in Her Own Words | Kristin Harila's CHILLING Encounter on K2

[@MysteryClown]

I'm from Norway, and OBoy she got a lot of crap in the media and in the Social Media after that summit trip. I know she took it very heavily, but she did what she could have done. It's all those journalists who don't know a shit about what they're writing, If somebody writing an article about death on K2, they should know what you're talking about. Shame on them Im sorry to Hear that you've had a similar experience in the media, where people jump to conclusions without Do any research befor posting a story. And tanks for making this story about Kristin

[@EverestMystery]

Thanks so much for watching and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Kristin deserves more than she received....I can empathize with her predicament, and am still amazed at her physical abilities to have completed all 14 8000m peaks in 92 days. Incredible. I appreciate your thoughts and glad you took the time to comment.

[@Vourn-75]

And it's sad that most of those journalists don't even step a foot on any of those summits

[@Dobeenk]

@@Vourn-75 probably never even been in a climbing gym. They live in their offices and are always inflating stories for a headline that’s 90% false. So incredibly stupid

[@OverwhelmedMushroom]

I think so many media consumers and creators really have no idea of the conditions of the mountain, and all of the other factors at play. Its easy to condemn while warm and comfortable on the couch. Shes such a thoughtful person and the exact type of person you'd want to share a trail/climb with. I can't wait to read your book!

[@rickquist3992]

Mad respect for Kristin.

[@M_Rasmussen58]

Excellent interview! So important to hear the truth on how this situation unfolded and what the decisions made by her and her team were based upon. Very important for the truth to be told, especially when you have cowards sitting in their homes gaining enjoyment from attacking those involved in this horrible incident.

[@lady2550]

I don't understand why people feel like other climbers MUST be responsible for each other. Sure its nice to have someone there in a pinch however not at the cost of their own lives. I feel that climbers know the risks and take them willingly. Maybe this will set as a reminder to others that experience is a must and even still does not guarantee success summit and back down. Thank you for sharing your own experience and hers.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you so much....I truly appreciate the thoughts and the insight. Your first sentence is something to really consider and have a conversation about, especially when it comes to things that happen above 8000 meters in the Death Zone.

[@tkatrich3]

I assume they've never climbed a mountain and don't realise it's hard enough to keep yourself alive let alone someone who often by the death stories either A. Should 100% not be up there due to not being equipped or have enough training. B. Has been caught up in ego and is insisting on going up in bad conditions.

[@tomk3732]

In this case they did not rescue the guy - despite as per her claim there was like 100 of them b/c they would have endangered summit for the said 100 people. That was the main reason. I am experienced mountaineer. Real one. Messner said what she is doing is not mountaineering and I agree. We need new sports category - say sports mountaineering.

[@oyajiblues]

I agree with you, but keep in mind it is people who don’t stop because they appear to e putting more importance on summiting than a human life. ere is no blame for not saving someone from a situation they created for themselves.

[@aquariusthompson8212]

@@tomk3732 not their responsibility to rescue

[@handleunico]

Passing under a serac is like playing Ru**ian roule**e. Kristin said she could do it in 10 minutes. Having stopped for an hour and a half under the serac to provide aid meant taking the risk of pulling the tri**er not once but ten times. This is incontrovertible proof of the best intentions and great courage.

[@tjhoss6729]

She seems like a very respectful and classy lady. Thank you for the story.

[@mfreund15448]

It sounds like her and her team were well prepared and he was not.That is not her fault.

[@EverestMystery]

Yes....absolutely. Thank you for watching!

[@schwabra]

Mountaineering is forging a path to a goal while facing our ideals in extreme situations. Each encounter can show us our peaks as well as our most primal survival instincts. As the first Everest Mystery demonstrates, going farther always has risks. I would never want my choices to push myself to cause another to be put in danger. These incidents should motivate us to make these occurrences fewer and farther between each while also giving a greater appreciation for all who struggle to meet us on our own journeys. I salute the spirit which drove Muhammed Hassan to risk himself to provide for his family. I hope that others facing the same will accomplish their goals without needing to make the same sacrifice. I will always be humbled by porters' devotion and strength. May their memories serve to elevate all who strive to touch the top of our dreams. Kristen Harila, what an accomplishment! Thank you for this interview as well. Thom, thank you as well.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you for watching and for sharing your thoughts. I totally agree with you. I also want to thank you for supporting the channel!

[@matthewnewton8812]

I don’t understand how Hassan was providing for his family by going up there without the proper attire and with no oxygen? Was it a financial burden that he could not afford? If so, I still feel the conclusion is that he shouldn’t have been up there. But then again, I know nothing about mountaineering, except for what I’ve seen in the Monty Python sketch about climbing Mount Kilimanjaro. “The twin peaks of Mount Kil-“ *covers one eye*…”Im sorry, the single peak of Mount Kilimanjaro…”

[@robertg.arbuckle6838]

My comments have my name on them. And I subscribe. I think this is The channel for the truth. Thank you so much!!

[@EverestMystery]

It's great having you here, thank you my friend!

[@msbeecee1]

Thabk u for giving her a platform to tell.her story in full context

[@josaphine9422]

It is just commendable to even try and stop to help somone at that alltitude where those guys could have lost their own life. For ignorant people it is easy to just type sitting on ghe comfort of their couch and blame someone who is at 8000+ and on K2. It is really shame how people cannot digest her success and were so busy comparing her to nirmal purja and calling her out on social media. What she and lama did was incredible and nothing can take that away from them. She showed incredible strength and determination. ❤

[@Weonlyknewoneway]

Npcs being npcs

[@Weonlyknewoneway]

@@tomk3732 Harila is a legend and deserves her glory for her achievements.. two years in a row she climbed these 8000m mountains ... all but one twice! All the npcs throwing salt on her wounds are despicable in my opinion . Trying to tear down someones epic achievement because someone died on the expedition on k2 is absolutely ignorant. Cant wrap my head around how people that dont know absolutely anything about high altitude mountaineering continue to call out harila and make her achievement as if its meaninglessness... Everyone on those mountains know the danger involved. End of story. No one goes to K2 and doesnt know its the most dangerous mountain in the world! !

