Incredible Independent Collection: Greubel Forsey, De Bethune and Much More with Rick Remiker

Rick Remiker (@rick.on.watches on Instagram) has spent years building up his watch collection featuring models from independent brands like De Bethune, Greubel Forsey, Romain Gauthier, and much more. He joins Tim to discuss how he got into the scene through the F.P. Journe Centigraphe and working directly with watchmakers such as the Grönefeld brothers and Kari Voutilainen. They also touch on collecting philosophy, advice for collectors, and design aesthetics in this week’s Collector Conversation.
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00:00 Introduction
02:36 F.P. Journe Centigraphe Souverain
03:28 Benzinger GAP1
06:51 Habring2 COS ZM
08:56 Grönefeld 1941 Remontoir
12:00 Kari Voutilainen Vingt-8
14:01 GoS Norrsken Northern Lights
16:31 De Bethune DB Kind of Two Tourbillon
19:39 Czapek Antarctique Celestial Limited Edition
22:41 Greubel Forsey 24 Seconds Vision
25:13 Romain Gauthier Logical One
28:24 Laurent Ferrier Galet Annual Calendar
31:04 Future for the Collection
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[@tom-lk]

Gosh, this is what i'm longing to see - someone who knows the art of horology, pulled the trigger and collect these masterpieces. Unlike others who only play it safe and collect the overhyped mainstream brands. Thanks WatchBox Studios for making this happen, well done Rick and respect!

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

It's always a pleasure to talk watches with Rick. He's open to buying all brands and prices, and he buys stuff he likes even if it's not pure Instagram heat. I love his willingness to customize designs by working with the manufacturers. I know from experience that "custom" designs that depart from brand conventions often are hard to sell on the secondary market. Rick knows and doesn't care. Best, Tim

[@tom-lk]

@@the1916companywatchreviews Totally, Rick is a true collector to top it off with your narrative and insights - what a combo! looking forward to more videos like this, KUDOS!

[@Palowaski]

The personality of this collection is Outstanding!

[@mehtabbhogal397]

Rick has a great collection and is a very nice guy! Have nerded out with him a few times. Great choice having him on.

[@shuycg]

And he's right, Tim's something special.

[@Thomas_Burnett]

Absolutely brilliant collector conversation. Rick is a true enthusiast without doubt. Fascinating to hear about his journey through collecting Independent Brands here. Some beautiful pieces on the table and interesting to hear what Rick is looking to acquire in the future. Great job at analysing the Watches Tim. Wear your Watches in good health Rick! ✊

[@shuycg]

I like this guy. Not only his watches. But the fact that he won't pay over retail. And other "philosophies" he has.

[@kevinrose5569]

He said he bought a centigraphe from WB. He definitely didn't pay under retail for that. But he seems like a great guy.

[@88bsides]

Seeing these high horology pieces with actual wear on them makes me like them a lot more. Kudos to this guy for not being afraid to get a scratch or 2.

[@h111551]

This video kept me smiling watch by watch.

[@vladinecko]

I really enjoyed this conversation, even more so than any other Talking Watches episode. It was so refreshing to see something other than a sea of identical Rolex models, each from a different decade.

[@FirestormAA]

Wow what a collection! Amazing range!!!!! I keep saying wow, wow & wow!!!!! super humble guy too.

[@simonassouline1230]

Tim always exemplifies the exception, than the norm! Fabulous diversity in Watch brands and aesthetics, with exceptional power plants!

[@marcobarsi7578]

Fantastic collection. I really can't pick my favourite. Definitely one between the Grönefeld , Voutilainen and the Fp Journe.

[@GailitisPrintmaking]

Vey wonderful interview! To see the collaboration between the independents is amazing. The comradery. Growing together, bringing business to others.

[@sbengree]

Great collection, great questions

[@harg8939]

Sick collection from Rick! Tim Seems to beam with pride in this interview. 😉

[@suteeth5573]

RG and LF are my favourite, such a class interview.

[@mrcasioak1521]

This is a great video! That lens quality is amazing. The only thing I'd ask for from Watchbox is 4k60fps (or 120 fps) to see every beat of every gear in the highest time resolution too. Rick's collection is just amazing.

[@ChristianC-kx3ch]

Amazing video and fantastic collection! I love these important collections with so much diversity and many stunning watches. A huge improvements compared to other videos where the "collectors" had 2 vintage rolex and other lightweights which are not worth a video.

