Incendie au Quartier Chinois de Montréal - 17 novembre 2016 - FIRE IN CHINATOWN- PARTIE 1

[@vegasmedic9725]

This is a perfect training video to learn how to read the smoke and why you park your apparatus 1 1/2x away from the structure incase of collapse. Great video thanks for posting

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Great video??? This video was pure shit.

[@imdjc4]

The people in the Holiday Inn next door will definitely have some vacation stories to take home with them. BTW... great coverage and good camera work.

[@BeytekinConstructionMachinery]

Slowest Fire Department I ever saw! Moving their trucks over 10 minutes in different directions, no platforms with massiv water attacks, etc...

[@Aprilsraven629]

This was not 1 building but several so attack has to be done on all 4 corners to cover all exposures at risk, the building flashed over at 10 min so trucks move to were there needed most hence moving them and depending on what type is needed...slow no cautious calculated assesment was imperitive for safe ops and maxium attack

[@Feuerwehrmann94]

The first time of any kind of incident is called the chaotic time. You have to check several points: - Are there any civilists or casualties - Where to locate your ressources (trucks, manpower, water supply) - Protect the environment In this case it was a really big structure fire and you need a lot of time to check of those things. And if you still believe they were too slow just join your local fire department ;)

[@مژگانخاکتوسرتکنمتوایرانمیچریفو]

اتش به جونت بگیر دیوس وایسادی فیلم میگیری از ویرانی وطنت

[@JasmineLindros]

Traffic control is an integral part of fighting an urban fire. Montreal should try to learn this.

[@straytrons1]

If that location had a water supply issue I can see the lack of master streams early on. Other than that, ... well I got nothing. Early on, a hard exterior attack in to the top floor windows from the A and D sides may have darkened it enough to buy time and get the ladder pipes in to play. At the very least it would likely have postponed the collapse long enough to get the ladder pipes elevated and positioned to tackle the roof collapse and the bonfire that followed. Looked like no pre-plan, no strategic placement of first due engines and ladders, not sure what that truck company was doing that roll by early on. The BC that took the A/B sidewalk corner seemed lost. (B-side is the one facing the camera for arguments sake.) About the only company that was even making an attempt was in the A-side parking lot with either a 2 1/2 or a ground master stream. It was hard to tell. The FF’s on the B/C corner were obviously not getting water pressure, although unless they were trying to protect come cars or something that stream was not going to do anything but quash some ground embers. Over all, that was painful to watch and will be used for my next training as a table top WWYD event. And yes, I am a certified FF with a degree in fire science.

[@trevjr]

Thank you for your comment. I am new to fires but I assumed they were doing an inside attack because of the white smoke. When the fire broke thru the roof none of the tower ladders were in position. A view down the street shows at least 4 towers on the street. Why weren't they prepared? Plenty of time to secure water supply and position towers before it broke thru roof. I was just yelling at the screen 'where is the water?' Roof is fully involved and there is a tower truck moving into position on the street. Someone needs to be fired over this incompetence.

[@KEVINMORGANCOUNTRYMUSIC]

Total Incompetence, 15 Fire Trucks sitting around with no clue what to do for 30 minute. Quick Tip is to actually squirt the water ON THE FIRE. Obvious lack of Training to common in Fire Deptartments. Luckily the Fire Walls between buildings aloud the fire to BURN ITSELF OUT.

[@BenjaminEsposti]

What the heck was in that building?! It burned very vigorously. Maybe the fire had been in an incipient stage for a long time?

[@retmsgtpete6509]

The fire department response to the scene was amazing. Almost to many trucks showed up at the same time. The chief had to sort them out as to where he/she wanted them. :)

[@gillesrenaud6926]

Très bon de voir l'arriver des premiers pompiers et leur installation au début. Mais svp, enlever la musique. Le son des sirènes serait assez.

[@ВиталийВорончихин-ъ9э]

Как всегда и везде все водители думают только о том, что ему надо проехать. А про то что они мешают работать пожарным и их задержка может стоить кому то жизни, - никто не задумывается! Единственное и эффективное решение этой проблемы, это на законодательном уровне укрепить конструкцию спец транспорта и дать полное право расчищать дорогу к пожару методом тарана мешающих транспортных средств. А также дать полное право при необходимости методом тарана расчищать площадку для работы пожарных расчетов от припаркованного транспорта. Только тогда каждый из водителей сделает все возможное, чтобы не создать помеху. А городским властям совместно с пожарными разработать планы тушения по каждому зданию. И в соответствии с этими планами запретить стоянку в местах возможного развертывания пожарной техники.

