF and it makes me sad that people hate on it so much. I related a lot to Steven, I was always the empathetic one and I tended to try and solve a lot of my family's issues, and as my mental health declined so did my ability to hide my anger and hurt. I thought they wrote Steven really well with all his trauma and whatnot. Anyway, thanks for defending the show! It has its issues, but at the end of the day I think it was a good ending :)
@staru-u
@staru-u Жыл бұрын
i agree with u, the ending is fine as it is rn but we needed more songs, more of steven accepting he is dealing with PTSD and trauma and slowly working on himself and going to therapy and etc and just how everyone is helping steven get better, maybe his problems will trigger other characters’ trauma, idk so many possibilities and it would’ve been interesting to explore all these topics with SU’s beautiful world and characters !
@Wud-f2r
@Wud-f2r 6 ай бұрын
I think it was probably hard enough to even get the studio to agree to make a miniseries cartoon about Steven Universe that was all about growth and trauma, instead of having more “space monster fights.” I agree with you for myself, I would have loved more too, but I think it’s incredible that this story was made at all. And although not perfect it’s an open and honest look at trauma, PTSD and cPTSD and also retroactively shows how Steven’s coping mechanisms throughout his story were flawed and never really helped him deal with things properly.
@jakeystarsuper
@jakeystarsuper 3 ай бұрын
idk I feel like songs would ruin the moment. sometimes you should let a scene go silent to be more powerful.
@johnbowen5220
@johnbowen5220 Жыл бұрын
12:48 BRO THAT GOES FOR CHARACTERS TOO, I get so mad when people defend their favorite characters in battles they would obviously lose. That character isn't perfect, they have flaws, but thats what makes them interesting, losing one fictional battle isn't gonna change how cool that character is. Ik thats pretty off topic but I've been looking for an excuse to say this for so long.
@elleofthewilds
@elleofthewilds Жыл бұрын
Something that people don't seem to get about rose is that just because she was abused does not make what she did okay. It explains it. It does not excuse it. She hurt people and the fact that she was also hurting does not invalidate that the people she hurt were left with scars. My parents are good people now. They didn't used to be. I have trauma from that, and just because they are good people now doesn't change that I have scars. The fact that I have scars doesn't invalidate that they've grown and they'd never do what they did to me again. It's a complex issue. Rose is a complex character. She was abused, she hurt people, badly, and those people are entitled to their scars just as much as she is entitled to hers. And she grew, she changed, but many of the people she hurt weren't around to see her change. They still feel like she's the same person. And they still have to heal.
@floof.floofington.the.floo-rth
@floof.floofington.the.floo-rth Жыл бұрын
FINALLY somebody else talks about it not being implied everything was fixed by hugging and kissing.
@Julnz
@Julnz Жыл бұрын
Considering the amount of limitations the crewniverse had while writing the end of the show, I feel like they did pretty well. Sure, it seemed rushed at times and yeah, there's a few inconsistencies, but overall I think Future was fairly good. SU may not be perfect but neither are high-ranking shows like Breaking Bad and Bojack Horseman. Most of the show haters I know have barely scratched the surface of the show.
@kurtloss
@kurtloss Жыл бұрын
agree with everything in this video, but oh my god dude the voice acting for when steven is crying into lion fucking stabbed me,, the breaking in his voice shows that he needed to let all of that out :( still crying abt it that hurts
@MentaAzul
@MentaAzul Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing! You can hate Future all you want, but its ending is a thousand times more satisfying than the original series finale.
@Lacirev
@Lacirev Жыл бұрын
I got completely flashbanged by that youtuber questioning why Steven is older and has facial hair like do you not remember the plot of a whole episode???? and the fact that this became relevant later for Steven's birthday????
@zelinknalu6912
@zelinknalu6912 Жыл бұрын
1. Unconditional love is a important and a must in a child's development but it's NOT enough. Children also NEED stability and structure. 2. Steven spent a huge part of his childhood (one of the most influential part in a person's life) helping others with their trauma without truly processing his own so of course he'll become controlling towards others 3. PTSD is not just like how movies portray it to be, it has many complex effects depending on the nature of the trauma it comes from and on the person themselves 4. Triggers have many forms and people respond to them differently. Sometimes you become irrationally angry and lash out at people 5. Not all medications work on everyone. Everyone's needs are different. (I've seen too many people misinterpret Blue Diamond's method, it's NOT the harmful kind of drugs! It's actually more like serotonin) 6. Your mind and body are closely linked. If one side is not being taken care of correctly, the other WILL be affected whether you want it or not.