[@tomk3732]

@@Weonlyknewoneway I am a high altitude mountaineer and have gone above 8000m. My opinion is shared by other mountaineers - such as Messner. It is not just her stepping over a guy - its also her luck of style and attempts to still call this mountaineering. It should be in its own class of "sports mountaineering". I mean for God's sake, I know its a different challenge for everyone - but getting pulled up on short rope or using unlimited oxygen is a bit much.

[@Weonlyknewoneway]

@@tomk3732 listen . She wasn't being short roped . We're not talking about Sandy Pittman on everest. Kristin is an animal a real high altitude mountaineer . She climbed the 14 peaks twice ! (Minus one the first time) Have you climbed K2 twice?! Have you climbed Annapurna twice ??? Wtf are you talking about man?! Who made you judge and jury? If it was you up there I know for a fact you wouldn't have done anything!! So cut out the disrespectful insult spewing . It's not becoming of a high altitude mountaineer. Sounds so cringe to see your messages throwing dirt on her name when you don't even have story straight. Come on dude..

[@tomk3732]

@@Weonlyknewoneway I have an eye witness statement from a women that was climbing in front of her (Dorota) about the short roping and switching Sherpa every hour or so. It was on Annapurna or Nanaga Parbat. If it was me up there I would not have used any Sherpa or oxygen. And yes I climb above 8000 without any support or oxygen. I do not throw dirt at her. She already has plenty on herself. I am simply stating the facts. I am also exposing total BS. Sure, with the level of support she had I would not mind to do the 14 - and I would challenge myself to do under 90 days to beat her record. You got spare half a million? I would not call it mountaineering through but "sports mountaineering" and I would like a to be included in a new category. You obviously do not climb high - if you did you would know her achievement is more in line with running multiple marathons back to back then the actual mountaineering - thus new designation I propose.

[@cameltrophy3]

The bottleneck is easily one of the most dangerous places on Earth. There is a huge cliff face made of ice seracs leaning over the precipice of a sheer snow-covered cliff of slick granite. He did not have proper equipment or experience. I blame him, and his employer for allowing it to happen. Harila helped as she should have. She did as much as could be expected. At these altitudes you cannot just hang out. The bottleneck is so dangerous you don't want to be there long and they hung out trying to save him, when there was no saving him. He should never have been past Basecamp.

[@EverestMystery]

I agree completely. Thank you for watching! More coming soon with Kristin, too

[@NavigatorMother]

She's right when she says "... It was all about me. It was a tragic accident (but it was made all about me)." It was about inexperience, and the bottleneck. And if those people wanting to comment need it to be about them, then it's about the worst of human nature brought out by social media, (and I should speak for myself as well) people speaking about things they don't know enough about, and potentially and unnecessarily ruining someone's spirit in the process.

[@carl8568]

I don't think he'd literally even been past basecamp, before that climb. It's insane he was allowed up there, and with no down suit or O2.

[@dana102083]

@NavigatorMother so agree with you!! I don't think she deserves this at all. People don't understand the bottleneck neck and what K2 is.. everest is a breeze in comparison..uncliping and recliping over a hundred people isn't worth her life..people are daft. They can say what they want about climbing tourism but it pays people and he shouldn't have been up there. RiP but people need to fight for better regulation of porters, sherpa and climbers in general.

[@NavigatorMother]

@@dana102083 🙏🏻🕊🌎🌻

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

wasn’t aware of this story. Thank you for sharing it in such a thoughtful way. ✌️

[@briAction]

The snow line is so crisp. Great shots! Thanks for the recon! 😁

[@dana102083]

It was great to hear her side of things, congratulations on your record! 🎉 beinf in the death zone at the bottleneck on K2, I dont blame her one bit to keep going at that point.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you for watching, and for visiting the channel!

[@deeplorable8988]

She celebrated on the summit and below without a word about the dying porter. She's no hero, but a narcissist who uses lowly paid sherpas to gain unearned glory. This is the modern society we live in.

[@dana102083]

@@deeplorable8988 she should celebrate her feat. She achieved it. She could do nothing for that man. What would you want her to do? Please tell me, because from my understanding it was up, or risk her life crossing g paths of a hundred people in or just under bottleneck. Why aren't you chasticizing any of the other people on the mountain? We live in a narcissistic world, so why blame her when she could do nothing..

[@oswaldcobblepot502]

God will test you. For instance, will you sacrifice your climbing record to save a dying man? And he places the timing of the test JUST AS you are about to obtain your achievement after working so long and hard for it. Will you sacrifice it all right at the very end for the sake of doing what's right?

[@dana102083]

@@oswaldcobblepot502 I'm disabled and not a climber. I'm a registered nurse and trust me when I say I'd do anything to help another person EXCEPT put myself in harms way. You stated something incorrect-- there is no savi g if he cannot walk himself out, which he couldn't. You need to be realistic about what can actually happen. If I were there I'd have to keep moving regardless of direction after a certain point. It is the death zone and is bottle neck and I will die if i get cold and cognitivelyimpaored from.altitidue sickness. This isn't some easy location or safe. It's too easy to say what to do when many won't even do it at sea level..what about that? Nothing could be done. Many people may already have some altitude sickness, it's a mental impairment. What exactly do you think should have been done for the man? And please explain how much space that requires and how much oxygen they had to take that much time. But they're in the bottleneck in death zone and how many people are linednup? Over 100? How safe is it to cross and unclip that many people in a bad area.. I am tested everyday with life and we all.make decisions but it won't change the fact that man shouldn't have been there and he died from altitude related sickness and succuming to it and not able to walk himself out of danger. Rest his soul.

