I really like this ending what if. It's a scenario that I could logically see happening in Super. Universe 7 fail to beat Jiren, but in a way they also succeed, as their resolve and characters change Jiren's outlook as a person. So much so that he ends up making the correct wish to restore all of the universes.
@MrLachapellАй бұрын
The writers cooked
@Rose-ew7bvАй бұрын
Jiren never even wanted to be at the tournament, he thought fighting for the universes to be destroyed was bad. It’s pretty obvious he would wish for it to be reversed
@kinetic3971Ай бұрын
Yeah but I still prefer 17 winning. This ending would have been good too.
@BuddyBoy-ne1nwАй бұрын
Definitely, would've been a more ballsy and "thinking out of the box" plotline to have the protagonists not win...but only to realize in a way they did win in the end. Not with battle power this time, but by influencing Jiren and winning over his heart. Which would've been aligned with the ToP's true goals.
@joelsasmadАй бұрын
@@BuddyBoy-ne1nwWould have made Jiren a heck of a lot more likable too
@xShinigamiRyukuuxАй бұрын
Sparking Zero just casually fixed Jiren
@commentstealer4460Ай бұрын
Fr
@EdmacZАй бұрын
Sparking Zero casually fixed everything from what we got.
@fg009letyrds823 күн бұрын
This is literally just Manga Jiren
@micalangenburg170616 күн бұрын
@@fg009letyrds8 isn't Manga Jiren wanted to revive his Master for validation? The anime never revealed his true wish.
@fg009letyrds816 күн бұрын
@@micalangenburg1706 bruh, Anime Jiren literally attacked the freaking Audience when he was losing, while Manga Jiren didn't even want to participate if it meant that he can cause other universes to be destroyed. Manga Jiren definitely will change his mind like in this What If, Anime Jiren won't.
@thewarnin7307Ай бұрын
25:08 "If I do quit, I betray that trust, and I refu-" (Gets Knocked down)
@SpammytheHedgehogАй бұрын
This was Jiren's character development.
@chaudspielerАй бұрын
This is exactly what we've been wanting to see!!! This game shows us what ifs and I LOVE What If stories!!
@fogzАй бұрын
after all, he was a hero .
@JameyJoeshuaOfficial20 күн бұрын
im crying😭😭
@powerjolt7215Ай бұрын
Honestly this could've been an amazing ending to the ToP. Arguably better than what we got. This would show us that the universe is bigger than we think and there are people far stronger than Goku, Vegeta and prett much every U7 individual (mortals only). It was a waste to introduce the grand multiverse and immediately force it into small boxes comprising of the 10 best fighters. As for what this could lead to. We get Jiren's development as a person, but his power trumps all mindset has been crushed as he only won through the hopes of his comrades. We get Goku and Vegeta finally realizing their limitations as opposed to always finding the right answer. This makes mastering UI and eventually UE more impactful as they have to dig deeper into themselves as Jiren already did.
@youtwoTheta27 күн бұрын
Truly.
@ToastedBread68Ай бұрын
Damn, I actually think this would have been a better ending for the show. It wouldn't really change anything and it gives Jiren some actual character development that he severely lacked. It wouldn't take anything away from 17's development either since he had his self-sacrifice moment earlier. Edit: I think Goku would have kept his promise to revive Frieza, too, even though they lost. Everything that happens after this point should basically be the same.
@usuario15965Ай бұрын
not really,all that just to lose would trash all the hype
@dogestranding5047Ай бұрын
Fr, it would be a better ending than “good guys/protagonists win again.”
@ToastedBread68Ай бұрын
@@usuario15965 I don't think so. All the hype moments of the tournament would still be there. UI Goku mopped the floor with Jiren. He just ran out of time. Jiren winning after everyone's worn out is a twist that people wouldn't see coming, but it makes sense. Everyone always expects the protagonist to pull out the win.
