Indiana Jones 5 Delayed and Why it Changes Nothing

[@spacemanspiralcatzero]

I loved Temple of Doom. Even though I saw Raiders in the theater, Doom is always the most memorable for me. Every one of my younger family members have received a “kali-maaaa”.

[@davidjoe3368]

@@lamarravery4094 Hahahahhahaa!!!!

[@Ancientreapers]

23:31 The Last Crusade ended perfectly with everyone riding off into the sunset which is how it should have stayed.

[@Matthew075]

As much as I would love Indiana Jones to never go away.. I have to agree with you.

[@parkercowan8648]

Well when the Star Wars prequels came out, crystal skull had to be made

[@chorchalvarez]

Let´s say that crystal skull was a "second ending" for the saga. Indy retires ,get married and that was the end of his adventures... then Disney happened

[@John-tj9to]

@@parkercowan8648 why?

[@John-tj9to]

Well spielberg intended it that way so he's to blame for Indy 4 cos he let himself be hen pecked by bloody Lucas into doing another and ruining his own sunset ending.

[@dreplays3280]

Harrison is gunna be 81 when Indy 5 is out damn that’s insane

[@AcesnEights698]

When you need to drag out an 80 year old to rehash your action hero, there's definitely something wrong. That stated, Crystal Skull was bad enough but it didn't completely emasculate him like current year folks so viciously want to do.

[@theflyingninja1]

Charles Bronson was still blowing away muggers into his 80s.

[@theflyingninja1]

@@killvader1001 If you only like films that mirror real life, I guess yeah it would be.

[@elrodimusflash9331]

81. Or dead

[@elrodimusflash9331]

@@theflyingninja1 nope by then Bronson was 20 years I to retirement

[@MattMovies611]

I still remember walking out of the theater from Crystal Skull with my brother and Dad and us talking about how it felt like the series was being set up to be about Mutt going forward. I’m honestly interested to know if Lucas actually had any script ideas with that in mind

[@mpjedi212]

I would totally see "Mutt Williams vs. The Atomic Ants" or "Mutt Williams vs. The Blob" Which, IF the idea was to spin off a new franchise, is what they were likely aiming for. It wasn't about Mutt "taking over" as Indiana Jones. The entire visual story of the wedding scene bit with the hat is underlining that in bold type.

[@rameybutler6555]

crystal skull wasnt horrible. but they shouldnt have "pg'ed" it. shia was a great actor who should have passed on this role.

[@admiralseabass8993]

@@rameybutler6555 yes, Spielberg totally PGd the film, to the point where the camera would cut away from bad guys doing bad things.

[@88feji]

Sorry but Mutt is the worst character out of all the characters.... Shia looks like a kid trying to be Night Fever disco John Travolta or Fonzi from the tv show Happy Days... not cool at all and tonally outside of the Indiana Jones universe ..

[@joevictor53]

How? The final scene literally shows what every expected with Mutt going to take over and Indy coming along and being like "NOPE!"

[@koreancanuck]

I agree Temple of Doom is really underrated. It’s a great action adventure movie! The first 3 Indy films are iconic adventure films!

[@Truth2023]

Temple of Doom has always been my favourite of the four

[@koreancanuck]

@@Truth2023 it’s a great one! The best action and stunts ever even to this day.

[@momentumstocks3493]

Raiders was one of the best movies ever made. It was new and made in a different era. Ford was superb and tailor made for the part. NOW....it is starting to look a bit silly. He's 20 years too late

[@koreancanuck]

@@momentumstocks3493 he’s filming Indy 5 at 79 years old. He’s in good shape for 79 but they should’ve made this film much sooner. Crystal skull was 14 years ago! If they were going to make another one after that, i wonder why they delayed it that long.

[@halley4032]

@@koreancanuck Absolutely, and what new, young fan wouldn't want to emulate an 81 year old, existing in a bygone era 🤣🤣🤣

[@carlo2384]

Wow. 100% agree with your take on the series. Raiders is perfect and Temple was an action packed blast ... always thought a cartoon series in the spirit of Batman the Animated series would have been great. Thank you Michael!

[@RoverIAC]

You've probably seen this. It would be awesome if they made it. The Adventures of Indiana Jones by Patrick Schoenmaker (Animated) kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3abp2iNeceVeZY&ab_channel=FrameOrder

[@carlo2384]

@@paltrax young Indiana Jones chronicles? that wasn't animated.

[@carlo2384]

@@paltrax have you ever seen the young batman animated series?

[@carlo2384]

@@paltrax I haven't watched Gotham. is it an animated series with a teenaged batman?

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

@@paltrax I'm pretty sure he was talking about Batman Beyond, a series about an elderly and embittered Bruce Wayne training a young man to become a Batman for a new, futuristic Gotham. It's in the same universe as BTAS, don't worry.

[@pawarl.o.s.881]

Last Crusade is easily one of my favorite movies. If only it was the last one.

[@Kickback-dm7zt]

Agreed.

[@varsityathlete9927]

it is the last one!

[@G7M9W]

@@varsityathlete9927 True - Indy rode of into the sunset, which was a fitting end. I still wonder and imagine what happened to Luke, Han, and Leia after the Emperor was killed and that Ewok party.