[@clarebrady1532]

I can't imagine what it's like to go through that and witness all that and then make the decisions to do what you can mindful of your own safety and then to come home to people who have never even seen a mountain or done any research piling on you for a situation they've never been in and refuse to understand. Takes such mental fortitude to do these climbs and come through that. Much respect to you Kristin.

[@lorrainemingrino9928]

Thank you for letting Kirsten tell her story! The Truth! Blessings to both of you!

[@deniseelsworth7816]

Very interesting to hear her speaking herself.

[@EverestMystery]

She is very articulate and really a kind, sensitive person....it was really cool having her on the channel to talk about her experience

[@OriginalSlash63]

one of the most frustrating things i encounter, whilst watching the many mountaineering videos , is the lack of empathy and understanding of ALOT of the viewers. I have watched (consumed) hundreds of videos on Everest ,K2 , Cho Oyu , Manaslu ...et al. I KNOW (from informed research not experience) that saving another person at high altitude is near impossible given PERFECT conditions let alone topographical constraints, Weather conditions and the victims ability to perambulate in any manner to assist in their own rescue. And yet , the mountaineering elite (whose summit palmares include Mont Couch and Col du Bed!) way into the conversation with bile churning regularity claiming "they should have saved them by ...(insert the appropriate superhuman effort here)!" If you have ever tried to carry a grown man at sea level you would know how ridiculous these comments are . On a human level , no one WANTS another human to die (and most assuredly not in close proximity with an overwhelming sense of helplessness)! Not withstanding the very human aspect of someone dying (literally) in your arms or nearby , the physical act of saving someone at high altitude (bringing them down the mountain) is well beyond one individual and requires a very strong team (and even then its extremely difficult if not near impossible). If you must comment about the senseless loss of life , do so from a position of knowledge and understanding of the difficulties that were present. No one pillarises firemen for NOT running into a burning building to save someone who may already be dead! Have some compassion for an individual (or group) who have to deal with the awful grief and guilt that a mountain tragedy like this creates for the rest of their lives. I applaud Kristin for surviving the unnecessary backlash from this experience , and I am in awe of her achievement , that has been largely overlooked . Thank You for channel, the content is always balanced and well researched .

[@Scottyboyhvacdude]

Its very simple, when embarking on a climb like this each individual is responsible for his or her own safety. Other climbers owe you nothing, thats the situation you chose to put yourself in. This women and her team did all the could have and probably more than they should have.

[@matthewnewton8812]

I still don’t understand what she’s supposed to have done wrong. Some other person screwed up on the mountain and died, not part of her group, and she was blamed? Why her? Just her? Was anybody else blamed too? If I’m understanding the facts correctly that’s not merely unfair, it’s actually irrational. My estimation about how this insane story came about- editors are always making their journalists find controversy- whether it exists or not- in order to attract clicks/views to their website. When they got their grubby little hands on news of a death on the mountain, they turned it from what it was (a tragedy) into something it wasn’t (malicious). Then, the vast majority of people who read about this artificial controversy were laypeople who understand 0.0000 about mountaineering. They will simply swallow whole whatever the journalists foist down their throat. My guess is that virtually 100% of the people leaving those outrageous comments on her social media pages are such laypeople, who read a single 250 word article that incorrectly pointed a finger at this lady. Knowing nothing about climbing and thus being unable to glean that they were being lied to, they simply adopted the identical POV as the article, hopped over to her social media, posted some shambolic self righteousness (cuz people need clicks and likes as much as newspapers), then closed the window and promptly forgot everything they read. If you sought out a random 20 of those posters and asked them now what they thought, 19 of them would say something like, “Kristin who….?”. So, truly I wouldn’t worry if I were her about these disgusting people. They are meaningless social media fodder. Fodder for the periodicals, fodder for the social media companies, fodder for the advertisers who buy ads on social media media and the periodicals….Theyre human fodder- being used by everyone and too dumb to know it.

[@carlswenson5403]

Great Mountaineering content. Id love to hear what Ed Viesturs or maybe Messner has to say about this incident. People on solid ground at sea level know jack shit about the serac and the bottleneck. I mean, its basically the size of a stadium, and chunks the size of apartment buildings peel away from it at random

[@EverestMystery]

Good call, it really would be good to hear their take on it. I'm always endeavoring to hear from other greats on the channel. Thank you for your thoughts and for watching!

[@carlswenson5403]

@@EverestMystery You make good content, Its refreshing to see quality stuff from a person whos actually been there (or at least on an 8km peak, I don't know if you've been up the Abruzzi). I'm by no means an elite alpinist, but I am an accomplished amateur, and my exposure to huge features was on the west butt of Denali. There is no way the average person can fully appreciate the scale of these things or the difficulty of existence in that place without actually being on a big mountain. Makes me wonder what the public thought of Alister Crowley. I'm not surprised at the public reaction to this story, but lets face it, it's just another in the long line of stories twisted by the press. Thankfully those who are educated and experienced in these things understand and people like yourself are publishing content with 100% transparency.

[@einarpost]

Messner has been interviewed about it. I hate to put words in his mouth, but it was in german and mine is not good… I think he said something like : sucks to get in trouble on the bottleneck and the the commercialization of 8000’ers with the different teams/expeditions has created a situation were no-one wants or even is able coordinate a rescue.

