Incel Science's CREEPY New Grift...

[@BinaBecker]

"Snuggle-struggle" is the grossest term for date rape I've ever heard.

[@BlueTyphoon2017]

Holy fuck that’s an actual term people use?!

[@ometta7]

​@@BlueTyphoon2017I've only ever heard it being used in the context of shock humor, but yeah that's a real term.

[@SuperVaIle]

Oh wow, that's what we call it when one of us has to hold our semi reluctant dog in our lap to keep them from doing a specific behavior for a time. Like "I'll give [the corgi] some struggle-snuggles while you get your coats on so he doesn't crowd around your feet and gets trampled", meaning he'll struggle to get free a little because he's excited for a walk.

[@overtonbp1]

The reason that term got used so widely is because of censorship

[@cyberinsecuregaming2890]

Yeah, I've heard KZbinrs use that instead of rape in order to keep their videos monetized.

[@nerium.nerium]

About 5 min into the vid, and as a lady who likes men, I think the photos are also not objective from a scientific sense because they are all wearing different expressions, in different angles and lighting. The perceived *demeanor* of someone can make a HUGE difference in how "attractive" they are to someone. This just proves that attractiveness is subjective and NOT objective like the incels believe. Edit: And Xan a few seconds later said basically the same thing as me. You're a good one, Xan. ❤

[@nienkehuijbens301]

Yeah most of them were pretty awkward looking photo's. Only a small minority is smiling and looking friendly, everyone else gives off angry vibes

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

​@nienkehuijbens301 I think these photos are valid and also represent the person they're. They look the way they sell themselves to the world, and that's how they are judged more realistically

[@nini3076]

Youre getting it wrong. Its not that looks are subjective. Its that different types of the same attractiveness is subjective.

[@painunending4610]

​@@nienkehuijbens301 if an attractive enough man gives off angry vibes some women will look past it if an ugly man smiles and looks happy, people do not like it Take it from an ugly man, people do not like seeing me happy because it upsets the status quo (not that anyone will listen) Besides people look more attractive when they're not smiling, it's more natural

[@LilSadge-w5d]

attractiveness is subjective mfers when they are on a blind date with gorlock the destroyer :🤮

[@BinaBecker]

"You're not allowed to approach women anymore" is a funny way of saying that YOU are the stranger-danger.

[@zerodollarbird]

For these guys in particular, yes, but I wouldn't say that's specifically their issue only. It's hard to approach women in general without seeming creepy for a whole litany of reasons, everything from the increasing atomization of society due to capitalism to the epidemic of sexual violence. A LOT of factors make "every masc presenting person is a potential threat" an incredibly understandable position.

[@Blargle42069]

@@zerodollarbird as some who was born a girl, mad agree. I was basically taught to have my guard up at all times in public and this combined with other traumas and being a lesbian, ultimately amounted to a pretty big fear of men.

[@zerodollarbird]

@@Blargle42069 As someone who is strongly masc presenting (I'm nonbinary), i make active efforts to be as unobtrusive and nonthreatening as possible so that I don't freak femme people out. Some people i know think it's weird that I almost never talk to femme people and make an active effort to be as nothing as possible, but if it puts people who are subjected to way too much by just existing at ease, it helps me sleep better.

[@ravivandersalm4586]

nah that is psycho shit. If this was in some dark alley sure. But this is in broad daylight in a busy campus. Perfectly fine@@zerodollarbird

[@painunending4610]

All women are suspicious of all men. This makes any kind of engagement with them more difficult as you have to navigate that

[@johndaniel6443]

he doesn't go to the university, but was occupying the campus to film and hound students,..... of course he was asked to leave. do one weirdo

[@elmoworld850]

And the questions that those dudes ask random people, ughhhh! Yet they still wonder why women don't want to date them.

[@KyrosTheWolf]

I'm a guy and hate being stopped on the street by these people. I remember when I was on holiday in Sydney Australia, as I was walking down the street some random guy stopped me, shoved a phone camera in my face and said something like "Scuse me, what was your biggest secret you haven't told your girlfriend" or something. I can't remember what I said, probably "I dunno" and quickly walked away not wanting to make a scene. I could hear him shouting after me though, can't remember what he said

[@ecos889]

I never encountered people like this in the UK but have encountered like charity and sales people, the trick is headphones and to never look them in the eyes, they are as far as I am concerned shadows of no importance.

[@KyrosTheWolf]

@@ecos889 Yea there's been times I seen like sales stalls on the street where they walk up to random people passing by, like the barnacles (I think thats their name) in Half Life. I just pretend I'm talking to someone on my phone while walking by them

[@Remedy462]

"That she is my girlfriend." And just walk away lol.

[@koivunen2489]

@@KyrosTheWolf yelling something like: "I'm already late!" while hurrying past them works for me. ...probably 'cause, very likely, I am running late, lol.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

​@@Remedy462The stalking grindset

[@mvo9856]

On the topic of "women have types": I once had a roommate come into the house after talking to the guy she hired to do some yard work and she was *squealing*, "Oh my God that guy is SOOOO HOOOOT!!!!" I looked out the window at the guy and I was baffled. He just looked like a thick guy with a normal face to me. He had the kinda build where he might have muscles under the fat and be really strong but he also might just be fat, you can't really tell. I am not attracted to men, so I was especially confused. Guys: Just because you're not conventionally attractive doesn't mean you're not somebody's type. For all you know, there are women out there that would run inside to squeal to their roommate about you.

[@thebeaverpope3538]

Thank you for sharing that

[@painunending4610]

Weird that in 25 years I've never been someone's type

[@LilSadge-w5d]

I dont think Ive had a woman scream about how good looking I was. I feel like if that was true it'd reflect on dating apps.

[@mvo9856]

@@painunending4610 You literally cannot know that because you can't read people's minds. The point of my story isn't just that my roommate thought that guy was so hot she was squealing about it; it's also that *she never told him she felt that way.*

[@painunending4610]

@@mvo9856 So I'm supposed to believe that I've been someone's type based on zero evidence? Sorry but how do you do that? I can't do blind faith tbh

[@alexs1954]

“I like saying hi to strangers” That is the most cinnamon bun thing I’ve ever heard you say Xan.