[@mayki2k]

У любого пожарного подразделения, есть разработанная схема по тушению, любого здания на вверенном им участке, ИЗНАЧАЛЬНО, это не Вам это в голову "Сейчас" пришло. В штатах, как и в Канаде есть законные основания двигать всё и вся, мешающее при проведении аварийно-спасательных работ. И стоянка запрещена около гидрантов. НО, у них есть один интересный закон, им НАСРАТЬ на строение и на все ценности. И они НИКОГДА не будут рисковать своей жизнью чтобы спасти здание или материальные ценности, они будут стоять и поливать вокруг, хоть всё сгори вокруг- в огонь они не пойдут. Говорю это как бывший сотрудник пожарной охраны- У нас - защити всё и всех ценой своей жизни. У них- сгори всё к чертям- не сдохни сам.

[@yuliakovalenko1385]

@@mayki2k Вот почему видно, что пожар то фактически и не тушили.. Но за такое нетушение и промедление в Зимней вишне начальнику пожарной бригады впаяли срок. А здесь, интересно, было ли хоть какое-нибудь наказание за пофигизм

[@mayki2k]

@@yuliakovalenko1385 Вы когда мой комментарий читали, суть его поняли? Или Вам главное только лишь своё мнение высказать, ничем не подкреплённое, основанное на том, что в интернете прочитали и по коробке для промывке мозгов увидели?

[@yuliakovalenko1385]

@@mayki2k Хамить, однако, совсем не хорошо, даже если Вы считаете, что Вас поняли не правильно!

[@mayki2k]

@@yuliakovalenko1385 А в каком месте я хамил интересно? Я поинтересовался, поняли ли Вы комментарий и усомнился в Ваших выводах касательно Зимней Вишни, ввиду не достаточной информативности и поверхностных знаний!

[@normanbrunt2053]

So did they let the heart of the fire burn because they figured no one would be able to put that out, so they decided to concentrate on protecting near-by buildings?

[@oBseSsIoNPC]

One dozen (12) fire trucks and 2 streams of water. Access and water supply issues again? Wow, poor firefighters watching it go down in flames like that.

[@craigmc3614]

The fire engines look like they've been driving up a dusty road.

[@RalphBraseth]

This isn't Hollywood, it's a tragic fire. Get rid of the music. Terrible.

[@commonsense6794]

For a large metro professional department. this set up and attack seems delayed and uncoordinated........ sure, primary search, protect exposures, establish water supply....... the deploying of assets seems delayed and uncoordinated...... deploy aerial trucks on all sides and surround and drown....... although it looks dramatic, the big venting of the fire is a good thing...... would have expected more from professional leadership..........

[@rikmills]

Wow. What was in that place? A firewood factory?

[@johanrebel]

The fire is venting through the roof bigtime, yet after 23 minutes none of the ladder trucks is in action? While they spent all that time performing some sort of jerky aerial ballet, other firefighters were left to wash the facades and streets from ground level. What am I missing here?

[@stephenwilliams9775]

This is a link to a news story about the fire. Montreal FD states that their approach to fighting the fire was defensive because they didn't consider the building to be safe. montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/major-fire-in-downtown-montreals-chinatown

[@jason1440]

johanrebel Its Canada. Maple syrup is hard to push through the hose more so than water.

[@presenttalk7062]

+Fred Trump What about you read the fucking news story before talking shit? Do something for your country instead

[@presenttalk7062]

And what are you exactly doing about that? Sitting behind a monitor and typing to other people? If you wanna do something go join the Law Enforcement and help with the Immigration laws. Go do something useful with your sad life. Like come the fuck on.

[@presenttalk7062]

You're an Immigration Officer? Alright show your Chief your messages and you'll get fired in 2 seconds. *Oh wait, You aint a Officer just a useless "Citizen"* 😂

[@laoluu]

What was in that building that burned so well? Some sort of a factory? No office or residential building could fuel that kind of a fire.

