Top 5 Best Foreshadowing Moments in Red Dead Redemption 2

[@IndoJordy]

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[@chasealford7999]

Indo-J hey can you tell me what the song is for you outro thing with the red screen?

[@indojforever9230]

amzing video like it and always love it

[@carter_RU]

Daniel Stewart Yup noticed that too

[@blubitatub]

@@danstewart4821 Thank you! Thought I was one of the only people who caught this! Such great foreshadowing on the writers part.

[@KaladinVegapunk]

Yeah, Jack's first meeting with Ross was some great symbolism Plus, the other scene with Bill and John the night of Sean's party where he's jealous John's the favorite But also where Arthur/Lenny/Hosea are buried! The latter two want to be buried with friends/family (which they are, after the bank robbery, right next to each other) And Arthur grudgingly admits he'd like to be buried facing the setting sun, on a hill haha

[@VivyTheHuntress]

Sean says to Bill “If you were my boss I’d never laugh again” Bill was the leader of the mission that Sean dies in.

[@IndoJordy]

Good one

[@mariuscorman6997]

Holy shit

[@uhhhkaylee4888]

well that’s one way to rip my heart out and yeet it to tahiti

[@justin2308]

I completely missed that connection.

[@Tony_Baudelaire01]

Didn’t even think about that sir bravo

[@warandpoetry9542]

"There ain't no way Dutch is just gonna hide away in a cave somewhere. Goes against everything he stands for. That'd be admitting that we're nothing but low-down criminals." - Arthur Morgan, 1899.

[@IndoJordy]

Yeah

[@yourmom6013]

Bailey Alexis Snow I feel like that’s one of the many ways the game shows Dutch went crazy, even if it did go against everything he stood for he went in to the caves and everything went to shit

[@Fidelitye]

Then in the end of RDR1 he tries to hide in a cave...

[@loficat4993]

@@yourmom6013 It was never about ideals, John says in the 1st game that they were just excuses to rob and kill who they wanted.

[@JuanSolo9]

Even during Chapter 6, the camp was at the mouth of a cave.

[@HomTolland69]

There's also a scene in camp where Arthur mocks Uncle's age, and Uncle said "I'll outlive all of you" Uncle outlived the whole gang except the Marston family

[@dexterjettster3683]

What about tilly, Charles, and Sadie and the others

[@arthurmorgan1007]

@@dexterjettster3683 probs will never know what happened to them unless they appear in rd3 if there is one

[@antigovernmentrhetoric]

Not entirely true, we don’t know what happened to the women / Pearson / Reverend Swanson / Charles

[@mr.picklejar]

@@antigovernmentrhetoric Im pretty sure if you look at one of he saint denis newspapers it says that "Reverend Swanson leader of new york church

[@OrlandoLong07]

@@antigovernmentrhetoric Pearson became the owner of a store and tilly became a book author, dunno about the rest

[@DanteOokami]

My favourite foreshadowing was when Ross meets Jack by the river, mocks him to enjoy it while it lasts, and then we see Jack kill Ross by the river at their ending.

[@wspman1662]

Fr the best moment

[@maxor6828]

@@wspman1662 screw edgar ross. I loved we got a bit of revenge at the end of rdr1 since he did john dirty.

[@ms.chanandlerbong595]

@@maxor6828 naw I hate it because it ruins everything that Arthur and John sacrifices themselves for. They wanted Jack to be better than them and to not go in the directions they took, but he did. So I personally hate the fact that he went after Ross, like Arthur said, “ Revenge is a fools game”

[@explorinjenkins349]

@@ms.chanandlerbong595 And now with the cycle of revenge coming back around I doubt Jack lived a long life. More Pinkertons are just gonna go and justify their wages.

[@ms.chanandlerbong595]

@@explorinjenkins349 yup, exactly

[@gubward]

I like the one where Lenny tells Micah that when he dies, there’ll be a big party. And then John gets married after he dies

[@manibaipilla1227]

After 9 years ?

[@greysoul8109]

@@manibaipilla1227 whut?

[@DuKi21893]

@@manibaipilla1227 i think he meant micahs death

[@salmonellq2981]

@@manibaipilla1227 after micahs death. And its 8 years after lenny died, not 9

[@npcvillager8703]

Kenny is my Nigga

[@iverkjellkken6569]

I think my favorite would in the beginning when Lenny says to Micah: "When you die, there will be a party" In the spring of 1907 Micah gets killed by John and Dutch. Later that day John and Abigail get married.