@cluelessbluebird
@cluelessbluebird Жыл бұрын
Tbh I 100% agree with you. Future DEFINITELY had its problems, and I'm not saying it was perfect, but to me it touched on some really important topics both for Steven as a character and to the viewers. Steven had been pushing his feelings down, putting others' needs before his own, and was forced to mature for YEARS, and future was finally the time he had a second to think about himself and what was happening around him. Yeah, Future was stupid in some parts, but it was also deep and meaningful in other parts.
@flowerbit4137
@flowerbit4137 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the video and describing the things that I am too lazy to do so myself!!! I find this epilogue series to be a really thoughtful ending to the story. And it’s disappointing to have seen so many other people not recognize what was actually happening in this epilogue. I highly implore everyone who didn’t like or didn’t “get” Future to rewatch the entire series and with the components of this video in mind as a guide
@foxtatertot
@foxtatertot Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with everything here!! I grew up with Steven Universe, I love the shows and movie so much, but I know and acknowledge that they're flawed. Also, another thing that was brushed over at the beginning of the video, that I think should've been more highlighted was the fact that Rebecca Sugar and the crewniverse were being forced to finish the show, and that Future wasn't allowed to be more than 20 episodes. So.. while the original series was being rushed to finish, Rebecca trying her hardest to wrap up the loose ends from the main show that she wasn't able to, with Future.
@raining_trees
@raining_trees Жыл бұрын
All because they had a gay wedding. Ridiculous.
@RoseQuartz692
@RoseQuartz692 Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of the show until late 2021 didn't knew a single thing about it when I watched it for the first time in 2022 and I didn't even saw Steven Universe Future when I re watched the show I liked but I like the main show so much more
@justy244
@justy244 Жыл бұрын
Steven Universe Future has always had a special place in my heart, as I grow older I relate more and more to Steven and being diagnosed with PTSD makes me appreciate the show even more.
@paekaumahana
@paekaumahana Жыл бұрын
Trauma and the subjection to what it is and what it isn't. Discussions like these that were brought up to denounce the nuance of Steven's trauma and how crewniverse decided to write it really put me off. A lot of collectives who watched SU:F pointed out that many of the neurodivergency community who have suffered from trauma and the effects after decided that his trauma wasn't written "well." and that trauma is signifcantly "supposed" to be written in a desirable relative way where they can also relate. I'm so thankful that you did this video because it really was written well considering there cutbacks of SU:F in the first place with CN. 😢❤
@Local_Davenport
@Local_Davenport Жыл бұрын
i’ve literally been obsessed with it for years and it’s refreshing to hear someone talk so good about it
@kevinedwards5510
@kevinedwards5510 Жыл бұрын
The “hate” for SU and SUF has always been due to popularity. Its almost not even worth addressing. Its like… the people who made those videos don’t actually care that much its just for the views.
@THGMR-ox7sd
@THGMR-ox7sd Жыл бұрын
These points are valid but it's not gonna stop people from hating the show. I feel likeTwitter isn't the only place insane people love being in.
@trymetrix857
@trymetrix857 Жыл бұрын
Finally a youtuber who mirrors my feeling on future. I never understood the hate for future like- it had some issues- and a few stinker episodes... but full on hate? why?
@heemylheemy4978
@heemylheemy4978 Жыл бұрын
As a young adult who just end schooling and all I can do now it's to find my purpose in life, job etc I find this show really relatable
@CalsiferAstro
@CalsiferAstro 23 күн бұрын
This video introduced me to Alex g (not including Tree house) Alex g is now my favorite artist. It’s come back to what I now call “Alex g season” or basically good cold weather songs. Thank you jord. I love ur Steven universe content and ur other vids too! Again just thank you.
@jayleaf23
@jayleaf23 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I definitely think the hate for Future and even the original series is overblown, and I’m glad you bring up the flaws it had as well as the good aspects of it. I think this series would’ve been better if it simply had like 2 more episodes towards the later half so the season didn’t feel rushed at the end. Overall like where they took the series, but some poor writing decisions like reviving Jasper with little effort, the pity party where everyone blamed themselves, and the “Monster Steven” scenes feeling way too short made the season not as great as it could’ve been.
