Shashi Tharoor Vs Vikram Sampath: Debating Heritage, History & Hubris | India Today Conclave 2021

Speaking at the 19th edition of the India Today Conclave in the session titled 'Bulls in our Memory Shop: Debating heritage, history, hubris', MP Shashi Tharoor and historian Vikram Sampath discussed a range of issues from the history taught in Indian textbooks to the appropriation of controversial figures for political motives. Listen in:
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[@g2s2m19]

Let's appreciate Rajdeep's perseverance in exposing his own stupidity.

[@vijaypradeep8315]

he is an fool no 1 but he has few competitors

[@jyotirmoymohanta3266]

😂😂

[@jodylax2264]

😃😃😂😂

[@leolinus9411]

Rajdeep only 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

[@panshulthakur9648]

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@MAC-vi7fy]

The difference between Shashi Tharoor and Vikrams idea of of india is, Shashi Tharoors idea of india begins 75 years ago and Vikram’s idea begins 5000 years ago

[@gauravvishwakarma361]

And Rajdeep don't have any idea what's going on here

[@alvenawasim3572]

So the constitution of India is basically shit? 😂

[@shodhitgoyal6539]

@@alvenawasim3572 Obviously its a frikkin borrowed constituion, if netaji would have been alive he would have ordered to create a new constitution for india .

[@stayconnected7087]

And Rajdeep's idea of India took a pause somewhere in 2002!

[@gollum8821]

@@alvenawasim3572 absolutely.

[@ajiteshbisht5804]

Biggest irony of the entire video..... Rajdeep saying, "LET'S BE HONEST"

[@shivanshkumar4554]

😂 honestly

[@govardhann6413]

😂😂😂😂

[@tuhin2839]

😂😂😂

[@meenu26tomar]

😂

[@sunitapradhan7935]

😂

[@williamsamaddar6510]

Rajdeep Sardesai sounds like he has witnessed the Haldighati battle with his own ideological eyes 😀 Immense respect to Vikram Sampath 🙏

[@productive2213]

😂😂

[@swarnaushachandra5568]

😂 Rajdeep Sardesai needs to retire

[@skmorad4623]

Have you seen Haldighati. Have you read primary source

[@jAyAntswAmi]

Vikram Sampath: Facts Facts Facts. Shashi Tharoor: Opinion Opinion Opinion Rajdeep: Bark Bark Bark

[@kushalneo]

underrated comment

[@sathu108]

The Demon behind partition is British stooge & Agent Nehru, these fellow did partition & broke India & created Pakistan muslum rastra against the well being of country& People only to become the first prime Minister of India.... 👎 This is the history & truth which should be told in all our school & history books.......

[@ajaykc004]

@@sathu108 and the guy savarkar who wrote a mercy petition

[@oy1561]

@@ajaykc004 LOL everyone wrote mercy petitions ... as did Gandhi for saverkar since medal winner Gandhi was so trusted by the brits.

[@krishnaa151]

In one word you told the total story

[@devdattapandey2337]

Rajdeep becomes very uncomfortable whenever Vikram starts speaking.

[@itatube7594]

Pandey lol😂😂

[@shrivatsapande3027]

true dude!

[@venkatrao5435]

Yes Pandey ji. Rdeep WASTE n biased.

[@adichauhan3713]

That's the power of Truth!!

[@panjabipandit]

The truth hurts. No other explanation for his obvious discomfort at having to listen to someone else speak on subjects he (Sardesai) has obvious opposite views on. I'd argue Sardesai has minimal working knowledge (if you can even call it knowledge) on the subjects he blabs about so of course he'll feel inferior and uncomfortable hearing Vikram speak

[@rau5305]

Vikram totally killed it! He backed all his talks by logic! And every word was worth listening to! It was like Rajdeep and Shashi VS him , yet by the end he proves his point of truthifying HISTORY!

[@rahulsharma255]

It is actually a 2 on 1 debate. But still Vikram sir 🔥🔥

[@gopalramanathan7062]

This is more a set up to get at Dr. Vikram Sampath and a desperate attempt to stifle the rising Dharmic 🕉️ consciousness in contemporary Bharat.

[@-27353user]

sadly, all debates in India are same where anchors behave as participants

[@shivashankarprabhu]

Hats off to Vikram Sampath. He rocked this show with his deep research. Rajdeep as usual is a shame on humanity.

[@fancypantwarrior5655]

Yes,lol.

[@atharvadandwate2358]

True

[@arnabchaudhuri1212]

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[@harshvardhanthakur7254]

Exactly

[@shubhamjoshi5515]

As usual 🤣🤣🤣👌

[@nishkay633]

Vikram Sampat: Let's speak Logic! Shashi Tharoor: Let's speak English! Rajdeep Sardesai: Let's speak Bullshit!

[@prakashbhagwat7551]

Haha good one

[@AnushaCM]

🤣🤣

[@purushottamkumar8611]

Bravo 👏👏

[@soujanyakomatreddy1486]

😂

[@ashwinidesai4051]

Pretty much summed it up! 😆😆😆

[@SHIVANISHARMA76448]

How polite Vikram sampath ji is 😐😐❤️❤️ showing how much knowledge he has because immense knowledge make person polite and calm ❤️❤️

[@prakhargupta1405]

I loved when both of them just ignored rajdeep and started to talk facing each other 😂

[@AkashKumar-ov7ci]

😂

[@umeshkokane3555]

That jerk doesn’t deserve anyone’s attention.. I always remember Ambani’s words, wonder if even his wife takes him seriously..