@prollybandit1569Ай бұрын
Fr goku already has so many moments in the show
@firemarshallbob4540Ай бұрын
If they planned on leaving an open ending to Dragon Ball sure but Toriyama had more plans (further Manga arcs and Daima) and thus, Gokuwinslol
@thewalrus45Ай бұрын
always enjoy it when English Dub actually uses "Son Goku"
@jonathansmall9912Ай бұрын
28:30 that aura is awesome 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@STH151NicoleFanАй бұрын
Jiren is a such an amazing character. He’s practically the strongest mortal in the multiverse, and had great character development. It would be awesome if he came back into the story at some point.
@GHSTGAMERZАй бұрын
i like how the gods language is just reverse mortal language
@RichardG20Ай бұрын
Dang, I had to rewatch that part. Nice catch.
@deadzone4033Ай бұрын
Dog Nogard
@SomeRandom-ssjАй бұрын
You’re a legend for catching that.
@Zerohopexe24 күн бұрын
And then a "peas and carrots" at the end
@joelsasmad22 күн бұрын
@@GHSTGAMERZ Nah. It's reversed English specifically. Meaning that somehow a specific branch of mankind evolved to developed the linguistic equivalent of the antichrist.
@eurelioapАй бұрын
You're really a good player. All of the gameplays that I have seen until now was just spam of ultis and transformations. You reminded me the budokai tenkaichi 3 essence
@spynix0718Ай бұрын
14:31 What's funny is that half of the team were Goku's opps at one point. In fact the three who weren't were: Krillin Gohan Master Roshi Everyone else was an enemy.
@joosuee.pАй бұрын
Nah even Krillin was an opp in the very beginning of dragon ball
@autobotkirby1upАй бұрын
@@joosuee.p and roshi was goku's back in his first world tournament.
@ShiningJudgment666Ай бұрын
@@autobotkirby1up Roshi was his Sensei and Krillin was his rival.
@oluwatishАй бұрын
@@autobotkirby1up roshi only fought goku in the tournament to teach him a lesson
@malakaithorne5296Ай бұрын
I got to give props to Jiren! All this time he's been stuck with his haunting past! Which is heartbreaking and understandable. But in the end. He finally found himself a new desire, not only that he learned to let go! W Jiren in the chat!
@AshleyRodriguez-uh2dn9 күн бұрын
Jiren ❤
@user-uv4wn2xx7oАй бұрын
Honestly, this is how it should of ended. Jiren was a beast, and the good guys always winning is a little old.
@asthor93Ай бұрын
To be fair the previous arc was a phyrric victory for the villain. Zamazu might not have lived to see it, but his actions caused the destruction of the universe. Trunks & friends were definitely the losers there.
@angelquirozreales4339Ай бұрын
Jiren was the good In the tournament. They weren't bad guys against good guys
@Serminator30Ай бұрын
@asthor93 Well it technically it didn't matter anyway, since both Zamasu from Goku's timeline and Goku Black from Trunks are already dead. And it was already said that ones Trunks returns in time, he will arrive in a world where Goku Black's never happened. So in the end it was still Trunks win, since that Timeline became non-existent thanks to Zero.
@user-uv4wn2xx7oАй бұрын
@@asthor93 not really since trunks just went back to a different timeline where Zamasu doesn’t exist and he’ll just be around another one of himself.
@PotassiumCenterАй бұрын
Cabba prolly in universe 6 thinking vegeta beat jiren and revived his universe.
@roronoazero814Ай бұрын
he defenitely played the biggest part in defeating jiren
@MohammedAli-vc7wnАй бұрын
@@roronoazero814That speech WAS DEF AMAZING
@KingNazaru26 күн бұрын
People keep saying Jiren got actual character development in this what if as opposed to actual series. I disagree. Most of this stuff was already in the actual series and is just reiterating what he said and did. I actually acknowledge Jiren has a personality and character development in the official series and I think fans weren’t paying attention. The only notable difference besides Jiren winning is him fighting Roshi which is asinine and is only there to be a reference to that happening in the equally asinine Dragonball Super manga written by that hack Toyotaro. Bottom line, I think Jiren is an underrated character.