[@caliberyqg2137]

Excellent interview showcasing an amazing killer collection of a true enthusiast watch collector! Thanks Rick, and thanks Tim/Watchbox for showcasing Rick and his broad and fascinating collection!

[@7eSens17]

Great eye for independants! Awesome collection Big money on the table

[@pavanbharteey7269]

Always enjoy hearing different collector’s stories and of course anything when Tim’s the host!

[@davidhouston8017]

Great interview Tim. Really love Rick’s collection. Diverse but the design aesthetic and dial legibility tie it all together. Keep this series going!

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Thank you, David. Rick is a great guy who has twice made the trip from Chicago to share parts of his collection. He's an incredibly approachable and accessible guy who's active on various FB platforms - including mine - and open to questions and comments about the pieces he collects. Best, Tim

[@PurposefullyProcured]

This collection is incredibly good. Wow!

[@jimmillett9224]

Another superb episode. Tim is continuing to produce the best watch content on KZbin. Rick's collection is incredible.

[@wolfgang7192]

what a collection 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@o.3825]

Wow really nice to see a somebody whit a watch collection whit personality en not just the average stuff.

[@cdm765]

I love that Tim shits on Journe despite Watchbox’s clear vested interest. Never change Tim!

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Well, I try to be *honest* about my opinion while keeping my message positive. Journe isn't on my shopping list, but I do respect the brand. Now where would I actually spend my indie-watch cash? Rick's collection is a good guide to building a suite of cool pieces from interesting creators. Best, Tim

[@jongoodman7563]

Remiker is my spirit animal. Great interview.

[@gregs.8145]

A true gentleman and a legend watch collector.

[@Breca]

Impressive collection a pleasure to view thanks Tim and Rick.

[@MarcusGLovesWatches]

Great job Tim and Rick

[@shuycg]

@rexhep, sell this gentleman a watch. He clearly deserves it.

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Wow, throwing down the gauntlet! I think a newly manufactured CCII is probably the hardest watch to buy at the moment. I've also heard that the Frodsham Double Impulse Chronometer has an eight-year waiting list, so that would be up there, too. And John Reardon told me that the market for used Patek Grandmaster Chimes is over $4 million when they hit the market, so I assume the AD retail obstacles must be huge. Oddly, super watches like the Greubel Forsey Hand Made 1 and De Bethune Dream Watch 5 Tourbillon remain fairly accessible new and used. And I'll never understand how the Gronefelds have closed their order books but gorgeous Laurent Ferrier watches of all descriptions remain readily available. Best, Tim

[@shuycg]

@@the1916companywatchreviews Gronefeld sell better due to the more modern charisma of the family running it when compared to mister Ferrier. There's also a lot of proud Dutchmen buting them. While Swiss, however proud they'd also be, there are some many other Swiss brands to spread that pride around. The designs of the Ferriers are a bit more classical, relatively. I see Principia is still available. To me the extra water and shock resistance of their newer watch isn't worth the extra 10k anyway. I'd pay 10k extra for a tantalum chronograph, over to the steel counterpart.

[@heljestrand]

Impressive collection and well presented Tim.

[@aminreviews2311]

Amazing video, Rick and Tim. Enjoyed it a lot!

[@chrisenchemin7183]

Thank you for this amaizing vid. I've never seen such collection before, made only with pieces from independant craftsman micro brands!

[@michaelkalb2896]

Very nice collection Rick and well done on the interview!

[@AlexG-ey7md]

Thanks Tim and Rick, outstanding content!

[@chazfromtheburg]

Great collection and great collector. Well done, Tim & Rick!

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Thank you, Chaz! Best, Tim

[@davidelliott948]

Outstanding collection! Great collecting philosophy.

[@watchcollectingstrategy]

Rick is awesome!!! A true watch collector 👊

[@currencyworld]

Great to see a collection with some variety aside from the usual suspects. Great interview as always.

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Rick's an unusual case of a person who actually buys the small brand, obscure brand, and resale-negative watches he likes. There's also good diversity in his collection beyond the independent pieces shown here. You can find my Patek-themed interview with Rick in our "Perpetually Patek" series that I shoot with Brian Govberg. Best, Tim

[@currencyworld]

@@the1916companywatchreviews Thanks Tim. That is the mark of a true collector. I will check it out. Perhaps you can have me on someday if I ever manage to organize my hoard of oddball watches into something coherent and compelling. Best, Alex

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

@@currencyworld That would be fun! Please stay in touch. Best, Tim

[@HRM.H]

Incredible line up watches.