[@kushal4956]

yeah this was like sampath n shashi disagreeing on some points n then both of them debating against rajdeep

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

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[@HK-fb8bo]

Can you mention even one point in your video where they ignored him? IT cell is doing quite good job here in KZbin...LOL

[@cfdphy]

"Let's truthify the history" - Vikram Sampath, 2021 The need of this country.

[@rajnish8918]

Damn right

[@kaiwalyaghotkar832]

There are many truths as he said in the end , with Blind men and Elephant story .

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

@@kaiwalyaghotkar832 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

[@Abuzar_khan441]

ok andhbhakt

[@yottabyte2065]

@@Abuzar_khan441 Ohh madrasha chap also comment here

[@phaninadella2704]

How many of you observed, Unlike Shashi, Vikram was describing India as 'her' 🙏

[@user-qp4ue4zs5g]

Because India is our Motherland and we are proud of Bhartiya 🇮🇳

[@shrutimishra252]

Vikram sir is an absolute gem. His calm and composed manner while countering their 'political attacks' is commendable.Thank you so much sir for sharing this knowledge and being daring enough to put forward the harsh truth.

[@aliaseldhose]

The only person who tried to bring politics into the discussion was Rajdeep, you should be ashamed of yourself for moderating it this way. Though Dr. Sampath didn't get much time on, he have conveyed some strong messages, thanks for that.

[@sanathanadharmama]

Is he a traitor

[@androidamey8031]

Rajdeep is a traitor and he is living in India a secular nation that is why he is safe… imagine he being citizen in China or Pakistan and speaking against their history by now he would be in hell already 😅😂 traitor of the worst kind. Even hardcore traitors are killed on spot but india is just tolerating him.

[@tennysonsaikia2738]

Very true

[@rjhaveri8bh]

Dr Shashi Tharroor Honest was questionable, it appeared he was trying to protect Nehru family and their wrong doings. Shahshi Tharoor may have protected Nehru family but he has lost voters today. Atleast I will never vote for a liar who conceals facts. Rajdeep Sardesai is a clown and he comes out clearly a slave of Nehru family which is more and more evident. If Modi has got so much support today it is only because of liar media which hunting Modi and due to total distrust in congress party. Nehru and his family has been authoritarian and followed cancel culture from the very beginning even before independence. If he was not appointed by British he would have never become Prime Minister. Now we know where Rahul Gandhi gets this brains from. Vikram Sampath in my view was fabulous he came out with his facts in an articulate manner despite the other two intimating him. Very impressive.

[@porchelviramr4404]

Well said.

[@aben3278]

J Sai Deepak and Vikram Sampath are Gems of India.

[@pritesh0117]

Also, Rajiv Malhotraji! :)

[@anishmallick3195]

❤❤

[@Dog_Car_2468]

Also, Tejasvi Surya!

[@Optimistic_Jaadu]

Totally agree with you. 👍🏻

[@momobhai3792]

@@Dog_Car_2468 lol

[@guynair2654]

As an NRI, and an American whose ancestors come from SW India (Malabar), I feel so good watching these thinkers/philosophers/historians openly discuss their differences, and express their opinions publicly. India is an open society despite all the bad things attributed to a great land. So those who consider these as debates with winners and losers, don't forget there are ideological nations surrounding India where such discussions are held in contempt and participants shot or maimed over their thoughts. Keep it up. It takes me a while to get to these YT videos, but they are so educating.

[@shivamlodha8605]

Who do you think out of these 3 nailed the conversation?

[@navibhat2126]

Vikram ji - our country awaited so much to hve some 1 like u. The perfect narration of our past events icons and aberrations!!! Millions of thanks from youths of our time

[@prreddy5375]

Sai Deepak is little aggressive and Sampath is assertive I appreciate both of them

[@gopalramanathan7062]

True except that J Sai Deepak should be more aggressive and Sampath a lot more assertive. 😄

[@malasharma4987]

Abbbbsolutely. Shashi Tharoors for all his tirades against the British is not only British in accent but is totally Britis 8:53 h and also leftist in thought word and deed. A pretentious pompous conceit who deserves to be totally ignored if not jeered and hooted at instead of being celebrated and honoured.

[@sid7221]

Fabulously said haha​@@gopalramanathan7062

[@jayspice4987]

J Sai Deepak while explaining many things correctly, there is a sense of hatred and ignorance in his thoughts that sampath doesn't have. Sampath is the combatant for the liberal while Sai Deepak is the combatant for the Muslims.

[@Iamdead666]

@@jayspice4987 Well you clearly learn the History , without any bias the reaction then doesn't seem so illogical . BR Ambedkar , Bhagat singh and many more Big people of our India has same result also that Muslims are never of their motherland first , they are of their religion

[@SrivikasVishnubhotla]

Dr Vikram Sampath is criminally underrated. He should be given a bigger stage. A lot more people should listen to him!

