India's Long Term Strategy to Catch up with China - Abhijit Iyer Mitra

This discussion was organised by India-China Study Circle and Think India International Relations Forum on 22nd June 2021. The speaker is Mr. Abhijit Iyer Mitra, Senior Research Fellow, National Security Programme, Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies (IPCS) and the most popular media commentator on national security issues in India.
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[@mukeshagrawal577]

As on date, nobody can explain better than AIM regarding the state of affairs in India.

[@iampeachy1188]

He is the best in India even when it comes to international affairs

[@zil1832]

@@iampeachy1188 not really.

[@shambhabimishra3214]

😅

[@zil1832]

He is a wannabe equivalent aunty who complains about everything, claims to know about everything without having the full understanding.

[@naiyayika]

@@zil1832 Come on bruh😂

[@rahulbhardwaj100]

Chanakya was a genius. I don't know why his economic policies are not implemented, of having a high level state with only a few areas of operations.

[@abhaypatel4292]

Simple devloment is the answer...you have to constantly evolve ...if you will just stuck your nose in one point of time you will be bashed for going against the time..

[@rahulbhardwaj100]

@Kuldeep D I have seen his interview.His point was the Indira Gandhi was in cahoots with the ussr,and how ussr through its soft power was brainwashing the youth of many countries, to prepare the country for an illegitimate takeover.Your point being that the ussr brainwashed us, and now nobody can look beyond and big and supposedly "benevolent" government?

[@jigsaw2281]

What was chankya policies ???

[@rahulbhardwaj100]

@@jigsaw2281 well according to abhijit iyer mitra, it was to create a high functioning state, where the state specializes only on a few things(like defence, law and order etc).The state intervention in the economy was minimum and taxation was low.

[@jigsaw2281]

@@rahulbhardwaj100 Ok..thanks

[@anishshaw9631]

I'm amazed by the depth of the analysis of Hindu mythology by AIM.

[@s.d.b.5803]

Its not mythology man, get this out of your head. It may be ideology, history, knowledge but it cannot be mythology.

[@jcd776]

Mythology means something that is FALSE and does not deserve to exist.

[@utna_hibura1392]

@@jcd776 lol no...

[@udayanbadola7077]

@@jcd776lol no. myyhology means how the people view their world/ how they describe their world. What u know about mythology is very 19th century definition. 👍 Atheism is also a type of mythology.

[@gurindersingh8109]

Hindu mythologies is all about sex dhokha and conflicts nothing civilized about it

[@kartikahluwalia4795]

i had goosebumps watching this it was incredible we need more

[@damiendehorn6350]

Bangladesh is focused on bottom up development model, RMG to Ceramics to Leather to White Goods to Light Engineering/ICT to Financial Services.

[@Robertsmith001]

Meaningless talk

[@srikanthremani]

AIM is the man -- he is right on the point about western media.

[@shreyasprakash2267]

We r still a British colony in many ways , If we ever want to be a superpower we should look back at the knowledge our ancestors left us

[@vikranthreddy1863]

We have spent 3+ Millennia on that. If only we spend 3 more.

[@sumukhvshankar1652]

AIM is very correct. We have to start planning how to increase the economy. For India education and helth care should be priority

[@bhaskarroy6760]

Within India, there is a big difference in economy & education between South and North except few small pockets. That should be addressed better.

[@yami6499]

I have lived in both north an south...this narrative that the 'south' is somehow years ahead of north in econmoy,education and pretty much everything is kind of a hyperbole. Firstly, the north is much bigger and populated then south which naturally makes it harder. also the gap isn't as much as people like to believe. The infrastructre of northern cities outclasses southern ones...also it's mainly Bengal and bihar that mess up northern states growth. UP's Hdi is low but I have been to all these 3 states an UP's cities are growing rapidly in past few years,theres a mercantalist sentiment there unlike before so... it will likely gro a lot in coming years. Also, having international seaports brings a trading sentiment hich greatly benifited states like karnataka,tamil nau.

[@RahulMishra-ld2bo]

I am requesting Abhijit sir to please provide advice to the government economists about this all .

[@sumukhvshankar1652]

Who will listen to him. All the people in the government are egoistic and will never listen to good advices.