[@fareed3764]

Quentin tarantino : " The most boring Indiana jones".

[@pentastarr666]

River Phonix was the perfect young Indy. Would have been cool to see more of him in that part. RIP River 💔

[@donmiles4581]

Melinda during the One-Season Wonders Panel: 'What I DON'T understand, is how we had no shortage of Saturday morning cartoons with strange concepts and weird ideas.....but never an Indiana Jones cartoon. It would have been PERFECT to have him go on different adventures every week to different places all around the world! And even if the producers feel that insipid need to put a kid character in everything, putting Short Round with Indiana would have still worked!' 👏

[@varsityathlete9927]

lets not give disney+ ideas!

[@donmiles4581]

@@varsityathlete9927 Good point!👍😄

[@jonacheson]

At the time, pressure from various busybodies forced cartoons to include educational content, which is how the "knowing is half the battle" segments got tacked on to G.I. Joe. An Indiana Jones cartoon would have been perfect for that environment, you would have Indy go on a kickass adventure, and at the end you get a bonus segment with background info about some place, event or thing that appeared in the show. Heck you could even get your educational content in as exposition.

[@donmiles4581]

@@jonacheson 100%!! On all counts!👍 Especially about exposing kids to geography and different cultures. (e.g. Even though it honestly fell into stereotypical depictions at times, it was definitely one of the STRENGTHS.... of M.A.S.K.!) Basically like you said: It had some geography through adventures during the show, and a PSA at the end. So if even M.A.S.K. (a relatively lesser known property) made that concept work, Indiana Jones.....could have knocked it out of the park!

[@VorpalDerringer]

@@jonacheson They did that with Cities of Gold, and they added little segments like that to Mighty Max. Plus, Raider's already have Indy do that when he's talking to the army intelligence guys about the Ark of the Covenant!

[@EpicJasonX9000]

despite many of the fans demanding it and now even the media calling for her removal after numerous failures and controversies, Kathleen Kennedy was given 3 more years to be in charge of Lucasfilm. at this point, both Disney & Lucasfilm has sealed their fate by absolutely refusing to listen to any of the fan's criticisms and they have no intentions in getting better.

[@voltinator]

Kathleen is married to Frank Marshall who is a massive Hollywood producer. They probably don't want to offend the hubby.

[@EpicJasonX9000]

@@voltinator and yet they'll continue to offend everyone else while losing money and further damaging their reputations in the process. cause logic & common sense is as lost as the Ark Of The Covenant at Disney & Lucasfilm.

[@voltinator]

@@EpicJasonX9000 Just reporting the facts here. There is a rumor however that Bob Chapek is reigning in the creators at Disney to avoid more politicized disasters. It's highly rumored that Chapek wants the Avengers to be led by Tony Stark's Iron Man again and is putting the kibosh on all of the wonky progressive replacements found in the comics.

[@EpicJasonX9000]

@@voltinator except that's a rumor, not a fact. in either case, with everything going on at Disney as of late, I don't think anyone can ever trust them ever again.

[@Wolf359inc]

All hope is not lost for Lucasfilm, though, while they still have Dave Filoni and Kevin Fiege working on the Mandoverse. There are no redeeming qualities in the sequel trilogy, but what F2 are doing is a shining light in an otherwise dark universe… I will forever be disappointed at the wasted opportunity to get the band back together, even if it was only for a single scene, especially as three of them have now passed on (Carrie, Kenny, and Peter).

[@Godsize1976]

I think the real tragedy of all of these 80’s revival attempts is that studios, producers and writers just plain old aren’t talented enough to make anything that is anywhere close to the quality of the originals and fans can’t let it go and move on effectively precisely because nothing new and original and of quality is being produced. I realize there might be isolated examples, but few are franchises. I think the only significant one has been Marvel… but that has also ended now.

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

Writing has certainly gone down the drain for sure. They rely on pop culture references and cheap humour to get by and sadly that's enough to please the dummed down masses.

[@momentumstocks3493]

I haven't seen a good movies since about 2010. They are getting worse and worse. Re-makes, sequels, prequels, Nothing new and politics have ruined them

[@stephens4175]

I'm 50 and was around for those first 2 films when they were released in the thatres, and I noticed since the Temple of Doom they dragged their feet on anything Indy with the last crusade being a roaring success and still broken promise after broken promise to the fans, I could see after that there was no love

[@redadamearth]