@Gear5luff-u6e
@Gear5luff-u6e Жыл бұрын
❤thank you for this vid bruv...an honest review..better than that other trash talk up there.
@rowdyramenkun4083
@rowdyramenkun4083 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE MEDIA LITARACY!
@lilly.bug.g
@lilly.bug.g Жыл бұрын
“Don’t make your space aunt kill herself” Sdfghjk 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@kiamosky4340
@kiamosky4340 Жыл бұрын
Steven Universe Future was fantastic and heart breaking at the same time.
@grammarnazi3876
@grammarnazi3876 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely understand where the criticism comes from in regards to this show, but even with all its flaws, I think it holds a really special place in my heart, especially with its depiction and representation of mental illness. When I first watched SUF, I was going through a whole lotta stuff, and seeing someone in media who had a similar trauma response to me was really comforting. Steven's "need to be needed", his constant pretense of stability, and his eventual meltdown are all things that I could, at the time, relate to, and while I am sad that so many plotlines had to be rushed or cut because of the show's inadequate length, I'm still really grateful to the writers for the way they decided to bring light on situations like Steven's :)
@TheLeafcuter
@TheLeafcuter Жыл бұрын
8:22 actually this criticism of Future being too low-stakes makes me extra mad because THATS THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT! Steven never got even a SECOND to breathe in the first show or the movie, he had to constantly strain himself to keep his family together, to help the towns people with their problems, TO PREVENT THE END OF THE WORLD. He NEVER had the time to sit down and address the amount of trauma he was going through until the very end, when finally everything's been resolved, and he realizes that his entire life has been revolved around helping others with their problems - and now he can't anymore. It's a MASSIVE identity crisis to go through, on top of the fact that now when there's nothing left threatening his life, his trauma can rear its ugly head and hit him like a train. Future being relatively low-stakes compared to the previous show NEEDED to happen.
@monochrome_prism
@monochrome_prism Жыл бұрын
Ive heard of people really hating SUF but i really love it. I see a lot of my own struggles with mental health being portrayed in such a real way and sometimes i go back and rewatch it when im really down
@2istedchocol880
@2istedchocol880 Жыл бұрын
I am so grateful for your videos. I never understood all the hate the show got, specially when (from my perspective) it treats and depicts mental health problems with such nuance and care. It feels good to finally see someone addressing all the unfair criticism and showing that, while the show has its flaws (like everything in life) it's not nearly as bad as every other youtube video makes it seem like. Thank you so much!
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 Жыл бұрын
Despite everything I'm glad Future existed, in some regards it was very much needed. The show had to adress Steven's own issues but never could because there's always someone else that needs helping. We needed to aknowledge his trauma and how, despite meaning well, all of Steven's parental figures failed him in some way. Like, seriously, at the start of the show the Crystal Gems were NOT well equiped to raise Steven, they either had way too many issues or were emotionally unavailable in some way. They got better but it was thanks to Steven, and you don't put that kind of pressure on a child
@GrassyBoy
@GrassyBoy Жыл бұрын
The ending of SUF is the only time I've ever cried for a piece of media aside from the end of the Vampire Diaries. I loved Steven Universe since the start and still do.