[@BeansAndBezels]

Fantastic collection and video!

[@vc.moser.ferrier]

Wonderful collection

[@herbmerced7780]

Wow! Such great unique watches!

[@johnmonachelli5256]

Good luck following this lineup lol stunning

[@WilsonFPRX]

Love the video & collection, thanks for sharing Rick!

[@jolness1]

Rick has some great stuff. I was thinking he did one of these but that was the Patek series. Love his posts and it’s especially cool to hear about his feelings and philosophy on the watches.

[@deech2086]

Great stuff by two titans in the horology space!! Love the diversity of the collection. Such depth. Well done by both. Great interview!!

[@nikandraathelvete]

There are so many interesting small brands out there.

[@danielgillrup9518]

Remarkable collection!

[@misteratoz]

I love that he seems to love his watches, wear them, and know about them. I'm sad that in our world we have people spending millions on watches when they could use that money to help others.

[@watchmedicine7747]

Great video

[@Joe-xo3xy]

Regarding Habring, this is going to be hilarious; I love them for their designs and mechanics second, whereas, most horological enthusiasts will value them for their mechanics firstly.

[@Joe-xo3xy]

The one exciting thing about Journe is what I hate about it and this is the practicality of the movements; They have been designed with the idea of being modular as well as being robust. In my opinion, this has sort of removed from the aesthetics of the mechanisms. There is definitely some comparison to Rolex when you examine their approach to mechanics; Simple, very high quality, mechanically sound and complex but not superfluous.

[@JeDxDeVu]

Is the voice breaking normal or just sang a lot the day before ?

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Well, no singing, but my voice isn't exactly a strong suit. I'm fortunate to have had a pretty successful social media career without being particularly attractive, provocative, or glamorous. I guess my oddball voice is another bullet dodged. Best, Tim

[@gs2162]

Videography leaves quite a bit to be desired on this.

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

What was wrong? Best, Tim

[@gs2162]

@@the1916companywatchreviews I just feel like you guys are at the top of the game in terms of coverage, and your videography you should reflect as such. This looks like it was done with a phone and not much thought about lighting.

[@tonyzambrota9303]

Rolex, Patek, and AP are all independent companies. Just saying....

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

True, but the independent brands like Journe, DB, Urwerk, and Kari don't see it that way. Within the industry, they refer to themselves as the "indies" to distinguish this type of small-scale creator from companies that employ thousands and gross billions per year. Best, Tim

[@shuycg]

It's more about the power of a lead watchmaker in a given brand. When you don't even know who the lead watchmaker is at Rolex, it's pretty obvious s/he can't be independent to make decisions about the watches being produced. While at their respective brands F.P. Journe, Stephen Forsey, Tim&Bart Gronefeld, Denis Flageollet are calling the (watchmaking) shots.

[@maxxenix]

Hi

[@huxleyorwellrand3137]

What is the narcissistic tendency towards customization? It’s like buying art and customizing it.

[@spoonraker]

Many artists do commissioned work.

[@cdm765]

Because we all struggle with the fact that we are going to die and therefore try to derive meaning from anything and everything. I’d imagine you’re the same with something.

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

I love customization. We did a custom Dan Royter for my Facebook group last year, and we're doing a custom SB04 with Armand Billard this year. Separately, I have a full custom road bike from 2012, and I'm considering buying another with newer tech for next riding season. If I ever get skilled enough with the guitar, I'll probably get a custom one of those, too. Best, Tim

[@maxxenix]

I don’t like the app!

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

Well, we're always attempting to improve it. It's come a long way since version one, so periodically check for updates to see whether it's more to your liking. And if you have a specific suggestion about how we could improve, please let us know. Best, Tim

[@WatchReporter]

very dull whitebread collection. better off to sell the whole thing and buy a rowleks submarine

[@maxxenix]

If you like the app? Like this post!

[@huxleyorwellrand3137]

You’re contempt for FPJ is showing man. Impersonal? That’s rich. Ordering on a website is the very definition of impersonal. You’re becoming less a presenter and more like a shill.

[@the1916companywatchreviews]

You're just noticing now that I'm a salesman for a watch vendor? Best, Tim

[@sorkrot]

this IS watch content. i see why jack moved from dinkee. mainstream lifestyle mag at best

[@anacquiredtaste3582]

Beautiful collection