In Stars and Time: Siffrin remembering things from their past

[@kosmius420]

i just realized that the rewinding effect isn’t siffrin looping back a bit, it’s the universe righting itself and making sif forget what he was thinking/talking about because as far as anyone should think, that island doesnt exist

[@lisatroiani6119]

fun fact: it’s the exact same effect that happens when you look at a piece of equipment that you already have

[@nightwalker9875]

It is even worse because the reason that Siffrin could remember the story at all is because they didn’t think about it. They knew the reason without thinking but when they started thinking about what they did after; the Universe stepped in.

[@PoyoPowerPlant]

It's really sad to think that maybe Siffrin doesn't have a bad memory at all, but he may very well forget everything because they make him think of home...

[@crowsenpai5625]

There’s no “maybe” that’s definitely what it is. He unconsciously connects the Vagaurdian words he learns with their translations in his language, then immediately re-forgets his version of the word and everything connected to it, including the Vaugardian Translation. “What is this thing?” “It’s a Stuffed Animal, Frin!” (Ah, that’s what it’s called. I remember I had one when I was a kid, but we called them…wait, -when I was a kid?- **The Universe rights itself* what was I talking about? What is this thing?)

[@PoyoPowerPlant]

@@crowsenpai5625 That's definitely a good example, although I'm pretty sure he only forgets those things so abruptly in certain cases relating to his home. In others he might just have a bad memory, since we only have three examples in game of him forgetting on the spot. Sometimes he just forgets words like "sharpening stone" and has to be reminded...just cuz

[@star-aether]

It's confirmed that it's both because of the country dissapearing, and because of actual normal memory problems that compound onto that! Siffrin forgets the words to things because his brain automatically tries to translate them into his own language Which! Of course! He can't remember! So his brain fills in around it! And that of course grew into normal memory problems COMPUNDED onto the lack of a home or mother language or culture:) Adrienne themself confirmed it through a qna on reddit or Tumblr I believe? All I remember is transcripts of all of the qnas are on the official in stars and time wiki

[@PoyoPowerPlant]

@@star-aether Gee, so his memory issues really did come from the country's disappearance! Practically all of them. Sad, but very neat to know!

[@vain_11]

@@crowsenpai5625 I dont think thats always the case, as that wouldnt make sense with that loop where he forgets names of his friends... like he could really not translate their names into his language

[@MillyKKitty]

Also, if you let Mirabelle comb your hair a lot. At least 3-4 times, Siffrin starts to wonder why he was so good at brushing difficult hair like Mirabelle's.

[@spidey5558]

It's horrifying to think that for seemingly no reason, an entire continent just... disappeared one day. And no one remembers it even _existing._

[@sillypinkmoth]

it's completely possible that it still exists but everyone outside can't remember it's existence

[@spencerhaveman4117]

@@sillypinkmoth So a Hollownest situation?

[@MillyKKitty]

It is pretty horrifying to think about. What we know for sure is that someone wished for it, which is why you see a star appear and break when Siffrin and King try to remember their home. My up and running theory as to why someone would wish for the disappearance of an entire country would probably have to do with hate for outsiders. Odile did mention stuff about Craft Wars and failed experiments in another context, which could explain what happened? There was a war somewhere, the citizens wanted to keep their country safe, someone felt that outsiders were a threat and their countrymen who lived among them were traitors, thus they wished to gatekeep the entire country from outsiders. But since the Universe kind of sucks at granting wishes, it went overboard.

[@star-aether]

​@@sillypinkmoth:) maybe try interacting with the back railing of the head housemaiden's patio (I forget where exactly brings up some interesting dialogue honestly my bad)

[@milo_south3670]

I remember that InsertDisk5 didn’t give much info on the QnA’s, but she did say that it was someone’s own wish that caused this pain to happen.

[@Totallysleepingrn]

I never got any of the malanga fritters stuff because the second time I chose them I realized if I kept doing it siffrin would lose his favorite food My urge to know lore combatted by my love for the main character

[@stars4809]

Meanwhile I missed out on Memory of Safe Rooms because I kept choosing the fritters in the hopes I wouldn't make Bonnie sad Similar means to different but equal ends aha

[@Totallysleepingrn]

@@stars4809 truly the two sides of the spectrum

[@callhimtim3188]

I chose malanga fritters every time because the first time I chose something else, it made Bonnie sad, and I promptly vowed to never do that again.

[@patata_en_bicicleta]

Its so sad that the universe itself doesn't like siffrin remembering their past

[@evilness3404]

I found the hidden room during act 2 and spent the entire rest of the game checking that book every time i was on that floor because I wanted to see if Siffrin would remember more. Nice to see that scene again.

[@metal3978]

"journal with a star" "someone who understands you so well, because they ARE you" >:[

[@c1overr_143]

poor loop is heartbroken

[@kristol883]

OMG THANK YOU!!! I found this another video with this conversation, and I was soo frustated because I spend around 100 hours in this game and never found this exact room. After that I made a run through the entire House in ACT 2, checked what i thought every torch and hair to see if there a secret door, and I still somehow missed it??? It is such a relief to finally know where it is, God bless you🙏

[@funnylittlecreature]

sifloopers stay winning

[@korikoran]

@2:31 like LOOP, hmm?

[@milic5749]

Do you have to have done something special beforehand to get the scene about running away from home? I went to that room tons of times but unless my memory is as bad as Siffrin's I swear I never got his story about running away in a boat. I always get Bonnie talking about their sister running away and implying it was because their parents were... not the best.

[@sillyseel]

This scene is exclusive to Act 2. From Act 3 onwards, only Bonnie talks

[@milic5749]

@@sillyseel Ohh, that would explain it. Thanks for letting me know my memory didn't fail me.