IN THE BEGINNING... | Worship Drummer Reacts to "Eden" by Ren | Artistic Vision & Biblical Accuracy

By far, one of the most requested videos from my new RENegade friends. This one was a real thinker. Looking forward to the conversation!
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[@teckreactions]

Hello, everyone! I'm truly grateful for the tremendous feedback on this video. The lively discussions have been enriching. If this is your first time viewing, please take a moment to check out the Community tab before adding your comments. After filming this, my interactions with this community have led to some enlightening insights. While my faith remains steadfast, my understanding of Ren's narrative has evolved. I recommend reading the two posts regarding EDEN in the Community section before sharing your thoughts. Thank you!

[@TheBorderRyker]

Wow. Thank you for the most interesting reaction to Eden I’ve seen so far. Interesting, intelligent and enlightening. I have happily subscribed and look forward to many more interesting conversations. We are Renegades. We are all different. Different nationalities, different customs, different generations, different beliefs but we are all on the same journey through an increasingly wicked world. We are all learning that we can disagree without malice. We can debate from a place of love. We can be better. We can stop being pushed around by a hyper-rich minority and we can work together to make a fair and just society. To find our way again. G. #Renegade #RenMakesMusic ✊🏼🐷❤️‍🔥

[@phaedralewis285]

I very much like your reactions. This was the end of a game that Ren set up that every day dove into one of the Seven Sins. Where possibly thousands of people from all over worked together as this magical collaboration and ending with Greed, had a twist and then this played, just moments prior to the release of Money Game 3. It was such a pleasure to be a part of. It never entered my mind to question whether Ren had the story 100% accurate to my beliefs but to just be amazed that this musician would bring so many wonderful values to the forefront in a time when we desperately need it. On the last day of the Money "Game" Ren changed the rules, he said it was no longer a collective, it was each man for himself for a huge prize. We were no longer suppose to share information and help each other and when we thought we had the answer we would email it and the winner would be notified. In this he spoke of how we had accomplished so much in the attempt to win money and I was never more proud of the fact that I had sent my email in at the beginning of the day saying, I would not be entering the final day for the prize money because the biggest gift I had received already by working with the amazing people I had met through Ren. That the money meant nothing compared to the experience and then spent the day once again helping brainstorm and try to find answers with my friends. When the twist in the game came that the last lesson was about greed, it felt like a test that I passed and it brought me so much joy to know this about myself. Sorry, sometimes the amazing journey my life has taken since being inspired by Ren just feels like it needs sharing.

[@teckreactions]

I appreciate you sharing. It’s beautiful.

[@celinel9750]

I so agree with you, I played (as much as my knowledge could) but watch and learned so much, I was so excited buy watchiing all of us working togueter and the day that some one said that they would let the lady win so she can get her pet to the vet I broke in tears, overwelmed by so much of humanity, Ren was bringning the best out of us to show us what we can do. He is not telling what we can do and should do, he is reveling us to us. I love sociology and I love Ren 🙂

[@dropbarracuda]

There were a number of us, myself included, that vowed from the jump that if we won anything, we'd donate the entire amount to either a charity or the RNLI for Joe in Ren's name. If I remember correctly, at least one of the winners actually did just that. We all understood that far beyond the game or the immediate message was the wonderful community experience that we all grew and participated in. ❤

[@debthecpn]

It was a life changing experience for me. For 2 weeks working with strangers many of whom are still friends. Bringing us to a wonderful community. Filling our lives with amazing music. I feel that Ren teaches. Teaches over beats 😝 if you know, you know.

[@dropbarracuda]

@@debthecpn ...to all those that seek. 👍🏻

[@user-du7pb3do4g]

Great reaction! I just scrolled through the comments to see if I could find any hate. I didn’t see any. We Renagades are pretty open minded, and we are many. We represent all faiths and even the lack of faith. We tend to respect anything that isn’t destructive. The more I’ve gotten to know rens fans, the more I believe in them. Maybe I’m being a bit odd here, but I’m so proud to be part of that community. I’m sorry for gushing about them on your channel, but, we focus so much on Rens music, struggles, and message, that we don’t stop enough to say, “what an absolutely amazing and beautiful group of people.” I love all of you.

[@teckreactions]

The RENegade community has been incredible. Welcoming with open arms to someone new to REN’s experiences and the difficult questions we try to answer together. There are a couple turds in the comments, but I’m assuming they’re not part of the community. Just outliers looking to stir the pot. Thanks for being here!

[@momstin58]

You’re not being odd at all. It’s a pretty amazing group of loving, caring,supportive people and I’m proud to be a part of it too 🤗💜

[@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl]

In perspective of secular humanism and how people should have the freedom to believe anything they want and express themselves, but not to preach and agitate, we could live together peacefully and respect each other. That's the essence of how our society, we, should live of. We don't have to accept (in the sense "Okay, you're right.") every worldview and we don't have to love everyone (what's neither possible nor suitable), but to respect.

[@teckreactions]

@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl "If humanism were right in declaring that man is born to be happy, he would not be born to die. Since his body is doomed to die, his task on earth evidently must be of a more spiritual nature.” -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

[@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl]

@@teckreactions Well, I disagree with him. "Spiruality" is a choice, not a must to be happy and dying is part of life anyways. And why you shift the goalpost anyway? I talked about freedoms and happiness defines every person for himself. By the way, arguments by authorities don't count as facts or even evidence. When I talk about acceptance and respect, you come up "Oh, you have to have spirituality in your life", because this and that. Who's the intolerant here, me or you? You're the one who wants a world where everyone is like You. No thanks! I want a world where everyone is free to believe what ever he wants without indoctrination, doing no harm to others and respect others. I want to know as much right things and less wrong things as I can. How about you? Spiritualism is grounded in the supernatural, what has no feet in reality nor is there evidence for it. That's why I reject those things entirely. Believe what you want and be happy with it, but don't preach it to others. Bye.

[@Mhantrax]

I love this piece because I get to see who, watching it, is willing to step way back and view a whole instead of getting mired in the weeds. Thank you for your reaction!

[@teckreactions]

Thank you so much!

[@andreakinuthia4197]

It's good to hear different reactions and different perspectives. Like all art, it will evoke a different response in each listener. Ren succeeds in throwing up a mirror to beliefs, attitudes and issues in the world.

[@teckreactions]

I agree.

[@swyts]

Great commentary. As another agnostic, I would never fault you for your more literal interpretation of his interpretation. From my "outside" perspective, I would agree with his interpretation of God being lonely because there is no other god... only one from the Christian perspective. Regardless, yes, the back half of this was phenomenal, regardless of what you think of the front end. I put outside in quotes because I grew up Methodist, switched to Baptist when my parents divorced, and I graduated from a Presbyterian high school. I've studied other religions here and there. This is a quote I'll get wrong which I heard from Ren in an interview... I assume he's more well read than I am in likely more religions... "I'm not opposed to believing in God, but I do have quite a few questions to ask." I'm sure he said it better.