@santiagojoaquinrojas94357 күн бұрын
Holy...someone that acknowledges Jiren has a personality, heck yea
@vipulvirusАй бұрын
this should have been the correct ending. Jiren after facing Universe 7 changes his heart and being a hero what he was not a maniac villain, he had already decided that he will restore all universes as he values justice.
@paulmarquez1862Ай бұрын
Dude how did you just post this one as soon as i finish it to? You couldnt time this any better
@ihmenАй бұрын
This was probably the original script but Toei must have pressured toriyama into changing it so Goku didn't "lose" the battle. It really made no sense why 17 randomly wished for all the universes back. He had no motivation to do that.
@aRandomFox00Ай бұрын
17 was already content with life and didn't have any wish of his own. I think it makes perfect sense that he would wish for all the damage to be undone.
@ihmenАй бұрын
@@aRandomFox00 But up until the wish, 17 showed no concern for universes being erased. He didn't even care when Goku told him that universe 7 could be erased if they lost. He accepted that if they were erased then that was fate.
@RJALEXANDER777Ай бұрын
Eh, 17s a ranger, a conservationist. His passion extending to the other universes in that moment makes sense. But I agree this is a great alternative ending.
@hikari275221 күн бұрын
I like this ending more than how the Tournament of Power ended in the anime and manga because the canon ending is the protagonists won. It's good to see the main antagonist (Jiren) win and the protagonists get erased but the main antagonist is also the one who will revive them and all the erased universes because of character development and change of heart. If this really is how the Universe Survival Saga ended, then it will be the first Saga which that same Saga's main antagonist is the one who became the hero who saved the Universe 7 and to some extent, all universes instead of the main protagonist or one of his friends doing it.
@lamontaepoke7411Ай бұрын
I can definitely approve of this ending like the people that goku encounter like hit & Jiren, goku really just leaves an impression
@PlayingWithMahWii7 күн бұрын
I'm so glad all of these ToP What-If's end with the wish being "Restore all the erased universes." It really is the right wish to make.
@LaughnCry2725 күн бұрын
Thank you for uploading these what if battles! ❤
@jscordoba3Ай бұрын
So many of these what ifs are better than the anime
@ctpp64Ай бұрын
jiren seems more talkative and focused on justice here compared to the anime
@JosephShemelewskiАй бұрын
I actually think I like this ending more than the original
@Tjcent6475Ай бұрын
Krillin would’ve had another death count 😂
@Thedragonlover9525 күн бұрын
So in the end, they still win. Good that things worked out
@cachorodovizinhodojoaquim6945Ай бұрын
Was it just me or was jiren's fights really hard? Don't get me wrong im not complaining, it should be hard by all means but man call me trunks cuz i have android PTSD now
@ashleylightheart12620 күн бұрын
I love they kept Vegeta's 48 mins speech.
@GhoullyXXАй бұрын
I did not expect to here a Zero Wing quote come out of Jiren's mouth at 13:24
@michaelfyall3188Ай бұрын
Jiren is a beast 😈😈😈😈
@tayktiggzАй бұрын
fuck this every time I try I always lose and get the canon ending
@jpg_visionКүн бұрын
Jiren told Vegeta his hood must be soft if he’s this strong 🤣
@HappyPotatАй бұрын
All it took to make Jiren a cool character.
@devinstyles945Ай бұрын
This is the ending we should’ve gotten.