[@tarunsharma5780]

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[@rajsingh2363]

Yes! He should not waste his precious time to appear in a debate of Rajdeep Sardesai

[@rajsingh2363]

R C Majumdar’s books which were not available earlier are now available stating real history

[@gopalramanathan7062]

I am confident that in the days to come Dr Vikram SAMPATH would be listened to and acknowledged especially by the new generation of leaders of contemporary Bharat 🇮🇳

[@gopalramanathan7062]

And that’ll happen only when such inflated egos like Tharoor are put in the dustbins of colonialism 🛑

[@harshakulkarni7427]

Only for Vikram Sampat Sir👏👏

[@Helicopter007]

Vikram Sampath mentioned Tripuris..We are from the state of Tripura which was ruled by The Twipra Kingdom from time immemorial till India was independent We remained independent from time immemorial till now even mughals couldn’t conquer us.. we are one of the greatest independent kingdom of bharat.. we are here from Mahabharata time till now in NewBharata.

[@satishghorpade6481]

But no history book teach we that's the question..

[@tejasree8933]

Such an amazing piece of history hidden from us... Truly unfair 😢

[@Maharaje114]

Great history... But not in books

[@ABHISHEKSHARMA-ti5fl]

I wish your glorious history will be mentioned in the every book 🏆

[@shivamtripathi144]

Yes, for sure we want to read the history of North East part of India as well.

[@rajeevsingh9210]

I feel blessed that I am to able see and listen to people like Dr. Vikram sampath.. I feel so bad for myself that i don't know 0.1% of actually what happened.. so much to learn and listen to.. Again blessed to hear the other side of the stories bcoz i remember I amd my friends diacussing that our history does not feel like our history.. obviously we weren't that mature to contemplate at that time but certainly few years ago we used to have this talk.. But now i know why it didn't feel like our..And today's school going generation is actually blessed to have this content where they can parellely see and know the other side of the stories and even call out to teachers.. we definitely should have more and more this kind of discussions but maybe with an intellectual journalist who doesn't try to politicize it and also other panelist as historian... Favts vs Facts

[@ankurdubey367]

On one hand Dr.Throor has a viewpoint that the British should pay reparations to India and on the other hand he downplays the excesses and barbarism of invaders like ghazni, ghori, tughlaks, mughals, abdalis etc. You can't have different yardsticks for different invaders. It shows politics of convenience.

[@bhavyap590]

British were enemies of Mughals and Tharoor always is on Islamic side

[@sanilyadav1450]

@@bhavyap590 Britishers faught against Marathas. So which side he is coming from?

[@bhavyap590]

@@sanilyadav1450 Tharoor glorifies Mughal invaders so he is never on Marathas side. His side is his growing political vote bank

[@Dog_Car_2468]

Has Tharoor converted to Islam?

[@benjaminsamuel5394]

Geez like no Hindu kingdoms never invaded any territories?? Bro India was feudal back then, you had to expand to keep your kingdom fck that what even Ashoka had to do.

[@therealmalhar_]

“We might be politically independent but i think our minds are far from de-colonized” Vikram Sampath hit a bull's eye!

[@bluej6127]

If a certain group or sect of people stick with their I securities and sense of being colonized even in 21st century , its their problem. How come the rest of us Indians don't feel this and just some of you ( or a hindu majority ) feels so ? Get out of it guys

[@therealmalhar_]

@@bluej6127 So should I take permission from you to appreciate a great author/historian ? You made it religious also. Do something better dude

[@draxZz__]

@@bluej6127 When your Supreme Court says that the medium of conversation is English, it reflects the colonial hangover of our country, even though "Satyamev Jayate" is not.

[@bluej6127]

@@draxZz__ no, it only reflects that Indians are able to communicate in an international language. If you hadn't the opportunity to learn English, how would you communicate with me here ? If I hadn't the opportunity to learn English how would I deal with scores of people from all over the world on a daily basis which is part of my job ? I couldn't dream of such a job if I knew no English. I consider my language skill as that of power, that of independence, that of education ...everything positive. If you think English is not freeing you from bandage, I guess we need to talk about mental health. Not colonialism.

[@draxZz__]

@@bluej6127 Either you aren't from India or you have no idea about the reality of India. It is a privilege to know English in this country to the extent that people equates intellect with English (which also reflects the hangover). Forget jobs and interacting with Western world, majority of people in India can't even afford basic primary education, also the reason why Govt of India had to come up with Sarva Siksha Abhiyaan and free mid day meal for students. To make it mandatory for an advocate to communicate and articulate his arguments in English which he wasn't comfortable in shows the colonial mindset of our system which isn't the case in European countries. Bdw the rule that states it is mandatory to communicate in English was setup by the English themselves to narrow down the flow of Indian barristers in British India. Stop assuming that every Indian has the same resources and access as you have. What does mental health has to do with this debate? I have nothing against speaking in English, obviously it is a global language and everyone should learn it if they can afford. I gave you one example of the colonial lens that we are subjected to look through.

[@vasudhanadgonde7419]

I watched this episode today and kudos to Dr Vikram sampat.He totally nailed it.

[@balakrishnanss6550]

Truthifying.... Good word....truly depicting the history of 5000+ years not just from 7th CE. We have wasted 75 years & it is high time we do the course correction.

[@brijendradubey7040]

The only time debate becomes unbearable is when Rajdeep speaks , rest knowledge is top notch.

[@dharminderpuri8451]

Exactly 😂🤣😂

[@ayushsolapurkar4716]

This is not a debate, it's a discussion cause both intellectuals are agreeing on eachother's point which usually doesn't happen in debates

[@jayanthrajaram3526]

yeah i like both tharoor and Vikram but can't stand rajdeep 😂😂😂

[@prashanthkamath2223]

Very true I can’t withstand that bastard

[@manash493]

Naah, I agree with rajdeep, everytime he was trying to just finalize, summarize what each side told and put the question to next side. (My analysis, free to reply to my comments)

[@marcusaureliusanonymous]

It was 2 against 1 and still Vikram ji come out at the Top. So, one can imagine how much knowledge Vikram JI possesses on History of India!