[@IndoJordy]

👍

[@615freeco4]

no relation

[@ggaston49]

@@615freeco4 yes there is but ok

[@Chris-dt5fg]

@@615freeco4 then explain foreshadowing please

[@talha1349]

@@Chris-dt5fg Lenny was right, there was a party when he died. You know what foreshadowing means right?

[@thenordicgreekman8884]

"I'm sure if the roles were reversed, he'd look for me" Javier said when John went missing Boy was he not wrong

[@itookashittoday1146]

I think it was “he’d look for me” regardless he was right lmao

[@CoolJoshido212]

haha

[@Dannyboyy1800]

You're not wrong

[@petertracycarroll]

People who hate jack just because he turned out exactly like his dad don’t understand the tragedy of the read dead series

[@A5AP_AV]

The funny part is, jack doesnt actually become a gunslinger, he kills ross and then becomes an author

[@drippydooku6347]

@@A5AP_AV we dont know this its just a theory

[@AcelJean]

Read dead? Did you misspell that on purpose because Jack loves to read?

[@HIGHqualityEmma]

@@AcelJean you're funny.

[@ogslegacy7703]

@@drippydooku6347 no he does in gta 5 the is a book on Franklins shelf called red dead redemption the arthur jack Marston

[@consolemainnoob8102]

Also after the end of the credits, John and Abigail are talking to each other right where their graves are in rd1

[@makaveli9789]

Shit, I never noticed that

[@AdamHaycee]

Shit man

[@prowthegamer]

Shit.... (3/17/19)

[@Sam-tx5py]

Your screen saver makes it funnier

[@jongriffin6004]

I’ll give this a shit too, good catch.

[@redrocket597]

“I’ll outlive all of ya” - John Marston

[@IndoJordy]

Yeah

[@geraltofrivia7448]

Well who knows what Charles and sadie did And abigail waa part of the gang

[@danieltukua4527]

@@geraltofrivia7448 Don't forget Mary Beth and the other girls.

[@geraltofrivia7448]

@@danieltukua4527 oh right Tho Karen died sadly

[@manibaipilla1227]

@@geraltofrivia7448 how and when did she die ?

[@loganrcooke]

Kieran said “I’d give my life for his” (jacks) When jack came back Kieran died

[@gastricchair9833]

Oh shit that's interesting

[@loganrcooke]

@@gastricchair9833 also on the mission where you and Dutch jump off a cliff in water he says “I got a plan” “this is a good one” and he said that in rdr1 when he jumped off a cliff

[@bigboiariel]

@@loganrcooke that's not foreshadowing, that's literally a reference to the first game

[@babushka2231]

Even tho Jack was throwing rocks at him and calling him o'driscoll kieran still loved him, true respect

[@cocob0l0]

@@babushka2231 Jack is a sweetheart, who doesn’t love him

[@jackmarston7644]

Out of all the ones who didn’t side with Arthur, Javier was probably the best.

[@dannedrake838]

In the end i hated him tho

[@bradyerker]

he was so cool but he was just too loyal

[@monsters691]

In the last scene where the gang points their guns at arthur and john you can see that Javier isn't actually aiming at you but at the sky because he can't bring himself to kill us

[@penndavis471]

nah bro fuck javier he’s just a mindless follower

[@castleshertz]

He prioritized loyalty

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

Jack literally became a gunslinger over abigails dead body

[@IndoJordy]

He did 😂

[@rajaerameek]

Jack F And the crazy thing about it he’s wearing Arthur jacket

[@Cat5_]

Wait NO WONDER ARTHURS JACKET LOOKED FAMILIAR

[@williammckay48]

@@rajaerameek *B O I*

[@BartyCrease98]

😂😂😂😂

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

I like how John's grave says "Blessed are the peacemakers" and Arthur's grave says "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness". Sums both them up perfectly.

[@IndoJordy]

👍

[@mangopie7602]

Doesn't Arthur's grave say different things depending on your honor level?

[@Dragoru]

@@mangopie7602 Yes. If he has low honor, it says something like "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted" or something like that.