[@OpheliaTerat]

That first girl seriously can't understand that a woman could just like that style of clothing and not want to change her fashion style for a man? Also I really wonder how that guy was acting off camera or in cut clips if security was called on him. The fact that he shows he records the girls he approaches with a hidden camera first is creepy. Did he even ask that tall girl for permission to put her in a video?

[@klausd.6285]

That or changing anything for your man. What she said could literally be flipped a around. Well, if your man respects you, then he should be okay with how YOU want to dress. It's your body, not his. The idea that you have to do what your man says because it's "respectful" is just saying that he owns you and is the only one allowed to make decisions on your body. These people forget, respect goes both ways. Yet they never talk about how a man should respect a woman, only how women should respect them.

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

The first girl seriously sounds like she was paid to be there. Or she was raised in a religious family who told her she's there to obey men.

[@BinaBecker]

You can't convince me that any of those incel streeter videos aren't staged. That first one, in particular, just seems wayyyyyy too convenient.

[@BinaBecker]

And that second one is just pathetic.

[@Rennar3210]

If you talk to enough people you can generally get somebody to say whatever you're looking for. You can just cut the rest

[@cardboardking577]

What tf happened to "don't believe everything you see online" With the rise of ai voice cloning and editing becoming more accessible it's becoming especially important to be suspicious of what you see but it's declining year by year

[@johndaniel6443]

he's also broken the law by uploading the video... she's declined to be filmed, yet she's been broadcast to the whole world.... that's a no-no

[@khill8645]

Filming in public (specifically, where people do not have "a reasonable expectation of privacy") is not illegal. If someone declines to be filmed, continuing to film them _may_ constitute harassment (depending on how it's done), but it doesn't make the entirety of that material illegal to broadcast/use.

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

@@khill8645 Filming crowds is considered public filming, but filming an individual is not.

[@johndaniel6443]

@@khill8645 But it's not necessarily a "public space" its a university.

[@khill8645]

@@johndaniel6443 Which is precisely why I added the parenthetical disambiguation, to make that exact differentiation. Could you imagine the absolute chaos it'd wreak if every time someone wanted to post a video they took at a football game, it required the explicit consent of everyone in the video?

[@FictitiousCtrlGames]

​@@khill8645depends on the state. Some states you have to blur faces legally.

[@wilhelmkreis6578]

If you have to ask a woman whether or not it's insecure to want to control how your partner dresses, then you are both wildly insecure and have no self awareness.

[@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716]

I am still absolutely living for that one girl saying "you're too ugly to be asking those kinds of questions" to a (frankly) unattractive man in a pink polo who was pointedly asking women what their body count was among other redpill questions.

[@zacharylacore2905]

@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716 link?

[@tc-tm1my]

Please link.

[@nini3076]

Why are you excluding him from asking these questions because he is ugly? Shouldnt it matter more what he has to say and what his personality is?

[@imanibeckett6393]

⁠@@Gilgamesh-of6bjI feel like all these conversations have a lot more nuance to them, but I think it’s a bad generalization to make that women typically care about looks when we know that’s not true, but I agree there’s no need to insult someone who is trying to interview you

[@jasebaz9941]

​@@imanibeckett6393"It's a bad generalisation to make that women typically care about looks when we know that's not true" Without a doubt the most nonsensical load of cope I've ever read in my life

[@shivendetta3801]

I have had MEN tell me I was lying about prefering stocky short dudes (especially gamer boys ). I found it hilarious that men were arguing with me who I would like to date. Like sir, how would you know what I prefer. Incels scare me.

[@joeydoherty368]

Lol my mom would always say the same thing about preferring short stocky dudes. I’m an average height skinny guy though so it didn’t necessarily make me feel better.😳

[@resonancetides7196]

Don't think about them too much, this incels deserve to be virgins.

[@DevvuInTheDetails]

Hannibal Lecter said it best: "Different people have different tastes."

[@kaelell4697]

trumps best friend

[@DannyDeee]

I just watched a video posted recently about guys quiet "quitting women", and it just spewed every incel-cliche possible, from metoo, to hugging. And it REALLY played into the fear of being fired from your job. That's the tactic they use. Fear of rejection, and fear of losing your job. The latter would be relevant to discussion about workers rights and unions, but that's not what these video essayist wants. They only care about workers rights as much as it lets them dunk on women. Anyway, about that video, it strucked me as the type of content every future mass shooter consume before they walk off the edge...

[@uncleunicode7871]

Honestly I wont deny that there are some things appearance wise that definitely hurt your chances with women but theyre are all relatively easy and cheap to fix. Relatively unchangeable things like height are in my experience not that impactful when it comes to dating.

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

Height is not everything, but you have to pay a great price for the lack of it

[@Puzzles-Pins]

It is on Tinder apparently lol. But irl works very differently. Saw an incel arguing if aren't 6'4 you have no chance as a male. In spite of the large amount of real life evidence to the contrary.

[@TimeLord675]

@@Gilgamesh-of6bj Nah, short men still get shafted.

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

@Gilgamesh-of6bj I don't think it's acceptance, but rather the willingness to settle down for less since there aren't enough tall people for everybody.

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

@@Gilgamesh-of6bj it's their choices of course, but people still deserve sympathy if they're being abused. It's not our, nor their fault that they're not attracted to short guys

[@philospher77]

What people don’t seem to take into account is that people that you like become more attractive over time, and people you don’t like become less attractive over time. So yes, if you ask me “how attractive is this guy” I will rank them according to some objective scale, but if you ask me how attractive “this particular guy I know is”…. That’s going to depend more on how much I like him, and he may wind up higher or lower than he would be as a stranger just being rated on mere physical attraction.

