In-Depth ENDGAME GEAR OP1we Review

[@hausgaming]

One thing to note: These were actually the very first production units, retail units have been improved in terms of click feel!

[@myvmk1]

Very solid mice

[@danithebest1305]

hausgaming what have more grid width the op1 or the viper mini

[@Ico938]

Thanks for the m42 comparison. The fact it's even thinner is surprising! Then again m42 didn't leave a lot of space for your fingers compared to OP1we so should be interesting to feel the difference. Your OP1we grip kinda reminds me of the way I was forced to hold the Asus Harpe Ace because it was so long and it actually helped a lot with my aim.

[@Terra101]

I would main the M42 if it had more space on the sides. And also you need a sharp edge so you get locked in.

[@Chiaomori]

im super excited to see this mouse in person, i think the shape looks phenomenal for my grip style

[@dslander]

Been waiting for this review! Nice! How would this shape be for me with 20x10cm hands and pincer-ftip hybrid? I’m torn between OP1we and XM2we

[@lltalionll]

Nice review. I hope the wired OP1 "White Frost" will be around the same price as the XM1r. I'm really interested by wired mice around 60 grams since i changed my mousepad recently for a Glass Mousepad (will change for nothing, The Pulsar Superglide "Polarity" is my End Game for sure as a Fast Paced Game with High TTK Enjoyer, it's so smooth and fast with some X-Raypad Obsidian dots and the dust issue is just over exaggerated) because compared to cordura (which also have annoying stitching) or hybrid surface the cable doesn't bother me at all if it's a good cable placed in a Bungee. Wired mices are also A LOT CHEAPER. I ordered an Razer Deathadder V3 which will arrive in a few days and i will also buy a wired OP1 "White Frost" with some white SoSpacer v3 grips when available. I also hope that Vaxee and Zowie will update their wired mices (some wireless mices are so badly priced, it's just insane)

[@unotsolucky]

I've been waiting very long for this, will definitely be getting one. Should be a good shape for me.

[@AimAdapt]

Great review as always brother. You made is very clear what it is like to use this mouse and the shots were on point!

[@rranee]

discord? (LMAO i had to , good to see you here, looking forward to your review on this)

[@AimAdapt]

@@rranee lmao

[@joelconolly5574]

I think I've found a good main.

[@Delbs1]

Extremely solid little fella! Feels bad that the shape isn't Viper Mini-Like, but still, cudos to Endgame Gear :)

[@complys]

i havnt been this excited to try a mouse in a very long time

[@RyseShineReviews]

See, I’m excited for a smaller xm1, tried that a while back and it was way to big so the OP1 We would be awesome for me and my hand size

[@dueterdot855]

5:42 Dollar pricings are without taxes so for americans its not even that less pricy

[@DreamingPhenom]

How is the button feedback uniformity? For my G Pro Hero, it is approx. same amount of resistance/actuation force across the entire button (front to back). On many mice, it is way lighter in front, and heavier (often nearly unusable) towards the back. Looking for a new mouse with as even as possible uniformity across the full surface of the buttons.

[@YitbosSwede]

Between the OP1we and Atlantis Mini, which would make less palm contact for (relaxed) fingertip grip? My current favorites are X2 Mini, AJ199, and RVM, but hard to pick which one. Was hoping the OP1we would be the answer, and am hesitant to try the Atlantis Mini. The Atlantis OG V2 and XM2we did not quite work for me (back hump hit palm), but I remember preferring Endgame Gear over Lamzu, mostly on build quality.

[@olsaaan]

I think this might be good for fingertip it has pretty flat sites and the hump isn’t too aggressive

[@General_JJ]

OP1we

[@botdub]

Let me know what you figure out cause my RVM just recently had problems and since the RVM Wireless is never coming out Im curious to know if I should get this or x2 mini, or aj, or like find a series one pro from resellers or something. (also fingertip grip)

[@ecapsdira]

@@botdub can't tell u about the others but x2 mini is a good bit wider and a LOT flatter on the sides compared to rvm for ftip. kinda like if instead of the flare on the rvm sides there was a flat piece of plastic covering the flare between the widest front and back part of the sides

[@feyvre]

Hi Haus, thank you very much for your video, I have been waiting a lot for this mouse for several months. I have a question: what do you think of the original skates? Do they have a glide similar to Corepad or Tiger ice?

[@hausgaming]

Tnanks bro! The og skates are very good, somewhat similar to corepads/tiger ice. EGG has had top tier skates in their mice from the start prett ymuch!

[@VoltaReviews]

Very much looking forward to this release 🔥 The shape looks like it might be a great fit for my preferred grip style. If the click are too heavy, I might swap them out to Huano Blue Shell Pink Dots or something similar

[@lepari9986]

The clicks are optical and you can't. On OP1 wired the switch swapping will be super easy.