@vigothecatplay423426 күн бұрын
Jiren is one of the characters who actually deserved a win
@Heracross-iq2cxАй бұрын
This should have been cannon
@micaelyt9873Ай бұрын
I prefer this ending than the original
@LegendaryHeroponRikiАй бұрын
goku doesnt care that all his friends and family are getting erased and himself but just wants to fight jiren again
@Robotama-k7m20 күн бұрын
Every god of destruction are sad 😔 for goku and Frieza deaths
@yungog2o3Ай бұрын
I think Zeno said he would destroy everything if someone wished for anything else other than restoring all universes that were erased
@noha7ersАй бұрын
Damn Roshi got hands
@AstartofthepizzaempireАй бұрын
A other Possible ending is that Jiren is him wishing to revive his family
@aRandomFox00Ай бұрын
Canonically, on the surface this entire tournament of power seems like it was just for Zen-oh's entertainment, but in truth it was a test. All the participating universes were actually already condemned from the start. The purpose of the tournament was to see what would the most powerful mortal in all 7 universes wish for if they had the chance to wish for literally anything. You don't become that strong by being content with a quiet life - instead you're constantly pushing yourself, chasing ever greater heights in pursuit of some higher ambition. So if the most ambitious person in 7 universes was given the opportunity to have any wish granted, what would they wish for? If it was a selfless wish, Zen-oh was going to give all the universes a 2nd chance to get their shit together. But if it was a selfish wish, he was going to go ahead and erase all 7 anyway.
@brainmusician6446Ай бұрын
sometimes animations are kind of weird, specialiy the ones that are to close of the character face xD
@DamontheDemon717 күн бұрын
So wait… Jiren has his own Episode battle(s)? When did this happen?
@UcanthandlethesegamesАй бұрын
The AI's aren't even fighting back😂😂😂. But not a bad what if
@XeSHShadow90Ай бұрын
wait how do you get this now? i dont have jiren as playable in episodes
@HyperShadow99123 күн бұрын
arguably a better ending for the tournament in the anime right here, jiren actually develops a bit
@haiphuc804925 күн бұрын
Jiren no longer an anti-hero He is a true hero with no more vengeance in his heart 😢
@ZodokiEspardaАй бұрын
Seeing as this would be an ending in line with the typical gomu journey aka find strong dude and become stronger than said dude i prefer this ending
@farot4594Ай бұрын
No way Jiren would restore the universes when he had a set wish
@manishv981622 күн бұрын
I have cosplayed Android 17 at Comic Con he he
@isleofredemptionАй бұрын
I don’t understand. I never will. All of Dragonball: “We have to get stronger so this villain won’t kill us!” Jiren: “This villain in my world killed everyone I ever cared about- I need to be the strongest so it never happens again.” All of Dragonball: “JIREN YOU ARE WRONG”
@commonbridge473527 күн бұрын
The lesson is that Jiren shouldn't/doesn't need to compromise himself from forming and maintaining relationships with others in the pursuit of power. The issue was never Jiren getting stronger in general. A typical friendship is magic teamwork makes the dream work moral
@nailigniststarzear6689Ай бұрын
this what if make me wonder again.... If I remember correctly... Zeno plan to set zero everything if wish is anything but "all erased universe to be restore" right? so how many in all fighter will make that wish..... chance of everything go to zero seem to be ridiculous high😂
@goodbro2046Ай бұрын
If Jiren had won he get jumped by 17, Freezer and Goku...
@songuilhermeАй бұрын
I think if it was in the original it would be like this
@kevinescobar3704 күн бұрын
That post nut clarity hits hard
@DanteYT-cp5zjАй бұрын
Ngl i thought jiren was gonna say something else tp the super dragon balls then there universe would have been erased too
@gerardorodriguez7500Ай бұрын
I wish they make a Garlic Jr arc DLC with Maron (Krillin’s ex-girlfriend)
@Neo-R.21 күн бұрын
This game needs some more DLC characters
@gerardorodriguez750021 күн бұрын
@@Neo-R. I agree especially Turles’ team and Lord Slug’s Team
@Neo-R.21 күн бұрын
@@gerardorodriguez7500 The pretty one. The stupid one. The one with ewird powers😁😁Also we need Pikkon, Olibu and some others.