[@teckreactions]

I have been following Jesus for 15 years and I still have questions 😊 Thanks for being here, my friend.

[@Sassyglbeauty]

As someone who is a Christian (my first 9 years as a Methodist and 5- 12th grade Baptist) I see your comment and I’m reminded of being asked to have the faith the size of a “mustard seed”. That’s all I’ll say.

[@teckreactions]

@@Sassyglbeauty Thanks for the comment. I'm not sure I'm picking up on what you meant. Can you clarify for me?

[@ladonnahafen9938]

Well done breaking this down in regards to theology. I am a Christian as well and took part in the Money Game this was attached to. The Money Game was the best promotion I have ever seen for music or anything else for that matter. It was truly an incredible and fun way to connect fans. Ren was having so much fun preparing the games, that he kept forgetting to promote his album 😂. Like you, I disagreed with the interpretation of the story of Eden, but his end point was spot on. I hope you watch an interview with Ren at some point (even if on your own time) because you will see the autheniticity, empathy, and humor that we love in Ren's music is just who he is. And the world craves authentic people, which you seem to be as well. Much love from Montana

[@teckreactions]

Thank you! I watched his 1 million subscribers video. Very moving.

[@belspeth]

Thank you so much on your views and your own interpretation on this one. I am agnostic but I'm open to all thoughts and opinions and appreciated yours.

[@teckreactions]

I appreciate you being here 💙

[@rachelmanley517]

ive seen this many times and watching your reaction once the story changes gave me chills. thank you for this ♡

[@teckreactions]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mattcavanagh5701]

Raised catholic but am now a full on atheist. Still enjoyed your reaction. Great stuff!

[@teckreactions]

Thanks for being here, my friend 💙

[@OzzieMozzie777]

I will remember you in my prayers, that you would return to His church. God loves you

[@teckreactions]

@@OzzieMozzie777……. What?

[@grysqrl]

Thanks for the great reaction. I appreciated your insights on his interpretation as well as the fact that you didn't let your differences bog you down when the second half came around. Too often people stop listening as soon as they hear a thing that they don't agree with. Thank you for your open mind and honest reaction. Looking forward to the next one.

[@teckreactions]

Thank you, friend. So glad you're here with us!

[@Phazetic99]

Just finished your video. What a great analysis. I am personally not a believer, but I could listen (and if we were in the same room converse back) about this and a lot more. Very respectful and knowledgeable, and I applaud your take on this. This piece of work is not one of my favorites in the sense that its going on my spotify playlist, but this reaction is one of my all time favorite. Just wanted to say "good job" to you, sir

[@teckreactions]

Oh wow. Thank you for those kind words. I appreciate you.

[@Danielle-ed9kt]

I was really interested in what you thought thank you so much for sharing your thoughts ❤❤❤ Plus you said before you wanted to know where ren stood on his beliefs so this gives you a great idea of where he stands. It’s all about respecting each others beliefs

[@teckreactions]

Absolutely.

[@damianjoseph3837]

Thank you for your openness to Ren's interptetation and brining your learned interpretations to the reaction. Ren has religious themes in his work but by admission is agnostic like myself. We share an intellectual fascination with religion but we do not have the faith, as yet. It is pleasant to watch your reaction, you have a kind soul and you show a great deal of empathy. It is a messed up world we are living in. I think Ren used the story of eden for the starting point to show how we have lost our way or been led astray by humans.

[@teckreactions]

That’s a fair statement. I’ve been racking my brain about why he chose this story. Perhaps it’s because it’s the epitome of greed and pride. To me, it also means, whether consciously or unconsciously, he finds truth somewhere in the Scriptures.

[@MikeyG830]

Its always rough to watch a relgious person watch the first 1/2 of this. I never knew how fragile peoples faith was. Its an opinion people, that's all what religion is, an interpretation. Everyone will have their own opinion. I don't think Ren is wrong, maybe with your particular interpretation he is, but who are we to judge. Its also an art piece, not to be taken as a sunday school lesson. Peace

[@teckreactions]

I understand your point. Firstly, I don't consider myself "religious" in the traditional sense. I see religion more as a human-created framework aimed at reaching God through our efforts. However, the Bible conveys that God reached out to us by giving us Jesus Christ, eliminating the need for us to earn our salvation. This perspective suggests that religion might obstruct the reception of this unearned gift. Regarding the "art piece," it represents the artist's take on a narrative that seems quite straightforward. My extensive focus on theological aspects was solely to address the clarity of the story being interpreted.

[@nubien9]

Yep! Everyone's right, for them. It's a multiverse. Who doesn't think their thinking is the right way 😎❤️💛💚🖤✊🏿🇯🇲🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@johnpegues5701]

Mikey everyone has to judge what they believe to be true. Ren's description of the nature of God rejects 2000+ years of Christian views on the nature of God and 5784 years of Jewish analysis of what the Hebrew words that were translated into English mean. I know that Ren at age 17 took a position against evil (Hi Ren) and that he had some form of Anglican theology growing up. Of course he is welcome to have a different view, but he selected Eden as the title and setting...implying some truth from that story. While the first half is flawed the second half is the usual brilliant analysis of the nature of man and our problem in the current state. Love Ren, love all Renegades, and love this review.

[@robingayle68]

​@@teckreactionsI also want to point out that Ren is from the UK and their church is state based (Anglican Church) so it might be taught differently than the Christian church in the US is taught.

[@MikeyG830]

@@johnpegues5701 Dont forget Islam. All of the Abrahamic religions had an Eden story. We will have to agree to disagree. I'm agnostic and not tied to what a book tells me and not an expert on what is in these books. However as someone who isn't fearful of thinking outside the box that we draw ourselves into, I thought Ren's interpretation has merit.

[@annebiebrich9155]

I love this reaction! I am a Christian and I learned some things I was not aware of and I thank you for this ! I am also a huge Ren fan but I am disturbed by some things he says! I love Ren for his loving, caring, empathetic ways ! He wants nothing more than to share love and good! Love your channel ! You are one of my very favorite reactors, and people😊 ! ❤ God bless !

[@teckreactions]

Oh wow. Thanks! I’m honored you’re here.

[@johneicher7914]

I just had to comment. As a Christian and a Ren fan, I agree some of things he says I am uncomfortable with but I think we are all getting to see Ren's human struggle in real time. Ren is just a brighter light than most. His dark is darker and his light is brighter. He is a triple threat, gifted way beyond most people, his life experiences have made him driven beyond most people and he has faced his own end and I think he lives each day as a gift. He makes me want to do better and be better.

[@teckreactions]

@@johneicher7914 That's an awesome perspective. I'm glad Ren is giving us the gift of glimpsing into his struggles to help us be better.

[@jrp1226]

Great reaction. Love your breakdown of what REN was saying.. Looking forward to more reactions from you.

[@teckreactions]

Thank you! Will do!

[@jjkehrley]

I just finished the video. Much love and respect to you brother.