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

I don't think the majority of people (both men and women included) have time to waste with hundreds of members of the opposite sex just to see if they're internally attractive enough to date them

[@torphedo6286]

@@nurtaytulegenov7431 Yeah, that's why so many relationships start from friendships. It's way easier to start dating someone you find attractive and already know is a good person.

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

@torphedo6286 I don't think transition to relationships from a friendship is a good idea. Especially if you have lots of common friends. The results of conflicts in the relationships or even breakups can ruin the vibe in the group or worse. I think it's better to keep relationships and friendships in separate boxes

[@SilverDragonJay]

@@nurtaytulegenov7431 how about instead of viewing it as "wasted time" you view it as time spent meeting new and interesting people, possibly developing platonic friendships and if not, just enjoying the time you spend with people irl? You're handicapping yourself with this defeatist, all or nothing attitude. Romantic relationships are not the only thing you need.

[@nurtaytulegenov7431]

@@SilverDragonJay I don't think I am the one handicapped or seeing world in doom or gloom way. I have enough friends and acquaintances, but they have their own purpose which I don't like to mix. I prefer having people with an exact functionality whether this person is barista to joke with in the morning, collegue to smoke with on breaks or friends to play dnd or sports.

[@epifloyd7357]

British university campuses are not public land. Public access is usually granted (not always), but is conditional and security have the right to remove you for any reason (within law - for example they cannot discriminate based on protected characteristics). You absolutely cannot just approach random people on the campus like this: even students and researchers would require permission from the university to do so. What an idiot. On another note, I need to find out more about this safety app, make sure that the uni I teach at has something similar for the students, because that sounds like a good idea!

[@johnwayne5365]

As someone who’s had to record interviews with strangers as part of their University’s TV program, here’s some advice: NEVER turn the camera on unless you get their permission.

[@frillydoomsday8973]

Im from the deep south and two minutes into this video its like... He uses short shorts as an example of immodest dressing not fit for women to wear in relationships.. Mississippi is hot, my guy. You can come down here and find the most purity culture minded woman whose a devout christian and never had sex outside of marriage if you try and take our daisy dukes... We're gonna have a problem.

[@frillydoomsday8973]

Just pisses me off because these same people take pressuring women into dressing modestly as a way to slander (mainly middle eastern) cultures.. but it's okay when they do it because?.. because. Yeah.

[@elmoworld850]

​@frillydoomsday8973 Also, what I don't get is what is the point of demanding that your girlfriend cover up when you could have cuffed a girl who was already modest from the start?

[@cosmictraveler1146]

Man i remember yahoo answers when I was bored and sad and read the craziest answers to laugh But a major character flaw (as a man myself) I struggle to emphasize with incels, I can’t get with the self pity and lack of drive to improve themselves

[@painunending4610]

What make you think they haven't self-improved Why do you believe that self-improvement= women will be attracted to you I self-improved for years. It was highly beneficial to me personally, but women didn't notice or care. Why would they get with an ugly guy who self-improved versus an attractive guy who self-improved?

[@Blargle42069]

@@painunending4610 have you considered self improvement purely for the sake of your own happiness and well-being and not just to get laid? I swear there’s more to life that’s awesome and beautiful and worth living for than just getting pussy, like eating a really good burger!

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

There's a reason you have to get permits to do documentaries and shit in public places. People REALLY don't like being filmed and bugged for other's entertainment, regardless of what you're doing it for.

[@alexkidd3d]

....I'm incredibly distracted that all his letter 't's are little men

[@nyastalgiakitten]

It'd be endearing if he wasn't an incel grifter

[@mr.anthonygonzales]

I would say I am a pretty handsome guy but the main reason I get into relationships is by being funny and sharing interests with people Getting into relationships is one thing but maintaining them is a whole other thing, the best advice is just being honest and keeping good communication I'm also a femboy so that helps

[@mr.anthonygonzales]

@slow-adhesiveness-4933 I don't want to say that making friends is too easy because I have problems with it too, the main thing is getting over social anxiety and talking to people yeah some people will be weirded out by it but that's fine there's other people who will engage in conversation with you Even if you aren't the best looking, there are things you can do to be more attractive to women such as being funny, having good clothing style, being confident, maintaining good hygiene, etc I don't live in an area that is very socially accepting I mean it's not as bad as other places but I still get dirty looks and stuff I just don't let the opinions of others dictate my life I'm not trying to say it's super easy to get over insecurity and everything but you'll never get anywhere if you don't try

[@GwynC]

​@@slow-adhesiveness-4933Just gotta question your motives for bringing it up at all.

[@painunending4610]

​@@mr.anthonygonzales I'm funny, have a great style, am confident, and practice good personal hygiene No woman's ever been attracted to me. I'm 25 and haven't had my first kiss Your experience isn't universal

[@forodinssake9570]

Literally every girl I pulled I pulled by ranting about dinosaurs and history and they just kinda asked me out, and I'm not exactly the canon of male beauty

[@jacobnoelle8428]

I guess women like dinosaurs?

[@forodinssake9570]

@@jacobnoelle8428 chicks love Tyrannosaurus Rex

[@jasebaz9941]

I would bet money that you are 100% above average looking

[@forodinssake9570]

@@jasebaz9941 im flattered brother but I don't think so tbh

[@jasebaz9941]

​​​@@forodinssake9570 I hate to break it to you bro but no girl is going to sit and listen to you rant about Tyrannosaurus rex's unless she finds you incredibly physically attractive 😂

[@Beojkkoch_Capybara]

Always watch one of these videos as I eat, this was literally perfect timing 😊

[@azazel166]

Won't lie, the redhead is kind of tasty, though the creepy behavior is off putting. Appearances are important, but so are personalities, and he's not doing so well on the latter. And here I am, a gay man who never dated before giving dating advice, how I've fallen...

[@AnthonyMorris-pg9xj]

For most of my dating history, I've dated men and women who were higher up the attractiveness scale than I was. Positive personality is an equalizer.