As an Indy fan since 1981, as kids, we're the ones who kept the momentum going. By putting on a hat, buying (or making) a whip and going into the forest or even our back yards. Taking our video cameras and making our own Indy movies, writing Indy stories in our notebooks, etc. Indiana Jones was such a wide-open concept that we kept it alive in our imaginations, despite the lack of merchandise (or cartoon - and I agree with you, that would have been wonderful; there was the Atari game, which was...interesting, although disappointing as a kid; there was the toy line, which I have now, in '82, which was beautiful, but released too late and almost ahead of its time as the playsets were practically dioramas). As for the films, I think both sequels are inferior to "Raiders" in almost every way - but there are many things I enjoy about them (true story: as a kid, seeing Last Crusade, on the car ride home, I was *angry* and saying that it was a Disney/cartoon version of "Raiders..." lol). As for Indy 4, that was just abysmal. Now from what I've read of the plot and what I've seen on the filming, I'm actually encouraged about 5 - not just by Mangold, who I've always loved as a director - but by the concept, which I think could be great. Will it be as good as "Raiders"? Of course not. That film was lightning in a bottle. It probably won't even touch the other two sequels. But as a fan who's kept that "momentum" going in my imagination all these years, I just would love to see Indy again - and I have a feeling it's going to be a much better film that people are expecting. As for the plans, I recommend reading the 1978 story conference between Spielberg, Kasdan and Lucas, to see that it was always meant to be a trilogy. There were always going to be 3 films. That's why Spielberg didn't want to come back to it and had to be convinced. The "Bond" reference was mainly about a heroic main character with tales of intrigue, etc., not a direct reference, etc. But just as a pleasure, I recommend that story conference, as it really reveals how many ideas they had at the time for the series and the character.

[@srs5933]

Great comment. I also like the director and hope you're right, but - he hasn't written the script has he? The story was the problem last time..

[@R.J.Godzilla81]

@18:22 I don’t know after the Holiday Special, I can see why George wouldn’t want hand over control to someone else. And now with Disney we see what Lucas handing over control of his characters and properties looks like.

[@Just-Eric]

Michael is so completely right. That is EXACTLY what it feels like to be an Indiana Jones fan. I have never felt so spoken to in all my life. Also with all the tie in media, I've tried some of the comics and wasn't impressed, maybe I just looked at the wrong ones, and it's been years, but I don't get the impression I'm missing great comics. There are absolutely great star wars comics I can point people to, am I missing the great Indiana Jones comics? Because the ones I read I would describe as fine. Same thing with the novels, there is no great Indiana Jones novel you can point to, there's a few fine ones and some bad ones. I can't speak to the video games as I'm not much of a gamer but I've always heard good things about those. Indiana Jones isn't just de-prioritized next to Star Wars it's quality control seems to be significantly lower as well.

[@35djecho]

Hey Mike, do you think a recast would work now after how poorly Indy 4 did along with issues with Indy 5? Great channel btw, I may not see eye to eye with you all the time but you do great work!!

[@SithLotus]

Missed you!! It has been almost two weeks without a retroblast!! Thank you

[@TheProphetJoshua]

Ah...the slow adult revelation that some important thing to you was another guy's day at the office.

[@MR.AIRWALK]

What are u babbling about..

[@stevie_616]

Seems Lucasfilm now has a track record of delaying or cancelling projects.

[@Kickback-dm7zt]

You mean MUCASfilm

[@RednaxIsHere]

Always has been since Kennedy was in charge.

[@Kickback-dm7zt]

@@RednaxIsHere 100 % agreed

[@spacemanspiralcatzero]

Rip Rogue Squadron

[@jordel2010]

This video has been enlightening in more than one way. George Lucas lured Steven Spielberg into Raiders of The Lost Ark by appealing to Spielberg's intentions to do a James Bond film; and yet, for a character whose premise (according to Lucas) was to be someone who would rival Bond, they ended up dropping the ball by not making Indy as ever present a figure as Bond has been since 1962 (even with that hiatus from 1989 to 1995). Also, I think that an animated series would have improved somehow Indy's merchandising potential; Michael gave a great example with Rambo and The Force of Freedom. The same could be said about the video games, just look at Lara Croft.

[@gijoedavec-straightfromthepit]

THIS was Amazing! You sir are extremely talented at doing these videos. Loved it. You brought justice to my favorite film of all time. My family and I went and saw that in the theater back then multiple times. I was only 6 years old but remember so much from being there. Thanks Mike. Totally Awesome retrospective and thoughtful insight

[@brucemcclelland1919]

Damn you broke this down very well. I have screamed this for years but never so concisely.

[@pspboy7]

I loved Willow! Yes, it failed, but it has become a cult classic movie, and in my opinion, that has preserved it's status of a much loved film.

[@Maria_Erias]

That movie was so good! And the old NES game of it was fantastic.

[@TorontoJon]

The soundtrack by the late James Horner was great too. :)

[@marywesling8059]

I liked Willow.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

This made me recall watching the Temple of Doom along with my family and several neighbors from grandpa's Sony Betamax and Trinitron tv at the lawn. I think there were more than ten kids, including me, cramped in front of the tv who were staring quietly at the tv and were so fixated even after seeing someone's heart being held by the priest after removing it from that poor fella.

[@PuertoGeekan]

Spot on, Michael. Perhaps it would've been better for the Indy franchise to not have cast Harrison Ford initially. As much as I love him in the part, Ford's tight identification with the character never really allowed for a Bond like franchise to ever come to fruition.

[@grayfox6518]

The Dark Horse Indiana Jones comics were probably the closest thing we ever got to a faithful expansion of Indiana Jones beyond the Last Crusade. It's like you said though, they slipped up when they typecasted Harrison Ford as being the 'only' Indiana Jones.