[@disprofundis3477]

Because he is beyond politics.

[@stupengamer]

yeah, I also noticed, the host siding with Tharoor and interrupted him many times, speaking on Tharoor's behalf.

[@sashilemla6229]

Vikram is a historian so obviously he will be

[@princeofall433]

Vikram ka kutta😂😂

[@gopalramanathan7062]

This is just an enactment of the infamous ‘kangaroo court’ put up by the Nehruvian rag ‘India Today’ where under the guise of holding a ‘debate’ the host an unashamed ‘minoritarian’ advocate gobbles up all the airtime! What a farce❗️

[@ImranAli-te4hg]

COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SIR VIKRAM SAMPATH ...THESE WOUNDS HAVE NEVER HEALED SPECFICALLY THE GREAT SCAR OF PARTITION OF OUR MOTHERLAND CANT BE SIMPLY FORGOTTEN . DR. THAROOR SEEMS TO BE DEFENSIVE IN TERMS OF OUR HISTORY AND BIASIS , CRAVING FOR COMPOSITE CULTURE ON THE EXPENSE OF ONE COMMUNITY ONLY .

[@SaikatSadhukha]

The debate was actually Shashi Tharoor Rajdip S. vrs Vikram Sampath sir

[@TINGTONGPOWER]

Sashi looks like the moderator Rajdeep, speaking for the left.

[@lisaalfred8504]

Hello 🤩👋

[@lisaalfred8504]

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[@Batman-qf8rb]

Left🤡

[@lisaalfred8504]

@@Batman-qf8rb hello

[@lisaalfred8504]

I can make you rich

[@HarshwardhanShahani]

As a moderator Rajdeep's personal likes and dislikes are out in the open. From his insinuating tone and false sense of righteousness, it is crystal clear which way he swings.

[@lalitharavindran]

It’s also evident as a news person.

[@OtisAdonisChad]

No moderator is unbiased. Most of them. Especially so in India today.

[@Liberty55555]

so i want to be part of your gang uncle. where you are paid to target certain people. Can you let me know your salary or what you earn per comment ? i spend a lot of time on net so i can earn and further your and your gang's cause.

[@achyutarun7999]

@@OtisAdonisChad timesnow amchors only unbiased

[@kanishksingh5463]

perfectly decoded rajdeep mindset

[@minakshide854]

Hats off to Vikram Sampath🙏🙏🙏

[@prasadjrao]

This is exactly the kind of debate that we should have more of. Assertive, respectful and progressive.

[@thebatman0777]

"If you are going to deny history Future will deny you." - Self-Obsessed Vikram sampath 👍👍👍

[@Liberty55555]

how ? lol . just a typical ajay devgan dialogue ?

[@Winston44567]

Future accepted Gandhi all over the world, not Savarkar.

[@kamal9654]

@@Winston44567 bcs in history we have wrote about gandhi not about savarakar.

[@aninditabanerjee7486]

@@Liberty55555 o 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@thebatman0777]

@@Liberty55555 whatever but this Quote is true if you deny the Human History From African caves to Moon,Mars and Evolution of Humankind A Dark Future is ready for You

[@beingrational1302]

You can only imagine the impact of Vikram Sampath from the fact that likes of Shashi Tharoor have started saying Savarkar as a complex figure rather than outright demonisation of Savarkar as a Hindu Supremacist and a bigoted individual. 😀

[@SuryaPrakash-ek2nr]

Yes

[@sourabhdwivedi219]

This is shashi throor a historian vs shashi throor a politician.

[@hum_sanatani.01]

Who killed Sunanda Phuskar

[@itsyourboyb.s.rathore7950]

Lad, get your English a lvl up.

[@adityarao3577]

@@itsyourboyb.s.rathore7950 sir, we dont serve englishmen anymore!

[@revatiy]

History relates to Karma and wounds are passed on from generation to generation, so learning the past, making everyone heard, and then making peace with it is required.

[@revathiramachandran9663]

What an eloquent speaker, Dr.Sampath! You can see in his dialogues that he truly has no political motivations and honestly wants Indians to acknowledge their history, move on and build a better future. Dr.Tharoor, you have finally met your match :) let's not forget that the reason why history is getting politicised today is because as Dr.Sampath says, we haven't had closure. Even German students learn in detail about the atrocities of Hitler and the holocaust, it only helps them to come at peace with their past and not hold it against anyone. And if you support denying the truth to Indians, you are only risking the future of this country further, from more grave polarisation or communalism. And if the history of my country has to rely on such shaky bandaids, then you're also underestimating the constitutional secularism. INDIA has always been a pluralistic country, we have always accepted people of other faith and differences. So trust your country with its true history!

[@Nadd108]

Vikram Sampath is very right when he says "For the kids in school the story of her country is shown as a third person as of it belongs to some other nation" I always thought about it whenever I reflected back on the history I studied in school (NCERT) It clearly created my thought process that "British were good for India & Mughals were even better" simply based on the information in the textbooks glorifying British (indirectly) and Mughals Directly as well as most of the teachers doing the same. Later on in life I found out about the reality and about the barrage of misinformation it was I was shocked & felt sad for the younger ones still studying the same misinformation in Schools. So proud of Vikram Sampath for shedding some light of truth about our "Pyara Bharat" & giving a befitting reply to the "Brown Angrez" monopoly in the country and creating a bright hope for future generations.