[@YelpBullhorn]

I'm totally amazed at how many armchair firefighters think the fire department are doing a crap job. From this distance it's fairly difficult to see what's going on at all, and we certainly cannot see around the sides or inside the building. Plus any fool can see that this building was lost from the outset.

[@funonutube100]

Over 21 minutes in and only two handlines on the fire...WTF!!!! Where are the master streams . More training required for sure!!! You would think that a dept. this size would have their shit together...obviously not! Embarrassing!

[@williamclark5339]

Moving ladder trucks 20 +min into a fire, no master stream going .. ouch

[@мифодийбжерский]

Firefighter: it is Obvious that the fire occurred due to the fact that you went to bed with a cigarette. Victim: No sir when I went to bed the bed was already burning.

[@ibrahimhassani529]

Can you please tell me where i can find/name of the music you used. Nice video btw! Thanks in advance!

[@commonsense6794]

OK...…….... for all the arm chair quarterbacks……. first things first...….. get the people out, conduct primary searches next door, second make assessment, cover exposures., third, establish water supplies (if they all work)….... yes, it did take over 10 minutes to get the airels up and water running...…. but they did the best they could...… no way in 100 years you ever send anyone in there...….. almost looks like they let it burn so it would self ventilate.....

[@APMakkum]

I looks like these firemen don't know what to do.... were they not able to get some water ?

[@hebneh]

What was inside this building that created such an immense fire?? A stockpile of tires? It’s unbelievable to see something like this in an urban area.

[@dasboot6935]

The Green Acres Volunteer Fire Department in action. They never cancelled the TV series they just moved it to Montreal Canada.

[@kevincase6202]

I guess you are so posed to let the building burn before putting the water on

[@davidsalzman4672]

500 comments and no pro ff has explained why the ladders kept going up and down and moving around. Seems like someone called Montreal brick washing company. Btw all adjoining buildings were saved by modern firewalls.

[@lynnsmith5449]

What is in that building? Lots of cars parked nearby. Is it a factory, apartment building? It’s big.

[@hcrun]

Note to the camera-person: next time do NOT zoom in & out. Fires such as this a far more spectacular when the shot is pulled back. Zooming in to try and see smoke and tongues of flame is not effective and results in camera shake.

[@silkaverage]

if it annoys you that much, feel free to film and upload your own video, I'm sure somebody somewhere will find fault with it, don't be so ungrateful

[@boomrooier]

Good view on the fire from the Palais de Justice (10, Reu Saint Antione est).

[@katelinecottereau5749]

quel dommage cette musique cela gache la vidéo le bruit environnant de l'incident aurais été 10 fois mieux

[@huswsimonbla]

I dont want to sound mean or like an "arm chair fire fighter" but they seem way too slow and relaxed. It takes forever for them to get set up and then they only have two main lines. No ladder trucks in action and seems no reinforcements. That seemed really lack luster to me.

[@josephastier7421]

As an armchair firefighter I keep hitting F5 to help .

[@toufikbenchikh4331]

on devrait prevoir ds chaque habitation une source à eau ds chaque piece , et qui se declenche en cas de forte temperature ça permettra de limiter les degats voire d'eteindre un incendie à son debut !

[@ghislaineporte4713]

J ai décidé de mettre un extincteur dans mon appartement.

[@TomsChevelle]

Were they pumping gasoline on the fire?

[@COLMAN2400]

How long does it take to park our trucs ? A lot of fireman, firetrucks and ladders but it takes ages before the first drop of water is used ! Maybe the waited to get their hands on a real big fire.

[@Aprilsraven629]

4 min s in the smoke is changing colour and density, flashover is not far away....new fires in the front...fire on all floors

[@danvetor1365]

First time I have seen all the trucks on one street. How will you make a good attack that way?

[@SciFiRo]

Shame on the fire chief on scene! With so many ladders and aerials you managed to let a building burn to the ground...or was it a request from somebody interested in that place?! Either way you managed to shame your entire FD!

[@stefanmaulbrich4036]

can the camera synonymous 2 minutes silence? this eternal panning and gezoome..nervt

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Indeed. This video is as good as your English.

[@EverydayInUa]

They did nothing for more then 10 minutes! Why???

[@dmitriynomov8016]

Что-то я не врубился, в чём заключается у них работа пожарных? Или они ждут, когда упадут бабки на счёт, за данный выезд?