[@jamessmith563]

Really interesting video. I think there are lots of studios that would kill for a legacy franchise like Indiana Jones but sadly it doesn’t get the love it deserves. Changing the main role like bond would be the best way to keep it fresh but I have given up with Disney doing the right thing anymore

[@Grant-gj4yi]

Growing up, my dad got me into Stars Wars at a very young age, collecting and everything. My grandpa was the one who really got me into Indiana Jones. I remember vividly seeing KOTCS in theaters when I was only about 5 years old; after that, I saw (and rewatched thousands of times) raiders, temple, and crusade and was hooked. I was so surprised growing up to find that Indiana Jones didn't get that much love at all compared to Star Wars; other than Lego sets and a lego game and Hasbro action figures, that was about it for Indiana Jones. Later on, about 6 years ago I discovered The young Indiana Jones chronicles and thought the sean Patrick Flannery episodes were awesome; some were better than others. Seeing that show got me back into Indiana Jones and made me buy a penman raiders everyman. It's just crazy that we have waited almost 7 years for Indy 5, crazy that it was announced in 2015 and still hasn't been released.

[@tallerwarrior1256]

The reason why there’s been so many delays is because one Harrison Ford has gotten a bit old to play the character sad to say (he was injured recently while making the film) but specifically two, the director of the film James Mangold has been struggling really hard on this project. Hell he’s been acting out on Twitter too with at one point straight up calling out a fan and rudely talking down to him about film directing. But then again Disney Lucasfilm hiring people who go out and talk bad about the consumer isn’t anything new

[@ivane5110]

Thanks for mentioning Raiders/Indian Jones being left to flounder in a decade when so many franchises were given every conceivable medium to and chance to win the hearts of everyone from toddlers to adults. (I should have been eating my Lost Ark cereal, while playing my Temple video game, while babysitting a kid who was dressed as Indy and watching his Indiana Jones cartoon as he worked on his tie-in coloring book... as my dad read his Indiana Jones newspaper strip in the next room). Anything that good and that big had no business being ignored by the 80's Machine.

[@Godzillaborg21]

I've often wondered if Ford and Spielberg had been willing to make Indy 4 (with the crystal skulls) back when Lucas first pitched it it would have been a much better film and decidedly different.

[@CLOBBERINTIMES]

Great video, bro. It's one of the Great tragedies of cinema history that we didn't get more Indy films in the 90's. At least to me. Three was never enough...for me, anyway. 🖖

[@camcordernonsense5264]

i always have a growing checklist of Ford movies i personally didnt need and think every three years we could have had a Jones film. but im not the actor taking on the toll and needing to work, fulfill numbers of films in film contracts or just wanting to do something else to keep it fresh. but the i want side of me says, no. make my JONES! films!

[@Rick_Cleland]

They've ruined my entire childhood.

[@manuelk1853]

You really opened my eyes, especially with the cartoon thing. It's really a shame something like this never happened and also that we "only" got four movies, when it could've been more, wouldn't had it the delays and long times between each movies. Makes me really sad because I love this franchise....

[@saderin]

the distribution of the Kenner Indiana Jones figures was so bad, that I never knew there were IJ toys till the early 90's!

[@G.I.JOE_fan]

Agreed. I remember walking into "Kiddie City" with my Dad back in the 80s and they had the Raiders playsets, the truck, and no figures and my Dad gave them hell because he said how can you sell playsets with no figures to put in them.

[@purefoldnz3070]

18:10 Lucas did get to do his Star Wars cartoon eventually with the highly successful Clone Wars series.

[@StarryDrukhari]

What's surprising is that he didn't do one in the 80s just to keep the merchandise cash cow going strong, especially when you consider that's what the other big cartoons of the decade were made for (e.g. Transformers, G.I.Joe, etc.).

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@StarryDrukhari He did with Droids and Ewoks. Droids wasn't that bad really. Lucas was branching out at that time with Willow, Captain EO, Star Tours and setting up ILM and edit Droid in the mid to late 80's.

[@StarryDrukhari]

@@purefoldnz3070 I meant something more along the lines of a continuation of the story with the actual main characters. Imagine an animated version of the Thrawn trilogy.

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@StarryDrukhari The droids and Wicket were main characters (just the wrong ones lol). There was an excellent comic made of the Thrawn Trilogy. Anyway we'll see him in live action soon enough.

[@Truthseeker1515]

Raiders was fantastic, I was fortunate enough to see the movie in theatre despite the young age of 7. And then so many times on VHS rental. Doom was commercial, dark and disappointing. The Last Crusade was a great ending to the trilogy. There was no need of Crystal Skull and even less so of Indy 5. Ford is too old. Spielberg is spot on. And, in any case, you do not wait 19 years to shoot a sequel!

[@bethomaldo3707]

Cazadores del arca perdida es un peliculón las otras tres son basura películas "cómicas" de segunda

[@srs5933]

Hmm, not sure it was 'commercial', that aside, I agree.

[@davidyoung5114]

Have you heard yet what the 'creepy-crawly' things are going to be in Indy 5? We've seen snakes, bugs, rats, and soldier ants in the first four movies, so I'm thinking that maybe Indy had to go through a gigantic bee hive escaping his Nazi pursuers, and comes out covered with bees while the Nazis are stung to death. Or perhaps it is set during a cicada swarm! Any news?

[@Grindhead_Jim]

After watching this, in addition to agreeing, I have only two words: "Part Time."