[@gautamkumar007]

First 4 minutes... Hold me for full session 🙏

[@plant_leaf]

His name is Mitra... Abhijit Iyer Mitra😎

[@abhinav.mishra17]

Mathematically, it is not possible for India to catch China unless some major catastrophe hits it and we keep on growing significantly. And, it is highly improbable.

[@govindjayakumar]

It is possible if we dont have elections every week in this country

[@nebber1234]

Mathematically it wasn't possible for china to be where it is as well. If system will be improved and gov stops micro managing then perhaps we fan have exponential growth for 2 decades sometime this century.

[@TR-lb4om]

@@govindjayakumar Problem is not election problem is bad policy

[@cheeahhui2117]

India has tribal DEMOCRACY less talk AND more actions for India to move forward

[@blardymunggas6884]

India’s main problem is lack of critical thinkings. India think with their emotions but chinese thinks with their brains

[@blardymunggas6884]

Also can you see how indian thinks? When they want to catch up with others, they refuse to focus on improving itself but instead they think of how to sabotage other countries to bring others down to India level. That is why all India’s neighbors are moving away from destructive Indian policies.

[@lexneuron]

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[@thisisnumbersix3014]

They should follow Chinese democracy

[@jamfold2956]

@@user_chestnut Translate bro. I don't understand what you're saying.

[@surajitgoswami1871]

AIM says something interesting on Bengal (at the 1hr. 11min. mark) that I have not heard anyone else say lately (but was common knowledge when we were young). He didn't tell you though how that came about. Western knowledge introduced by the British. Do you know there is a tunnel connecting Kolkata and Howrah underneath the Ganges built by the CESC in the 1920s, in which one can walk or the first person born in India to get Nobel (1902) did his work in Kolkata (Ross on Malaria) or that the theory of Relativity was translated from German to English first in the World by two Indians in Kolkata? I agree with the points he made and I know it is negative. Consequently, I offer a solution: reduce the red tape by half and then by another half and export. That's the cheapest solution but it goes against Modi's nature and the self-interest of the bureaucrats. Experiment with the Northeast (Assam and all parts East of Assam). My guess it has the least local red tape. It may even stop China from attacking that part when it finds investments from multinationals from the US, Europe, UK, and Japan in that area.

[@supersuper3493]

Right

[@sujathaviswanathan7210]

We’re an economic colony of China. We don’t have the political will to reform our education, health and infrastructure. There is no way we can catch up with even Bangladesh, leave alone China. We will spend all our time bashing Pakistan. This is the reality. I’ve accepted this completely.

[@durenmengkel4631]

just accept the fact that most Democracy only illumination mostly end up as fascist country fascist need to create imaginary foe to distract grassroot from incapable manage countries

[@jaswindersian3159]

Get back to basics, relevantly strategise, energise tactics engage critical thinking, build quality, improve decision making, laser corruption and stay consistent and persistent in your goals.

[@aryanewsentertainment5703]

Sometimes one needs to hear bitter truth.

[@pawan1855]

what bitter truth...if you talk bitter truth about the defense forces current situation blid patriotics will ask you illogical question and blame you anti-national

[@blardymunggas6884]

The bitter truth is India has no ability to catch up. India is collapsing away further.

[@plant_leaf]

@@pawan1855 exactly

[@vigneshmarivada2422]

@@pawan1855 IF they ask you illogical questions, just slap them with your logic, why fear illogical people......

[@LhnAran]

@@vigneshmarivada2422 if u argues u illogical people, they will bring u down to their level

[@soumenb22]

Very well said for few minutes by AIM. Also our president APJ Kalam said we need nuclear power not to destroy but to show power which will be required for peace

[@dharma7766]

Well done bro.. You have fans from China and Pak following you.. Shows that even they respect your perception enough to criticise you.. Vetri Vel Veera Vel...

[@syedsajid630]

Ya ghando RSS ka agent hai

[@siddharthabanerjee4076]

Abhijit Iyer Mitra - How can any single person at such young age have such deep knowledge that expands vertically and horizontally. Always amazed

[@plant_leaf]

He is around 45, he said

[@AnupamBhogal]

His comment on swara bhaskar was funny!