@RhiannonSmudge
@RhiannonSmudge Жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of the series was rushed and condensed which is why the story and writing can feel off at times. ESPECIALLY the monster Steven arch, that should have taken an entire 1-2 episodes to resolve. Though the hug scene was cute and sweet, it felt like a huge copout. But I still liked it overall. I liked seeing Steven's temporary downfall due to his unresolved childhood trauma and him learning to deal with it in a healthy manner. Mental health issues sometimes aren't obvious even to the person suffering from them until things boil over, and SUF portrayed that really well
@Agentsex
@Agentsex Жыл бұрын
Lets be real, the reason why Future was ended so quickly was because CN was done supporting the show. Can’t even blame Rebecca how it ended bc they had little to work with in just 20 EPISODES
@sociallysatanic
@sociallysatanic Жыл бұрын
as someone who is still dealing with emotional reprocussions of experiencing some really traumatic things, i actively avoided those SU hate videos bc i couldn't handle all these people saying it was unrealistic and shitty that steven would have outbursts caused by his untreated mental stress. i've done and said some hurtful things to people i care about in my past, things i regret (but luckily i've grown past and improved mentally and made it up to people and went to therapy etc etc) and to hear people shit on steven for having reactions similar to mine, it felt.... kinda bad, man XD i wish this show had had more time to flesh things out, it really suffered from time crunch, but i think what we did get, especially involving steven's ptsd, was pretty damn good - if interpreted as the first step to recovery, not the end of it, of course. subscribing~
@Zero_XTZ5
@Zero_XTZ5 Жыл бұрын
Bro why are you so based
@CamHeComic
@CamHeComic 5 ай бұрын
I wanna say that I loved Future. im rewatching the show with my friend, and it seems like in the original, he never had time to face his emotions. Examples could be like when he blamed himself for his friends nearly getting captured by topaz and aquamarine, but Connie had to remind him that they were literally in a fight, or in Mindful Education, when he was upset at everything he did, but didnt have time to face it, because he had to help himself and Connie from falling to their death. In Future, he's in a place with no battles or world ending threats. He's able to face it, and he obviously doesn't know how to, which is why he freaks out so much and acts the way he does. I just wish more people could pick up on this, ITS LITERALLY EXPLAINED IN AN EPISODE AT THE DOCTORS.
@residenteviI7
@residenteviI7 Жыл бұрын
i cant watch future without spiraling so i’m not sure if it’s a testament to how raw and good and relatable stevens arc was or if it was deliberate psychological torture by rebecca and the crewniverse at the start of quarantine to signify the end times
@pozhiratel
@pozhiratel Жыл бұрын
doing what i REALLY want to do (make a video on steven universe future defending it) what people ignore is the PTSD aspect a LOT and how if you get triggered, you can end up coming off as mean and harsh because of said trigger. Of course it's different for some, blah blah blah but my point stands. Also the fact that, he has always had to help SEVERAL people with their issues, a thousand years old or not. I want to make a video being like "Hey, as someone who has suffered from a lot of similar issues, future is accurate representation for me. It is what i have had to struggle with and how I had breakdowns" like dude....dont shit on it for flaws when people that have PTSD and have had and/or are STILL having to help with people's issues when not getting any help for their own whether because they didnt/couldnt ask for it. Anyways good video you are correct on uhh *checks list* everything :)
@HuskyWuskyy
@HuskyWuskyy Жыл бұрын
i really loved future, but i wish they used some episodes differently like a very special episode or bluebird, it felt like there was *some* bits of those episodes that were like oh okay this makes sense in the later half of the season for steven's character, but it *felt* mostly like filler and that's what bothered me, i wish some episodes were just restructured and given more time in the oven to make the season feel more complete. otherwise, i did really love this season and i'm glad we were given proper closure:)
@Whispernyan
@Whispernyan Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but i guess that's what happens when you're given just a single episode to resolve and expand on plot points or characters. Half of the first half episodes would have been entire mini arcs in the main show.
@Aiden32222
@Aiden32222 Жыл бұрын
11:38 perfectly said people keep saying it’s bad because they think that it all got fix with a hug but it didn’t that was just getting him out of his corrupted form like you said
@strikerwott1222
@strikerwott1222 Жыл бұрын
Yessss agreed!!! I love Steven Universe so much; it’s such a special show to me, and I really enjoyed Future honestly!!! I really appreciate what they set out to do and I really appreciate the fact they tackled mental health. I love both of your Steven Universe videos, you really tackled a lot of the good and bad criticisms really well! It’s completely alright if people don’t like the show, but some of the takes I’ve seen from others are just,, what???
@tylerkun72
@tylerkun72 Жыл бұрын
This video shows that just because another video has more views doesn’t mean it’s right. You make so many valid counter points and arguments to the one million view video that completely destroy their argument. W
@AlsayidHaddosh
@AlsayidHaddosh Жыл бұрын
8:16 Honestly I did watch that video All I understood is that he has no idea how basic mental health works I couldn't watch the video without cringing
@gatoleyo7739
@gatoleyo7739 Жыл бұрын
SU: so my finale is not perfect but is enjoyable GoT: mine is too, right? SU: ... GoT: right? SU: *proceeds to leave*
@mercurycures
@mercurycures Жыл бұрын
GO OFF KING we love nuanced critical thinking
@jeremywinston1
@jeremywinston1 Жыл бұрын
it’s not. first episodes were like “wtf” and i felt like it was not necessary but then i started to really like it when they actually started focusing on steven’s feelings.