[@jamespetix1345]

Great video, watched the whole thing. Here's where I think the disconnect is: Spielberg says, "I wanna direct A bond movie." He never said, "I wanna make the next bond FRANCHISE." For him he wanted to do this little nostalgia action picture and move on to something else. Then its a big hit which was fun to make with his friends so they do it again every few years. Why did it take so long in between? Because unlike the Bond franchise where everyone including the star was interchangeable, you need to get Ford, Spielberg and Lucas together for a year at the height of their careers. Plus you need a good enough script to make it worth it...its not that easy! It wasn't like now where if you're in an MCU movie you know you are playing that character for 10 years over 8 movies automatically. I'm not excited about Indy 5 but I'll for sure see it when it comes out. I'd love to see a Disney+ series about Indy's college years.

[@terrificon_CT]

As the a fellow TheRaider contributor and indyCast podcaster - I totally agree with you. We just filmed a TOD retrospective and said - we should have had 9 Indy movies by now. They should have done a new one every 3 years. And KOTCS differed because Spielberg was phoning it in. I watched them film in New Haven. He seemed to let the assistants film it

[@mikemarosy5466]

Great point at cramming all three films in one product. Still done these days. As much as I loved the Making of Indy book, would've loved to see them come out individually and in hardback.

[@845835]

My mom took me to see Raiders of the Lost Ark. I had no idea what it was because my age was definitely not the target audience and any commercials for it felt like the kind of thing my parents watched growing up and for me everything at that time was about Star Wars and scifi. I am grateful my mother took me because it was and still is an amazing film.

[@artanisknarf]

Outside of the great perspective a lot of IJ fans have, thank you for video after video that sticks to the point and doesn’t have a bunch of filler crap like a lot of what I try and watch on KZbin. You didn’t waste a second of the 28 minutes and 27 seconds.

[@markpatton7431]

I am also a bigger Indy fan than I am Star Wars (my wife and I had a Star Wars wedding after all). Indy and Spielberg are the main reasons I joined the Boy Scouts (all the way up to Eagle, even). I had to earn the money to get his hat from the Last Crusade VHS merchandise offerings. Still the best Christmas was the one where I got the leather jacket from my parents as a sophomore in high school (so outrageous a request I didn't even ask for it...even they knew how much Indy meant to me) and wore it every day. I even run as an-as-screen-accurate-as-I-can-get Indy costume when I ran the Disneyland half marathons. So I know what it means to see Indy being treated like the red-headed step child. That's what made him special, though. He wasn't as easy to be a fan of as other franchises with the amount of merch offerings they had. One had to really like him to be a fan.

[@baumer2504]

I totally agree with you about the Saturday morning cartoon options. Even with the strict parenting laws, imagine the freedom for violence against stormtroopers. They were basically considered robots to the masses and you could laser blast them all week long and parents wouldn't bat an eye while GI Joe had to have cobra Troopers parachute out of every explosion possible.

[@popculturejackh9201]

I agree with Micheal. I wish they’d follow the James Bond formula and do new Indy films with a new Indy. I wish we could have Indy for years to come.

[@purefoldnz3070]

Indy did continue with Young Indiana Jones Chronicles which was a very underrated show people have forgotten about.

[@AL-ws5yi]

I still remember! Watched every episode. I was disappointed they didn’t continue it.

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@AL-ws5yi Yeah don't know why he didn't like it. The plot line with WW1 and becoming a secret agent was fantastic.

[@jackfarthing3513]

Amazing vids love your channel

[@jonacheson]

One of my friends hosted an Indiana Jones movie marathon sometime in the 2000s, and Temple of Doom basically served as the intermission. We sampled the good parts, but it was also a good point to get up, get something to eat, and chat with people in the other room. Then we all crowded back in to watch Last Crusade.

[@srs5933]

Lol, I think you got it right..

[@therealthirst8099]

Honestly I don't want any Indy 5. Because it's obvious that it's going to have to be a "Passing the torch" story wherein some other person will dawn the hat and whip to continue the adventures. Ford is just too old for the role, but with how intrinsic his face is to the character, anyone else ever being Indiana Jones would just feel like a hollow imitation. Crystal Skull was really the last chance to give the character one last hurah, but sadly Lucas/Speilberg squandered it. If there is ever to be a serious continuation of Indy's adventures. I'd rather it be in animated form. There we can always have a young Harrison Ford as the face, all you'd need is somebody who could do a reasonable voice for him.

[@topgear22]

Love these long talks about Indiana Jones. Nailing it.

[@Plokman040]

Honestly never saw Crystal Skull (rather embarrassingly I only know surface detail of Last Crusade, my mom was picky on movies when I was a kid.) But I hate the people who say it is Shia labeouf was at fault, he didn't make the Transformers movies bad in my humble opinion, but I know a lot of Sam Witwiki haters. He was finding the niche he would be perfect for and if it had become a new hero a movie I think he could of pulled it off.

[@tonylogan6442]

Another thing people forget is that Lucas is also the luckiest man around. I would put him at 40% the reason Star Wars was great. People forget he had the best Special Effects team around. One of the best editors at the time to make sense of what he filmed. The best person to write the theme. Really great actors. He had others write and help direct, etc. There were a lot of reasons Star Wars was great, but it definitely wasn't ALL Lucas, not even close. The Prequels show this.

