INAV for Beginners 2023: 2. Flashing and setting up the flight controller

[@GordonScottYankeeEngineer]

Your videos have been invaluable over the years, a real asset to the community 🙏

[@testpilotian3188]

My flight controller (Speedybee F405 wing) has the same “break out board” for the USB and alarm, I made my own harness and installed a Vifly lost model alarm instead because years of experience of locating and retrieving planes from corn fields has taught me never to trust that the flight battery won’t come disconnected in a crash. With the Vifly it’s designed for drones and if the power is disconnected it automatically goes off for 3 hours. Two prime examples of this, when my wing went down in the field close to our flying field and the battery flew out, it took 5 minutes to find the model, when a friends Wot4 went down in the same field, it took 3 DAYS and many many drone flights up and down the field to find his plane.

[@terrymurphy562]

Another superb and educational video. It is really helpful to a lot of people who use inav and who want to start using inav.

[@lankyjames88]

Cheers for this series Lee, just bought a speedybee f405 wing FC to start my fpv plane journey and this series couldnt have come at a better time!

[@lankyjames88]

I just want to point out that my GPS did not work first time, and that's because i completely forgot that RX and TX pins are swapped when connecting from board to device. IE Board RX goes to device TX. Once i swapped those around i got the blue gps and messages being sent successfully.

[@PunakiviAddikti]

Be sure to pay attention to the pinouts. The connector pinout is printed onto the top PCB, trust that instead of any images on Google. The four connector ports right below the top PCB are the LED strip ports, the ones below those are peripheral ports.

[@BrainDeadEngineering]

I'm looking forward to this series ! still learning ArduP but am a INAV noob. My first all wing bird an AR pro . Thank you.

[@Alen.88]

Another great video, cant wait for next one. You should expand this series with few fpv episodes :)

[@Painless360]

HD video setup shown in the series... Stay tuned!

[@Msu625]

Thank you for the video, they have always the most helpful resource online! I have this same FC and i noticed that the max power out from the board is 5V. So would i need to upgrade to a larger FC like the H743 that can support 9V out to power the DJI O3 air unit? @@Painless360

[@Painless360]

I power from the ESC pads here... see my other builds using HD systems.. best of luck

[@jaytank31]

I did it. Im sorry it took me awile to figure how to get my FC flashed im not computer literate so i i watched your videos untill i could figure it out. I can flash one now with no problems. On to the next video. Thank you

[@ronboFPV]

Thanks! Easy to learn thanks

[@Painless360]

You are welcome!

[@yardner7670]

Sure would be nice if you would spend a few moments on how to set up a Spektrum on the receiver tap of INav. I think that you may Not be a Spektrum person but I’m sure there are a lot of Spektrum users that would like to set up a fixed wing using INav with our Spektrum transmitter. Big fan of your channel. Really great content. thanks

[@Painless360]

Sadly I have no Spektrum kit to use here... Happy flying

[@d.o.darnell9428]

If you are using TBS micro SBUS RX and Radiomaster/EdgeTX you must swap AIL and ELE channels in model's Inputs (setup) page in TX.

[@adamrichards360]

Thanks for the great video. However, when I try to refresh with the latest release the speedy bee 405 wing mini won't flash, I've tried everything. I even followed the instructions from iNav. Do you have an easy answer to how to refresh your FC? Thank you.

[@Painless360]

Check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWjGi2hojLV7oMU

[@itskevscott]

Great video, bang on the mark, thanks for putting it together! Just one question, if my ailerons have different recommended travel up and down, say 20deg up and 6 deg down, how do I set that? Cheers!

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o16oppyjd82prNU should help. Remember you can support the time I spend helping others by using the links in the description.. Happy flying!

[@ronboFPV]

Hi Lee, I got the Protek35 to fly with INAV, Yeah, thanks for your videos. I just have a sluggish throttle, all other moves are very snappy and clean. What can I do to fix the throttle to make it snappy, thanks

[@Painless360]

8n what flight does? Quad or plane?

[@MrPatrickmartin1985]

Can you explain why you removed the Compass wires from connecting the GPS to the flight controller please?