[@davidvce5035]

Perfecta filmacion, completa y sin cortes. Lastima el sonido, pero muy buen reporte. Saludos desde Bs.As. Argentina

[@jason1440]

I like in the beginning a fire engine drives by and didn't stop or pull over. I bet they didn't even see it probably not even looking up.

[@PhilUrbanex]

They probably stop the vehicule more away. The first vehicule on scene is supose to say *fumée apparente* to others vehicules.

[@eriksand9262]

Actually it stops, do you not notice the car that was behind it stopped, then starts reversing down the street? Dumbass...

[@elvisbest3213]

looks like water isssues far as having enough water pressure

[@CarTalesCrew]

I'm not understanding why i'm looking at 3 ladder trucks with no master streams. what is the point of that. you're 20 mins in and still no stick up with water smh

[@cjjlmorris]

Ok I finally see 2 streams of water.. hardly appears to be solving anything?

[@cebruma2063]

Belle vidéo de qualité, mais je pense que le son ambiant aurai été plus approprié qu'une musique

[@sondengehen]

Does the fire department clear there with gasoline or what's going on?

[@hockeyfreak043]

Where the hell is the firefighters.? Definitely not enough. For this..no water being sprayed, just a little bit .wow..

[@CyberK999]

I wasn't even watching the fire, I was watching how terrible people are at getting the hell out of the way.

[@allenheasley911]

DON'T BOTHER TO GET IN A HURRY GUYS

[@user990077]

10:49 Phantom face appears in window glass.

[@dingmclaren3804]

the video was recorded from the court about 6 floors up...very familiar with the area

[@vwjd77]

It was the God of Fire !!!

[@2manyspruces]

Hey everyone, I’ve got an idea. Let’s use our ladders and hoses to see if we can put the fire out before it gets out of control....because, after all, we are firefighters.

[@cjjlmorris]

Okkkkk... What was the point of the ladders if no one used them for anything. It seems like perhaps the firemen perhaps didn't have experience with a rather short building . And now it's several buildings and a huge fire. Where's the water ????

[@xBloodXGusherx]

Ok, where is the ACTUAL audio?

[@johndean4998]

The Fire Department might as well have not bothered turning up.

[@williamthompson7162]

Absolute pathetic deployment and attack strategy resulted in a towers of flames almost 200 feet high. Want a bonfire in your downtown area - call the Montreal Fire Brigade.

[@PhilUrbanex]

17:19 le moment ou le feu devient gigantesque.

[@coqfier]

ce sont les gaz accumulé par la chaleur qui crée cette flamme énorme 😶

[@aurelvrincean8163]

Не видно что сушат ПОЖАРНЫЕ,они ленивые и ходят кругами когда все горит приехали когда был только дым и что осталось пока они ходят палочками и яйца чешут...РАЗОЧАРОВАНИЕ

[@gregg4164]

8 minutes in and still not a single line ran or any water on the fire yet.

[@FD-E-St-Fire]

If you look it the windows early on the smoke was everywhere from were the cameras angle from three story's from the top. On a structure this size it's hard to have the resources to gain on a fire. First ..evacuation alone took up a lot of the firefighters. Send the 4th or 5th unit in to evaluate but they are only seeing 5% of the issues. The only suppression that is going on first is the standpipes. Obviously this place didn't have a working smoke or fire suppression system, if so the sprinklers would have snuffed it before the FD was called. Do your research on large fires like ybor city fire in 2000 in Tampa Florida 4 to 6 square blocks of fire extremely fast moving fire. The first unit from a block away pulled out of the station calling for 2nd alarm and a 3rd alarm within a couple of minutes after that. If I remember right it was around 7 or 8 alarms in the end but the moral to the story is that once the fire is so big you are going to fighting a uphill battle inch by inch. Once the fire broke through the roof the penetration of the streams went to almost zero. What you say about the FD is wrong you are only seeing it from one angle and not seeing the whole picture.

[@Barflax]

Bad leadership, can't see any early attack. What setup if any? Firetruckers coming and goes somewere, laddertrucks don't do nothing. Did they wait for open fire before doing what they supposed to do from the beginning?