[@donmiles4581]

Yes!! 🙌I've always thought the same! I take NOTHING away from Lucas. But when you get down to the things that make most of his movies/projects so iconic and memorable, it was really......the people BEHIND him! Again, I take nothing away from him, but in the grand scheme of things, I essentially see Lucas as more of a figurehead. Not the near deity he is often held up as.

[@demonizer133]

I am 100% with you on the fact that Shia LeBouf was not the problem with Kingdom of Crap... I've said it for years, if anything, Shia LeBouf was the only good thing in that travesty! The writing was infantile and uninspired, the music was forgettable, the cinematography was bland, the special effects were COMPUTER GENERATED!! Harrison Ford, much as I love him, was phoning it in, Cate Blanchett's character was underdeveloped and not menacing, Karen Allen was rusty and therefore noticeably "acting", and the "Jonesy" character and "The Ox" were incredibly annoying. I wanted to hate him, but watching Shia LeBouf was the only time I was enjoying myself during that garbage. I literally don't even consider Kingdom of the Total Bull to be a canon Indiana Jones movie. It's just a dumb sci-fi movie that simply happens to have a character named Indiana Jones in it. Ugh. Now I've learned my lesson. Not looking forward to "Indy 5" tbh, but I will give it a watch at some point. Hopefully, with my low expectations, it has a greater chance of actually impressing me....but I won't hold my breath

[@videofox]

I prefer to think of the upcoming movie as "Indiana Jones 6," since Harrison Ford's actual fourth turn as Indy was in "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" where he was in the framing sequences telling the story instead of their old Indy. Even in that brief appearance, he still managed to save the day.

[@colv2059]

Hey Michal I have Been watching Retroblasting for 3 years now. Yesterday I just Got A new land land speeder from 1979 it was in pretty good condition.

[@colv2059]

Thank you for the like.

[@carolynenyart9376]

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[@ronnieenyart8667]

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[@GalactoDave]

Awesome take on the franchise. I laughed when I realized you and I share the same view of Labeouf’s performance in Crystal Skull. Keep rocking the videos.

[@Rex_G_007]

LaBeouf is a bratty punk. I was so relieved when Mark Wahlberg took over in the Transformer franchise

[@GalactoDave]

@@Rex_G_007 I don’t know, he puts in a very solid performance. I don’t care much about his personal life.

[@vintagetoykid9682]

I miss the days when amazing films like Raiders of the Lost Ark were new and we could experience all the fun and amazement for the very first time.

[@harrypartridgelive]

Nice to see Emperor's Tomb on Xbox make an appearance. I'd always wondered if you had played it.

[@spacemanspiralcatzero]

That whip looks pristine. I’m gonna need a worn used look on that sir 😉.

[@bluehero-96]

Dr. Jones can't just buy himself a new whip?

[@spacemanspiralcatzero]

@@bluehero-96 well sure if he wants to throw away years of whip history. “Whipstory” 😆

[@jonacheson]

@@bluehero-96 No, part of Indy's charm is the patina of age on everything. If Star Wars is a dirty, lived-in future, Indy is a dirty, lived-in past.

[@bluehero-96]

@@timothyward8695 Rings a bell, but I don't remember.

[@imahoare4742]

Hey, I'm from the future, Michael 100% called it.

[@Marshallstack23]

Great commentary man. Always enjoy hearing your thoughts.

[@Wooki3]

That is an interesting video. You make some good points here. I think Lucas should have made Young Indy show after ToD when franchise was still relevant and people were waiting for TLC. After that early 90's would be a great time for a Indy cartoon in the style of Batman TAS. That was a golden era of cartoons with Superman, Spider-Man, X-Men, Justice League and Batman Beyond. The Adventures of Indiana Jones with rearranged Williams score would be a perfect fit. Other things they could do was to recast Indy after every trilogy. It would help it stay concistent and alive.

[@Charliedont_surf]

I found Star Wars as a kid fantastic but not so much as an adult. However, I still like the three Indiana Jones movies. I refuse to recognize the 4th.

[@thatguy-qg9lk]

Strangely enough when I was little I liked temple of doom more than raiders but somehow as I got older the last crusade became my favorite

[@WyzGyzEntertainment]

I really do wish Indiana Jones were better attended. The concept art for the cartoon looked sooo good. I wish they had a lot more merch. I thoroughly enjoyed your video and it’s fully loaded with facts and excellent details and thoughtfulness.

[@GeekerThings]

Love the points you make in this video, and just to add that, that's one thing I appreciated about LEGO Indiana Jones sets and then the video game. They knocked it out of the park on both fronts and as a kid it was as legendary as LEGO Star Wars. I feel that's about as close as it got in terms of representation for kids my age before Kingdom of Crystal Skull. I know for my father personally, though he is a massive star wars fan, I will say Indiana Jones for him was also a cultural phenomena that had a huge impact on his life. As a teen in the 80s with a camera he filmed his own Indiana Jones skits and stories and he was all for the hat, whip, and leather jacket! He collected the original comics, posters, and he obsessed over the awesome Temple of Doom arcade game. (Don't forget the pinball either!)