[@paxundpeace9970]

​@@einarpostabout that what he said but it is difficult because conditions and route are not the same anymore

[@tomk3732]

At least Messner said this is not real mountaineering and is disgusting. I am sure Ed if he had voiced an opinion he would have agreed.

[@lady2550]

Wow the description is very explanatory. I cannot wait to hear her story

[@ModernVintage31]

I posited the following question in the comments to a different creator’s video about this situation: If your adult kid was also there in the bottleneck, would you want or expect them to make heroic efforts to save Mr. Hassan, knowing it would very dramatically increase the odds of your kid dying in the attempt? That video had thousands of comments from people screeching that Kristin (and others but mostly her) should have magically passed the man down the mountain like a coconut down a conga line. Yet only a couple people bothered to engage with my question in an honest, meaningful way. Generally the responses were of the “well MY KID wouldn’t have been there anyway!”. Completely ignoring the question. Congrats to Ms. Harila, Lama Sherpa and team.

[@EverestMystery]

Great question....thank you. I'm sorry that you were pummeled in the comments on the other channel. I'd be curious to know where that video is. I know of another channel that often attacks people of differing opinions. People who do that are no friend of this channel...and, between you and me and anyone who reads this comment, people who troll and are unkind are blocked immediately. As you may have ventured from this video and another video that I did with a noted high altitude journalist discussing the many gray areas of this story, as well as the absolute uncertainty and almost impossibility of saving Mr. Hassan's life at that location, I think it close to absurd that people would condemn all the climbers in the bottleneck for not doing everything in their power to do something differently. It would likely have led to more loss of life. Here is the video, called "About K2: Clients Won't Save You (And They're All Clients": kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJnJapapi5dlnJY Most people, and I say this respectfully, have absolutely zero knowledge of what it's like to function at that altitude, let alone perform immense physical tasks, on extreme high-angled locations, under massive walls of ice, amidst avalanche like conditions. I have witnessed deaths at that altitude and also have seen some miracles. My gut tells me that Mr. Hassan fell because he was nearing some point of no return. He was unresponsive for much of the time he was dangling below the route. That Lama Sherpa - with Kristin Harila there - went to such great lengths was an heroic effort, which added comfort and an element of humanity to the person laying there on his back, Mr. Hassan. It's a difficult story to hear.... However, to judge those up there when we know nothing of what it was like, is wrong.

[@basquat76]

Well people can lie to question but it does say a lot about you. You brought up a kid and not even yourself. So we know where you stand on it. No way am i risking myself to help a fellow human being. You belong on a deserted island. That is the proper society for you.

[@tomk3732]

Yes of course. If I was there and someone got hurt I would try to help even if it meant I may die. I am ... a mountaineer. I would be very, very unhappy if my adult son or daughter stepped over someone dying - however, I understand they are part of new mountaineering that I call "sports mountaineering" which does not have the same social norms as regular mountaineering. I did participate in high altitude rescue. I was close to two others. They had 100 people going, weather window was small, there could be no future windows or new window would be say a 10 days away. People have to go to their jobs. Etc. almost no one would have attempted another summit Almost no one! So millions of USD would be in danger. That was the main reason. She states bottleneck is only 10 min. So people behind her could step back - 10 min is nothing! Then they could have in maybe 30min removed the guy from the bottleneck and the 100 would pass. But the 100 are selfish pigs and that 1h is way too much for them - what if it was 1.5??? Also multiple teams would need to give up their Sherpa - who would have pulled Mrs. Harila up the mountain ;) As she states the rescue team would need extra oxygen - who would sacrifice one of their bottles and risk their summit?

[@aquariusthompson8212]

Yeah of course ppl going to lie and say they're risk their like to save someone in the mountain...capping

[@Vourn-75]

Many would jump into conclusion and judge even they themselves never climb any of those above 8000 metres peaks. When you decide to climb and even working as sherpa and guide, you know the risks and you have to embrace the consequences. Why blame Kristin? So, if you don't know anything about it and not even there to see and first hand experience the incident and merely watching the video and news, just don't comment.

[@teijaflink2226]

I feel specially if it's a woman who achieves something amazing.

[@Weonlyknewoneway]

Harila is a legend and deserves her glory for her achievements.. two years in a row she climbed these 8000m mountains ... all but one twice! All the npcs throwing salt on her wounds are despicable in my opinion . Trying to tear down someones epic achievement because someone died on the expedition on k2 is absolutely ignorant. Cant wrap my head around how people that dont know absolutely anything about high altitude mountaineering continue to call out harila and make her achievement as if its meaninglessness... Everyone on those mountains know the danger involved. End of story. No one goes to K2 and doesnt know its the most dangerous mountain in the world! !

[@user-pv6xo1ti4c]

I think Kristin Harila adequately answered why she was celebrating on the summit. She, Tenjen Lama Sherpa, Gabriel, etc. did offer aid to Muhammad Assan. It appears that she thought other climbers were going to conduct a rescue, but did not. There did seem to be a lack of a larger rescue effort started by his team and employer. It is a tragedy, and a larger rescue effort should have been started sooner. Maybe Kristin should have tried to turn the many climbers around. I would have thought she was a hero for trying to coordinate such a difficult rescue whether it was successful or not. Although, if other people died during the rescue effort, people might have blamed her for that. It is very impressive that Kristin and Tenjen Lama Sherpa summited the fourteen 8000 peaks in such a short time. I would have definitely considered her a hero if she had coordinated a successful rescue effort. She did not cause the accident, but she might have had the management skills to coordinate a rescue with the help of other climbers more skilled in rescues. Was a successful rescue possible? Likely as possible as climbing 14 peaks in 3 months. There would have been a great amount of risk. I do think she thought that other people would continue the rescue effort.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you for the thoughtful comment. Many have been very harsh and judgmental of Kristin. I am grateful that she took the time to speak about this with me, and I'm more than satisfied there's nothing more they could do. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to share your insights. If you're interested, here is a video of her talking about her friendship to Lama, which I think is very touching: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5a5ZauCaa6Bm8U