[@martinarcher7977]

At 9:20 the fires really going and you're panned way to far out and all your movements are reflected in the glass - very distracting. How about you just document the event and not try,(and fail royally), to get all artsy with it.

[@johnboi1766]

steven spielberg you are not. set it up and leave it. we do appreciate your vid tho.

[@yannickcuisine866]

Oui quel dommage de ne pas avoir le son ... on s'ennuient beaucoup

[@thebigrighthand7728]

can anyone tell me why it takes so long to get water on the fire

[@rmbr343]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I can give you some general information. The first arriving officer has to look for any hazards which may put his crews in danger. Wires, imminent collapse, etc. Also, the crews need to hook into water supplies that may not be readily accessible. Examples would be vehicles parked in front of hydrants, hydrants that aren't working, older buildings with no Fire Department Connections, etc. I hope this helps some.

[@gpray4surff412]

Yes, you have to train and have standard operating procedures as well as sufficient manpower Most depts don’t have enough staffing to fight this kind of fire Relying on sprinklers and other fire prevention methods to prevent this This was probably literally a trash can in an upper floor office when they first arrived Could’ve put it out with a water gun lotta smoke Little fire

[@thebigrighthand7728]

but why start putting water on the fire then stop for 10 mins pls don't tell me they have to have a meeting first, no wonder the fire spread so fast, surely the fire brigade should already know the ins and outs of the building like where the fire escapes are where the water outlets are how many ppl are in the building at any 1 time, and i also think that if there were fire hoses installed on every floor like at my old school and my place of work that fire wouldn't of got so big so fast because any 1 could of started to fight that fire while the fire brigade were on route and had there meeting first ofcourse

[@Zotya08]

Too bad you were always fiddle with the camera.

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Yeah. Typical shitty person who has no idea how to make a video.

[@rickrickard2788]

I'll never understand why people, when filming something of this nature, don't just leave the camera alone. You had a clear, steady picture...and then the zooming begins, and the moving the the reflections, blocking what we are seeing. I mean, we all know that "smoke goes up, for the most part. Smoke is an end result. Or, it can be a harbinger of something worse coming- as we saw here. Why? Because this fire had not found it's food supply yet, meaning, enough oxygen to really get going. Otherwise? All the moving, zooming, etc? It makes people seasick. Frame your shot, and then let the camera do it's job. You only need to move the camera, if the event, itself moves, or something of greater importance is viewed, and you want to capture it. Otherwise? Just let us watch what you're watching, that is what you are attempting to do, correct? Just some suggestions.

[@steve1978ger]

Seems like the distance a fireground video was shot from correlates with the number of people telling the FD how to do their job?

[@mysterywaltz]

Ist das jetzt unkontrolliertes Handeln oder kontrolliertes Abfackeln? In 20 Minuten nicht mal auf einer Leiter zu stehen, das gibt's in Deutschland jedenfalls nicht.

[@lightpawshird]

This fire seemed to visually spread too far too fast, has all the visual ear marks of a torch job

[@jdjones7469]

Lightpaws Hird without knowing the construction or age of the building, I might agree with you. However a few factors may be overlooked. Age of the building, contents, and changes through the years can greatly affect the buildings ability to contain a fire. But could very well be arson.

[@b3j8]

I remember 40 yrs back we had a hotel burned by some fire for hire dude. Went up just like this place. Fire Dept was on scene fast but that didn't matter. Something to watch that was for sure!

[@1961casey]

What got me is the civilian traffic still trying to make a left turn while all the fire trucks are there. Then the five ton truck tries to make a turn. I mean, hey guy, don't you think there might be an emergency there? Sure, maybe you didn't see the smoke billowing from the upper floors but don't you think it might be a good idea to go another way? Some people just seem extraordinarily dense. I would have sat back, let them do their job and waited until they could direct me to where I could go.

[@pauligysin]

It seems to me that the Montreal Fire Department has made a bet: Whoever moved last won !!! There are 3 turntable ladders standing around and none of them move although there have been more than 4 ignitions, simply incomprehensible to me

[@doubledeechannel4796]

La question est : les camions de pompiers sont arrivés et arrêter sur place à 1:55 du début de la vidéo et les premiers arrosages (aperçu) commencent à 11:30 minutes ! Pourquoi ça pris 10 MINUTES aux pompiers pour commencer à arroser l’édifice? Par surprenant que tout a flambé! 🤦🏻‍♂️🙄

[@marioribeirodeazevedoneto311]

Os Bombeiros de Montréal foram lentos de mais. O tempo que levaram para inciar o trabalho de rescaldo foi grande e ocasionou o incendio daquelas proporções. Lamentável! E ainda dizem que o Canadá é de primeiro mundo. Os Bombeiros brasileiros são mais eficientes.