[@renganayakikumarappan5129]

Yes as Vikram said make peace with the past. Not bury it under the mat.

[@deepika2644]

Exactly... The glorification and demonization of certain characters and the language used in the NCERT books really caught my attention... I would think about why was this so... But I am 19 now, I have Twitter and I now know why.... J Sai Deepak and Rajiv Malhotra first opened my eyes✨🙏🏻 VERY GRATEFUL!

[@karnsiva6894]

@@ayushnair3587 they are more patriotic than the so called secular Hindus in our country

[@kumarraj197]

Thank god it's not a monopoly anymore. But have to stay awake and united, if we want it to stay that way

[@vihankrishna9644]

i mean the icse text book says things just as they were

[@BharathChavachavz3]

If you life gives you a choice. Be classy as Vikram Sampath. Don't be shameless as Rajdeep 😂

[@acediyartist9252]

Rajdeep desai is a true Muslim and his teachers and parents too who teach him false history. Rajdeep Desai is a pappu Chatu and today he is doing the same chatupana of Congress 🤑🤑

[@prasvasu4217]

Or duplicit as the politician

[@addictrogue516]

Raju jesa toh bilkul nhi banna !

[@KunalGupta88888]

@@acediyartist9252 chatupana of congress😂😂

[@monotonous1763]

You folks are idiots.. he is asking questions .. that’s his job..

[@shashwatdwivedi227]

Nice to hear the unbeatable arguments of two brilliant minds.❤

[@siddharthdwivedi467]

शानदार चर्चा🔥🔥🔥...इंडिया टुडे कॉन्क्लेव के आयोजकों को धन्यवाद l जिस तरह से दोनों (बुद्धिजीवियों) ने जवाब देने से पहले (बिना भटके) धैर्य के साथ एक-दूसरे की बात सुनी, वह बहुत सकारात्मक था और इतिहास को वर्णित करने के बारे में विक्रम जी का दृष्टिकोण थरूर जी की तुलना में काफी अधिक ठोस एवं संतोषजनक है।

[@nsbumb]

Dr Vikram Sampath has emerged as a valuable asset to Indian culture.

[@MyKarur]

Impressed with Sampath. He is articulate,polite and well researched

[@TheSujitKDas]

Vikramji is articulate and brilliant.

[@akankshamishra7785]

Take a bow Vikram Sampath ji. You are giving voice to what we feel all the time as Bharatiya who can't even talk about their own historical atrocities openly just because it's not socially and politically correct and will upset few people. It's unfortunate.

[@ExistentialDodo]

11:13 can someone please tell me the name of this book

[@deepankarchandrashekhar1038]

In the presence of mature, sophisticated and highly knowledgeable people like Dr. Sampth and Dr. Tharoor, Rajdeep's buffoonery gets especially irritating.

[@panditji7451]

COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

[@srivinit]

Well said

[@NS-vq5cc]

Yes

[@theniravpanchal]

Tharoor is Also Rajdeep with some more choice of words. Both are colonial + G--haad wh!tew_sher garbage.

[@devish5]

He is simply the arnab's copy..😑

[@hareramv]

Now we are getting true historians. Thank you and all the best Dr. Sampath.

[@tarunsharma5780]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4CVhpl5l9edr5o

[@gopalramanathan7062]

True. Now I feel compelled to read Dr Vikram Sampath’s two volume book🙏🏼

[@cheharkrupa5748]

It was not Shashi Tharoor vs Vikram Sampath, it was Vikram Sampath vs Rajdeep Sardesai. Still Vikram defeated both of them 😅

[@user-bg5ve8ok8b]

Exactly

[@MrEStreaming]

This is brilliant for the conversation on and study of ‘Identity’! All of humanity can learn much from this to better improve one’s own perspective and enhance one’s own consciousness as to how important our perceptions are not only to ourselves, but also to all. There is great wisdom in Bharata that holds many treasures as to what is this ’me’ I perceive my ‘self’ to be, and to what am I to identify with. As Bharati reclaim this, Bharat will re-evolve, and Bharata will once again shed much needed light for all. Well done. Namaskaram

[@saugotaghosh7565]

Vikram is truly an intellectual. Very well researched and articulated agruguments.

[@howto86421]

@@guruv.k488 ? what's wrong

[@sujoybiswas7147]

because , RW makes nowadays more research to speak ,and left just keep using same logic from 47s. That's why RW speakers looks more intellect

[@Liberty55555]

all that he has to say is unverified . no proof. well funded. and hence today. lol.

[@yogeshgoel6268]

He should be our education minister and should rewrite history books include ayurveda history, spread of Hinduism to Cambodia, Chandragupta Maurya, rise of Bharat, southern kingdoms and history of temples. And should include glorious Hindu kings from north to south and east to west who actually protected India from foreign invaders with blood. India had history before Mughals. Also include truth of Mughals who converted people of India with taxes and killings. Include Sikh gurus sacrifices.

[@Liberty55555]

@@yogeshgoel6268 but if so much is included in book you will not be able to pass exam. lol i am so sure based on your comment i can bet on it. lol.