[@wolfpecker5710]

Did you watch the interview? It would have only been possible if he would have been able to walk, but he was far passed that state. They have tried to perform rescues through the bottle neck at K2 before and it resulted in the deaths of several of the people attempting the rescue. It’s not like Everest where you have a lot of space to work with, you would have to somehow carry someone on a ledge that’s a couple feet wide at most and less than a foot in others, all at an altitude that is above 8,000 meters(death zone). Also, I don’t think you understand what you are saying when you say “coordinate a turn around and she would have been a hero”. It would be impossible to coordinate 100+ people to turn around on a cliff ledge that small at 8,000+ meters up. It likely would have resulted in several more deaths, at which point people would blame her for causing more deaths while trying to be a hero. Her and her team did literally everything they could, but fact of the matter is he never should have been on the mountain in the first place. He had never climbed and 8,000 meter climb and he was doing it without oxygen and without a down-suit. The people on his team (a different team than Kristen’s) told him that he needed to go down, but he insisted because he wanted to summit.

[@hookedonfandom]

Just look at 2008 when four men were trying to bring the body of a man who died falling from the bottleneck back to camp, and one of them slipped and fell off a cliff. And that wasn’t even with the complication of being up in the bottleneck itself. That year also saw several people trying to mount rescue operations dying in the process. Rescue over 8000 meters anywhere is nearly impossible, on K2 it’s just going to multiply the death toll.

[@Monica23881]

The public and media always ignore the big issues - too many climbers on top, masses of garbage,etc. then find one innocent individual doing their best to vilify. They're not happy unless they have a fall guy. Kristin and Lama Sherpa had the same eyes - must have been a soul connection.

[@Mila_Brearey]

Very thoughtful and informative interview. We will never know if Hassan insisted on climbing ... however, in view of his lack of less-than adequate equipment, not to mention his improper harness position, I feel quite confident in stating that his EMPLOYER placed profit over Hassan's wellbeing and, ultimately his life - which also could have resulted in the loss of life of any rescuers ... especially in the Bottleneck of K2. Hypothermia, exhaustion & HAMS.

[@EverestMystery]

Thanks for your thoughts....and for watching. I agree with you

[@cypriano8763]

you take your life into your own hands when you go out there. its no ones responsability to take care of you if something goes wrong. if they can great but not if it means everyone dies.

[@bobjohnson973]

That part when she said that he was hanging off the edge with no down suit or oxygen and his harness looked like it might not have been on properly and the rope was tangled around him, OMG, thats a nightmare. And the conditions were real slippery, its pretty easy to see what happened and he was probably half delirious when it happened cause he was probably half frozen and wasnt using oxygen, i mean, come on, thats ridiculous that he was there, even a strong climber cant go without a suit and without oxygen, they are all lucky that more people didn't die because if i understood correctly he took the fixed line with him, so there they are in the dark trying to fix line or whatever just so they dont fall off and more people are coming so you gotta decide in that moment whether to try to go down and cause a jam or go up and out of the way. From what i understood, the people behind them either turned around or went around somehow but that is a nightmare scenario and you cant play monday morning quarterback on that one, i think you gotta access whats possible and if you can help someone and make a decision just like a lifeguard, which is something i do know about and the first rule is to never compromise your own safety. Ill never forget in training one day the lifeguard instructor put us in the locker room and called us out one by one and said save that guy drowning in the pool and a bunch of us dove in the pool and tried to save the person, at the end the instructor said " watch this " and took a pole from the side of the pool and pulled the guy in without getting in the pool and he said that you try every option before you put yourself in a risky situation and so if someone makes that call for their own safety, especially in this situation on the mountain, its tragic but completely understandable and should be respected. You gotta know your limits and its ok to side on the side of caution and protect yourself. Lifeguards make those calls too when the risk is too high, part of extreme activities i guess

[@BoboEverest]

Its very hard and impossible to save someone's life out there. Doing so you put others lives at risk. Dren Mandic unclipped to pass Cecilie Skog and fall down in 2008. In a process of lowering his body one more man lost his life. That's what Kristin talking and happened in 2008. Blame is on people who send poor man without down suit and O2 up there.

[@cindypereira5194]

I feel people who endeavor to do high altitude climbing know the risks and understand it’s self rescue or no rescue. The average person has no clue the depth of fatigue from high altitude. Choices have to be made and sometime they’re hard.

[@toshiyaar7885]

Even tho I'm no mountaineer, it was clear to me that there were so many dangerous variables, given the awkward position Hassan had landed, that would have made it impossible for rescue.

[@EverestMystery]

I believe you are correct, thanks for watching

[@sergejmaher144]

Good video !!

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you! I appreciate that you took the time to watch

[@sergejmaher144]

@@EverestMystery very interesting topic, i couldnt believe how people piled on kristin

[@georgemartin1498]

Very good, thank you! I know that people pursue such goals on an entirely individual basis and I am a regular practioner. But, ultimately, IMO, 1. if you don’t “know “ and are prepared to do it on your own (in the absence of partner or Sherpa support) you shouldn’t attempt and 2: you have to accept the consequences. Now going back to 1.: People do these things for reasons beyond the athletic, of personal/emotional connection which is to be human and admirable, but for safety/survival reasons please read 1.