[@jfk4577]

Matt S spot on

[@yamitaicho9100]

Actually Arthur's grave says "It could have gone smoother" And you can't tell me otherwise.

[@peytonpatenaude9587]

In RDR2 When John kills the rival rancher, he stands in the exact pose with the Sawed-Off Shotgun that he does on the Red Red Redemption cover

[@Mad-rg9sz]

They should have made him use that pose on Micah

[@ThaRealOne0]

NO WAY

[@themightypizzadevourer6018]

@@Mad-rg9sz true

[@themightypizzadevourer6018]

@Hewis Lamilton yo hewis lamilton

[@sullsosoto256]

I am SO glad I am not the only one that realized this!

[@dripsnake44]

Jack realizing he gets to be a gunslinger because Abigail died: *house building theme intensifies*

[@doomguyheretoshootsomepiec7240]

Nice.

[@calebshartzer9724]

*click* Noice.

[@cb-9938]

That just made my day 😂👍

[@sharkbyte1565]

if ya think about it jack is technically the last surviving member of dutchs gangs

[@IndoJordy]

What about tilly Sadie Charles ?

[@lachlanu3070]

Indo-J for all we know they could be long dead by the time we start playing as Jack, especially Sadie, given her daring lifestyle. If I remember correctly we don’t hear anything about them in Rdr1 so who knows

[@sharkbyte1565]

@@IndoJordy true but judging by what they did to john and Strauss its very possible the government killed them off by the events of RDR 1

[@DuKi21893]

@@sharkbyte1565 Charles is in Canada, Sadie in South America. I dont think the US Government were searching for them.

[@sharkbyte1565]

@@DuKi21893 judging by the fact they were looking for Javier in mexico unlikely in my opinion

[@phroggyyyy]

forgot the dailogue when arthur is asked how he would like to die, he says "probably facing west watching the sunset" which forshadows his death when u get the good ending when going with john.

[@benjaminlanfear8934]

Charles also buries Arthur on a hill facing west, and acknowledges that that’s what he wanted

[@furymern8162]

The opposite happened, though, he died facing east, which meant not the end of his life and the gang's, but the beginning of John's new life.

[@SchwayGoose]

@Mike Hunt Except Arthur died during the sunrise

[@IndoJordy]

True facing east

[@belgoesboom7968]

Good 👏honor👏is👏canon

[@ujjwalreal]

Jack Marston becoming a gunslinger is the saddest moment in all of RDR 1 and 2. Everything they did was so that this boy had a chance to grow up and be something else. Nobody wanted him to be an outlaw, including he himself I think. But violence begets violence, and the viscous dance continues, all in the name of revenge, generation after generation. There is no redemption, only vengeance. What a series.

[@alan897100]

I’m pretty sure that Jack doesn’t carry on being a gunslinger. In gta you can find a book called red dead redemption and it says that the author is j.marston. I think that Jack grew up to become an author and write about his adventures in the Wild West.

[@Nandoswitharando]

@@alan897100 I don’t think GTA and RDR are in the same universe. California and New York are real places in RDR but in GTA they are called San Andreas and Liberty City.

[@bleppyboo5969]

@@Nandoswitharando I think it's just a bit of a convergence. Like how the 3d era shares some things with the HD but they aren't entirely in the same universe. So like red dead happened but some things were different, like the Mandela effect sorta

[@egeozdemir5094]

When you put it that way, he gives me a whole lot of Jax Teller (SoA) vibes. Considering that the bikers are basically modern cowboys, you know the outlaw life and the steel horses. John Teller didn’t want the outlaw life for his son just like John Marston but he died before he could do anything about that. At least Jax succeeded at rescuing his sons from the outlaw life. And their names are basically the same too lol John Marston / John Teller Jack Marston / Jax (Jackson) Teller

[@adamfurr3269]

Ya Jack only wanted to get vengeance for his whole family the gang and leave it at that

[@goldblaze93]

These two moments of foreshadowing I like: After Arthur talks with Agent Milton while taking Jack fishing, Agent Ross tells Jack, "Enjoy your fishing, kid, while you still can." They first met by a river, and Jack later kills Ross by a river. Second one is John telling Javier in El Presidio, "I ain't the judge, but...as it turns out, it's you or me. The way I see it, might as well be you." The second game shows that John gets it from when Dutch drowns Angelo Bronte and feeds him to an alligator before saying, "It ain't nice, I know, but it's either us or him! I figure it might as well be him." That part kinda transforms John's quote in the first game to not only badass but also directly quoting Dutch.

