In this video we discuss the differences and similarities between the Indian made replica of the French Model, AN IX and the original French AN IX musket
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@free_at_last81415 ай бұрын
I love the internet for this. In a world of billions, there will be at least one person who has decided to detail whatever you're interested in.
@FrederickMohler5 ай бұрын
I find the attempt at historical accuracy between the indian made guns compared to other higher priced replicas amazing. Am often much happier in my purchase of the indian made models when choosing to make modifications.
@jasoncook56905 ай бұрын
Just pulling out original parts so casually, great success
@ronrobertson595 ай бұрын
I been tempted to buy an Indian musket. As for Pedersoli muskets I bought an 1816 flintlock Pedersoli and found the lock was much smaller than an original 1816 a friend of mine had. Spending alot of money on a brand name doesn't mean it is historically accurate.
@gotsloco18105 ай бұрын
I found several differences between my Harpers Ferry M1841(1852 Prod.) and the Pedersoli M1841 I purchased. The sights are the biggest differences. I do need to admit the original has the long range rear sight and bayonet lug. The front sight on the Pedersoli is about twice the width and twice the height of the original. Both are 54 CAL. I have not done a comparison with the Antonio Zoli M1841 in 58 CAL. I picked up a few months ago.
@ronrobertson595 ай бұрын
@@gotsloco1810 I had a 1841 in the 1855 arsenal rework done by James Rivers I had Bobby Holt reline the barrel to the correct progressive rifling. It shot great but unfortunately I ended up selling in in 2008 for medical bills.
@usnchief13395 ай бұрын
The replicas are beefier by about 10-15%. Plenty of room for treating these replicas as a kit. I am currently totally redoing my sea service pistol...losing 10-15% of steel/brass and restocking in walnut. Thanks for the video!
@Real11BangBang2 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@johnkeck10255 ай бұрын
Ever since having discovered yalls channel a couple years ago I've wanted a 1766 charleville musket
@earlshaner44415 ай бұрын
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY brother and everyone thank you for sharing your adventures and information
@ArizonaGhostriders5 ай бұрын
Great comparison. Wish the old one could talk.
@Schlachtschule5 ай бұрын
Well done, a very erudite analysis! Even if we don't care enough to change them, we should always be aware of the differences between our replicas and the originals. I have to say I am very tired of the "thickness" of many modern replicas because they affect the balance and handling. I have a EuroArms P-1853 Enfield, and compared to an original it is heavy and clumsy, and that *does* affect shooting.
@ChanakyanStudent79714 ай бұрын
I'm an Indian and it's crazy how you can buy these on the other corner of the planet, but if I buy this it'll be a felony.
@ol1guy9945 ай бұрын
Thanks, its a beautiful flintlock
@dougdukes10395 ай бұрын
Good video Ethan...... Great information
@CaptRons18thcentury5 ай бұрын
Good side by side analysis... I am finally home from Guilford Courthouse... catching up on my youtube viewing...
@bobsmalser83043 ай бұрын
Napoleon's musket. Over seven MILLION were made all over Europe. The different manufacturers account for these minor differences and more.
@gunsnwater26685 ай бұрын
You such nice work 👏 👍 thanks for making the video.
@carlericvonkleistiii21885 ай бұрын
Another great video. Your depth of knowledge is, as always, impressive. I like your facts based comparison that points out differences without belittling the Indian product, and your recognition of their efforts to produce a reasonably accurate reproduction for the consumer market.
@Real11BangBang2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@josephwalukonis99345 ай бұрын
I believe its pronounced AN for Annee (year IX) and not A and N. Don't mean to be critical. Your original is very nice and the Indian repro is not bad - just a little heavy in the stock as you pointed out. I used to reenact and sometimes shoot. I am just too wobbly walking nowadays. 10:12
@TheGunfighter45acp5 ай бұрын
Outstanding! Thanks for another great and detailed comparison. The Indian made musket looks robust, but the original was probably much more handier to lug and live with in the field for the average soldier. Both seem like attributes to me. 👍👍
@micwell22475 ай бұрын
See no prob with buying an India made. What I do have a prob with is other reenactors shaming people who did buy an India made. All the while they jump into their Volvo's and B M'er's
@A14b195 ай бұрын
I thing that’s why they made different so as no to be passed off as originals . Notice trigger is more forward . Is that a problem!Still hand made like originals would that be correct? Great program I will get one . Recommend the Indian musket and can you get replacement parts ! Here in uk they are holed and proof marked
@a.r.m.4you1825 ай бұрын
Your barrel band springs were made very well on your Indian gun and look great. I think my Charleville may have been made in a hurry since my bands and springs don't look quite as nice as yours. Very cool to see the original/repro side by side.
@Florida_frontiersman5 ай бұрын
Really insightful!