[@mohammedevan9150]

Loved the deep analytical discussion along with the good positive criticisms he did which would really help in the betterment of our country. Education is really an important sector where changes should come. Positive criticisms like these are necessary for our advancement and this might help in solving the bottlenecks.

[@kevinfanhu2479]

A high-income economy is defined by the World Bank as a nation with a gross national income per capita of US$12,536 or more in 2019, calculated using the Atlas method. While the term "high-income" is often used interchangeably with "First World" and "developed country", the technical definitions of these terms differ. 2500 dollars left

[@IndiaKaregaDhanda]

46:58 😂😂 abhijeet expression after that sarcastic voice of sir.

[@sanjivanimishra347]

😂😂😂

[@yiquny]

India is already ahead of China, as many think. So, do not worry. Just be happy.

[@IndranilFromIndia]

Great discussion - for getting demographic dividend you have to create jobs. If growing employment can absorb a large young population it can be productive.

[@shuvajitdutta4515]

It is very difficult to bring reforms in India. Even if the government wants to it will be forced back. Look at what is happening with farm laws. We keep trolling our leading industrialists like Adani and Ambani. If we are not able to change our mindset we will continue to slide

[@prakharmishra3997]

Well said friend

[@Tintin-gv9ir]

we need TAFE like Australian I met 2 kids yesterday here in AUS . I asked them what do they wanna become after school . Answer was plumber or electrician even on Tinder girls want trades ... Lol all money wasted in my education in India . I wish I was a plumber

[@Robertsmith001]

You are pretty ignorant tbh

[@nukeengineer5214]

Avril, speak with conviction Bro

[@ambindia]

Electricity? Distribution is a joke in most states

[@ray32825]

You mean it's like sarcasm - most Indians don't get it! 😆

[@satyampandey9006]

Agree with Abhijit so much. Unless our country learns to blame itself for its problems, it cant move forward.

[@shekharbanerjee3951]

As always aim rocks

[@davidmecha8791]

In the first 3:00 min, my eyes were closed and the video was playing... When AIM started talking about ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, महेश I thought I am listening to Devdutt pattanaik.

[@cosmicsindhu6311]

Really good identification of some flaws in the government/educational systems intelligence and heart isn't rising to the right positions

[@sumukhvshankar1652]

We should spend at least 20 lakh crore every year on education alone to make India great economy.

[@MegaLeoben]

No man we need that money to pay military pensions

[@sanu1231000]

Online education companies like Unacademy, BYJU etcs are democratising education alot. Still we need a big push from government.

[@sanu1231000]

@Priyesh Kumar I know... Even Whitehat Jr.

[@mikeagate]

How long term? 50 years 60 years 100 years The fact is, India 🇮🇳 can never catchup with China 🇨🇳. It lacks the social and cultural structure, political and economic policies, natural resources and a vision. What has so far been achieved is a miracle. Can it be sustained? Difficult to say.

[@pradyumn2692]

True that. India can never catch up to China. But it can surely sustain. That's the quality of a vibrant democracy. Changes are slow but lasting.

[@kshitiz06]

“Catching up with China” will be a wrong goal. As long as India can keep focusing on bettering itself, it would suffice. America developed, and then plateaued. Japan developed and plateaued. China is about to reach that plateau as well. It seems to be built in to law of nature. As long as India can focus on right economic policies and not make mistakes made by others, it should be fine. Most people don’t dream about having a living standard that exists in west. They will happily live in their own motherland, as long as their life keeps improving. So decade by decade, if India keeps improving, it will be sufficient.

[@Ravi9A]

hahhahahahhahahhahahhahahhaa Cope harder Imagine wanting to catch up to a country that is going to collapse in 10 years due to having no babies.

[@cimonkien9833]

India is in a vicious circle. Therefore is best to let China take over India so India can progress in all field.

[@theinfralink6598]

I found his assertion that China will fall for the so called middle income trap and not get into high income bracket a bit strange as the world bank defines high income as $12696 or more per capita GDP while China’s GDP will reach 12000 in 2021.

[@vanshstalin1402]

He means china will not cross 30000 US dollars rate

[@akshayakumarpatra1850]

Modi's skill India push is no more a slogan now like swachh Bharat Yojana! Huge work force work with primitive knowledge a, practice and tools. Skill India institutions are just wasting money on idle staffs.