[@MitchSilva37]

I think the Ninjutso Sora would have to be the closest in shape to the OP1we, maybe a little slimmer they look extremely close

[@mike_nba]

I will consider the wired version. How was the scroll wheel?

[@moepOo]

It's a (custom) TTC white encoder so it should be fairly good

[@hausgaming]

Very good!

[@lnbabz]

Nice, I am planning on getting the OP1 wired!

[@Guinibee1]

Nice video Haus! Guess I'll be snagging another mouse! When and where can I get this one?

[@hausgaming]

Hard to say, same spots as the XM2we is available in. should be available in the next two weeks!

[@AlexSosa_]

hmm the grip width even thinner than the m42...That's a recipe for hand cramp for me too bad. The mouse looks very solid, well done egg

[@Strapzyboi]

How does the click feel after the new implimentation vs stock lamzu atlantis mini, is it heavier still or lighter?

[@renatotoze]

Thanks to the massive influence on clueless buyers that mouse reviewers have, that are very critical with a shape that is not their style or simply preference, all we have is the same formula being copied from multiple brands and "different" shapes that were successful or just different being ditched. The hand anatomy of one is not the same of another, not mentioning grip style and hybrids or totally unconventional ones. Statements like uncomfortable or mouse is too long, not flat enough or even too flat sides (just an example) should not be present. Its good to point out how it compares to other mice so people have awareness. Cheap fabrication mice with doubtful quality control get praised high. Not ranting here its just this idea I want to pass... Apart from this minor correction I would be pleased to see taken in consideration the video is tremendous. Good Job

[@hausgaming]

I have to disagree. Reviewers are there to provide as much objective detail as possible, but also subjective thoughts according to their preferences! It should be obvious that a mouse which feels too long for me may not be too long for everyone.

[@moc5661]

​@@hausgaming what he's basically saying is you shouldn't give your own opinion on products on your own channel 😂

[@sololakey1906]

Hi haus, i have been maining the atlantis mini for almost a year now, and am looking for something with a slightly higher hump for stability, especially since I aggressive claw. Between the OP1, X2H Med/Mini, which do you think would be a better fit? Or do you have other recommendations?

[@JW06512]

Hi, complete beginner here, when should I be using the spare mouse skates? Should I be replacing them as soon as I get the mouse?

[@hausgaming]

Hey, no need! The stock feet are already good

[@abyeewzer1117]

How would you compare these clicks to xm1 ? I used to love xm1 ones

[@obeliskt1024]

I watched the whole vid but I don't think there was any mention of what switch it has? Does it have optical switches?

[@hausgaming]

Optical, I mentioned Kailh GO 👍

[@SilentJoNn]

i thought you were calling it the "Obi-Wan" for a sec lol

[@bobbyg15]

This is pretty close in shape to the Sora, right?

[@r_se]

the sides are very different but the hump and size look similar

[@ssamehere]

how much thinner does hump feel in hand compared to the m42?

[@Lewisndv]

Wait so when is this being released? Where can I order?

[@hausgaming]

Not sure about the release date, in the next few weeks. Depends where you are from, check XM2we availability, should be the same stores.

[@nootonian4149]

how is the hump compared to the atlantis mini?

[@user-et9hd8kb1n]

Would you recommend this to someone that has mained the za13 for years? I was really looking forward to the viper mini but ye the cobra was not it. I have barely tried any mice in the past few years so I don’t really have anything else to compare it to, not tried any of the pwnage or Lamzu or even the gpx shape. I basically just wanted a wireless za13 but lighter

[@r_se]

this is a lot flatter and shorter than za. i recommend just getting the cryo wireless za13 with v2pro internals if you don't mind the cost. or you could wait for the his g305 za13 to restock, it's cheaper.

[@hausgaming]

There is nothing like the za13c on the market sadly

[@DavisSgt]

​@@hausgamingNot even the Pulsar X2h? Was kinda hoping the rear hump would make it similar ish..

[@testarossa1]

Hi, just wondering if you think this would be good for fingertip? Or are the clicks too stiff towards the top of the triggers?

[@hausgaming]

They are very stiff towards the top, but if you ftip so that your fingers reach the scroll. They are usable for ftip.

[@nickychuah826]

Can't wait for you to review the production unit of LA-1. Looking forward!

[@4bangerkovaaks]

Love to see a mini xm1 !

[@Kasspirr]

One question about the sides, what do you exactly mean by "flat"? Are they like vertical wall |__| like on the Xtrfy M8? Or is there ANY angle \__/ ? So is the mouse wider at the top than at the base?