[@teckreactions]

Much appreciated

[@ianrose56]

That was a great reaction. You got the angle in the end when Ren revealed his agnostic. That's his interpretation of the story. Again, great job. I enjoyed that one. Keep it up.!!! There's sooooo many layers, too, Ren.!! ❤❤🇬🇧🇫🇴🇬🇧🇫🇴🇬🇧👍👍😁

[@teckreactions]

Thanks!

[@rainsontheforth]

I thank you Sir amazing reaction yes the first part it was only right you set the story straight but the second part of the video give me goose bumps watching your reaction respect to you and yours stay safe awaiting more reactions from you of ren take care much love from the U.K.

[@teckreactions]

Thank you! Looking forward to more.

[@KristenKing-ix7mn]

Another great reaction! I love how you knew going in you might spark a debate, but didn’t turn the comments off. If everyone was as open, maybe we could start moving our country in a positive direction.

[@teckreactions]

I agree. It is sad to see some folks already being turds in the comments.

[@AndrewJonesMcGuire]

This! So much this. The number of times recently I have said to people, I don't know enough from either side of the trans issues to have an opinion, but from my vantage point sitting on the fence, the one thing I can see clearly, is that unless people in both sides stop screaming at each other, I can't see how it will be resolved, and for people like me, as a gay man I feel like I should have an opinion, I feel like I should be supportive - but both sides just seem so toxic - that I don't want to willingly stick my toe in that water. I picked trans issues here as a current example, but it applies across the board. We have cancel culture rather than sitting down and discussing things. People now struggle to accept when other people that they know hold different political (or even ideological) viewpoints to them. Perhaps it's my autism, I'm not sure - but I don't understand the logic - "you think differently to me, therefore we can no longer be friends" - I mean what? Does no one think that sounds a bit.... Petty?

[@Dawn-rh8el]

I'm really enjoying your Ren reactions! I appreaciate your knowledge, analysis and explanation of your point of view. Subbing for more. Thank you!

[@teckreactions]

Welcome aboard!

[@EveryCloud9999]

We should all take lessons to better ourselves whatever our beliefs. Great reaction! All best!

[@teckreactions]

Yes! Thank you!

[@olaszwoch1325]

Loneliness is impossible to God- buahaahahahaa you made me laugh , thanks

[@teckreactions]

✌🏻

[@danic9304]

Excellent reaction. As an avowed atheist I find your take interesting.

[@teckreactions]

Thank you, my friend. I'm so glad you're here.

[@EarthyBlendPOV]

I enjoyed your breakdown of this. Looking forward to the Money Game series.

[@teckreactions]

Totally on the list.

[@dropbarracuda]

🙏TLDR: I apologize up front for the essay... essentially I argue below that there is room for multiple scenarios, where Ren could be right, you could be right, or even both. I appreciate your commentary and perspective on this, and the Renegades are typically very open to honestly speaking your mind. I don't claim to be a Biblical scholar, however I grew up Catholic in the Church, attended Sunday school through my Confirmation, so I do have some understanding of the subject. So if I may offer up a few counterpoints and a theory, hopefully to spark conversation, Regarding two of your points, that: 1) God cannot lie 2) God did not condemn Adam and Eve to death (in the context of death as an immediate punishment vs an eventual consequence) I'll address #2 first, as there are contradictions in the Text that might appear to lead to a contradiction of #1 (but I have a theory on how to resolve this). MOST (5 out of 7 listed below) of the most-read versions of the Bible specifically state that Adam and Eve would die *on the day* that they eat of the forbidden fruit. This includes the King James Bible, which is believed to be the most accurate to the original source, and has been the most popular English-language version for the past 400+ years. In fact, going all the way back to the oldest texts on the subject, the Dead Sea Scrolls [~300 BCE-20 CE], although they do not contain the full account of what we know of as the Book of Genesis, what remains in the fragments does indeed include the relevant section, and does specify imminent death *on the day* that the fruit is eaten. Even though the scrolls existed outside of time and influence, and there are some occasional differences in details with official accounts of events elsewhere in the Masoretic Text (the authoritative source for the 24 Books of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh)), the accounts of this specific passage about the consequences of eating the forbidden fruit are in alignment. This suggests that point #1 could be incorrect, because Adam and Eve did not in fact die that day, but were banished from the Garden with the burden of their newfound knowledge. **Personal Speculations** 1) I believe the concept of "lies" arguably requires the event/subject of the "lie" to be in the past. Even misleading statements require a previous determination of the outcome of events to come. This leads to a couple of possibilities, either God was speculating and was wrong -OR- if God is believed to be infallible, perhaps God *changed His mind*, something He has been recorded as doing many, many times over in the Old Testament. 2) What if "death" didn't refer to mortality in this context, but instead rerferred to something like "spiritual death", "dead in God's eyes" (i.e. separation from God), or even their banishment itself**. In any of these scenarios God hasn't lied and wasn't wrong in any of the Biblical versions below. But what about human mortality? What if Adam and Eve were *created* mortal? Up until the eating of the forbidden fruit, the subject of their actual mortality is never discussed, and at no point in the Bible does it ever say they are actually "immortal". Remember that to that point, Adam and Eve had no concept of human mortality, they'd never experienced punishment, and they'd never experienced deceit. ** Depending on your beliefs, there may be precedence for this interpretation of "death" (meaning banishment) in the stories of Lucifer's banishment from Heaven as well as Lilith's banishment from the Garden, Adam's supposed first wife. As witten in Genesis 2:16-17, they all contain text concerning the rest of the Garden, similar to: [2:16] And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat (KJV) , then: 1) King James Version (KJV) [1611] [2:17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for *in the day* that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. 2) New International Version (NIV) [1885] [2:17] but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.” 3) English Standard Version (ESV) [2001] [2:17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for *in the day* that you eat of it you shall surely die.” 4) New King James Version (NKJV) [1982] [2:17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for *in the day* that you eat of it you shall surely die.” 5) Amplified Bible (AMP) [1965] [2:17] but [only] from the tree of the knowledge (recognition) of good and evil you shall not eat, otherwise *on the day* that you eat from it, you shall most certainly [a]die [because of your disobedience].” 5) The American Standard Version (ASV) [1901] [2:17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for *in the day* that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. 6) New Living Translation (NLT) [1996] [2:17] except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you eat its fruit, you are sure to die.” 7) Christian Standard Bible (CSB) [2017] [2:17] but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for *on the day* you eat from it, you will certainly die.”

[@teckreactions]

It is possible it could be referring to a spiritual death since sin is the very thing was introduced. And sin is what separates us from right relationship with God, a spiritual death. You’ve caused me to ponder something new. Thank you for that 🙏🏻

[@kevinmundis1281]

Glad to hear your perspective on the video. Appreciate your insights. Go Steelers!!

[@teckreactions]

Go Steelers!

[@baklivak]

Love the video ! Im still here still enjoying your input

[@teckreactions]

I appreciate that!