@revere03115 ай бұрын
Another great video
@Real11BangBang4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@charlescomly15 ай бұрын
I would have enjoyed seeing a video of you working on your defarbing and working in your musket stock, however I really enjoy all your video's, till next time friend, enjoy life.
@FolkFirearmsCollective2 ай бұрын
Awesome. Great video.
@Real11BangBang2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@noapologizes20185 ай бұрын
Good Morning gentlemen. What you did with the Charleville is fabulous. I have an India made Brown bess I purchased from another company, and the stock at the forearm is thick. Do you know if this is typical for the India Brown bess. I wasn't happy with it due to the overall thickness of the stock. Do you think there is enough room to remove some of that material.
@Real11BangBang4 ай бұрын
If it is too thick there's always enough room to thin it on down 😊
@noapologizes20184 ай бұрын
@@Real11BangBang Thanks guys. BTW, I shot it this weekend, and yes it felt like a log, but the lock is spot on. The timing is great.
@williamschlosser775 ай бұрын
Ty
@jasoncook56905 ай бұрын
Great video as always warcrime woody!!
@JWheeler3315 ай бұрын
Wow those are beautiful.
@Real11BangBang2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@garydavis18453 ай бұрын
The barrel bands on your repros would look better switched.The one you did the work on should have narrower bands.
@Real11BangBang3 ай бұрын
If you're talking about the 1766 I pull up at the end. Those barrel bands are cast off of an original 1766's barrel bands from the rifle shop. They've still got the arsenal markings from the casting process on the sides
@adamsimon6094 ай бұрын
Hey Ethan, have you ever shot the Prussian M1809 “Potsdam” musket? I know Pedersoli makes the earlier flintlock version and I believe Military Heritage does too, I have an original from 1837 converted to percussion in 1843, was wondering if youve ever shot one or what your opinion is of them, would love to see a video of one if ever possible!
@Real11BangBang4 ай бұрын
So no, I have actually never shot a potstom however, that was actually the very first original piece that I ever got to hold in my hands of that timer due to my father-in-law owning an original 1809 And I've got to say I love the way it feels and I love the way it looks. Hopefully one of these days I'll get one
@LeatherbarkАй бұрын
The main gripe I have with the India musket is the trigger guard is too far to the rear causing the trigger to be ridiculously close to the front of the guard. Looks goofy.
@richardpashos5 ай бұрын
Is there any original artifact blueprints of muskets?
@ericpennington65305 ай бұрын
Hey bud im about to order my first musket ever from military heritage, im torn between the Northwest trade gun and the French 1777 cavalry carbine, any recomendations on choosing between the two would be a great help. Love the videos thanks man.
@Real11BangBang2 ай бұрын
I realize I'm a little late to this, but it would all depend on what you're going for. If you're going to reenact here in the United States say out west in the Northwest trade again will be the way to go. If you're doing Napoleonic or reenacting well then the 1777 would be the way to go. As for a fun shooter me personally, I would also go with the 1777
@ericpennington65302 ай бұрын
I went with the Northwest trade gun, I got it all defarbed , I finished that super shiny barrel and I love it, it's a blast to shoot,thanks for the reply bud👍
@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike23 күн бұрын
Your defarbing looks really good!
@Real11BangBang22 күн бұрын
Thank you so much
@n7justin994Ай бұрын
I have a pedersoli charleville 1777 Musket and it has the pin hole for the ramrod spring...
@louisianagray86185 ай бұрын
Yeah just in the picture you could tell the wood was thinner on the original when you started the video it was that obvious an old Cher comes real close you made her look real good but
@Real11BangBang4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@flmason5 ай бұрын
Where does one find these Indian muskets for sale? What brand is it?
@generalgrant20034 ай бұрын
Website is Military Heritage, be aware it comes without the flash hole drilled you can fix that though!
@fortsecondchance55515 ай бұрын
How come y’all never replied to me proving y’all wrong on mounted infantry/dragoons reference Duke De Parma in the 1500’s? Y’all just gloss over it? I learn new stuff all the time….no way we can know it all.
@Real11BangBang5 ай бұрын
I Probably didn't respond to it because I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Did you make a video or something
@Real11BangBang5 ай бұрын
And yes, I'm always willing to admit whenever I'm wrong matter of fact I even admit it in this very video several times of things I was wrong on in the past
@Real11BangBang5 ай бұрын
I have checked your channel and I do not see any videos that you have made on this subject or anything else. So I'm assuming you were talking about a comment. And seriously, if you want to prove me wrong on something, go ahead and make a video on it. Don't just leave a short little comment
@ZackLongdick5 ай бұрын
I love the 19th century and the old west! I wish I could travel back in time to that time period and stay there! I was born in the wrong time period 🥺