[@lepari9986]

It's still has angled sides but less so than the XM1 shape has.

[@Kasspirr]

@@lepari9986 Ok, good, that is the reason why I don't use M8 anymore and I dont like relying on grip tape when repositioning mouse.

[@hausgaming]

Think I mention vertically flat in the video!

[@biomechanism1]

Did you notice 4ms clicklatency when spamming?

[@tfisted7556]

That mouse reminds me a Rival 100 from the shape. I'm really interested in op1 and I hope the feeling will be similar to the Rival because I liked it

[@Kasspirr]

I love the fact that It doesn't get wider towards the front of the mouse, the most beautiful thing in Rival 100 shape. For me rival is a little too wide at the back so OP1 can be good for me.

[@erikmichon5906]

@@Kasspirr Amen! the frontal flare killed the Series One Pro for me, otherwise it's an excellent mouse. Been using an Aerox 3 for a while now. I grip the mouse far forward (aggressive claw) and the flat profile (not hourglass) is amazing!

[@Kasspirr]

@@erikmichon5906 Agree, I used Viper Mini which is same shape as Series One, and it was unusable for me. I grip my mice that i have my ring finger at the front and my pinky in the middle and for some reason when my pinky goes more inwards than ring finger It makes my aim so so bad and causes discomfort too. Unfortunetly a lot of mice have this garbage shape feature these days.

[@digitalfruitcake24]

Agree with this 100%, I LOVED the Rival 100/110 shape. I hope this feels similar.

[@casull2041]

any update on this? im looking into getting one as well, wondering i should get this or x2h mini

[@Leopardipzg]

Looks like the shape has similarities with the ZA13. which would be great, definitely the best shape i've tried.

[@hausgaming]

It does share some similarity, but it's still ways apart!

[@Leopardipzg]

​@@hausgaming Definitely sounds like worth a shot anyway. Time to hop back into the mouse business after a few years of hiatus, with this and the MM712 pro version upcoming.

[@hone-pq7pp]

Clickfeel is the same for me with my xm2we. I love this mouse but the clicks just ruin it :(

[@LegendLuna]

great video haus!!!

[@hausgaming]

Thanks!

[@bekturkulov640]

Hello sir , can you please review or just tell us : If using dongle affects your lag(latency etc.) , or I can use receiver directly to PC without any doubt

[@andreiachim9556]

All the receiver does is "move" the USB port closer to your mouse so there's a smaller chance for interference to be a problem. There is no latency added by using the dongle.

[@Fatal_Error_Gaming]

Nice Haus, waiting on LA-1 myself. Those clicks scare me for sure. 🤘🤘

[@paul2609]

Excited for this mouse

[@paulmartinez34]

My hand size is 17x10 and i relaxed claw grip all my fingers are slightly curl, so you're saying it's not good for my hand size and gripstyle? Also what's your first impressions on the gsr 2?

[@ImmortalSystem12]

KYSONa m600. zaopin z1 pro . opwe01. m42 wireless are the better what u can buy i think

[@paulmartinez34]

I'll wait for the op1 wired

[@oyebantai]

Do you prefer this one or Atlantis mini for fingertip claw?

[@hausgaming]

This, vertically flat sides are a must for ftip grip.

[@ching8733]

The click latency on lamzu 4k, is it with the new firmware update? Or before update?

[@hausgaming]

Old firmware, haven't had time to retest

[@dontpokethebear3893]

LA-1 review incoming?

[@danithebest1305]

what is better aqua control zero or gigantus v2?

[@Vandil0]

Im curious if they will release OP1we and OP1w at the same time

[@lepari9986]

Not coming same time. OP1we will be the first one and then wired will come slightly after.

[@a6m41]

@@lepari9986 I thought the naming scheme is op1 = wired op1we = wireless essential op1w = premium wireless option with a 3395

[@lepari9986]

@@a6m41 yes you're correct.

[@fIREbALL1990]

Would this mouse be a good substitute for a kinzu v2 in size / grip?

[@r_se]

htx looks closer to kinzu judging by eloshapes.

[@warlix]

How would you say the OP1we compares to the lamzu atlantis mini size wise (length)? Also how would you compare the op1we to the np-01s? As a claw user there's a lot of mice to choose from

[@thinkforyourself5672]

Have you used the NP1 0S yet?

[@warlix]

@@thinkforyourself5672 Nope, but it's defenitely a mouse i'd like to try

[@mikekonkola1231]

Do u still main the m42?

[@Falasteeny]

Hey haus, what res are you using for CSGO?

[@hausgaming]

The 4:3 1440p one, I think its 1920x1440?

[@MrSofSof]

Hype this man!

[@_musacci]

any idea when this mouse will be released?

[@hausgaming]

In the next few weeks!