[@jatinsoni1979]

Absolutely killed it VikramJi. Your book on Savarkar was a eye-opener!

[@brewedmeditation2886]

An placed prior to vowel

[@savarkarshindutva1205]

Totally

[@deepika2644]

YUPPP ✨

[@sapnabhardwaj2856]

Plz tell me the name ??

[@nagarjuna4667]

​@@sapnabhardwaj2856 savrakar echoes party 1 and part 2 read it by Vikram samptah

[@JrJ2016]

40:40 Sampath nailed the argument

[@jellalfernandes1309]

India's true history must be told. Wholeheartedly agree with Dr. Vikram Sampath. Mr. Tharoor seems to believe ignoring history will heal wounds of the past, but he fails to understand that it is this ignorance that is keeping those wounds fresh and not letting it heal. Echos of the past always affect the future, and if the young population of India doesn't understand their true history then it is doomed to be repeated on them.

[@smitaadani5071]

2:1 and yet how gracefully he has conducted himself! Kudos Vikram Sampath 👏🏻

[@Agrahari195]

🙏

[@kartiksinghcharan]

Very true

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

Samita mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

[@aryamahima3]

Even I was thinking the same.

[@PradeepKumar-yx8sr]

Rajdeep isn't capable of holding these kind of debates.This isn't political mumbo jumbo where you can get away with doing dalali. History thrives on facts which is not Raju's forte.

[@dipi27]

Yeah that's what I thought throughout the session. What is this joker doing here, trying to sound intelligent.

[@Nmax]

Yes true

[@ThisisAnant93]

Yeah Arnab should've been there instead!!! who can forget his so called facts about being attacked near CM's house while covering Gujarat riots!!

[@anantharams9154]

Absolutely the likes of Rajdeep are not qualified to moderate such debates! In fact it would been a much better debate if Rajdeep was not there!

[@SamvedIyer]

@@ThisisAnant93 Well, Arnab is not hosting here, so your comment is of no relevance.

[@MrMehta57]

"Where were these virtues 25 years ago??" 🤜🤜

[@colourless2d]

This is what's called a constructive and a futuristic debate unlike the one in other news channels where the debate remains inconclusive

[@devsen05]

Never saw Tharoor running away from a discussion with tail down. l think first time he met someone who can speak more fluently and with context.

[@ss6758]

Watch J deepak too..

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊. KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5TEqX1smsagrA QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON

[@balapradeep8371]

You much watch J Saideepak's debate with him.😂😂

[@avengers464]

Its mean you have missed Sai vs tharor.

[@raghuka4916]

See his discussion with Sai Deepak No use trying to justify government previous at all costs As for Raideep less said of him the better

[@anonymous-yp5ql]

Rajdeep is that Dhol who is smashed by everyone 😂

[@SubhamKumar-fr7gw]

Rajdeep - the biggest blot on journalism

[@Hamasvard_University]

😂😂😂

[@deep20233]

Vikram sir, got goosebumps while hearing to your speech. Need to read your book and that is the priority for me now

[@amitnatarajan2897]

Dr. Vikram Sampath, thank you for enlightening us...keep enlightening...

[@ankurgiri9310]

there should be an option through which we can skip only rajdeep’s part

[@achalgupta5811]

Best comment 👍👍👍

[@ashutoshanand1573]

😂

[@BzBug]

🤣

[@essm4179]

Thats what I did, I kept skipping forward whenever he spoke.

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊. KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5TEqX1smsagrA QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.

[@divyanshcnb]

Dr. Sampath needs to be heard more, this man knows what He us talking. Him and K.K. Mohammad sir both should do series of sessions on in Indian History historically and archeologically as well

[@AdityaAnandCSE--]

Hey sir u can visit jaipur dialogues on KZbin once for correct history.

[@lisaalfred8504]

Hello handsome

[@lisaalfred8504]

@@AdityaAnandCSE-- Hello 🤩

[@AdityaAnandCSE--]

@@lisaalfred8504 Hello what's up

[@lisaalfred8504]

@@AdityaAnandCSE-- Am very good And you

[@MM-pm7kg]

One should never forget your past. I can make peace with it and try everything to avoid any misdeeds in future.

[@pavandhanvantri8044]

When is the next in 2023 Conclave

[@dipi27]

Rajdeep's bias is so out in the open that he can't even act unbiased despite best efforts.

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

[@deeminor6565]

As Vikram says, current govt needs to correct history asap. The opposition will shout from the rooftops.

[@animeshrana358]

😂 Opposition be like :- prepare for 2029 nothing will get in 2024

[@vadirajt]

If Indian liberals and political party with agenda glorifying butcher like Tippu for their own benefit we should shy away calling them Desh drohi too...One who celebrate your country's destroyer can't be called a leader anyway.

[@vadirajt]

should not*

[@glennex0077]

@@vadirajt Thats the irony of this country. Vikram said that, "U have bakhtiyarpur town near ruins of Nalanda" Aint that amazing ? We R a "brainwashed Republic"

[@disliketheclickbaits8858]

@@glennex0077 N we praise "bharamans" even when it's a brahamab who asked Bakhtiyar to burn down the nalanda

[@revasingh9426]

Good discussion! Mr.Vikram.Sampath is simply brilliant 👌🏻

[@pruthvimeka3259]

Vikram’s way of healing these “wounds” is by using proper methods to heal. Tharoors way is to leave them Be and they might heal. Problem with tharoors method is they would become infected too. So acknowledge the truth of our history instead to distorting it to make you feel good and accept the real history, heal and move on.