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Posting from November 2022, it seems to have gotten worse and it may be due in part to KK doing her usual shtick of killing male characters to replace them with her self insertish tier female character. One red flag that stuck out was how trades kept going over the Nazi factor they were bringing up for this new installment but wasn't this something covered in the first movie? Isn't one of the most iconic moments of Indy him having to keep his composure while in disguise as Hitler approaches him at the book burning? Indy met Hitler face-to-face yet they're acting like MORE Nazis is groundbreaking. If I'm not mistaken, Indy 5 takes place in the 60s so there would still be a plethora of topics involving globe trotting that could have even taken on but Nazis because current year and most of the crop of writers in the industry can't think of anything else.

[@Necron-ez2cc]

Last Crusade should have been the end of it.

[@brentbanks8021]

Missed put on the action figure line as a 10 year old but 8 years later found Toht and the Cairo Swordsman on the pegs at a Children's Palace. And passed on them. Below them on the shelf were two German trucks. And passed on those as well. Drove 90 miles to home, mulled it over and decided my next trip there I'd grab a truck at least. Went back 2 weeks later and of course both were gone at that point. But miracle of miracles, some employee had found several Well of the Souls playsets and I grabbed 2, along with a Toht and Swordsman figure. And the blisters on the two figures were so yellowed and sun faded they slid right off the card back on the trip home. Good times. And I sooooooooooooo miss Children's Palace!

[@Freejack1971]

I liked the points you bring up about Capshaw and Connery. It never occurred to me that Spielberg looked at Indiana Jones as just humoring Lucas. I already lost a lot of respect for Spielberg after Crystal Skull and Ready Player One.

[@pawarl.o.s.881]

I'm happy it keeps getting delayed. The more it costs to make, the more money it'll lose when it bombs for destroying Indy's character.

[@megasystem8473]

That’s a cynical way to look at it

[@BlackAdder1970]

I didn't care for the Temple of Doom as much. I prefered the Kingdom of Crystal Skull. On the Note of James Bond. I never seen the recasting of the James Bond character as the same person, but the "007 James Bond" as a position in the agency. With different agents taking the name of "James Bond 007"

[@randomkillerx2157]

I agree with a lot of what you said. My main issues with how Indy has been treated is the lack of merchandise, marketability, and the long long long gaps between sequels. I mean they wasted Harrison’s prime youthful years by not pumping out adventure after adventure after adventure. It’s shocking really that we didn’t get any more Indy movies in the 90’s. I guess Lucas was just more focus on his Star Wars prequels to care to try and rotate two franchises at the same time again. I mean them trying to wait every time for all 3 of them Ford, Lucas, and Spielberg to be together to get it done was just stupid. All you need is Harrison Ford, the other two are replaceable, as we see is finally the case on the 5th one, but that’s kinda way too late when the guy is nearly 82! As we’ve seen in other franchises, writers and directors are the ones who can change but the face of the franchise stays the same. Kind of the same what’s happening now with the new Ghostbusters movie, all those years gone by without a new one with the main characters and now we get it when one has passed away and the remaining ones can barely walk.

[@johnr7279]

Hi Michael! Interesting ideas on if the Speilberg-Lucas team had continued to create Indy films after Temple vs. the very real hiatus we got. If so, would a Crystal Skull have been made? I don't think so at least not the same kind of Crystal Skull. Raiders is Raiders and there can only be one of those. I still get chills when I see it now. It's a very special film and it's okay if nothing else can be like it. Temple is good and I think you're spot-on when you state it was/is underrated. Last Crusade caught many of what made Raiders special. You're also spot on about how different Speilberg and Lucas are. One went on and consistently created films that ranged from very good to great and in multiple genres. Lucas is definitely an odd duck but seemed to team well with Spielberg. Maybe he brings out the best in him? The only place I think I don't agree is on Shia LaBeouf and disagreement is okay of course. That great teen actor from Holes (super film!) had Transformed (pun intended) into someone that had an overgrown sense of self that does not serve him well. Super video and made me think of what could have been. No matter what though, that momentum was lost. :-(

[@michaelb.4377]

Nice video! And, I agree; it’s obvious Star Wars was the priority. But I also think part of problem was that Lucas just didn’t have as many ideas for the character. I remember an interview - maybe with Spielberg - where he said Lucas originally negotiated a deal with Paramount for 5 films, even though he only had 3 ideas, at most. Even though he’s not involved now, I remember reading several stories after KOTCS was released, where Lucas claimed he’d already started drafting the script to Indy 5. Part 5 should have been released 10 years ago. This new delay makes me think they still don’t have a final script.

[@wakeuptotheonepartyoverlor8797]

CGI will soon be able to make entire films starring deceased actors - there will be endless indy films starring ford

[@newwavepop]

i loved Willow, and all my friends loved Willow, even my father loved Willow. it wasnt until years later when i was an adult that i found out Willow had bombed, at the time i had no idea the film didnt do well. i have always thought the real problem with Indiana Jones was Raiders started out with the Ark, and nothing could ever equal or much less surpass the Ark. and thats still the problem, there is nothing they can base any new film around that isnt underwhelming in comparison.

[@brushstroke3733]

25:58 Nice quote from the Bruce Hornsby song "The Way It Is."