[@jasebaz9941]

Personality is an equaliser if you're a 6 talking to a 7. It won't amount to shit if you're a 3 talking to a 7. In fact chances are if you're a 3, you won't even get to speak to most women anyway because you'll just repel them with your subhuman face

[@painunending4610]

And your experience is universal of course. No one else's experiences matter

[@LilSadge-w5d]

"dated" and as a woman its not hard to date someone better looking than you. That's usually how it is.

[@awkwardukulele6077]

@@LilSadge-w5dhis name is Anthony, my man. Why’d you assume he was a girl?

[@LilSadge-w5d]

might be ftm who knows these days lol@@awkwardukulele6077

[@mogscugg2639]

bro is the first incel to experience natural sunlight

[@ComicXanz]

Ironically, wheat looks pretty attractive. It seems like most incels have bad self esteem issues. I think it comes from bullying in youth.

[@jasebaz9941]

Bro thinks he's being quirky and making an original comment

[@mogscugg2639]

@@jasebaz9941 New quest: leave moms house

[@LilSadge-w5d]

new quest: get laid without paying and drunk girls dont count @@mogscugg2639

[@resonancetides7196]

​@@jasebaz9941you're next quest: go touch some grass, virgin.

[@andydee1304]

It's all about how you present yourself. Not many people are going to be attracted to someone who clearly doesn't make any effort in their appearance, regardless of gender or sexuality. Think of the person you find most attractive. Would you still be as attracted if they slouched, smelled and didn't keep themselves presentable?

[@ComicXanz]

I’m a pretty “ugly” guy. I still have successful relationships, it’s all about self esteem and confidence. Good grooming, habits, etc.

[@andydee1304]

@@ComicXanz I imagine your success in relationships is down to you treating people like human beings, too.

[@tappajavittu]

I look like a hobo but still get laid without a problem. It's all in the personality, yo!

[@Wiz00445]

I feel like a lot of the incel dudes have good hair/beard genetics but just a hair/beardstyle that doesnt fit their face or head shape.

[@nini3076]

Youre confusing necessities with benefits

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

Also, I love the implication that back in Victorian England you could just go around asking random women out in public.

[@albe8479]

Props to the school to have kick out the creepy grifter. Someone should remind this guys that the spots on the daily wire are limited

[@l.t.c3847]

The response to this guy’s debate with vaush tells you all you ever need to know about this guy and his community. And really the comments on any of his videos. He’s good at burying his dog whistles to a degree, his target audience are NOT.

[@BinaBecker]

Who's "this guy", what debate, and what are the "dog whistles" of which you speak? Inquiring minds, etc.

[@ravivandersalm4586]

omg I really thought I was the only sane guy here.

[@buttzlol]

Skitzo post?

[@awkwardukulele6077]

Normally I’m not anti pronoun, but who do mean “he?” Do you mean the Incel guy? Do you mean Xanderhal, the KZbinr who made this video? Do you mean someone else? Please be specific Edit: nvm, another commenter mentioned that the Incel guy had a debate with Vaush, so that’s likely who OP meant.

[@spiculicious]

i get made fun of for "liking ugly men" "you're so beautiful you deserve better" "why are you not dating that hot guy that likes you" "why is it ugly men". but they're not ugly at all tbh. humans just suck. but i am demisexual demiromantic, so........idk. lol

[@ComicXanz]

Humans are weird. We are the only species who shamed others for insignificant things.

[@resonancetides7196]

- demisexual demiromantic 🤡🤡

[@tc-tm1my]

These girls are rating based on looks only, not interaction. I guarantee you they'd change their rank after interacting with them. These girls don't deserve criticism for literally doing what every guy does to women.

[@fenryrent9544]

Yes, they do. W***en don't like average men. They want chad.

[@jasebaz9941]

Cope

[@awkwardukulele6077]

@@jasebaz9941uno reverse

[@resonancetides7196]

​@@jasebaz9941incel detected, opinion rejected.

[@brogan_live8537]

The very first girl I KNEW she was from South Africa, for some reason we get a lot of South African that visit our town for conventions etc. They have such a snobbish accents and every single one I’ve waited on has had something racist they just HAD to tell me

[@LizStaples]

This guy not being a student but thinking he gets to use the College Campus this way is ridiculously entitled. Frankly if he was in US campus security would have been on him way faster for not having a permit, though they are permissive if someone gets a permit (Steven Crowder meme format was from my college campus after I graduated if I had been there I would have thrown a milkshake on him)

[@chocodoco4855]

Goes around with a sign on campus, gets expelled, later whines about on video and has heterochromia... IS THIS DUDE DOING A CHRIS CHAN SPEEDRUN???

[@MementoMortis21]

At 32, I've long since resigned myself that a relationship just isn't in the cards for me, with my terrible luck at even getting a date since I was 15. But instead of assholes like these incels giving the whole rest of us a bad name with their misogyny, I've just been using my time and energy towards the hobbies and interests I really enjoy in life.

[@dorino9057]

Be open minded you never know in the future especially if you’re joining activities and meeting people who have genuine things in common with.

[@coyoteduster8919]

don't blame incels, blame the simps

[@nini3076]

Its not your luck bro

[@masterlee1988]

@@coyoteduster8919 Yeah the simps ruined everything.

[@mayowa60]

lol. he wasn't expelled. he was just removed from the uni as he wasn't enrolled in it

[@gennix404]

How could I have literally been dumped for not being big enough and still not hate women at all unlike these mfs 😂

[@claraw7976]

To be honest, most of the guys they had to rate looked completely normal to me. None of them were super model material, but most women arn't either, including me. Two of them looked a bit creepy, in my personal opinion, but that's it. If they can't get a date it is 100% their personality that's the problem.