[@aadimishra9669]

Rajdeep- i will turn this healthy debate into a political fight Vikram- hold my facts 😂

[@sheetalkharka3287]

I wasn't sure how someone can/ would be so articulate in front of Dr. Tharoor, listening to this entire discussion was such an eye-opener as a history lover. The entire credit goes to Vikram Sampat for his excellent presentation, the points put forth, and his entire poise was so attractive to not leave this conversation. However, we could have had Rahul Kanwal for this!

[@amolparashar7872]

well in that case you ought to see your false idol and arguably the most dishonest intellectual of our time getting demolished by J Sai Deepak in a book launch event and discussion. You can find the discussion on Tharoor's youtube channel.

[@sunnymitra6372]

Shashi Tharoor is a White Indian trying to be British

[@truetool]

You should watch Shashi Tharoor's discussion with J Sai Deepak who completely demolished his arguments with his facts.

[@rjhaveri8bh]

Dr Shashi Tharroor Honesty was questionable, it appeared he was trying to protect Nehru family and their wrong doings. Shahshi Tharoor may have protected Nehru family but he has lost voters today. Atleast I will never vote for a liar who conceals facts. Rajdeep Sardesai is a clown and he comes out clearly a slave of Nehru family which is more and more evident. If Modi has got so much support today it is only because of liar media which hunting Modi and due to total distrust in congress party. Nehru and his family has been authoritarian and followed cancel culture from the very beginning even before independence. If he was not appointed by British he would have never become Prime Minister. Now we know where Rahul Gandhi gets this brains from. Vikram Sampath in my view was fabulous he came out with his facts in an articulate manner despite the other two intimating him. Very impressive.

[@dikshant6559]

I , too, was about to mention j sai deepak and m happy seeing his popularity in comment section

[@sarathmeduri09]

Vikram Sampath - just exactly the one what India needs to know about the truthful history!

[@user-md5db3dv3t]

Amazing knowledge and view points with facts & evidences by Vikram. Hats off

[@navya5589]

Rajdeep was trying hard to entice Vikram by throwing politics and extremist examples towards him. Shows how desperate they have become to keep their false narrative intact. Love the helplessness. :)

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

[@navya5589]

@@shaitanknowsbest3822 Hi there. My opinion on this issue is that every religion or societal custom does need reforms from time to time. Most practices in religions are no cause for concern, but some really must be changed. The only issue is, that some religions are not open to these reforms and they are complacent in their ways. There are certain misogynistic verses in a few holy books that should be done away with, but under the fear of committing blasphemy, these verses haven't been removed yet. So unless the society makes a conscious effort to reform themselves, some sexist issues will remain. :D Hope this helps.

[@asnm4380]

I enjoyed your comment very much!

[@navya5589]

@@asnm4380 Thank you!

[@navya5589]

@Khyalo Ki Duniya Umm Im not seeing your point here?

[@aadi2625]

Who wants India to be a Hindu Rashtra? Edit: Thanks for showing support. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@shashisourabh7030]

spot on😂

[@smart2767]

Rajdeep time is over

[@panditji7451]

GOOD JOURNALIST EXPOSES EVRYTHING

[@panditji7451]

EVEN IF IT HIS OWN IDIOCY, BUT THEN WHAT ELSE ONE EXPECTS FROM LIKES OF RAJDEEP

[@riposte1960]

not stupidity , his desperation , his journalism is totally compromised due to his and his wife's corruption , he's joined at the hip to the gandhi family

[@phaninadella2704]

Shashi would never debate Sai Deepak and Vikram Sampath again 😂

[@KevinBrady-fy3cx]

Wow! Putting these two fellows together was inspired. Regardless of your opinions on the history itself, these gentlemen are giants and watching them debate is immensely gratifying.

[@drrajkragarwal3534]

Shashi's only prerequisite for attending this event was JSD's confirmed absence.

[@ashwinpandey5001]

Who's JSD?

[@neetuhareet9431]

@@ashwinpandey5001 J S Deepak

[@JaihindDosto]

😂😂😂true

[@lucifermorningstar7019]

😂😂😂

[@oreki8707]

Lol

[@karsan6018]

Vikram sampat is one of the most under rated personality of recent times. He should be given the responsibility to rewrite history. Just can't stop listening when he speaks . It's not just articulation but knowledge and sharpness.

[@ashutoshpandey1049]

Vikram you are just awesome 😎 we need both shashi and vikram because we need such debates but not rajdeep in between

[@marybhim-rao4696]

Great conversation. We must be aware of the past, in order to appreciate the present and move forward into the future.

[@ugachmanus3780]

My god Vikram Sampath is fountain of knowledge. It’s one thing to argue effectively, succinctly and cohesively but just the fact that he comes from such a place of deep research and knowledge.

[@tarunsharma5780]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4CVhpl5l9edr5o

[@iitn8437]

underground leaders shouln't be kept under carpet

[@anandshankar1508]

Congress historian only want to remember godhra ... mujaffarnagar....aur ayodhya....they don't want to remember partition or moplah or Kashmir....or Mughals...

[@kuldeepgaurav1419]

How Tharoor in each discussion takes out ex. of some Ms being lynched in the name of JSR & consistently fails to mention KP in 90's or many incidents of Ms rioting. & if reminded he would merely say - oh! All such incidents are condemned but fails to do so himself every single time.