[@divyashetty3832]

To summarize what aim said ill give an eg. In lockdown the government schools are hardly functional even though the teachers are paid really well but most of the private schools within a fortnight created the complete online teaching infrastructure with out any gov support and our gov and courts instead to giving them a carrot gave them only sticks by telling them to reduce their fees by 30 to 50%. So gov wont give any discounts on ur tax bt will tell dictate terms with private sector.. same happened with hotel n tourism sector, Malls etc etc. Biggest vidambna is we dont have change the govt option.

[@soorajnair150]

I have seen AIM ranting so much that now I can predict his lines

[@faketrump3605]

this is a smart man. what did he predict on the China's income or living standard? by the way, how do Indians see China as adversary? based on what?

[@Robertsmith001]

Too many things to list

[@KhanBhai-rj3ny]

Aim is star among RW

[@shashankkumar2106]

He's so right about everything wrong with India.

[@Z11-c3f]

All the good channels are under rated

[@zil1832]

*Are Afghan me naya sasak ko badhai dene ke bad bhot din tereko dekha nhi re Abhijeet, kha chhupa tha?😍😍*

[@dharma7766]

Where do I find a team of a entrepreneurs that I can work with in T.N? Any suggestions?

[@nukeengineer5214]

You become one, by thinking and acting like one

[@iampeachy1188]

The app called "Apna" has a lot of people doing business , may be that can help

[@trishul9117]

Super Abhijit.

[@parassaini9748]

Considering world as a stage , after listening to AIM I considered India to be in the auditions.

[@rahullalotra3347]

Right to recall and jury system is the solution.

[@Sunny12-23]

AIM as articulate and clear as ever unfortunately he paints a depressing picture. What is even more depressing is that he is right.

[@namelesswarrior4760]

LONG TERM IS THE KEY WORD HERE! BETTER GET STARTED THEN COS IT IS A VERY LONG TERM INDEED

[@chandlerminh6230]

USA has virtually unlimited resources-most importantly land. China has modernised form of slανεry. We Indians should pave our own path instead of aspiring to be like them.

[@sumukhvshankar1652]

The current economists in the government are the worst idiots. They are killing Indian economy. Im really not optimistic if this trend continues

[@jaysu8669]

Nonsense, It is China that needs to catch up with India.

[@adityapassi5626]

AIM is soo articulate and funny 😆

[@diarraoussoumane5452]

30 to 40 years go India has the same size of economy as China wha go wrong for India

[@anish7183]

democracy

[@OnkarShrma]

Finally something new fresh analysis from Abhijit.

[@magicsingh2585]

Brilliant

[@pratapmudbidri9140]

Abhijit your assessment of Taliban will never take Kabul is proved WRONG, SO DON'T GIVE STRATEGIC GYAN BS

[@bennychua8957]

Today sorry to say Bangladesh economy is almost par to India. How to catch up with China?

[@naiyayika]

By 2030, India will be a third of China. By 2040, 2/3 rd of India. By 2050, China will watch India go ahead.

[@lisa.e5776]

@@naiyayika haha.

[@pratikpal5565]

When will this man be back?

[@sukhbirnaidu4360]