[@jasebaz9941]

"Two of them looked a bit creepy, but if they can't get a date it is 100% their personality that's the problem" Literally a direct contradiction. Gaslighting at it's finest

[@thoonk5160]

I love how you call them “creepy looking” define creepy looking, in what way does someone’s appearance indicate that they would exhibit creepy behaviour. Oh but I’m sure it’s totally just their personalities keeping them from getting dates and not the thing you literally called them creepy for Fuck you and fuck everybody in this comment section who have never lived in the shoes of an ugly person

[@LilSadge-w5d]

How do you know their personality from a photo? Just LOL at the female meme gender Comments like these are why I'm pro- war.

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

@@thoonk5160based asf

[@N800-q1b]

average female intelligence

[@j.e1334]

Dude looks like Carrot Top.

[@EmmaSpAce111]

If a dude came up and asked me to take out my headphones I would instantly be irritated tbh

[@birdy-black]

Just take showers and don't be abusive, that simple

[@nyastalgiakitten]

For real, I don't think I'm attractive and I'm socially awkward and yet I've been dating since 15, 19 now and been dating my boyfriend for nearly 2 years

[@-kurow-7113]

To be fair the second isn't that easy since they don't view themselves as abusive and sometimes have socially conservative views on what is and isn't abuse.

[@birdy-black]

@@-kurow-7113 to be fair, that is not women's problem. Abusive men are dangerous, and danger is genuinely unattractive when it's not something fun or daring. Abusive people are tragically undatable, they should go to therapy and stop being Nazis. Fascists shouldn't feel the softness of a woman.

[@BinaBecker]

And also, don't ambush random women on the street. (That part should go without saying, but some guys need to hear it in shoutycaps.)

[@nyastalgiakitten]

@@-kurow-7113 that's too bad for them then, they might not think they're abusive but if people tell them they are and they refuse to listen then they deserve to be alone

[@ELM-ee8bt]

I'm a prime example of a woman with a none mainstream taste in men. I love bald men with well trimmed beards. I was obsessed with Kratos from GOW growing up and I'm not a gamer... 😅

[@dvd.s4631]

Wow, he finally went outside and touched grass……but missed the point in doing so….

[@Malignantt1]

That preview pissed me tf off wtf was that 💀

[@mrheisenberg83]

I hate that he acts like those sales people in pedestrian zones. They always motion for me to take my headphones off and I always tell them "No. And if you want to talk to get me someone who is not a half naked woman in her 20s, please. I can't take this manipulative shit seriously." I swear for a year straight they only used young women who did not wear pants for these jobs. And the worst part is that they always try again when I walk back. If I have to pass 3 times a day I get angry about this because they always see me trying to avoid them and go out of their way to try to talk to me. Sometimes I even yell at them if they piss me off enough, though that is quite rare tbh. I hate it so much. Leave me the fuck alone, I have shit to do! Can't even imagine how hard it is for women to have to endure this shit daily with dudes constantly barraging them for sex.

[@Theendgamelv3]

There has to be more to this than just him being reported and being expelled. With how popular KZbin is and it being a college campus, I doubt it is uncommon to see some students going around making videos and even asking other students to be in them. I think either this guy was not accepting no and it was off camera or some students found out about this guy's channel, didn't like his incel content and decided the next time he was making a video, decided to report him for harassment. The punishment doesn't fit the crime as there has to be some proof he was doing more than just asking nicely. The campus would just probably suspend him or at the very least not allow him to make videos on campus if he was just simply asking.

[@craniumssuperburger7749]

Wheat Waffles looks like the type of guy you'd run into at Tops Friendly Market's Supermarket in the East Side Neighborhood in Buffalo New York before mysteriously ceasing to breath.

[@bobhoskins2550]

really distasteful attempt at humor. you should apologize.

[@craniumssuperburger7749]

@@bobhoskins2550 It's distasteful until you remember the monster I'm referring to's manifesto was dipped in the same sexual insecurities Wheat Douchebag is feeding to his audience of impressionable teenagers. This is not am attempt at humor, I'm insulting WW because I hate him for what he's doing. My apologies are reserved for people who deserve them.

[@t.fwingproductions3636]

I’m honestly failing to see this is harassment? Like if he were following women around after they declined to interview that’d be harassment, but it looks like he just moves on?

[@IsaiahBuchanan175]

he stepped in fount of them to stop them

[@joshuam.2917]

​@@IsaiahBuchanan175Either way, that wouldn't and shouldn't count as harassment, especially since he left them alone and went about his buisiness immediately after being denied an interview. Can you imagine living in a world where the simple act of approaching someone in public (man or woman) for the sake of chatting was a punishable offense by law? Sure some may find the interaction annoying, especially if they're in a rush, however, doesn't this whole dynamic of not chatting with strangers for the sole purpose of asking a question seem a little dystopian to you?

[@IsaiahBuchanan175]

@@joshuam.2917 does standing in fount of someone physically stop them?

[@joshuam.2917]

@@IsaiahBuchanan175 Is standing in front of someone illegal?

[@IsaiahBuchanan175]

@@joshuam.2917 no but that does mean it is right

[@Mylittlestcorner]

Honestly, as a panromantic fem, I'd rate like,,, 90% of these dudes friend zone just because I overall want to date other fem humans. I like the gals, just how it is. And things like genderattaction are never taken into account with incels

[@Blargle42069]

LITERALLY THOUGH, they always forget that sapphic women and fems exist and it’s so annoying.

[@Mylittlestcorner]

@@InTheShadowsOfOnesAndZeros but I'm not?? I'm into ciswomen, nonbinary people, and trans people. I'm fine with male genitals just not cis straight dudes. They're socialized in ways that make me uncomfortable and uninterested.

[@incel17]

@@Mylittlestcorner So sexist lesbian, pf

[@dperk6419]

It's creepy how much he looks like justpearlythings...

[@GODhandCooper]

I live in arizona and there was an add for Gwen shabibo's daily wire snow white movie on this vid, I hate this. They literally put turning point and other repube ads on political content I watch, it's insane.

[@paulteller7604]

One of my friends is ginger mf looks pale like a vampire lmao

[@BinaBecker]

Speaking as a natural redhead, it goes with the territory. (Being pale, I mean. We're not actually vampires.)