[@momobhai3792]

Well one must not justify riots...Be it godhra or moplah...This whataboutism will never end.

[@Adityatalks..W]

@@momobhai3792 how can you even put godhra and Moplah in the same line... The scale of both these riots are extremely different. You're downplaying what happened in Moplah.

[@momobhai3792]

@@Adityatalks..W Riots are riots. People die, economies shut, politicians win.

[@Kuldeepsingh-vm7lo]

@@momobhai3792 I agree with you that riots are riots but as u mentioned if u see politics, economic and social impact there is sharp difference while Moplah during NCM period was in different context with different ruling dispensation who wanted divide and rule and there are some fact which still is not in public domain now we are discussing then we are getting information about I had seen if u 1st or 2nd gen after partition they didn't aware about much about these while in case Godhra riots these issues get much representation in media and political space and atleast we need the truth what trigger and there is now or two version of these story but if u moplah riots every one had different perspective that's why we need to differentiate between both having said both have other consequences as well after Godhra riots no major riots happened in Gujarat but in case of Moplah Islamic doctrine was use and hindu muslim unity slowly decreased and further lead to partition. So we need to look at context both were happened in different time and with different dispensation

[@snigdhajha24]

Dr Sampath is truly a gem for this country ❤

[@johnjacob7287]

Superb discussion..,👏🏽👏🏽

[@drShivaR]

Shame on Sardesai style of journalism. He singlehandedly destroyed the reputation of India today conclave.

[@FinanceUnlearn]

Yes, I completely agree. Someone of Sambit Patra's intellect should have been moderating this conversation.

[@foobar69]

@@FinanceUnlearn not much of a difference in this case

[@drShivaR]

@@FinanceUnlearn No. My point is that he's doing a pathetic job of what's expected of him and I surely not wish to witness a shrewd politician doing the job of what an honest journalist should be doing (which this fellow is Not doing).

[@thebatman0777]

Sometimes I wonder how sardesai became journalist

[@FinanceUnlearn]

@@thebatman0777 you have so much free time?

[@musical5446]

I have rarely seen tharoor being apologist in any interview to protect his party! Proud of you Vikram sampat! We need voices like you in international press debates representing India.

[@AmicableAgnostic]

Exactly and for the first time I saw that Tharoor didn't have an answer when he was asked how he wants people to remember British colonization but doesn't want to remember August 14 or brutality of Mughals. It's not easy to win any argument against Tharoor.

[@shrutiv8866]

You should also watch J Sai Deepak completely demolish Shashi Tharoor on his own book launch event… Dr. Tharoor was absolutely short on replies by questions and facts bombarded by JSD.

[@AmanSingh92]

@@shrutiv8866 Tharoor is one of the few people in Indian politics, who can go against the idelogy of his own party and apologies for it's wrongdoings on stage. A clap for Mr. Tharoor as well.

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊. KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5TEqX1smsagrA QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

@@shrutiv8866 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌

[@thesecondlife4832]

Really admire the way Dr. Sampath carried himself in this debate and put forward his stand in an affirmative and composed manner.

[@arunimamisra1721]

Who thought rajdeep was being stupid in the whole video?

[@harshitnigam8700]

It would have been a very productive discussion without Rajdeep's presence.

[@asnm4380]

No, you're mistaken. Such clowns' presence is desirable to some extent.

[@KuljeetSingh101]

Very well presented Dr. Sampath. You were very consistent and clear in your point of view about "truthifying" history while Dr. Tharoor's in the end, just took a balanced approach with a tinge of sly on the current government while his own party had indulged whitewashing the other side of history. That was just hypocritical of Dr. Tharoor. Nevertheless, overall a good discussion barring Sardesai's loonicasies.

[@jayanthisrinivasan9055]

Loonicasies.That's a wonderful word.

[@SpicedChaiilatte]

Well put.

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊. KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5TEqX1smsagrA QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

@@jayanthisrinivasan9055 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌 and Is marriage nacessary🙄

[@Glassful]

Mr. Sampath this country needs you even more..our generation was blinded by one sided shaded narrative…but next generation should be taught right history

[@somnathroy1710]

“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ― George Orwell

[@RS93518]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnuTkomCrr-kpcU Veersavakar biography

[@satishkumarsajjan2132]

And how to do that??

[@pranavsharma8454]

As the British, Indian Congress mugal bhaktihar kliji types did

[@Krishnendu792]

@@satishkumarsajjan2132 go through the NCERT history books. You will get your answers

[@satishkumarsajjan2132]

@@Krishnendu792 I went through it. But i couldn't extract the method. Can u please tell.

[@anilpillai9769]

This man Sardesai is insufferable. Baffles me, why would you put a guy like that in a debate like this?

[@rdug2165]

Agree, what a greaseball. Just sits there with that shit eating grin on his face even when someone is openly confronting him

[@akshaygp7789]

Well Pappu & his loyal 🐕 Dogs !!

[@shreeharily]

Insufferable... thats the word.

[@shaitanknowsbest3822]

50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊. KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5TEqX1smsagrA QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.

[@vikramgarg]

a fantastic debate between civilization and nation.

[@priyadarshimukherjee9571]

I hated history in school... only for this reason. But now, I love the subject.

[@rishabhchaubey3649]

Vikram Sampath is sharp and to the point. Too good to hear him.