[@Smuff1981]

New Sub from a big Ren fan from the UK. First watched your Hi Ren reaction and the title said something about you losing some people after this. I would inagine its been the opposite. Great reactions,looking forward to more Ren😊

[@teckreactions]

Thanks for the sub!

[@andreakinuthia4197]

I'm glad you got on to this x

[@teckreactions]

Thanks!

[@SandraP3796]

Glad to hear your perspective of this video. I was brought up a strict Catholic so I know the Bible version of above. I’m a lapsed Catholic now but I’m still a Christian.

[@teckreactions]

God bless you.

[@Draktand01]

The fact that he’s an agnostic means we can take the inconcistencies with biblical canon as a plot device to take us towards his actual point, rather than the ultimate truth itself. Ultimately, Ren isn’t a biblical scholar, so we can’t really expect him to get everything right. And in the end, it is up to us as individuals to uncover the truth where falsehoods have consequences we’re unwilling to face. If we let the inaccuracies of the story blind us to its actual message, resulting in us arguing too much about his biblical interpretation, we’re basically forcing the responsibility to understand the bible unto Ren, abandoning our own responsibility to learn. This is why I love your video. Contesting false claims with your own knowledge, and then going on to listen to what the other person is saying, instead of what you want to believe they’re saying. That’s how to use your free speech to get our human hivemind closer to more accurate knowledge, and ultimately, the truth.

[@teckreactions]

Thanks for watching! I was definitely MORE interested in the “now what” part of his video.

[@matthewschreiber2421]

Thank you for reacting BTW.

[@teckreactions]

No problem 😊

[@richgravy4171]

subbing, excited to see you do Seven Sins and Wicked Ways, [and the rest of Rens bangers too]

[@teckreactions]

Thanks!

[@katherineolmstead8137]

Yes, it doesn't matter how we got here. It matters what we do...because we DO KNOW right from wrong. I have a little trouble myself with the first part. i agree wholeheartedly with the 2nd part.

[@teckreactions]

We can all do better. Thanks for watching!

[@pwornell880]

Thanks dude thought you would get it ❤

[@teckreactions]

Thanks!

[@justinayers9983]

I respect you and welcome you.

[@teckreactions]

Appreciate you

[@debrashrider4062]

Very well done reaction. Thank you.

[@teckreactions]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@nobodyjustbrad2750]

I look forward to the Money Game series, bro ❤

[@teckreactions]

Me too!

[@anjaboltin3299]

Thank you! ❤

[@teckreactions]

Pleasure!

[@dmj4966]

Interesting clarifications, appreciate the nuance. As an acknowledged agnostic I would only suggest that "perhaps," "could assume", and "maybe" is not a statement of fact, just interpretation, so "not true" may be more accurately called "not a traditional interpretation," which is a fair assessment but not necessarily "not true" or "not correct." "One dimensional" is a bit strong for me, as the typical reading of biblical verses are often limited by the absolute assumptions that all philosophical arguments, including religious philosophy , are based on. Again, tho, respect your openness and for the understanding of issues I have to re consider based on your explanations.

[@teckreactions]

That’s fair. Language use is important. Those words tell me that Ren is still open to something bigger than himself that he cannot yet identify. Thanks for being here, my friend.

[@mcguigance]

Imagine if we all believed in us ..humanity ❤

[@teckreactions]

Imagine.

[@Phazetic99]

Wow, that tritone knowledge you dropped was very interesting. You are a very cool reactor. Most reactors just give their reaction. Some have some music knowledge, but you dropping amazing facts that blow me away. Thank you. I do have a question. I tell my friends that listening to Ren is kind of a litmus test for intellectualism. If you can see that there is something much smarter going on with the music and the creativity than you recognize Ren. Do you think I'm out to lunch on this? Do you recommend other artists that can do this?

[@teckreactions]

I wouldn’t make a person (even Ren) a litmus test for intelligence. Intelligence is multifaceted and can be expressed in a variety of ways. It’s fair for music to serve as litmus test for emotional intelligence, but I would not use it for overall grading. Hope that helps!

[@scottrobertson2426]

Cant wait for the money game series. Keep it going brother

[@teckreactions]

You and me both!

[@mothermaclean]

There is 3 part to money game

[@robingayle68]

Great reaction ❤

[@teckreactions]

Thank you!! 😁

[@robingayle68]

I played Ren's money Game. It was set up as an online riddle game in the run up to the release of his song Money Game pt 3. It was complex and had puzzles that were way out of my wheelhouse but the rules of the game were to work together to find the answers until the final riddle which was then every man for himself. And so we did work together (I know nothing about computer coding but the people who did bouyed the ones that didn't) and my shortcomings were less meaningful because as a team I was raised up by the other players. Ren's Money Game lasted 7 days and each day the riddle was based on one of the 7 deadly sins. The first to answer the riddle won £1000 each day. The final riddle was every man for himself as I mentioned and the winner of that day was sent on a scavenger hunt that we all could watch as a live stream. It was an amazing game and "Eden" was released right after the scavenger hunt live stream ended ❤

[@daniellehart519]

Loved your thoughts ❤❤❤ ren has a song called patience and it’s beautiful there’s a line in it “although you test me my God I stand so proudly can’t you see” and it’s just lovely ❤❤❤❤

[@teckreactions]

Wow

[@ub-relax6800]

A simple "thank you" from me to you. ❤

[@teckreactions]

You're welcome 😊

[@teriortiz5360]

Appreciate your reaction. Your respect for Ren is appreciated. "You're all welcome here. I just hope I'm welcome where you are." "Atheists, agnostics and believers can all work together to make the world a better place." Keep the conversation going :)

[@teckreactions]

I appreciate that

[@lulumeto]

I wish all Christians were like you. It is obvious that both you and Ren have spent a lot of time really studying and thinking about the Bible. Much more time than I have and I appreciate learning and thinking about both your interpretations. Fabulous reaction ❤❤

[@teckreactions]

I appreciate that.

[@sanfordgfogg]

I feel that Ren grew up with a religious upbringing, yet through his experiences of disease wracking through his body and mind has led him to self introspection about his personal faith. It is expressed in his art, and no particular song explains the whole journey. A listen and thinking about a large part of his catalog gives snippets of his faith, including the human experience as it relates to God. Ren is also using his Free Will to highlight that which much of society chooses to ignore in various ways. Ren often shares observations about humanity. Humanity's challenge is to overcome Monkey Brained Tribalism.

[@teckreactions]

I love that breakdown.

[@ManneyM]

Great reaction, and one of very few religious based reactions I have watched through,... most reactors have tended to get on there high horse and talk to viewers as if THEY (the reactor) were the all knowing... we are all on this spec of dust, in this incredible universe.. just trying to figure s#@t out.. now I'm rambling 😂 much peace and love ❤️ ps I was waiting for 27:20, as could see you had spent the previous 20 mins a almost coming to the same conclusion... WE must do better 👍😉😘

[@teckreactions]

Thanks for watching, friend!

[@analisasmith7927]

Yes this was the ONLY religious based reaction that I have got through without feeling frustrated and patronised. To the extent I read comments first as I regretted giving some others even views!! (Petty of me I know!!)

