In Depth Video On Gaea VS GeoGen VS World Creator

[@jaspertidigu6090]

Great video king...thank you,i needed this,im going to go with GAEA on account of better results but im seeing render times and crashes are a problem so il have world creator as a backup

[@kiwivi21]

@@jaspertidigu6090 thank you and sounds like a great plan. Hope gaea serves you well and you don't get too many crashes 🔥

[@TorQueMoD]

Great video. Something you didn't touch on was render times. World Machine and Gaea being node based means that they are CPU bound for rendering the heightmaps and take FOREVER to output once you get into tiled worlds and ultra high resolutions. I was rendering a 64km2 (8x8 @ 1024) heightmap with World Machine for 14 hours and it was only half finished before I gave up. World Creator supposedly uses GPU rendering, so I'm going to try that.

[@kiwivi21]

@@TorQueMoD yep, world creator and geogen both use GPUs for processing so are fairly quick, as you mentioned gaea (and world machine) are cpu bound and definitely take a good bit longer but gaea 2 does have some nodes that support the GPU so is a good increase in performance 👍hope world creator serves you well

[@TorQueMoD]

@@kiwivi21 Worse comes to worse, I've always got World Machine as a backup. lol. I'm just tired of losing my computer for days trying to render a world.

[@TorQueMoD]

Oh damn! I'm an idiot. I was trying to export the heightmap at 8K per tile instead of 1K lol. Soon as I fixed that, WM exported it in 4 minutes. Sadly there's now a grid across my entire landscape so the tiling isn't seamless, so I'll likely still grab World Creator. lol

[@kiwivi21]

@TorQueMoD lmao glad you found a fix, hopefully not too hard to fix the tile issue

[@oWIZARDO]

Thank you for the detailed review. Im looking into deciding which tool to use to build a terrain for my game. Been enjoying Gaea 1, its been super fun and easy. Just a but disapointed on the stability of G2, i cant get any progress. They dont seem to sell G1 licence anymore, looks like were forced to G2. This made me consider GEOGEN. It felt familiar but having a hard block, my worlflow in Gaea is almost tiled based. If I want to create an isand and dvide that island into zones within different terrains, youll be stuck as there is notion of multi combine nodes and missing a mask node. Might try world creator next

[@kiwivi21]

Hey can completely agree with g2 being unstable and wanting to use g1, I believe the team plans to add g1 download back onto the website but not sure when it will go up. This get.gaea.app/Release/Gaea-1.3.2.7.exe has been posted on the gaea website to work if you have a gaea 1 license(by the devs so its safe, feel free to pop into the discord in case you don't trust the link as downloading random links can be dodgy👍) Otherwise geogen is pretty good and has a free trial so would always say is worth at least checking out whether or not you end up using it. Best of luck and hope whatever you find in the end suits your workflow, hopefully gaea 2's instability is mostly gone by the end of the year

[@NeerajLagwankar]

Nice breakdown. Would have liked to see some images and the software UI with demo along with voiceover as well.

[@kiwivi21]

@NeerajLagwankar i have some videos breaking down geogen but that would have been a great idea. Might make a seperate video breaking them down at some point, thanks

[@EDRED22]

Hey thanks for this. I agree Gaea seems to be the option, to invest time into. Just wish 2.0 was a bit more finished and less buggy!

[@kiwivi21]

Same honestly, really enjoying using it but at the same time theres a lot of nodes that are not working or cause crashes and that includes important ones like the normals node in g2. But oh well its still being tested and isnt fully out yet so we can only hope that at least the main stuff are working when the full release happens later this month. But Gaea 1 is still really awesome in its current state and plenty good to use so will definitely be enjoying it until gaea 2 is in a more usable state

[@realmcafee]

perfect video. havent watched a second but im sure its good faith and exactly why i clicked. going to like, subscribe and comment.

[@kiwivi21]

@@realmcafee thank you very much 🔥

[@abitcrazytw]

This is the exact topic I am researching this week, for my future game development in plan. I was about to grab World Creator Professional becasue of it's Unreal Bridge (one click landscape sync with Unreal) and it's quite easy to use layer-base workflow. For sure, there are more beginner tutorial videos from youtube that gave me a lot more confidence getting the software, as a terrian beginner. I was a bit struggle comparing between GeoGen and WorldCreator because building a spherical planet is one of my game development needs too. But I was just not so sure about GeoGen's capability in this alpha stage comparing to some other planet building solution like WorldScape and also Voxel Plugin Pro 2.0. Thanks for your detailed info and I might better have some indepth look of Geogen before making the purchase.

[@kiwivi21]

@abitcrazytw im glad the video helped, feel free to watch some of my prior videos on geogen if you want an idea as well as being able to check out the trial. If you end up siding with world creator you always have that 14 day trial of geogen you could pump out some planets for you project with 👍. Hope your project goes well and whatever you choose serves you well. Also on a side note gaea 2 is also getting an unreal bridge so if that is a key thing and you can wait for the release of it (later this month) then that may work well

[@abitcrazytw]

​@@kiwivi21 Thanks for your reply. I will definitely give GG a try but I am still considering getting the Suite package seems it's really a good deal with the EmberGen / LiquidGen. There is no GG Planet creation with UE5 export demo in youtube or even on internet. Some people asking around like readit but cannot find any further info. I think the only way to get to know better is try myself... maybe I can share a video sooner too if I've discover any technique worth sharing. I've viewed your video for planet creation, thanks! I am also consider Houdini this ground/jaw breaking tech will be added in my game dev workflow especially for indie developer like me:)

[@kiwivi21]

@abitcrazytw yea flick through a video onto any of my comments if you ever find anything interesting 🔥 otherwise I would really recommend the suite especially as i believe there is also another tool coming out soon albeit I dont really know much about what it will be.

[@JoachimPileborg]

I like GeoGen, especially since it has a native Linux build... 🙂 It has good potential I think. But one thing I miss in it is the Gaea satmap system, which makes it *very* easy to get good coloring. The color gradients of GeoGen are similar, but feels harder to use and get good results out of. Perhaps a good idea for a future GeoGen tutorial, how to color the terrain in a nice way? 😉

[@kiwivi21]

@JoachimPileborg its great that geogen supports linux as that can be fairly rare, even saw it running on a steamdeck which was surprising. Completely agree about the satmaps, i really love the fuctionality of them and the fact there is something like 1000 gradients. It means you can get away with almost anything without outside eyedropping. Can allow for much quicker randomization for textures. Lastly thank you for the idea xD, would be something worth making a tutorial on. Might try working on and getting one out today 🔥

[@Mr.Mirage_YT]

there are many terrain softwares but i wanna know which one is worth learning to make it in industry? gaming or movie

[@kiwivi21]

@Mr.Mirage_YT honestly tricky question, going onto each website you can see what companies have used their software in the past if thats any help. Outside of that probably Gaea or Houdini, i believe a lot of companies just use houdini for these sorts of things from what I have seen but that is quite the massive leap up compared to really any of these. But yea take this response with a grain of salt as Im not currently in the industry so this is just off my observations. Ultimately they all have been used for games and movies (maybe less geogen as thats in alpha and less than a year old) which is not to say it wont be in the future 👍

[@HOLOGRAMYOUTUBE]

learn houdini, there is nothing to learn in gaea,world creator.both of them barely take 10-12 hour for basic understanding.

[@Mr.Mirage_YT]

@@HOLOGRAMKZbin Houdini have big community like tutorials courses regarding making terrian landscapes or gaea? what you think. nd houdini get used in industry ?