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppfVf6aNathgmdUsi=UktVAr7UFffJBXHr happy flying!

[@alphabean]

Are there any pwm spektrum receivers that are compatiable with the atomrc f405 navi flight controller? Also, I can't get my futaba r6303sb receiver in sbus mode to communicate with the flight controller. I have it plugged into the sbus port next to the LED port and uart 2 enabled.

[@Painless360]

I don't know. I don't use Spektrum or Futaba here. Best of luck

[@berkie5569]

Hi Lee. Greetings from Downunder! I'm stumped at 6:36 where you say "click on connect". I can't find "connect". Can you help this 87 yr .young whipper snapper?

[@Painless360]

Connect button in top right hand corner. Best of luck

[@berkie5569]

Thanks Lee. It happens so quick on the video, I missed it. However, after clicking, connect I get this Entering CLI Mode, type 'exit' to return, or 'help' # Sorry, can't get a screen shot to work

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGalg2yVq7uqpqc

[@rrenegadoo]

why when I Open the Inav I can't connect my new Mateksys F405-WMN ?, I can't see any COM, I only have Manual Selection, BLE, TCP,UDP,SITL and Demo mode?.... Thx.

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGalg2yVq7uqpqc

[@ronboFPV]

HI Lee, I dont see my FC in the list for INAV Ifight Blitz F435, Can I flash the Iflight Blitz F722 ? Thanks

[@Painless360]

Looks like you can... INAV/IFLIGHT_BLITZ_F722 6.0.0 Oct 20 2022 / 14:35:29 (

[@ronboFPV]

Hi Lee, I tried other FCs and they load the firmware OK, but the Iflight F435 will not connect after the loading the new firmware, thanks @@Painless360

[@crashrr2993]

I’ve had a Matek F405 wing fc in my drawer for two years but been too chicken to do anything with it. So, imagine my delight when I stumbled upon this series. Out it came and, full of 62-year young enthusiasm I clicked the Inav configurator link… … … … I’m still waiting for the ‘assets’ menu to populate……….. I can’t believe I’ve been stymied on the second click!☹️

[@Painless360]

Try it again. Sometimes you'll need to cleck on the little arrow by the side of where it says 'assets' to see them

[@crashrr2993]

@@Painless360 Good evening, and thanks for your kind reply. I’ve tried the little arrow to no avail. Two hours later, and the wee ⭕️ is still circling! However, fortified by your excellent tutorial, I will try, try again… tomorrow. I am very keen to crack this gig.

[@crashrr2993]

Sorted! I had to copy the link from my iPhone, send it to my iMac and then it worked. Can't wait to get going now. Cheers.@@Painless360

[@Bill-NM]

Does iNav work with a 3-channel plane? Motor, elevator, and rudder? Even if it won't work WELL, is there any way to use iNav with a 3-ch airplane? Thanks...

[@Painless360]

Yes, I've setup a few on the channel.. Best of luck

[@Bill-NM]

Thanks Lee I'll look for the videos.

[@mrleaffpv]

Hi. I have an skyartec cessna 182 n9528 model. Will the Matek F405-WMN FC good to make it convert to FPV and Crossfire?

[@Painless360]

If it'll fit, yes. Best of luck

[@rajanyt7343]

Hi, is there any doc or guide availabe on speedybee F405 v3 for pusher fixed wing setup. Its like converting 405 v3 quad into wing

[@Painless360]

I'm guessing you're not a regular viewer. Please make sure that you subscribe to the channel and have the bell notification icon selected. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jojZaJR9bN9laNE Happy flying!

[@grahampenfold6121]

What do you look for if the GPS icon in INAV remains red?

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hV6UoJd8h7eBjLs

[@ronboFPV]

my inav7 has different flight modes modifiers, "NAV ALTHOLD, HEADING HOLD, TURN ASSIST?

[@Painless360]

They are not new flight modes Best of luck

[@pratieks]

Is it possible to flash Ardupilot into the same flight controller that currently has INAV?