[@aliceinoregonland3942]

I am not a climber, and this is just my opinion! It may seem harsh, but when you climb these extreme heights, you do so at your own risk! Climbers know they can die climbing these mountains! I do not believe anyone should be tasked with a rescue at these extreme heights, in these extreme conditions! I also do not believe a family should be able to sue because they have a loved one that did not make it down!. I do believe, however, that if a group of climbers are assigned Sherpas, I would hope the Sherpas would do what they can to help someone who is in trouble! But again, you climb at your own risk and you risk death if you take unnecessary risks or are not capable of the climb due to health reasons or inexperience!

[@brynnharris-hamm1321]

Why are ppl still criticizing mountaineers from the comfort of their couches? Haven’t we learned by now that mountaineers know they will most likely not have assistance if they get into trouble while climbing? This is a debate that’s been had over and over and most of the time the climbers all acknowledge they don’t expect help.. it’s everyone else who isn’t involved who has something to say. Climbers spend tens of thousands of dollars and risk their lives to climb these mountains. Normally, in regular life, I would always say help fellow humans above all else. But things are different up in the death zone of these mountains.. It’s a huge risk to go up.. Bad things can and will happen.. and trying to help others can mean your life is lost as well. We need to stop criticizing mountaineers. Everyone know what they are getting into when taking these risks. Period.

[@bykamalalane]

Kristin sounds amazing. But Lama Sherpa died shortly after this interview? That sucks.

[@EverestMystery]

Yes, very sad. Here is a clip of Kristin talking about Lama before he passed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5a5ZauCaa6Bm8U

[@zooperdooper4223]

I think that there is no way that he should have been up there. Who was his employer? Who actually hired this man and thought it was okay for him to not only go up into the death zone with zero climbing experience but to go with ,what sounds to me like, zero equipment AKA life support. Shouldn't they be responsible for what happened to Hassan? It really pisses me off that these cowboy companies can get away with human sacrifice for the almighty dollar and then other climbers that never evn knew he existed up to that point are villified for not saving him. RIP Hassan. Anyway great interview. Thank you for the Vid.

[@EverestMystery]

Great questions....I did two previous videos on this topic, one of which discusses sanctions against the company that hired Mr. Hassan. You might enjoy it. Here it is: "About K2: Clients Won't Save You (And They're All Clients)": kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJnJapapi5dlnJY Thanks so much for watching!

[@rylandavis2976]

He was told by all of the Sherpas and literally everyone else not to go. He did not listen. What are they supposed to do to stop him? He's an adult, you can't make him stay at base camp.

[@zooperdooper4223]

@@rylandavis2976 I get what you're saying, however the person/entity/company that paid his wages should, and could, have said "No gear, no cheer.". The company wanted the client's dollars regardless. And as to his being an adult, no experience means he'd never been there, didn't know what to expect and just wanted to feed his family. Wouldn't you go to the extreme to make sure your children had a full belly?

[@rylandavis2976]

@@zooperdooper4223 literally everyone told him not to go dude. He was getting paid to be a porter. Nobody said if you go up the mountain I will give you more money. They literally told him to stay and he did not listen. What are they supposed to do? A citizens arrest to stop him? Going up the mountain was not his job description and everyone around him told him he should not go. What else can they do?

[@zooperdooper4223]

@@rylandavis2976 Maybe don't hire him?

[@ChristianHeid7]

It's very important to remember that any personal feat is NEVER greater than a life of a human being. There are heroes - and then there are cowards. And in this case... There were hundreds of them. And to hear words like "it's funny" when talking about these things tells us everything we need to know. Morals are worth ZERO to these climbers. So let's call these people for what they are... The real shame here ofc is that because someone can not be saved... means everyone should just keep going on. Disgusting - but understandable when there climbers are trying to justify their own victory. No - If someone dies on the mountain and you still go on... it just show the mountain has won. And those that go on are pretty much worthless human beings in the first place.

[@budzab]

There is a video from a drone from Philip Flämig Servus TV, how the summiters go past him laying and still moving, its called "Die Schande am K2"

[@EverestMystery]

We use some of that footage in our interview with Willi Steindl: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpacmWSho5p2h8k

[@budzab]

@@EverestMystery Thank You, i have watched it. I suggest that You could make a video about how does not exist a "mountaineer certification license" in a similar way to diving certification license. It would solve a lot of problems, and create income for experienced certified mountaineers. I think these is where divers are way ahead

[@zuzuspetals9281]

Personal Responsibility. As soon as a person decides to do any type of extreme sport or activity, they know that they may be seriously hurt or killed. They can choose to not participate. Life is a risk. Others have to choose whether the risk to save you makes reasonable sense to them. Simple.

[@LinusWilson]

It was a deadly spot. The poor guy should not have been there. If anybody is to blame its his employer not climbers on other teams.

[@EverestMystery]

Yes, I agree. Thank you for watching

[@jennifermnorkett]

Sounds like her team did more for him than most others would have. Out if hundreds of people they at least tried! Absolutely no reason to demonize her.

[@NavigatorMother]

It sounds like Kristin did put her life at risk ironically, for hours and for more than one person. Just not the way people picture and demand that she put her life at risk, as in some improbable Disney extreme action film. Too bad for them.

[@deeplorable8988]

No, people don't want that, they just didn't want her celebrating and partying without a word about the man. A dead man.

[@EverestMystery]

She didn't party and celebrate. One must listen to the interview before assuming what they hear in other reports is true.

[@deeplorable8988]

@@EverestMystery There's video evidence of at least some of her celebrations. When she reached the summit they filmed themselves talking about their achievements. Never one word from her about the dying man lying down the mountain. Never a word in her celebration below. You might think this is normal, I don't.