[@ometta7]

​@@BinaBeckerWe're *not* vampires? Shit, then I have a lot of exsanguinated sex workers to answer for.

[@RiotKurhein]

Something that I notice doesn't get mentioned when tslking about moving out of one's parent's home, from growing up in the 90's; is that people often already have a partner (either from high-school or college) before moving out. Am I mistaken about that?

[@dreamboigameplayz7207]

3:45 L College Kid. Like who does that? I'm not trying to bring hate but I want to say that college IS a place to reflect on your opinions and beliefs as well as get educated on those topics, that's why college IS a safe place and conservatives, whatever the beliefs of the right wing may be are so divided that their own party hates each other. They also hate college, unironically. And conservatives call liberals "elites" because they know how uneducated the conservative party is. The Democrat party and anybody with liberal beliefs have not only expressed their universal respect and kindness to others regardless of any association or genetics or demographic, etc., but their vast majority not even being rich or upper middle class. I can relate to this claim because my family and I are middle class and liberal/Democratic. Again, thank you Xanderhal. I'm so happy to find a liberal talk channel on KZbin to educate others on controversial topics.

[@dreamboigameplayz7207]

@mr.m6038 well maybe you weren't given an option or mindset to feel you have a choice to where you might be safest especially in your new career. yes college costs a lot but take that into account. I'd expect a thought process like that coming from an adult.

[@OldemarFIN]

He's making college girls do his face ratings now? Jesus, Wheat is even more grifty now than a year ago.

[@LucianDarcWolf]

Roughly starting at the 4:30 minute mark(maybe a tad before it) Xanderhal makes a point of stating that it’s obvious that the ladies being asked related to the scale that the ladies have a type(fyi most folks have at least 1 type of person they like either s*xually, romantically, for friendship, ect). People like the guy who’s featured in this video have been informed of many times likely but refuses to believe that anyone(women and girls especially) might have other qualifiers for partners beyond physical appearance(which in my experience has been of lesser importance compared to personality, intelligence, and other much more enduring and complex than that of physical appearance). So while I’m not a woman, I can speak as to what I observed with my sisters and friends along with my own personal experiences in dating to come to the conclusion that being attracted to someone can be crazy complex and is 100% depending on the total compatibility of the individuals involved that are seeking out a partner. Sure being considered conventionally attractive MIGHT help hypothetically but it’s not the sole determining factor like these folks seem to think. Honestly it’s really sad that as a posed to working on themselves as an individual they rather blame their problems on everyone else rather than recognizing they are the problem.

[@painunending4610]

How much did you work on yourself before someone was attracted to you I've been working on myself for years. I'm 25 and haven't had my first kiss yet

[@painunending4610]

It's weird that you people have such a problem with someone sayin that women care about looks I think it shatters your just world fallacy. It's a very narrow-minded way of seeing things. You could work in yourself to be more open about it... But you won't, because well why would you, you don't know what it's like one unattractive, and you don't wanna know. Why would you want to have empathy

[@LucianDarcWolf]

@@painunending4610 Well honestly I’ve never not been working on myself. I’m not an Incel either, but have been targeted by a couple in the past when I was a teenager, as were a few of my friends and sisters. I was raised to be largely humble, and not to even request things that I didn’t earn or deserve. Even though I was heavily bullied growing up I still didn’t have the mindset of I’m allowed to demand things of people beyond not being treated like dirt for being poor or enjoying reading or art. As to how much it took for people to attracted to me I can’t say because I never really actively sought out romantic/sexual relationships. It was always the other person who would show interest in that way first and even then it was more often than not after we had been friends for a while. The first of my longest relationships lasted 10 years, ended amicably and we remained friends till her passing. The second of my longest relationships is still active, having been for the last 16 years. The relationships that fell in between all lasted roughly 2 to 3 years give or take, two of those relationships failed due to the other person cheating, while the 3 remaining we just naturally grew apart. So realistically I personally don’t have issues with finding partners, though I wouldn’t say I actively tried to either as I was much more focused on other things(namely navigating life when I had a heafty amount of responsibilities especially when I was a teen outside of school and my very very limited social life; needless to say I honestly for a time didn’t have much time for dating either along with a general kind of take it or leave it approach. Which is to say if I got to be in a relationship yay, but if not then it was a non issue). Though I’m a bit confused as to what gave you the impression I was/am an incel or anything of the sort when I stated an observation based on both first hand experience and witnessing that a friend/sibling or being vented to by friend/sibling that they had these things happen to them. Like I said in my above comment that looks/appearance can MAYBE play a part to things but it’s hardly the only qualification that people have when they look for a partner. For me personally what I look for in a partner covers a huge range of things, like interests, hobbies, taste in food, movies, media as a whole really, humor(can they make me laugh), would they stick around if I got sick like what happened to my mom(some of which I did inherit), will this person be supportive of me and my dreams(as I would be of theirs), ect. Appearance to me was very much an internal beauty, self confidence, self love, and are they a genuinely good person(if a class mate is sick hurt will they get help, will they make sure if someone is getting bullied they’ll get help/speak up, ect). I never once ever felt or thought that I was entitled to have a partner at any point in my life, especially with the abuse I suffered at the hands of my at the time stepdad added with my own health which had started to show signs of decline(I was 16), work, school, and being bullied from the age of 6 onwards to college. Not once did I feel I deserved anyone or anything I hand in my life, I always felt that most of the love and things I got in life had to be earned and there was no such thing as a gift. I had a wonderful mother who raised me to be grateful for everything in my life, we were poor, she was always sick(not just the flu…chronic pain from two forms of arthritis Osteoarthritis and RA[she developed both when she was a teenager; underdeveloped knee caps that would partially or fully dislocate at any time, chronic fatigue chronic bouts with pneumonia, sickle cell anemia[deformed white blood cells which results in a very weakened/compromised immune system], and later I’d loose her to cancer), she emphasized that I was more important that dating/having a partner at least while I was young so that I could have fun in life just on my own to learn what I liked and what I wanted out of life(it did help some that I didn’t have the time to do much dating at that time too I’m sure but when you only have 1 free day a week do do anything fun for yourself you have to be selective on your activities…most days I just tried to catch up on sleep and reading books or drawing. Even when I was dating I would just chat with them in the phone while also cleaning/doing chores or catching up on reading or homework), and she did try to get my at the time step dad to stop his BS(but she was physically unable to do much, but did at least manage to get to where he’d be home less often[found out why he didn’t complain about it a bit before my mom passed]). My mom didn’t raise an entitled child, she raised a child the best she could with the help of her parents, and later her husband(my former stepdad, he was an abusive alcoholic narcissist…he gave me trust issues for life among other things) that would be ok in the end no matter what life would throw his way. Had she known some of the things her son would faced she might have chosen to make sure I had more meditation/greater patience when it came to just how extensive the bullying I received was(I was literally nearly killed by one of my teachers because he didn’t want to follow a medical protocol for me, I have a seizure disorder which is induced by high temperatures(for me that 80 degrees Fahrenheit in the shade and 85 in direct sunlight) this teacher knew about this for YEARS when he chose to yell at me to take laps in the heat…he nearly lost his job…a 7th grader tossed me into the school’s pool when I was like 9 and held me down under the water(I couldn’t really swim well) but my mom who couldn’t swim dove in to save me as she was the only adult present at that exact moments(the other was tendering to another student I believe), I don’t remember what happened to the kid though, I do know that he left me some PTSD though(granted there were plenty of events did that). I’ve only been two things in my whole existence up to and including today been resilient and completely and perpetually carrying the feeling of I don’t deserve anything in life. If it’s anything I’ve had to do sense I was a kid is how to ask for help and that it’s ok to ask for help. I had friends but I never expected any of them to stay, because I never felt like I deserved them so I was grateful for every day they stuck around, I love my mom, but even then I felt like she’d be better of if she hadn’t had me. I’ve never ever once felt entitled nor genuinely have their presence desired in the lives of ANYONE I’ve ever known that’s how deep my trust issues are…even though I know that my partner, my siblings, and my friends do want me around…