[@teckreactions]

@@analisasmith7927 I appreciate the kind words. There is a lot of great debate in the comments and, of course, a few turds. There will always be some.

[@0verloADHD]

I was raised by a father who was agnostic and a mother who had been raised Jewish, but she wanted us to decide for ourselves what we believed. So, she sent us to a COE school as ahe felt they embraced and would teach us about all religions. I have also attended Buddhist classes and my daughter went to a Catholic school. Rather than make a choice, I now state my religion as 'of the heart' as I have faith but it stems from many. I follow a path of good intentions, and take responsibility if i make mistakes. Whatever, and whoever the 'creator' may be, I believe it is inside all of us. We are all intrinsically linked and part of a universal tapestry. ❤

[@teckreactions]

I agree and I respect your views. Personally, my fleshly heart and emotions cannot be trusted as they’re always wanting to do things out of selfish desire and physical pleasure. I choose to sacrifice that and hand it over to Jesus. Because I can’t do it in my own strength. Love and respect, my friend.

[@Januaribarn]

looking forward to see what your take on this will be :)

[@teckreactions]

Fingers crossed!

[@Januaribarn]

@@teckreactions i respect your views and beliefs and whatever problems i personally have with those are irrelevant in your comment section imo but what many fail to realise is wether or not ren is “factually correct” or not doesn’t matter. he is an artist and he is making art and this is an ARTPIECE with a strong message, he isn’t a pastor holding a sermon, he isn’t making a report or making a claim and presenting this as facts , he is using the story of eden as a way to drive towards his point, his message and he is free to reimagine it however he could possibly think of as it is /Art/. it doesn’t even have to necessarily be what he believes the story to be, he couldve told it to be god as the sinner and the devil to be jesus while believing the fairy godmother to be our creator, it doesn’t matter as it is art to explore a topic that we need to open our eyes to. the second part however is 100% what he believes and is passionate about. i think he is using the story of eden in particular i think is because of that very thing you called out christian’s for, if you don’t take adult responsibility for your own actions and instead blame bad behaviour on a separate entity (using the devil as a scapegoat) is exactly the problem that got us where we are (and ofc not only bc of christian’s to be clear lol) and what you said at the end about not thinking it’s something that’ll ever change is why it won’t ever change. we give up before even trying. and we can lean on our belief systems but even when we’re gone we still have to leave our children to this world and at this rate we’ll truly leave them in hell on earth. thank you for the call out, that increased my respect for you even more. it’s been something that’s really bothered me with christian religion along with doing the “right thing” / choosing not to sin out of fear of rejection at the gates of heaven- but if that’s the reason is it even a good deed anymore? if one chooses to do good, not for the sake of doing good but because one fears the consequences is a selfish act. one who chooses to do good just because they want to do good is much more commendable imo. anyways we can agree to disagree on stuff because as you said no one is here to convert anyone i guess my adhd took over a bit so ill cut it short here but great reaction honestly, it was cool to learn more about the music used in the background and i’m really looking forward to more ren from you, can’t wait for you to delve into the money game series but before that i think you should react to ren’s 1 million subscribers- defining success where you see who ren is as a person :)

[@teckreactions]

@@JanuaribarnI’ve seen his 1 million subscribers video already. Very moving.

[@christelsegbars1630]

Oke, I'm looking forward to this... personally I think its briljant❤

[@teckreactions]

It’s pretty good!

[@sorenm.lairdsorries7547]

Thank you 🙏❤ Teck ❤ for your 🐷 Ren - 🏞👩👨🍎🐍 Eden reaction! #ren #eden #realmoneygame #moneygamefinish #sickboialbum

[@teckreactions]

Thank you!

[@sandiraymond1761]

At over 400 comments, I don’t know if you’ll see this one. My favorite author is Ted Dekker. He writes spirtual truth, couched in supernatural thrillers. He always brings the story back to redemption and sanctification. I'm currently reading a devotional he wrote (a detour from his normal writing), call The Forgotten Way. He writes about our identity in Christ. He aligns his writing very closely with scripture, and yet I see my self doubt rise up over and over again, bucking against the glorious, ridiculous, radical grace that has been bestowed on us. To root our identity in Him - to sit in the seat reserved for Him (seated with Him in heavenly places) - to inherit and rule with Him... all of it seems wild. Anyway. I think you'd enjoy it.

[@teckreactions]

I try to read and reply to all comments. Ted Dekker is great! I read the Circle Series a couple years ago, just finished 49th Mystic and about to start Rise of the Mystics!

[@Oitsugina93]

I love Ren and know his story and motives leading up to this, which helped me understand where it came from. I have been on a faith journey and the fact that the humanization of God in the beginning made me cringe, told me I am getting somewhere. Thanks for your reaction. ❤

[@teckreactions]

Praying for your journey with Him ❤️

[@Oitsugina93]

@@teckreactions Thank you! I also wanted to add that I believe Ren will get there too, with our prayers.

[@CosmicVagabondPixie]

& again paused at 26:40 to say a big big wholehearted YES i Agree!!!

[@teckreactions]

🙌🏻

[@abbymathews5088]

There’s nothing like religion that can derive devision between the most like minded of peoples. Religion the root cause of war throughout human history. It can even cause Renegades to become slightly frustrated with one another. I love you my fellow Renegades! Yes, I’m laughing at us. 😆😅😂🤣😘❤️❤️❤️✌️

[@teckreactions]

Religion sucks.

[@abbymathews5088]

@@teckreactions no it doesn’t. I don’t think there is anything wrong with having faith in whatever a person chooses. I was raised Methodist. I have a serious problem with Christian Nationalism; other than that, to each their own. 😉❤️✌️

[@d2ndborn]

I love your reaction to this. And hearing your thoughts. Check out Dear God also from Ren. Also thought provoking.

[@teckreactions]

Will do!

[@CosmicVagabondPixie]

YAY!!! **GeniusRen** **Get It** **ManyPixieHugz&LuvzALL**

[@teckreactions]

HUGS!

[@Almethese84]

I am halfway through and I appreciate your insights; as an agnostic, I would like to share some thoughts. I would ask you to appreciate that, often, when Ren is giving his interpretations he doesn't present them as fact, but as an idea to be discussed. He also never says that Humans and Lucifer share the same fate, but that we share similar fates which cannot be untrue because the word similar is ambiguous. Anyway, thank you for your insightful commentary. Much love from Canada! I would also invite you to be a little bit more open-minded and entertain that your understanding of scripture is not the one and only true understanding. Someone else's lens is not weird to he who wears the lens. The fact that Humans exist (through the lens of scripture) is proof that God has wanted more thus we were created. So...

[@teckreactions]

Thanks for your insightful comment. I appreciate you ❤

[@jamiereed6080]

peace of Christ be with you

[@teckreactions]

And also with you.