[@Painless360]

Yes, Ardupilot now supports lots of hardware now. See my video on it.. Best of luck

[@mode2fpv]

inav 7.1 speedybee wing f405,,I can't find a way to get the motors spinning below 7-8% radio throttle which is 1150us in receiver tab- esc calibrated , any suggestion ?

[@Painless360]

What motor protocol?

[@mode2fpv]

@@Painless360 standard

[@Painless360]

Then I'd recalibrate or look to set the minimum throttle value in INAV to match where the motors start. A successful ESC calibration should fix it... Best of luck.

[@alainrac56]

An other superb video, I'm not english fluent, but looking at a lot of your videos, I understand more now😉 btw, is it necessary to flash the fc before setting? I didn't, but it seems to work anyway...

[@Painless360]

It isn't essential bit makes a few things easier.. Happy flying

[@alainrac56]

@@Painless360 ...so I flashed the Speedbee405 wing, not easy but looking at your old videos about Zadig, it worked, but now, I can't connect anymore to configurate...any idea? Sorry to bother you with this, I spent a lot of time to sort it out and still not working as was before to flash the fc...

[@Painless360]

Still sounds like a driver issue. Delete the device it appears as in Device Manager and plug it in again.. Best of luck

[@alainrac56]

Thanks! It works now, thank to a friend better than me with computers 😊

[@anupmokashi3114]

Hello sir I have Matek f405 wte I’m using inbuilt Elrs receiver with my tx16s Elrs external module I’m updated both devices letest firmware I’m trying to in inav for fix wing but non stick response in receiver tab ( my receiver and tx connect but not show in inav) All setup is good ports-UART 2 set serial Receiver tab also set serial and crsf This trying without battery connection to fc and mode not set I’m trying only USB plug-in to fc So what happened in my case ? Thank you please give me solutions

[@Painless360]

I'd check that you are bound properly. SPI connected recievers can be tricky... Check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/faKviqh7d6h7rNksi=VCCtof-dWabUiiPz Best of luck

[@bender9205]

I'd love to see your wiring documentation process

[@Painless360]

Interesting idea. What do you mean exactly?

[@bender9205]

@@Painless360 I find myself taking lots of pictures and having to figure out exactly what I did for old planes from those and the flight controller diagram. You mentioned documenting your wiring and I thought perhaps you had a good method for making a quick and easily understandable reference for the future.

[@Painless360]

I see. For simple things I use pen and paper. For more complex setups, I draw it all out on something like PowerPoint with all the correct wire colours to help keep it all straight for the install... Happy flying

[@AlleUSA]

I live in Europe and I'm using a BN-220 GPS. Should I enable Galileo constellation? If I enable it, should I disable other constellations to not affect the GPS update rate? Thank you.

[@Painless360]

I do here, helps get a faster lock and more sats..

[@AlleUSA]

@@Painless360 just enable it, or should I disable other constellation?

[@Painless360]

Enable it and leave everything else the same, as I show..

[@AlleUSA]

​@@Painless360 I did it as per your video but I do not get more sats. I also tried to use "gpspassthrough" and "serialpassthrough" and connect to ucenter to check the GPS configuration created by Inav and Galileo is not enabled even if I enable it in Inav configurator. Anything else I can try?

[@jaytank31]

I am trying to find the link you have to fix the driver so i can flash my fc. Thank you.

[@Painless360]

Link in description

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic, Lee! Thanks a LOT for the tutorial! 😃 I have a question though... Let's say I build an airplane with landing gear and I won't throw it, but take-off from the ground... Do I still need auto launch? Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Painless360]

It still can be used like that, but why would you need to? Happy flying!

[@MCsCreations]

@@Painless360 Yeah, that's how I'm thinking about it. But, at the same time, I guess it wouldn't hurt either...

[@TheWingnut58]

Hi Lee, sorry to trouble you again....I've gotten to this stage but am having an issue that I can't seem to find an answer for. I'm using Linux Mint and when I start Inav configurator and connect the Speedybee, I get the error message "failed to open MSP port"....any ideas?

[@Painless360]

Try another USB cable and check that the USB port number in Configurator is correct... Best of luck

[@TheWingnut58]

@@Painless360 it automatically changes the port when I connect the USB cable.....I've tried with two different laptops as well as two different USB cables that have been verified as data transfer capable. Thanks for the quick response, please let me know if you think of something else....