[@m.k.1640]

Spoilers ahead! Also dutch was quoting himself before he jumped of the cliff in rdr1

[@psl109]

@@m.k.1640 Who by the way was quoting an author he is shown to like in rdr2, can't recall the name though

[@tylerwilson3507]

@@psl109 Evelyn Miller?

[@psl109]

@@tylerwilson3507 yep, that's the one

[@TylerFallsout]

Man Javier is actually good, he never actually aims at Arthur or John (when at the final standoff)because he still considers them brothers according to the Javier actor

[@fgwrts]

And technically he was good, since he didn't betray his leader

[@linnfredriksson5865]

And he and Bill didnt chase after John and Arthur

[@mrblonde609]

@@fgwrts So Arthur and John were bad, because Dutch considered them traitors, huh? Nah. Dutch is to blame. You can't betray someone, whose mind betrayed himself.

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

The way Javier puts his arm up, in slow mo, during the final stand off in rdr2, I think he was about to lower his arm to aim at Arthur and John. I'm not sure he was as ambivalent as people make out, like he was reluctant to fire at them. If he was impartial then he wouldn't have stood with Dutch, he'd have run over to the woman that got shot by micah or something.

[@fgwrts]

@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere I've watched that again, and he actually did aim his gun at them. You can see it when Dutch says "who amongst you, is with me, and who is betraying me" and when Agent Ross says "put your guns down".

[@Twinkerb3ll3]

I also love it in Chapter 1 when you have to go save John in the mountains, Javier says "I know if the situation were reversed... he'd look for me." I think that was my favourite part of foreshadowing/referencing in the game.

[@IndoJordy]

Thanks, it’s a cool one

[@williamlong7343]

That was Charles not Javier.

[@tamedpassions9523]

@@williamlong7343 Its Javier

[@zerosorigin8387]

Charles was at camp because his hand got injured from the Blackwater heist. He was in no condition to look for John.

[@oo_dxxp_oo]

Max Easey I’m loving the Baelish profile picture but yeah I agree

[@aidanhodson2664]

Bill: tell them to send someone a little more impressive next time John: ok *gets Arthur* Bill: oh shit

[@zakka7355]

@@marcialdospuforini1197 Arthur did exist rdr2 is the PREQUEL to rdr1, Arthur dies before John leaves and makes a family that’s why you never hear about Arthur

[@mrbombastic6571]

@@marcialdospuforini1197 are you dumb

[@mrbombastic6571]

@@marcialdospuforini1197 your the stupid one

[@mrbombastic6571]

@Jonathon Michael I know but the guy that made this comment was just making a joke and this dude was just being stupid .

[@yourbabushka3750]

@Jonathon Michael but he said he “never” existed

[@77ziomek45]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how great of a character Hosea was? I feel like Dutch's very last sanity died with him

[@blastbot7339]

Yea he and Lenny where my favs, yes I cried during the final mission of chap 4 what of it?

[@dingodog711]

@@blastbot7339 I did too,losing two of my favorite character in one misson was…tough for me to say the least

[@yangtheinsane5430]

You know if you kill Javi in the First Red Dead John has a regretful expression on his face, even after he spat on him. Yet when he kills Bill he gives no sign of regret. Guess John truly saw Javiar as a comrade than Bill.

[@wooza5919]

Bill was a great character as was Javier, and John wanted peace when he was capturing Bill. People just hate Bill for being white

[@IndoJordy]

True

[@penpenbrady]

@@wooza5919 no I just hate bill lol

[@yangtheinsane5430]

jesus christ himself I’m not so sure because he’s white is why people hate him, might be how he betrays you, creates the most horrid gang in the first game, kills innocent and tried killing John

[@doingcigs]

jesus christ himself bro what, bill is a total dick. he constantly starts fights in camp, is constantly messing up, and is always drunk. Javier is like the opposite 😂

[@mariguana7918]

Jack: I want to be a gunslinger! Abigail: Over My, John's, Uncle's, Dutch's, Bill's, Javier's, Micah's, Arthur's, Miss Grimshaw's, Strauss's, Molly's, Lenny's, Hosea's, Keiran's, and Sean's dead bodies!