[@lokihasbeentaken8493]

Okay I've been bingeing your Ren reactions and I'm glad to see you connected the Devils Interval or progression. Loving the reactions! I will kick the hornets nest and say no. You state that "god" dictates that he cannot lie but admit that he created, knows about, and is responsible for all things. *drops mic

[@teckreactions]

***picks mic back up*** You dropped something 🤣 Numbers 23:19 and 1 Samuel 15:29, emphasizing that God is incapable of lying, aligning with His nature of absolute truth and integrity. 2 Timothy 2:13 reinforces this by asserting God's faithfulness even when we are faithless, as He cannot deny Himself. James 1:13's declaration that God cannot be tempted with evil nor does He tempt anyone is another testament to His inherently good nature. This inherent goodness precludes any action that would be considered evil by His standard, which transcends human understanding of morality.

[@lokihasbeentaken8493]

@@teckreactions but... he created all of it yes? How can, as you stated, he create everything but not this? And yes I dropped something. *picks it back up and drops it again

[@Sassyglbeauty]

@@lokihasbeentaken8493inherently the opposite of truth is lie. God is THE TRUTH. When he kicked Lucifer out of Heaven, he became the LIE. It became his cornerstone in order to win over more “soldiers” to face the epic final battle with God.

[@teckreactions]

@@lokihasbeentaken8493 answersingenesis.org/blogs/calvin-smith/did-god-create-evil/

[@lokihasbeentaken8493]

@teckreactions I read the whole article. It proves my point and does exactly what you're doing. God created everything BUT this thing. If God created everything but didn't create this thing over here then how did he create everything? When something bad happens religious folk say it's God's will, God has a plan. Everything was written and you can't change what God wrote. God created Morning Star, angels don't have free will, so by Morning Star's rebellion that is also God's will because he created everything, wrote everything, has a design and plan FOR EVERYTHING. I love how the more devout a human is the more they pick and choose what God does and did to fit their narrative lmao

[@davidperkins6752]

"forcing someone to love you is not love". "love me or burn in hell for eternity".

[@teckreactions]

I admit. It doesn’t feel fair. But the opposite of eternity in heaven must have an opposite. If we don’t choose to be in relationship with Him, our souls still go somewhere eternally. Either in the presence of God (Heaven) which is our choice. He will never force Himself upon us. Or in eternal separation from Him, which is hell. Unfortunately, sin cannot exist in God’s presence so we’re destined for hell unless we cross the bridge (willingly) to cleanse that sin through Jesus. God doesn’t send people to hell. It’s our choice. He presents us with choices and we make them. If the stovetop burner is on, I have a choice to touch it or not. Nobody forced me to touch it. I chose to. And there’s a consequence for each action.

[@tommoxjr]

But God made hell, for the”damned” to go to. He didn’t need to do that. Satan didn’t create hell, only God can create. Church destroyed my faith…three times : once, when I was abused by an Anglican Vicar, again, when I became a youth worker at a baptist church and a new minister decided to covert the church into a Hillsong style money-making venture and hurt a number of my very good friends and colleagues, and finally, when I came to Australia, another “charismatic” church (that had a cappuccino machine roster!) when the very wealthy donor of 2 expensive Italian coffee machines answered my query as to why nurses such as myself shouldn’t be paid as much as coffee rosters like him, with the statement “God needs you to understand humility in order to be a good nurse, which you may not do if life was too easy for you”. Bollocks to it!

[@teckreactions]

@@tommoxjr I'm incredibly sorry you went through that. Nobody should have to, and it especially should not come from people claiming to follow Jesus. I'm sorry. Regarding Hell, yes, God created it. He created it specifically for Satan and his demons. It's also the final destination for those who reject Christ. Hell is a place where God's presence does not reside. There has to be an opposite to eternity in God's presence. That opposite is hell. We can not like it, but it's a reality that exists. He gave us a way to avoid it through Jesus and I'm grateful for that. At the end of the day, we get to exercise our free will to spend eternity with Him or not.

[@davidperkins6752]

@@teckreactions i can accept the argument that there is a need for an "opposite to Gods presence" though, to be clear, only within a given context and solely for the purpose of argument. what i absolutely refute is the concept of free will. there can be no free will with a gun to the head. furthermore, what we're actually talking about is the idea that our loving creator has a special place where he will send you in which you will be tortured for eternity. pain without end. for the crime of not believing in the existence of a being who refuses to prove his existence. as you pointed out in your response to tommoxjr, God created hell specifically for Satan and his demons. he chose to include human beings, who he knowingly created as flawed beings, on the hell guest list. the only conclusion i can draw from this information is that your God is either exceptionally cruel or not nearly as clever as his P.R. team big him up to be. with all sincerity, much love to you and yours.🙂🙂🙂

[@teckreactions]

​@@davidperkins6752 Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I can relate to your experiences with the Bible before I fully embraced my faith in Jesus. Acknowledging and believing in God's presence is essential, as it is the foundation for understanding the consequences of sin and the significance of obedience. The unfortunate reality is that sin sets us on a path toward separation from God, which is why hell is considered humanity's default state. Conversely, attaining heaven is not an entitlement but a gracious gift that must be accepted through faith. God's desire for reconciliation with all people led to the establishment of a path to redemption through Jesus. Faith, as described in Hebrews 11:1, is the "substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Our human nature, tainted by sin, prevents us from fully perceiving God's majesty and glory, which are beyond our comprehension and unsafe for us to behold in our flawed state. In terms of proving His existence, I believe God has made and continues to make Himself known. He reveals Himself through creation, human conscience, His Word, and Jesus Christ. The first two reveal His presence in a general sense, while the latter two provide a more personal, profound, and complete understanding. In the realm of science, which adheres to the Law of Cause and Effect, there's a consistent affirmation of biblical truths. Every effect traces back to a cause, leading to the philosophical and theological concept of an Uncaused First Cause, or God.

[@towniesalem]

Loved it. Would love to hear you react to Ren’s song “Dear God”, it’s a letter to God, and a commentary on religion/society. I think you’d like it

[@teckreactions]

I’ll check it out.

[@jodi.lynn.]

25:17 Amen brother. Subbed

[@teckreactions]

Appreciate you

[@lyndsayricardi3462]

Just started your reaction I’m eager to see your take on this!!?

[@teckreactions]

Buckle up!

[@arianapower2593]

If you want to know more about the genius money game challenge Ren set us there is a series of breakdowns done by a fellow reactor Rikashae which gives you a flavour of each of the quizzes. All based around the 7 deadly sins. The first one took the community hours to crack by the end everyone had figured how to work together and it was taking minutes. Once the password was identified it was posted online so that everyone could have a crack at winning. Definitely worth a watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGPcepivotGXaZY

[@teckreactions]

Sweet.

[@Kenai2008]

Thank you for your interpretation. I found the same inconsistencies in Ren's interpretations, they are very close to 100% accurate, but simple inaccuracies can change the story 100%. I believe Ren's message is helpful, inciteful and not conceded, but made with love. Your opinion and thoughts are always welcome. much love!