[@avelinoribeiro]

Mario Ribeiro de Azevedo Neto não conheço os bombeiros Brasileiros mas acredito em você. Em Portugal também são bem mais eficientes. O problema dos bombeiros neste vídeo é o mesmo dos bombeiros dos Estados Unidos .... água, grandes carros mas não tem água, tem que estender mangueiras até aos pontos de água para iniciar o combate. Depois pelo que tenho visto em muitos vídeo são lentos, muito lentos parece que estão em passeio que não se passa nada, às vezes até parece que deixam arder de propósito.

[@marioribeirodeazevedoneto311]

Valeu!

[@marinapino480]

El mundo ya no es lo que era Mario...a medida que el talmud va avanzando...

[@ianorr7623]

One of the WORST Fire Attacks I've ever seen.

[@R-Ws308]

Remove music

[@areaone3813]

What’s up with the music???

[@earlhanley]

This went from a possibly containable fire (With a good department) to outta control. Mayberry FD could have done a better job.

[@daomc]

That thing burns like a Gas Station

[@63syzran]

Вот это полыхает, химия какая то горит....

[@marcoramires5045]

*SHOULD HAVE OPENED THE GLASS. REFLECTION MISTAKES THE FILMING.*

[@frankgalligan9111]

Must have been a big hockey game on or 2 for 1 Molsons happy hour.

[@MrGralum]

Will someone be giving instructions? finally at 11:40 the first jet of water, which slow to react, looks like an exhibition

[@UweTrautmann]

100 Feuerwehrwagen und keiner löscht...

[@mike32277]

Wow. Fire Chief needs to be canned. This is got to be one if the worst fire departments I've ever seen. Don't this department as big as Montreal own a few ladder hoses? Dang!! The fire is on the 3 and top floor and the fireman on the ground are hosing the first and second floor. Is it no wonder why the roof went up.

[@aportman58]

What in the world are all these ladder trucks just sitting and moving around with the sticks laying in their cradles???

[@rosemaryarmitage3391]

I love the music. So peaceful and relexing. Where did you get it.

[@drake333100]

it's from youtube

[@joeyjamison5772]

At a fire sale!

[@siberiandaddy6065]

i'm watching it now ( 8- 9 -2018 ) and there is no sound at all, from the video.

[@elwolf8536]

that music stops thank god

[@geoffbarry9540]

Je ne suis pas Francais ou Canadien. Bon, alors...what the fuck do you expect somebody looking out of their apartment window to do when they see something like this??? Most of us - including all you movie critics - would not even have thought to do their best to capture this awful event. Ease up folks, you tube is not the Cannes festival...

[@gpray4surff412]

Proud to work for a fire department that trains and has a plan to put out a trash can fire before letting it get to this point...

[@lily-annepelletier2935]

Pourquoi indiqué des feux à Montréal quand il n'y a aucune information ? Voir un feu ou d'la fumée c'n'est vraiment pas intéressant . En France nous avons les info ,les pompiers nous explique le déroulement au fur et à mesure c'qui est plus intéressant ...

[@markdeso_]

Are they firemen from the circus? :)

[@fpvclown6088]

are you a fireman or expert lol!

[@dimgl19]

no sound?

[@karlpremier7851]

Wow, that went up, Montreal appears to have plenty of appliances, pity they can’t get near

[@MrMitchellmaher]

hello from Canada love the game good job

[@aportman58]

From the minute I arrived on this fire just from the initial observation size-up I would not have a good feeling about it based on smoke color and flow characteristics of the smoke patters.

[@scooby1992]

Some of the smoke was very dark and pulsating so perhaps they were worried about backdrafts occurring as well .

[@ostreds]

@21:03...i don't think the hoses are really going to do too much...just sayin.

[@UCPD198]

aLL THOSE LADDER TRUCKS AND NONE USED TO THROW WATER ON THE FIRE.