[@paxundpeace9970]

​@@deeplorable8988This is not something you talk about maybe they did on the ascent. What they do back at base camp doesn't mater either.

[@oyajiblues]

calls me heartless, but we are all our own keepers. If you decide to climb everest it is you and only you to blame if you die. Additionally, although I might have the conscience to stop and try and help. However, you declined to attempt this and I don’t feel anyone else is responsible to “save you”. If someone cant go on and climber step over them I see nothing wrong with that. If some do want to stop and help someone in death zone that decision may cost them their lives. I think i would clear before climbing to those I am with that i am not a hero or a savior, I hold each climber to their fate. If people who have no business attempting the climb and they fail and die. Well, end of story. I would accept without judgement if I was left.

[@christophercantrell2821]

Maybe those judging her should find some empathy by climbing 14 8,000 meter peaks in this woman’s snow boots.

[@johnbennett8087]

Quite tragical

[@lifesahobby]

Well done

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you! Always good to hear from you @lifesahobby and thanks for your support

[@lifesahobby]

@@EverestMystery I am looking forward to most .. woman landing on the moon . They are ready now . Just watching this interview and listening to the technical aspects of the climbing says so much for how far women have come in the past 40 years . I personally cannot wait for them to step foot on the moon . I hope they handle it with the same gusto as this lady . I know they will , setbacks and all and safely

[@user-mr5tl4fg7d]

The shitstorm going down on Kristin Harila shows examplary how men keep the hall of fame reserved for themselves.

[@EverestMystery]

In my yet to be released segment of my conversation with Kristin we talk about just that. Thank you for watching

[@The-Wa.Wa-Girls]

💯

[@spannymakronkeep8673]

100 percent

[@humushumus2219]

Complete nonsense. Although this insident may not be as described by some; Kristin stepping over dying people. Maybe she did nothing wrong. Getting sponsorship for a project like this for a woman is a far-FAR lower hanging fruit then what it would be for a equally competent man. Also this record is largely a logistical achievement relying massively on paperwork and politics. I could not have done it. Like I said given the circumstanses, neither could a man equally competent as Harila. Time to start living in the real world.

[@digitaurus]

I think people heap scorn on individual climbers like Kristin Harila not because she did anything worse than 90+ other climbers, she didn't, but because these "speed" records create all the wrong incentives. Expressing strong social disapproval of something that the person expects praise for is a way to signal to others who might be wishing to do their own speed run that very many people do not think it's admirable at all. Speaking personally, I have no problem with expert climbers like Harila performing these amazing feats on the high mountains - but it doesn't mix well with having crowds of less skilled people around them. Access to the highest mountains should be restricted to the world's greatest climbers at the peak of fitness.

[@spazmonkey3815]

When it's a matter of life or death, many times the choice is your own life or death. The task of mountain climbing at these heights is so dangerous that your death is always a brief moment or decision away and the choice of living instead of dying may mean someone else has to die. When you are literally hanging by your fingertips there are no more fingertips to spare.

[@CORLEONESPORTS97]

of course thats the way, always have to blame blame blame... YOU CHOSE A DANGEROUS JOB PERIOD, AND YOU KNOW YOUR LIFE COULD BE LOST, NO ONE FORCED YOU TO DO THAT... BUT LETS MAKE SURE WE BLAME SOMEONE BECAUSE WE CANT ACCEPT THINGS HAPPEN

[@sergejmaher144]

Organisations are to blame not kristin

[@melloone611]

Kristen said it best. A tragic accident by a climber who shouldn’t been there in the 1st place.

[@EverestMystery]

Thanks for watching !

[@JoeKyser]

Its a shame that these summit climbers are assumed to be selfish because of maybe 1 or 2 examples. I am sure she would have stopped in her tracks and given up the world record if it meant saving a life. I cant see everyone being selfish as the public wants to make them seem

[@ktevans881]

💙

[@sephgeodynamics9246]

The most incredible part is to get the money to do this. Real climbers have something fascinating about them (e.g., Alex Honnold) , but luxury climbers are honestly quite boring. I just hope the Sherpas can enjoy their family for more than a few years.

[@EverestMystery]

Alex Honnold is, yes, a real climber....but lives in the 1%. He is loaded, being paid to do what he does. Many of these climbers save for years to have the money and freedom to depart for months at a time in order to go after a dream. Some borrow money, put a second mortgage on their home.

[@paxundpeace9970]

​@@EverestMysterywe have different kinds of climbers Alex is a rock climber and not a high altitude mountaineer climbing in snow and ice at 8000m altitude

[@nc5337]

Could there be some jealousy involved? It’s so sad that her incredible achievement has a pall cast on it-by both the tragedy and by the scapegoating.

[@davidrennie8197]

I suspect some of the negative comments were because of her gender

[@EverestMystery]

For sure....

[@theworldisavampire3346]

People are particularly catty when it comes to female athlete climbers. Why is that? Should she have died also? If your not familiar with the bottleneck, watch one of the documentaries. Its heinous.

[@aljanecko]

I think it’s just a tragic accident, he shouldn’t have been up there, nobody could have saved him.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you so much, really pleased that you took the time to watch!

[@aljanecko]

She is a amazing person!

[@6SpeedVert]

Isnt it normal and an accepted risk in climbing that you may not get help in the death zones? How is this anyone's fault at all?

[@srstrand01]

All that said: The the record was secured!!

[@EverestMystery]

Kristin and Lama nailed the record with almost three months to spare

[@sergejmaher144]

Hassan fell on the worst spot in the world, so sad. He was forced into it by his situation too

[@EverestMystery]

Agreed! Thank you for watching

[@johndef5075]

She should just say: you werent there. You know nothing about climbing. So stfu and stop judging me. Keyboard geniuses.....