[@teckreactions]

Thank you, my friend. I agree! We're all after the same aim. Our inspiration behind it is just different. And that's OK!

[@davidarmes747]

I don't think it was a bad experience at church i think when you get as sick as he was God is definitely something you question or even doubt and I would imagine it is hard to overcome the reason for feeling like you were left out to dry. Love the reactions keep it up Bro

[@teckreactions]

I understand that. As someone who has struggled with autoimmunity for over 20 years, it’s a question I still ask.

[@davidarmes747]

@@teckreactions absolutely.... One love🙏

[@dmj4966]

I'm feel that, ironically as an an agnostic, I do have faith in the future based on the view of the younger generation I have seen, they seem more in harmony to the world then my generation

[@teckreactions]

I love that.

[@im2yz4u17]

Great Reaction TECK, pleaes do more REN. Money Game is on your list but do not forget that he has a ton of stuff. Renegades are just super excited about Money Game 3. I would love to hear your reactions still for the series: Freckled Angels; Dominoes; Suicide; and For Joe. That serious is related but not knowingly by the names. I loved your comments in the last video and in this one too. PLease DO keep it up. As with REN, I am agnostic too. However, while I discount the works of man, i.e. the Bible, Koran or other writings, I do believe in a higher being or authority. I just cannot fathom belief based on anything other than what is inside me. Good and evil are inside each of us. How we express that outside our minds, be it moral, values, beliefs, teachings, practice or what not, is an expression of our individual goodness. That is what I believe. Perhaps if I were to name my God, I would look to 'Hi Ren' where Ren says, '"Some people know me as HOPE". That one bar shocked me the most when I heard it. Ren speaks to the internal battle and eventually finds balance inside himself. I am writing about the external expression of goodness alone. I seek HOPE. When I am gone, if my soul spreads through the quantum foam or I find myself under the gaze of God, I will not regret.

[@teckreactions]

Cool perspective. I would agree. God made Himself known to me before I read one word of Scripture. When I began reading Scripture, that same God confirmed He was the same one who breathed the words I was reading. Peace.

[@lelandtuttle5756]

If He made us for his own enjoyment, wasn't that him desiring more..??

[@teckreactions]

Great question. www.gotquestions.org/does-God-need-us.html

[@ChristineP-qp6vn]

My aim is to leave the world a better place when I leave it as well and it was nice hearing you say the same thing. I did subscribe to your channel. Normally I won’t do that for someone who has faith because I’m atheist that has had religious people push their religion on me as soon as they find out I’m atheist. you welcome everyone, as do I until they try to push their religion on me. He uses the story because it leads into his other song, the seven deadly sins which you should check out. I would also remind you that people can interpret your book in different ways. It doesn’t make them right or wrong and it doesn’t mean that you’re right or wrong.

[@teckreactions]

Thanks for your kind words. That story is clear and consistent across translations and denominations and, therefore, does not lend itself to varied interpretations. That being said, I clarify some things in the Community tab.

[@TobiiRheaStarr]

Absolute masterpiece, nothing but pure facts, well I won’t say the beginning is facts because I don’t believe in god and all that surrounds it but I respect others beliefs. You need to do the Money Game trilogy (lyric vid for part 2) 🖤

[@teckreactions]

On it.

[@Mariomatters1984]

Its great that you reacted to this... Although Ren says hes agnostic, hes mentions God a lot in his songs. If you listen and react to Dear God by Ren its like a prayer to God, he asks him some big questions. Prohaps you might have the answers.

[@Mariomatters1984]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4DMc2V3jrqXg7Msi=5Iom0PUwXwz_LVFa

[@teckreactions]

I don’t pretend to have answers to the questions we ask God. I have some questions myself.

[@CosmicVagabondPixie]

i am in tears **Beautiful** & **Horrid** just WoW but yes unfortunately **Time Immemorial** of greed do NOT know how we will ever overcome that...guess there also is always **Hope**

[@teckreactions]

❤️

[@psychedelicastronaut2578]

Much respect. I’m a Thomas. I doubt. Taking the Bible literally is impossible for me. Blind faith is like the robot you mentioned several times. I believe, in something. Thank you.

[@teckreactions]

I understand. I appreciate that. For me, the Bible is a way I engage in a relationship with God. But His presence in my life was felt long before I read a word.

[@jude-isaiahcochran602]

Someone else might have chimed I with this, but the line that God created us for His eternal pleasure, implies that God has desires and a desire is defined by the wanting of more than you currently have. It is mentioned many times in the Bible, the desires of God. This is a logical interpretation of the words as written in the bible. I would also like to point out that the concept of the Trinity is relatively new within Christian faith and is predominantly an American doctrine. Many Christians outside of the US don't recognize the Trinity and so from the prospective of a single God, loneliness is completely possible.

[@teckreactions]

Great points. www.gotquestions.org/does-God-need-us.html www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html

[@CosmicVagabondPixie]

Hi just wanted to say i really do like what you said about behavior & taking responsibility

[@teckreactions]

We need to do better.

[@user-tz3dh6bu1p]

You have so many to choose from !! For his messages watch the Money Games 1,2 & 3 His lyrics check all his lyrical videos. I think he has like 25 or so available. For his voice, Big push his busking videos or Fred Again mash-up, or Back in 74 message in a bottle . You could pick any of ones on his page and you won't be disappointed . Then check his 1 million subscriber thank you speech. Or his interview with your fellow reaction-er Knox Hill..

[@teckreactions]

I’ve seen the 1 million subs and Knox Hill interview. Pretty amazing.

[@matthewschreiber2421]

All "Christian denominations" Churches have their own interpretation of the bible. And most people have their own interpretations of verses too.

[@teckreactions]

That’s true. But this specific story is clear and consistent across denominations. Probably why Ren chose it.

[@davehinton4587]

It is all about the second half of the song? It does not matter what you believe, what matters is how you use free will. How you live, perhaps is the more important than you specific beliefs. Believing fine, now live it.

[@teckreactions]

Great point. I try really hard to live out what I believe. Although I’m not perfect at it.

[@matmachin9992]

Open your mind

[@teckreactions]

Mind is open.

[@matmachin9992]

Ok, but it's not, that's ok though. You already know that.

[@RebeccaMidyette]

Money Game trilogy should be your next view...

[@teckreactions]

Definitely

[@Vmcf1968]

yeah, i reacted to your reaction of money game before this. the garden had two trees the tree of life and the tree of knowledge. our being cast out from eden cut humanity off from the tree of life ergo we live and reproduce and die. so god told the truth the devil twisted the truth by saying we'd be spared god never said our death would be instant the devil implied it would. having said all that it doesnt matter what matters is what we do with what we have. it all boils down to love. if greed is the most insidious sin then love is the most prolific virtue. love yourself and project your love outward and we can change the world.