[@masterlee1988]

@@painunending4610 No kiss yet by 25? Brutal!

[@blub-tf6rt]

​@@painunending4610just be yourself bro

[@alessandroesposito6314]

A "redpilled incel" doesnt exist. Thats an oxymoron

[@masterlee1988]

True, as being an incel goes against the redpill. It's only blackpill for being an incel.

[@The_Lovey_Informer]

Wrong an incel can follow both ideologies.

[@alessandroesposito6314]

@@The_Lovey_Informer incels are blackpilled, meaning they dont believe in dating opportunities. Looks means everything and theres no way around it. Redpillers believe there are ways to compensate having poor looks, and they're part of MGTOW, not inceldom

[@blub-tf6rt]

​@@The_Lovey_Informeran incel should unfollow incelstuff and go to therapy

[@Authenticnerd123]

Red pill is incel ideology

[@sirensong237]

unironically bragging about being an incel is not a flex these people think it is..

[@trashketchum9782]

what always gets me about these incel charts is they always consider fat women to be a “2” or below regardless of how conventionally facially attractive they are. think about Tess Holiday, if she was thin she would be regarded as conventionally attractive like Lana Del Rey. i find fat women attractive, & so do a lot of men. it throws a wrench in the entire incel worldview.

[@jacobnoelle8428]

Chubby queens

[@LilSadge-w5d]

fat is not healthy and most people think its shit and unattractive

[@masterlee1988]

@@LilSadge-w5d Yeah I agree. It's also why I'll never be fat.

[@betterthanrae8137]

just because your videos get views, doesnt mean you arent harrassing people.

[@nini3076]

So asking someone if they want to do an Interview counts as harassment now? Yall a bunch of snowflakes

[@blub-tf6rt]

​@@nini3076ok boomer

[@JCBjr15]

Didn't know Wheat Waffles looked like that. Like he looks fine but he kind gives off Patrick Stars pinhead Larry face vibe and it makes me laugh.

[@Alex.R.L]

I remember when Dim Tool tried to go eat sushi with Emma from the Majority Report. That's a pick up artist food. Sushi is supposed to make you feel randy, baeby! Dim Tool got turned down, and now calls Emma a pedo. Wizardchan is full of red hats, and conservative dating apps always fail.

[@Elgato1221]

12:20 as a ginger i say F-U good sir! F-U!

[@John-qv5ux]

I never knew about this man until now, and now that I do know about him, I wanna die.

[@maxgustafsson7802]

Okay, but have you even calculated your SMV? /s

[@jatinmarcob2128]

​@@maxgustafsson7802My Sex Motion Video is way beyond the charts!

[@ometta7]

Don't die. Live to spite this man.

[@NESRockman1987]

I am sure he has banned for a very different reason which he did not tell... No one will be banned just because asking a question to make a video about this topic. Bet he did something inappropriate with girls. Unless that he actually not has been banned not just lie to get views...

[@-kurow-7113]

He looks like an older version of my cousin and I can't unsee it.

[@UGNPFU]

05:15 White & Asian, Women are more tolerant of unconventional men, ask a bunch of Black, Latin, Arab, Indian Women the same question different results. Culture plays a role too

[@TimeLord675]

India is part of Asia, too. Or were you talking about Native American/First Nations women?

[@lykanno5137]

if tongue is melee, then is 69 a knife party 😂😂 lmao

[@mackfly8420]

Male ginger here, We down bad Xan c'mon bro..😂❤ Fuck this kids ideas not his physical attributes! P.S i typed this lookin pink af 😂❤

[@g.allen0888]

Tbh the redhead jokes arent a good look. This guy is awful enough without commenting on his appearance and at the same time putting down an entire demographic of people.