@GodOfNightmareАй бұрын
I knew that was gonna happen
@lolyboy4509Ай бұрын
Mine only gives the animation of goku trying to deflect the attack and all but not the super shenron scene, and there's another ending i can't get in the what if
@Sly2Smooth1326Ай бұрын
Prolly the hardest story line in the Game took me hours to complete 🤦🏾♂️
@tiredkai673921 күн бұрын
"Peas and carrots"
@LKC1102-b6lАй бұрын
Jiren vs Roshi is foul 🤣
@95nishanthАй бұрын
they should have stayed true to the lore and made flying an impossibility in TOP
@dogestranding5047Ай бұрын
I thought they called Toppo “Top” in the dubbed version. Toppo sounds way better though.
@RJALEXANDER777Ай бұрын
Top is the more accurate translation if you want to be strict about word accuracy, however good translation isn't always about being literal, nuance can be lost by translation being too literal and strict. Toppo is just better for this reason.
@pathtoknowledge6847Ай бұрын
I struggle with this battle if anyone knows a tip please help jiren vs others
@SwabySean1Ай бұрын
I get goku to a low health after that.I can no longer punch him or do anything to him.He becomes unstoppable and then he beats me
@DownhollowficationАй бұрын
Uh what if jiren won they did win the tournament of power in the manga version if im not mistaken
@brandoncampbell28Ай бұрын
So they would both choose the same thing....😑
@angelquirozreales4339Ай бұрын
8:45 spends too much time with toppo
@tnias.3ohАй бұрын
Master roshi was on his 🍑. 😂
@malikoniousjoeАй бұрын
Jiren is so lame, but god damn do I love hearing Patrick Seitz
@MolikyuАй бұрын
I respect your opinion but why don't you like jiren 😅
@FightClass3Ай бұрын
@@Molikyu Because Jiren is stronger than his favorite character.
@uroskesic6117Ай бұрын
He is best known for his Dio role
@malikoniousjoeАй бұрын
@@uroskesic6117 That’s an absolute lie haha Patrick has been known for longer and way earlier than his Dio role. Dude has been in multiple Armored Cores, Blazblue, and other anime like Redline. He’s a great Dio, but it certainly isn’t his breakout role
@mrtree1368Ай бұрын
Jiren did beat goku anyways
@bestwolrdАй бұрын
How can I do for many of power I can’t find it
@SwabySean1Ай бұрын
I just found that i'm just not good with Jiren at all.
@BuggzyBXАй бұрын
lame, they didn't even make the other pride troopers show up.
@legion566Ай бұрын
How are they flying
@thewarnin7307Ай бұрын
L O G I C
@CamYah1Ай бұрын
Much better ending
@Omun92Ай бұрын
I cant unlock this story i played all jirens episodss
@KL-ed4fq21 күн бұрын
Peas and carrots
@ankur29Ай бұрын
have they just repolished xenoverse 2 in this game?
@Orion0820Ай бұрын
I CANT FUCKING BEAT UI GOKU PLEASE SOMEONE HELP
@vinceabbott5438Ай бұрын
Took me a while, but I eventually beat him. I tried to keep enough ki to meditate for an extra health bar and also using the terrain to charge ki can be very helpful. That along with spamming counters and follow up attacks with a hearty dose of luck got me the win. Frieza and 17 arent shit after you beat UI Goku so once you beat him u good.
@ReapeRayneАй бұрын
then they would have to start all over again when the wish was poorly made have you not seen the damn anime cmon pay attention why dont ya
@NexsustheproАй бұрын
shouldve been a bad ending.
@MentaAzulАй бұрын
There's already a bad ending too
@SemkirSemkir-o1f13 күн бұрын
Goku was better!!!!
@NoBodyNoCrime758Ай бұрын
well that was lame
@commentstealer4460Ай бұрын
What
@ChibamiKarimАй бұрын
Huh?
@vinceabbott5438Ай бұрын
How the hell do you get this ending? After Goku vanished it just returned me to the episode selection screen
@danyboyjo139413 күн бұрын
This fight is dum and anoing. To play cant do nothing vs the cpu