[@drakal30]

I respect where you are coming from with being true to the bible; however, you cannot tell me a book supposedly written over 2000 years ago is word for word what GOD actually said. All of this is in interpretation from the an interpretation by the council of Nicea under Constantine the Great. The current bible was "edited" by the various church aristocracy across the empire and approved by the emperor himself. Who knows what was in the original, who knows what was added to aid in the strengthening of the official Roman Catholic Church in order to help the emperor bind his empire together. This is why I roll my eyes when I hear according to scripture which is GOD's words verbatim. Love your reaction! Cheers!

[@teckreactions]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I value your insight. Indeed, human involvement often raises questions about the reliability of information. The Council of Nicea was convened to address growing disputes within church leadership, primarily focusing on Christ's nature, the correct date for Easter, and other minor issues. This was a critical time when the weakening Roman Empire was struggling with internal divisions due to theological disagreements, with the central argument concerning the nature of Christ. The Council of Nicea did not create new doctrines about Christ. It confirmed the apostolic teachings about who Christ is-God incarnate and the second person of the Trinity, alongside the Father and the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, I hold the Bible in high regard, as Timothy describes it as "God-breathed." It's a divine inspiration for humans to record what God directed them to write. This concept is profound and often challenging for our limited understanding. It's also significant to note that we still have access to original scrolls, which bolsters our understanding and the authenticity of biblical texts. Moreover, my personal relationship with God is profoundly real and meaningful. It's dynamic, authentic, and deeply special. The Bible reinforces this connection, affirming the faith I experience. Appreciate you, my friend.

[@drakal30]

@@teckreactionsA much more eloquent reply than mine, but I tend to be direct. I could go on all day about how every religion builds upon older ones or borrows concepts from. I believe man's desire to bring order to a chaotic universe was to invent "Religion". Of course, we have the chicken and the egg scenario.

[@teckreactions]

⁠@@drakal30I would agree on religion. Religion gets in the way of the relationship God intended us to have with him. Religion makes us think we have to earn it when, in fact, the grace of that relationship is freely given. I would argue the chicken came first. Similar to how Adam and Eve were created (not born) and then conceived children.

[@johnpegues5701]

Seven Sins and the Money Game Trilogy both expand Ren's view of the nature of man...there are so many different directions to go, but you will get to these sooner or later....lead on.

[@teckreactions]

Thanks, John!

[@ladonnahafen9938]

I always feel bad when people recommend Christians react to Eden because I know the comment section will most likely be brutal. IMO the Eden comments really need to be face to face conversations to reach a point of peaceful mutual understanding. I applaud you for trying to thoughtfully respond to everyone in a loving way. ❤️

[@teckreactions]

Face to face is always preferred. I’m doing my best in the comments but having a hard time keeping up. Text lacks that emotional connection to really have a great conversation.

[@matmachin9992]

I love that your faith lets you believe this. Its commendable. How do you know it's not true? Were you there? Or do you believe what you read?

[@teckreactions]

I was not there. I believe the book written by God through humans.

[@jamiechallenger7084]

I worried about this reaction but you did a great job... also I'm an anti-theist. Subscribed ❤

[@teckreactions]

I appreciate that! Thanks for subbing!

[@sorenm.lairdsorries7547]

The money game that was played on-and-off the interwebs and in the real world stands a bit apart of the so-called Money Game "trilogy" of Rap songs. It is essentially Money Game, Money Game Part 2 and Money Game Part 3, no surprises. But then, there are a few more videos than just the 3 one would expect. The Money Game "trilogy": 1 Ren - Money Game (Official Music Video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZprZgqqtnLxnhbs 2.1 Ren - Money Game Part 2 (Official Lyric Video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6DRhGyVhq-Vppo

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I love it. Saves me from searching. Thanks!

[@Hoop_23]

"We exist for his pleasure", therefor he, God, desired more. More entertainment apparently.

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I don’t pretend to have all the answers.

[@jasonklenetsky5687]

I don’t believe you. But you’re entitled to believe whatever you like. Cheers!

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I’m not asking anyone to believe ME. So it’s fine if you don’t. Appreciate you being here.

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I think the bible is an interpretation. But this is a work of art . I live your music knowledge. The biggest issue i have with religion is yhat man presumes to know the mind of God and follow a book written by men to whom religon assumes have inside knowledhe that requires us to follow to find salvation. Anyway, each of us follows our own path. Ren is referencing the online Money Game based on the 7 deadly sins. We used collective intelligence to solve riddles and win money for each "Sin" with a huge kicker on the last one of greed. The winner was given a choice and when the choice was made, this video was played.

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I would love to check out Money Game. I understand this is a work of art. But it is based of a biblical story that’s clear and consistent across translations and denominations. Probably why Ren chose it. This isn’t the best medium to debate the validity of the Bible, written by man but directed via God by His Holy Spirit. The Bible is one of the main ways God communicates with us. But here’s a great resource to consider. www.gotquestions.org/Bible-reliable.html I really appreciate you being here, my friend.

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@@teckreactions united by love. I don't seem to need more than the unity I feel with all.

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@@francesdoll4039I love it ❤

[@tedsumner304]

Ren said that he is spiritual but not religious in an interview. I think it is important to understand that when listening to his music/art. Lost All Faith is good song that helps understand Ren and his faith. What I don’t know is if Lost All Faith is just a snapshot of his feeling in a dark place or a larger description of his beliefs. Most likely, it is a bit of both. I think the thing people miss is that to God, death may not be death in the physical sense. Separation from God is also death. Adam and Eve lost a perfect relationship with God; spiritual death. Eve saying God lied demonstrates her complete corruption. Ren is currently my favorite artist. I love almost all of his art. This is not one I listen to.

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That's an incredibly insightful viewpoint I hadn't thought about before. The idea that when the narrative shifts to Eve's perspective, it reflects her reality in her state of sin, rather than being strictly from Ren's point of view, is fascinating. You've just opened my eyes to a new revelation. Thank you so much!

[@debbyshannon7242]

I consider myself to be. Modern Diest. I believe in higher power. I dont believe in organized religion. I think ppl use religion as a crutch. They are supposed to TRUST in God, but mostly ive noticed that they blame God. My son was born with Autism ... Ive actually had several christians tell me it was a punishment from God because i had strayed from his path... I see it as a blessing from God, i have a beautiful son that will always have an innocent heart and mind. His name is Lucas Jeremiah. I believe God made us and put us on this Earth. He gave us everything we need to not only survive but to thrive! And if we fail.... Its simply because we didnt try. We didnt trust. We didnt believe in ourselves. Its not supposed to be easy, but it is achievable. JUST MY OPINION ❤ MUCH LOVE TO EVERYONE

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I’m sorry you hate such hateful religious people tell you your son was a punishment. All of us, especially them, fall short of the glory of God. Your son was designed by God for a purpose and is a beautiful creation.

[@johneicher7914]

Too much hate is done in the name of "religion" even "Christianity". Those people do harm to Christianity and they do not represent Christianity as it should be. Its about loving and not judging.

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@@johneicher7914 Amen.

[@marshallfarms9139]

With the way you break down music I’m looking forward to the big push reactions

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Sweet!