[@SeeStuDo]

Timcel Pool 😂

[@dorino9057]

All those guys in the pictures would look better if they learned how to take a proper selfie meant don’t know how to take pictures of myself like women. Flattering picture makes you look better from the right angle and the correct lighting.

[@torphedo6286]

true! just looking up some basic info about lighting and framing will go a long way.

[@SpicyTacoBell]

I remember Vaush destroying this guy in a debate before. Sad to see he’s still on the same grift

[@HiveSci]

You don’t start with your rifle, you start with your side arm or the knife.

[@awkwardukulele6077]

Lmao, yep.

[@glenndiddy]

If your looks aren't the problem, then it's your personality and they cannot accept that

[@painunending4610]

Please explain why Ted Bundy got married after he was convicted for murder

[@jasebaz9941]

Chad can be as misogynistic as he wants, and he will still get laid more than any normie who respects women.

[@genericcatgirl]

Many serial killers are REALLY charismatic and/or manipulative regardless of their looks @@painunending4610

[@LilSadge-w5d]

typical response predicted name checks out@@genericcatgirl

[@LilSadge-w5d]

creepy ugly men cannot be charismatic cut the shieeeet@@genericcatgirl

[@ravenmushroom929]

5:35 Me thinking I don’t see it. Then remembered I’m gay. Oh right that why.

[@jasebaz9941]

Never began

[@missfaztudo9312]

18:12 you are 100% correct, my friend!

[@Warpenguin55]

I'm scared how close I was to becoming an incel

[@masterlee1988]

Yeah that would suck!

[@crustykeycap5670]

So you had sex?

[@wiktork.7377]

You’re fucking right Xander my monster is for the boys.

[@snowcat9308]

9:25 bro the gedagedegedageda o lookin mf in the bottom right 😭

[@rockfire1669]

7:40 overdressed girlfriend and underdressed boyfriend meme

[@glenndiddy]

Ain't no way bro harassed people at his own campus 💀

[@shurickster]

why does he write T like a person with arms?

[@MethSloth]

The dude is actually not bad looking. He ruins it by being a weirdo.

[@KingDeDeDeIncorporated]

I don’t want a girlfriend, I have something better that very few have.

[@ecos889]

Xander: Gingers have no soul. Me: A male Fem Enby. Yes, yes I do not and I will suck the juices of all other guys to have them join the legions of Satan to take over the world with my ginger brethren muahahaha XD Also I got freckles and found the new trend of putting freckles on your face to be kinda weird.

[@tc-tm1my]

I like playing connect the dot with freckles

[@sleepy_onion4838]

People love all different flavors.

[@softenbysam]

Well yeah, I'd say most people in general find femininity more attractive than masculinity. There are more attractive women than men, and way more woman care about their appearance, and loads of men don't give much a shit about theirs. I get like 50x more positive attention from men and women, after I started presenting way more androgynously and sometimes fem

[@Bazz59]

There's a lotta people both male and female that simply don't have the social skills to gain interest from other people , though appearance is fairly important to most people ( Myself included) I have known some very beautiful or handsome people who have absolutely no sex appeal whatsoever , and part of that sex appeal , I feel , is being able to hold a conversation as well as wearing clothes that suit you , show a bit of your personality and that you feel good in , It gives a person confidence to a point and that adds to that sex appeal ... Incels tend to wear whatever their mothers bought them and often continue that same style ( or lack thereof ) after leaving home and don't really have any interest in how they look ... I also think Incels concentrate too much on wanting to get laid rather than learning about the person they're chasing ... I was a Ginge , by the way , but one WITH soul ... The interviewer himself is the best looking out of the group of photos he has , and his ability to talk to a camera is pretty good too , but his approach to the girl who just said no and walked off , was very creepy , not to mention that he actually gave her an excuse to get out of talking to him by telling her she was probably busy or in a hurry to get somewhere ... and he really needs to wear clothes that don't make him look so pale and insipid ...

[@emofascist]

Incels are fascinating

[@masterlee1988]

Yep, very interesting for how they are.

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a Vaush and SirSic fan!

[@awkwardukulele6077]

I love that you usually mention other KZbinrs besides Vaush, so anyone looking for other cool creators get suggestions!

[@VooshSpokesman]

@@awkwardukulele6077 Of course! Gotta dpread the love

[@tc-tm1my]

Why is he only asking college women? Ask older women too.

[@generaldreagonlps6889]

Likely because that's the age group those incels are interested in.

[@VeinyWombat]

So many women into skinny or chubby guys

[@jasebaz9941]

No there isn't 😂

[@VeinyWombat]

@@jasebaz9941 K

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

Lies

[@awkwardukulele6077]

@@Lowclasswarrior778cope

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

@@awkwardukulele6077no u

[@SilverDragonJay]

9:37 omg, they're all *fine* why would you _pay_ for this?! Honestly, in my opinion, there's no one there that's less then a 5, but the simple fact that they all _paid_ this man for this "service" immediately drops them all to a 1. How about this: I'll set up a fiverr and you can give _me_ $5 to tell you you look fine. For $10 I can even give you advice on what you can do to improve your attractiveness (to me, at least). Here's a hint for free: hands are hot. Its a bargain because I'm sure he charges more.

[@crustykeycap5670]

What kinds of hands do you like.

[@Overseer-yx9tk]

I'm not the produest individual; I try to change a bit day-by-day, and some days are...harder than others. What I can say is that, aside from appearances...presentation matters a lot. Who would want to be with an individual so clearly full of negativity, hatred both outwardly and inwardly and, last but not least...who holds such sad worldviews? Like, c'mon. I think it's mostly a matter of perspective. Finding a partner is a beautiful occurence...but it's only one of the myriad things you're able to do. The more I think about it, the more it seems like this whole process of change is something that takes a long time and is _excruciatingly_ difficult, but being negative like these people that ACTUALLY PAID to be "rated" like they're some sort of product?...no, dude.

[@crustykeycap5670]

I don't think people that know wheat waffles in real life know about his youtube channel. So how is he supposed to look negative in real life?