@Gurkeee
@Gurkeee Жыл бұрын
I love Future besides all it's flaws, so thank u for addressing this in a rational way!!
@omarkhalili6948
@omarkhalili6948 Жыл бұрын
“Let me defend this murder real quick” jord 2023
@shinra6913
@shinra6913 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the show a lot. Both the original and future. My only wish was to see steven deal with a villain that wasn't redeemable. One that can't just be talked to and turned good.
@rafcor6799
@rafcor6799 Жыл бұрын
I cried in the last episode ;-;
@TodosLocosOfficial
@TodosLocosOfficial Жыл бұрын
Most criticism is valid (given that you get your facts right and it's not based on bigotry) given that media is subjective and all, but we really don't see enough praise of this show, and I think it deserves better. I'm really glad you made this
@SunnySunburstx
@SunnySunburstx Жыл бұрын
Glad I left the fandom life a long time ago lol, I loved SUF when it first came out and it still remains my favorite season of the whole SU show. I had no idea so many people hated it. Steven was particularly relatable to me in SUF.
@sensitive_sea_sprite_
@sensitive_sea_sprite_ Жыл бұрын
I really appreciated how objective your opinion was and how you really took the time to assess the show for what it was and its intent. You put everything perfectly
@Duumbo
@Duumbo 15 күн бұрын
That edit was so fire and also you’re content is so good jord
@newthejsterjacob408
@newthejsterjacob408 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I accept the flaws you listed but the pros of future are just so strong for me it’s probably my favorite part of the whole series. The emotions felt here were stronger than ever. Me and my sister freaked the fuck out at the shattering. And when Steven just let everything out in that sob(btw most realistic crying I’ve ever heard) it even brought my dad to tears and I’ve never seen him cry at any show or movie before
@cajunking5987
@cajunking5987 Жыл бұрын
Steven’s form in the thumbnail is really hot
@dodiswatchbobobo
@dodiswatchbobobo Жыл бұрын
They did the best they could. I still would have preferred if Cartoon Network hadn’t jumped the gun and canceled the show when Rebecca pitched the gay wedding a few months before the show blew up. They did their best, but I’d have still preferred the back 20 episodes of Season 6 to “Hey, Rebecca gurrrrllll! So we know you wanted a movie to wrap things up but instead we’re gonna go ahead and order the movie plus those 20 episodes you already scrapped! Yay money!” They did their best, but Steven Universe Future represents Cartoon Network’s complete lack of faith in the show and the ideals their channel reflects, as well as their tone-deaf approach to fandom. So I’m gonna be bitter about it.
@ashes_and_f1re454
@ashes_and_f1re454 Жыл бұрын
FINALLYY, im so glad you explained this, ESPECIALLY the mental health rep in future, so many people argue about steven 'having tantrums like a baby' especially towards the end, and im just like... his mental health is deteriorating homie...... one think that i try to explain to people is yeah future was def rushed 💀, but the reason why steven was so emotional and angry in future, because stevens arc in future, is about his experience with trauma, and an accurate representation about healing from trauma (mainly the bad parts of it) up until the end, along with his outburst at volleyball/pink pearl, trapping everyone in the big ol pink bubble, pushing away the main gems, etc.
@SunshineCasy
@SunshineCasy Жыл бұрын
The violent things that Steven does in the show is definitely exaggeration to show his inner conflict, but we should also remember that he was raised by soldiers, and violence was a part of problem solving in his everyday life. It's why his happy ending is leaving Beach City and that life behind.
@diminie_chimket
@diminie_chimket 2 ай бұрын
Of course it's going to be exaggerated, it's still a cartoon. We need to remember and understand this. It's weird seeing people complain about that when it's obvious why it's the way it is.
@Green_Arrow15
@Green_Arrow15 10 ай бұрын
“Blue diamond sells drugs” 💀😂😂
@fnaf6491
@fnaf6491 Жыл бұрын
I didn't get the hate I Loved Steven universe future
@revehd4144
@revehd4144 Жыл бұрын
One plothole in the movie that is weird that Steven says in the movie he feels like a child but he is still his normal age
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