[@MaineUSA]

No shade but is it possible if someone could walk past a dying person, could they lie about the story? IDK I wasn't there but there are stories out there.

[@averagejoegrows]

they need to hold her accountabl

[@EverestMystery]

Kristin's role on K2 that day had zero impact on the gentleman having lived or died.

[@aquariusthompson8212]

Accountable for what?

[@Leo-tf3rw]

@@EverestMysteryIt did dear Sir! She had a whole team with her, plenty of manpower AND extra oxygen bottles. The Right thing to do was abandon the vain pursuit of reaching the summit and do everything they could to bring this man down. Deep down you know that’s the right thing to do. Ask yourself what if that person was your climbing partner or even one of her Sherpa? Her record would forever be tainted as someone willing to overstep a dying man to reach her end goals.

[@user-os4vd1kw6p]

Sounds exactly like you chose to leave him and try for the summit.

[@aquariusthompson8212]

Sound like you already had your mind made up and disregarded everything she said

[@tomk3732]

When I have my meeting with public I do what Messner did - condemn in public with live meeting people like Kristin Harila - I will point out this is not classical mountaineering but sports mountaineering. What these sports mountaineer are doing is disgusting. 5:25 she is plainly lying. If she was not concerned with the summit why did she go for the summit? Also if there were supposedly so many weather windows why everyone goes on the same day ;) Also her saying 5h to the top of K2 implies mega use of oxygen. Again, for someone that does not climb her explanation may make sense, but not to me whom is a climber. For example, the BS of him not having oxygen yet being in the lead and keeping pace + people saying his oxygen mask was broken. There is no way, unless you are like Ueli Steck or similar to keep up without oxygen with people on oxygen. No way. He had two piece down suit -standard. A down suit that is a knock off costs like $200 USD. Its not a big deal! And you use it a little. If she wanted to smear the guy she should have said he had improper boots - these are harder to borrow / buy. Also yes, she would say no to her Sherpa to come without oxygen as he would have had hard time keeping her pace and there would not be a chance of him short rope pulling her up. Bunch of excuses - I have zero respect for her - but not her team. She did not tell them to save him. They were only doing what they were told.

[@aquariusthompson8212]

Comment dumb asf

[@asopopilosopo4158]

All for nothing

[@andreasandremyrvold]

When you are this high up you are on your own. If rescuing other people are impossible or staking your own life, you should save yourself. Or just not risk your own life in the first place. Darwin said it first, and many military generals and explorers died that way. Live by the sword, die by the sword. And that also goes by Kristin Harila, maybe she just got lucky.

[@EverestMystery]

Thank you for your thoughts....much appreciated!

[@spannymakronkeep8673]

Basic misogyny.

[@EverestMystery]

She was indeed put under extremely unfair scrutiny....

[@migushovakatya6048]

but she's been breathing oxygen all the way through no? this is like winning Olympics on eritropoetin, still great but this is not clean

[@stevenicholson7488]

Great content man! People do not understand that serac falls kill you instantly.

[@EverestMystery]

Even a chunk of ice the size of a football can kill you.... Hey, thank you for watching!

[@w8tingonu]

The bottom line after watching alot of your videos and others regarding these topics. The industry and the culture of mountaineering has played a huge part in accolading vain glory in a very pompous pretentious and for the sake of redundancy arrogant way. Every climb you (meaning the culture) call an expedition, every climber from the 20's to the 70's and beyond you all hero worship idolize and commemorate. Grant it to do so cost alot of money and previous experience which constitutes investment. But on some level to call yourselves teams and others in the culture friends and colleagues than far more within your culture needs to change in order to receive authentic respect during many of these tragedies. There are far more details in my thoughts than I care to write at the moment and each case needs to be drawn from individually. I don't know enough about the reporting of this particular incident so I care to be apprehensive while genuine. Beck Weathers' story and others prove that regardless of how many folk count them out and death bound, that justifications not to try in a very many cases are utter bullshit. Records are for history to relinquish not our present. A real expedition is to have purpose what is a greater purpose to help or try to save a life on the most dangerous mountain or the vain glory of submitting. In inner cities everywhere and remote locations everywhere many men and women put their lives on the line to be the difference between what is and what should not be. In call ourselves dharma Christian religious in any aspect is not to judge for God but to allow God have final say. Our job is to obey when it is dictated to us not for us to say they shouldn't have been here or would die anyway but of course there is and was and will be circumstances that will dictate such past, present and futuristically. The mountaineering community seems far too often willing to condemn who they will for the sake of their selected "elitist". To give respect to someone for accomplishing an extraordinary feat is one thing. To celebrate them for practicing their hobby is nonsense. To call their feats records at today's day in age is absurd and delusional other than to push and industry. Historical get real, in a literal sense yes- but practical - hell no. To ask for comments likes and subscriptions yet to delete censor or call opposing views -trolls. Is not genuine. Not saying that is the case. Just something I question. Ty anyone who reads. Namaste

[@bosrules1]

When someone is on the verge of dying regardless of who is in the right or wrong it should be game over. If this person wasn't qualified then he shouldn't have been there, I get that but he was, he got past all of them, no one stopped it from happening. The whole team should have turned back out of respect and a slim chance of saving him. To go forward was selfish in my opinion.

[@aquariusthompson8212]

Expecting a team of non medical people to save someone on a mountain and endanger themselves.... is selfish

[@vtwinaddicted5852]

In my opinion, when you go up there, you can not expect anyone to save you, everyone knows its a 50/50 chance of coming back, shit happens