[@momentumstocks3493]

Oh yeah...Fate of Atlantis..... I remember playing that game 1993/94.... Great story.

[@conormcgahan1717]

Great points, never really thought about Steven Spielbergs lack of Indy interest but there it is... still sooner take Indy chronicles over James Bond Jnr. any day.

[@artkingofwholefoods74]

The crystal skull was really bad. The end creeped me out for some reason. I miss Star Wars, and all the cool movies that came out when we were kids… I love your insight. Keep going forever!

[@shawne7228]

1995 was about the last year that they should have even tried to do an Indiana Jones movie with Harrison Ford.

[@GartheKnightReturns]

I personally hope that Indy 5 gets shelved permanently. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull wasn’t exactly what fans were expecting. Trying to capture what made the original three films isn’t going to happen. Hollywood was a different beast then. And if the rumors are true, (grains of salt are applied), the rumor that they’re going to kill off/remove Indy from the timeline since it has time travel in it, and potentially replace him with a Phoebe Waller Bridge as the new and improved Indy, then it should be shelved. Wouldn’t surprise me if James Mangold leaves the project.

[@bradshawsstudio8410]

Holy shakes that came out really quick I didn't know that was coming

[@OpenMawProductions]

17:33 Hell, just look at the Animated Star Trek. It's basically a 1 to 1 recreation of the show. It's really charming. I can only imagine what a proper early 80s Star Wars show might have looked like. Lucas could have started yet another house of creativity, his own 2D animation department.

[@GeekerThings]

Man this should be Michael's Hot Take video! Lot's of things I never expected him to say! Great video!

[@Puuch44]

You had me dying at 'George Lucas is weird.' Great vid 👌 Stop reading my mind, Michael!

[@j-lgroen1239]

I feel like that Indy magic was still somewhat there in the early nineties with “Fate of Atlantis” and I still remember feeling like there was so much potential for more at the time. Indiana Jones still felt relevant. I don’t even really count the series which even at my young age seemed….off. Indy without even just a little supernatural magic sprinkled in felt like a weird imposter of sorts. By the time “Indiana Jones and the infernal machine” and Indiana Jones and the Emperors Tomb” rolled around it already felt like Lucasarts were just throwing the old fans a bone wrapped in nostalgia. I loved both of those games especially Emperors Tomb, which really felt like a spiritual sequel, but once I finished enjoying those games I wasn’t really anticipating more. Every little crumb thrown our way just felt like it could be the last bit of Indy we’d get (including Kingdom of the Crystal Skull).

[@momentumstocks3493]

Yeah poor Sophie....I stlil think about her and what happened. So sad

[@TheCatWatches]

14:29 reminds of the clip Redlettermedia media played in the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull review where it shows a take of Harrison Ford saying “part-time” unenthusiastically. Absolutely agree Shia Leboeuf did the best he could with a weak script

[@mws755]

Temple of Doom was dark , unique and awesome. Last Crusade was a Raiders remake with Sean Connery added in

[@AdamH75]

Momentum is everything. I always try to imagine what Indy and Star Wars prequels or sequels could have been (and looked like) had we got one every few years -- still with traditional fx to the inevitable CGI transition in the early 90s and onwards. Prime example of waiting too long: Phantom Menace being nearly all CGI (at least it sure appeared so) I think was just too jar-jarring for the world, at least for me and I’m in the film/television production design industry. Oh, and last memorable anything Indy was Fate of Atlantis (I've held onto the same one you have displayed). Now you have me questioning weather I’m more an Indy fan had the momentum continued…

[@kibagami74]

At 24:52, I mean, good lord man... Harrison is fricking old. My Dad is 10 years younger and he's OLD and beat up. This is just insane seeing 80 y/o Ford dressed like Indy still. Sean Connery was 59 years old when he played Henry Jones and he had the good grace to play it once and only once. That to me is the elephant in the room. They should have recast a new Indy decades ago.

[@BanazirGalpsi1968]

Indy is nothing like bond. In my opinion, and yet last crusade is my fave and is the one that changed my mind about Sean Connery and made me like him. Then I saw name of the rose and that sealed it. But back to Indy I don't really see bond. Mainly because I see bond as the gadget person. I know there's more but that's the way my vision of it works. Having said that, if he is bond inspired why not cast Daniel Craig as Henry Jones Sr. And do a grailquest prequel. Or why not bring back young Indy? With a recast? Or even as a cartoon as you suggest?

[@BanazirGalpsi1968]

Also I want to see a long running Indy Jones comic book.

[@m.rivers9201]

Excellent commentary! Nice Work.

[@bashcrash9148]

This was a very well-done video, Michael.

[@toonytube2444]

I would like to see INDY recast so we can go back to the 1930s with more adventures with him. Not so hot on a 80 year old INDY in INDIANA JONES 5.

[@robotsrobots9687]

howard the duck is the real ignored lucas project

[@SpacedCobraIII]

Crystal Skull was a monkey's paw moment. Everyone thought they wanted a new Indy movie until they got one. Indy 5 is already cursed and should be cancelled.

[@DeAngryDan]

As a song of ice and fire fan I feel your numb pain,it comes to the stage where you just give up and accept defeat