The bottom 30% will always need free stuff, and a political party in a first past the post system will always need a voter base, so welfare will always be a thing. That isn't too bad, too. You need investment in social goods for a society to progress. There is no way India can ever get rid of socialism. So, we have to make it work for us. By investing in education and health. People who don't have even the basics can't be expected to be entrepreneurial and creative. So, give the people the basics. Give then some money too, because the money in the hands of the poor gets spent, and that keeps demand for goods hugh, and boosts the economy. But don't make the ENTIRE thing socialist. Allow the middle class, or better still, force the middle class to get entrepreneurial. Don't give jobs to people. Give then opportunities instead. For the top 30%, give them access to the best in education and healthcare for a price. Let the market give then the best, but let these be for a market price. Benchmark the top 10% with the best in the world. Don't clip the wings of the winners. Rather, give then wings. Feed the poor, but don't shame the rich. The rich aren't responsible for the poverty of the poor. Stop making the rich the villains. There's no exploitation. There's only market forces at work. Never redistribute. Never get all communist. Serve the poor, but don't stifle the rich. The engine at the front should pull forward. The load at the back shouldn't hold back. The middle mustn't slosh around, it must be stable. That's the way forward. I think. Let the animal spirits soar, but don't make it a jungle. Let there be compassion for the poor, but let the passion for great things and a good life be a desirable, actually, a celebrated thing too. For all the dirt that's heaped upon the economics of the present ruling dispensation, I think it got the mix just right. Nal se Jal hoga Aur Reliance aur Ambani bhi Midday meals hoga Aur Mutual Funds bhi Free vaccines honge Aur profitable pharma companies bhi That's the way to go Just like we are, now We just need to keep tweaking and fine-tuning this in line with the election cycle, and going full throttle whenever the road is wide and straight Slowing down when there are bends and bumps in the path of the world economy does result in momentary slowdowns every now and then But what matters is, whenever we happen to hit a good stretch on our way forward, are we hitting it full throttle? Going by the recent Reliance AGM, for instance, I think we are.

[@youreconomicsguide8488]

States can do it

[@AnnieT369]

I think catch up with Bangladesh first.

[@kumarsiva5843]

But china had one child policy n this helped.

[@TheControlPhilosopher]

Pause this video at 6:12 & see the devil!

[@anirbankanungoe5873]

I feel so hopeless now

[@pratyushbarikdev]

You should feel the opposite. Its a huge opportunity.

[@anon7642]

redpill !!!!!!

[@boysiedent6149]

Ok, Ok, Ok, - I want to run a race with you - over a distance of ( 1KM ) - ok, I want you to give me a 2/3 of one KM start - and if I do not win - then You have lost - ok

[@akashshukla5894]

Hindi me krdo apni commentary...subscribers bad jayenge

[@ConmanRajat]

Ashoka jab raja bana chanakya mar gaya tha jhandu balm, ashoka ki policy chanakya se puri alag thi

[@mpattanaik7]

hislam also we dont stand upto china

[@ConmanRajat]

How it will become high income country have you seen their population, that's why they made cheap product which ultimately increase their saving ghochu

[@ConmanRajat]

Technolgy transfer karega corruption kaise hoga kaise lodu modi ne Rafale deal me technology transfer ko ban kiya

[@theinfralink6598]

Never seen a person talking so much nonsense with so much confidence.

[@bhaveshdk]

. Om

[@iampeachy1188]

Western shit LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@himalaya177]

Lol.

[@vaidybala5596]

Focus on technical education to innovate and boost manufacturing, copy China and enforce discipline. Not advice, but be practical, then think about Brahman. If the stomach is not filled brain loses clarity. India will be stuck up. Sanskritise Hindi and revamp politics and judiciary based on Vedas thus using accumulated wisdom.

[@ConmanRajat]

Baman

[@saleemsajid8319]

Is sa bara chooro india na moodi ka bad paida nahin kia.

[@majidjahangirjanjua9399]

FREEDOM FOR KASHMIR ACCORDING TO U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION AND WISHES OF THE PEOPLE.

[@PragyaTGupta]

can not be because all communities are not included

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

Sure sure 😂😂

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

UN resolution says Pakistan must first vaccate Pakistan occupied Kashmir then Indian army will come in and get a Plebiscite done.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

Tayyar Hai Pakistan?

[@indianancientsage]

N.... L.... P..... F...... M... N.....

[@majidjahangirjanjua9399]

FREEDOM FOR KASHMIR ACCORDING TO U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION AND WISHES OF THE PEOPLE.

[@scatteringparameters.4167]

Don't spam chomu 🤡

[@gufestus4106]

Yes. Kashmir will soon be free from Pakistan and become the rightful part of India. 😊

[@manojbhardwaj9472]

That is the reason we call Pakistanis uneducated. First step of the UN resolution is for Pakistan army to withdraw to Aug 1947 line, so vacate Occupied Kashmir first.

[@anonymouslyopinionated656]

kitna jhootsh bolta hai lol

[@AjayTiwari-en9nz]

So when is Punjabistan freeing occupied Balochistan and Pakhtunistan?