[@luk8958]

when it will be available

[@hausgaming]

Monday!

[@luk8958]

@@hausgaming rly???? !!!

[@amishdoink]

I still don't understand why you use different polling rates when testing click latency or motion latency in the same graph, don't you want to match the polling rates so you can see a 1 to 1 difference between the mice? Of course a higher polling rate will have less latency

[@lepari9986]

I mean most people use the highest polling rate they can with their mouse so it only makes sense.

[@saturnnnfps]

gsr 2 spotted?

[@hausgaming]

yes!

[@TheGuma09]

should i get OP1we or XM2we?

[@f4rs0t]

Which mouse you recommend for pincer claw 18x11cm hands

[@hausgaming]

I'd go for anything with an aggressive hump. This one is good, most ergo mice work very well as well.

[@f4rs0t]

@@hausgaming so Death Adder V3 is good? Loved the G703 but its to heavy and gpx is kind small

[@andrewsmith9241]

This or the x2h mini?

[@hausgaming]

I enjoy both, but the OP1we edges over the X2H for me.

[@angelaguilar4121]

@@hausgaming I'm getting a new mouse this week and I'm still deciding between both X2H or OP1... leaning towards OP1 so far

[@---cs8nt]

I would buy this mouse but i dont like the hard clicks/switches btw nice aim💪

[@ImmortalSystem12]

18x10 my hand my shape favorite are .darkmoshark m3s mini. m42 wireless .zaopin z1 pro . pwnage symm 2 kysona m600

[@defu8592]

Kinda looks like a small ROG Harpe Ace

[@MattL4J]

Does anyone know haus hand size?

[@hausgaming]

19x10cm! It should be mentioned somewhere in the video!

[@MattL4J]

@@hausgaming my bad :L

[@AlexCS2]

x2-h or this?

[@hausgaming]

Check the latter part of comparisons, it should indicate the shape difference. I'm not sure which I prefer yet.

[@3xplosiv0]

i love heavy clicks so that's a plus for me lol

[@xblastoyz]

Just my take on the OP1we... I feel like its going to struggle competing with Lamzu and Pulsar. The unboxing was released and felt very underwhelming. Didnt come with extra skates or mouse grips like its competitors. No 4k compatibility which i feel everyone is looking for in newer mice. I love my XM1 and endgame as a brand, just feel like this will be hard to attract customers with what it has to offer. Swappable switches is a great feature but will it be enough?

[@nephilim475]

EGG's "we" mice are supposed to be the more affordable version of all their mice, I can live with not getting extra skates or grips. But they will be coming out with a 4k op1 in the near future though. For the op1we the competitors do have them beat spec wise but EGG has an awesome reputation for QC and their coating is one of the best. I personally think it will be able to compete with a lot of its competitors because in the end of the day most gamers truly only care about shape than specs.

[@a6m41]

​@nephilim475 i hope they will release the op1w soon and not have such a delay like the xm2w

[@eldemetrio5048]

is it hotswap switch?

[@Miketacticz]

No

[@fwabble]

Honestly Endgame Gear making the we versions for those that truly don't believe the 'latest tech' makes 'ONE SINGLE OUNCE' of a difference, is SO SO appreciated and sets them WELL APART IMO - I love EGG if they keep prices sensible. Their latest mouse pad is just way OP IMO. Would cost me near £50 here in the UK.... Just no.

[@fwabble]

Well.... I bought the EM-C anyway ££££ ;0;

[@Keyboard915]

Unfortunate to hear the relaxed claw comments. Anyone else know of a mouse for that grip that isn't annoyingly big?

[@hausgaming]

X2 Mini can work!

[@Keyboard915]

@@hausgaming Appreciate the comment! I tried that shortly after release and remember it feeling a bit too short and a lil flat. I probably should have specified I am 19x10cm and would like some more lower palm contact to secure it.

[@brunotolomeotti1204]

Ninjutso Sora from the looks is the same

[@hausgaming]

Looks very similar, but hand feel is very different. Not gonna lie, I forgot the whole existence of Sora 😩

[@Raynoxfps]

instant buy

[@mustafasadmansakib]

Ploop

[@nothingness863]

I like how they again have promised the availability in june/july and it's still not there in august. and the latest update regarding xm2w on a special dedicated website was in december 2022, they went from top tier to mediocre, what bunch of clowns.

[@jm8080ful]

it's 2023, if this costs a $100 or more without 4k polling rate capability then it is a no buy from me

[@AGXJDM]

Why does 4k polling rate matter lmfao its not like its gonna make you a better player. Every FPS pro player still uses 1k polling rate btw so you just a 🐑

[@wagwondan5872]

Same exact shaped as Lamzu mini