[@Painless360]

Nothing else springs to mind - I'm a Windows user here.. If you figure it out - please let me know.

[@TheWingnut58]

@@Painless360 thanks Lee, will do...

[@TheWingnut58]

Hi Lee, seems I had a faulty FC board, SpeedyBee is on the ball and sending a replacement....I'll reply again once I get the new board.

[@lindawise6351]

It seems that Arming and Flight Mode are both on CH 5, Is that the right way?

[@Painless360]

No, keep watching... Happy flying

[@pofotiouzois]

Why the horizon and manual modes are in channel 5 where arming is?

[@Painless360]

Kero watching, that'll be fixed when we test everything... Well spotted..

[@ronboFPV]

Its quad chopper, I have a Five55 frame with the SpeedyBee F405 V3 and Emax EcoII 2305s motors. ELRS and GPS.

[@Painless360]

See kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYubgoOOntRgn5o for my similar build

[@ronboFPV]

Thanks, Will this solve my throttle soft issues?@@Painless360

[@Painless360]

In what flight mode?

[@MrQuazar]

Hi, i use gps M10Q-250 with that FC MateksysF405WMN, use same conection.Compas works properly, i soldering sda scl lines tx-rx and power with ground, GPS indicator light blue, but no position in gps menu, no gps points on map, no gps data on OSD. Try uBlox/7 add sattelits and others features in inav menus, but no results, whats wrong?

[@Painless360]

Could be a few things. Are you getting messages from the GPS in the GPS tab? That will tell you if you've wired it properly. If that works then try it with a clear view of the sky..

[@MrQuazar]

@@Painless360 messages coming from gps 1-2 per second, ok thnx i will try again on field

[@Painless360]

Messages should be pouring in from the GPS, you should see the GPS counter increasing by a lot every second..

[@GatAppTechnologies]

What is that wing called and can you link it? \

[@Painless360]

Make sure you are subscribed and have the bell notification icon selected so you don't miss stuff as it comes out.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpKVXnavd52FpKMfeature=shared

[@greekzozobra]

Thank you very much for these videos! Are there affiliated links that you can provide?

[@Painless360]

I tend to use links on the review videos. What part are you looking to get?

[@greekzozobra]

@Painless360 I have the zohd dart 250 and looking to get FC (I assume matek f405 will be good?) , also would like to buy the AR wing pro (the pnp version, unless you recommend to get different parts than comes in the pnp) (Note that I'm in the USA) Thanks!

[@Painless360]

No affiliate links for US based shops. I tried to work with GetFPV but didn't get very far... Best of luck!

[@greekzozobra]

@@Painless360 bummer 😕 Thanks for your answer, and please continue with the great content!

[@MrVasmikey]

I bought two F405-wmn boards and not having great success with either. The OSD filtering is not good. Even with capacitors I still get a lot of video noise. I swapped out with an older fill size board like the F765-wing and no noise whatever.

[@Painless360]

How odd. Analogue I assume? A quick search didn't show it as an issue so maybe cable placement or using 50hz servo update speeds? Lots of things it can be... Bsst of luck...

[@MrVasmikey]

Thx Lee, will check the servo frequency. I think with a board that small, it lacks a lot filtering.

[@Painless360]

We had issues with one analogue build here where switching from STANDARD to DSHOT300 on the ESC protocol sorted a lot of the issues out. If using PAL, frequency is 50Hz so running a 50Hz servo or ESC signal wire too close can cause the issues..

[@MrVasmikey]

@@Painless360 This is what I needed. Thx sir!

[@dismaldunc]

One comment i would make for noobs, make sure your USB lead actually can transfer data, A lot of them only have the charging wires inside connected. When i first did this I was stumped for days before i figured this out.

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGalg2yVq7uqpqc Happy flying!

[@ronboFPV]

HI Lee, Thanks for all your videos, how can I contact you via email? I have a question about the Iflight Blitz F435?

[@Painless360]

Free support is available here in the comment section on a relevant video (unless you are a Patreon)..