[@hollowroxas4742]

Mariguana And arthur and john’s horses dead bodies too

[@adddddwait]

@@hollowroxas4742 In my case it was Gumball's dead body, i kept everything un spoiled, I cried way too much.

[@everflores8252]

Not to mention the Callander brothers

[@prska]

and jenny

[@batwithinnnnn]

And her actual body cause she is dead in the prologue of rdr

[@dirtydan693]

4 year old jack: imma be a gunslinger when i grow up! Abigail: over my dead body! Jack: bet women

[@needforspeedgaming7148]

*woman

[@Kazeantt]

@@needforspeedgaming7148 women is just fine

[@funkyoa]

@@Kazeantt Nope

[@stinkyballz9289]

@@Kazeantt women is plural

[@mayoayo7107]

I do not claim the negative energy in this comment

[@born_definition9805]

Jack: I wanna be a gunslinger Abagail: Over my dead body Me: *Well well... a double whammy*

[@anthonymuscarella2400]

Lol over her dead body "jack waits till she dies" murders edgar😂😂

[@YoungYahtz94]

I love the way RDR1 ends with Jack walking away and the title card popping up that shit was so hard lol

[@IndoJordy]

It was

[@conorohara5481]

You would like The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

The best and only way to end a game like that.

[@polishjerry5474]

I got fucking goosebumps on my balls.

[@mostafaahmedibrahim2541]

I'm kinda sad 2 didn't end like that but with marston

[@JuanSolo9]

Chapter 2 Javier: punches Micah for insulting him Chapter 6 Javier: has a private conversation with Micah, then laughs and shakes his hand

[@IndoJordy]

True

[@doingcigs]

When did he have a private conversation with Micah? I got a camp fight between Micah and Javier I’m Beaver Hollow where Javier was calling Micah a dick for something I can’t even remember

[@esco5593]

RDR2 Javier: Knocking Micah to his ass, holding Bill Williamson at bay with a knife RDR1 Javier: Pushing over a box and jumping out a window

[@johnmarston6912]

Don’t be so quick to judge, you don’t even know what Javier said to Micah or whatever

[@anonymoususer7716]

Javier: “we was family” John: “and then you and Dutch went crazy” That’s true but when John hops up the hill with a wound when Arthur is confronting Dutch they all join Dutches side (apart from John and Arthur) Javier is the only one that didn’t point a gun at them and aimed it upwards.

[@zachrengifo932]

Yea John did him dirty

[@prska]

@@zachrengifo932 he didnt tho, javier left him to die

[@zachrengifo932]

@@prska dutch said he was dead. He didn't know

[@prska]

@@zachrengifo932 lmao, they went back for john and then left him, how did javier know that dutch is right about john being dead?

[@user-vn7xh4cu8v]

@prcw blck Perhaps Javier just chose to believe Dutch, maybe he thought Dutch was right?

[@FischerFilmStudio]

“Can’t fight... gravity” I love that recurring speech. It sums up Dutch perfectly. All he ever has done is stir up as much chaos as possible and then run like a coward when consequences arose. His death was him finally attempting one last escape.

[@610Blackhawk]

I really liked how both times before he jumped off the cliff he went, “I have a plan… This is a good one.”

[@warandpoetry9542]

"I know if the situation were reversed, he'd look for me." - Javier Escuella on John Marston, 1899

[@IndoJordy]

Chapter 1

[@OneMan-wl1wj]

Only the situation was not reversed. Javier searches for a wounded friend in desperate need of help out of loyalty and concern. John however, is forced to hunt down a backstabbing fugitive who he'd have preferred to forget.

[@sotsu618]

I mean-

[@fgwrts]

If you think about it, John is worse than Micah as he killed members of the gang. I guess Micah killed Arthur, but he would die regardless

[@anonymoususer7716]

PinkKoala well sorta but Micah causes the deaths of most gang members like Hosea, Lenny, Mrs Grimshaw, Arthur and In a way Micah also killed John

[@justincopus3983]

When Dutch says, “In the end, I think you will betray me, Arthur.” In the camp in Chapter 2. That was some good foreshadowing. But Dutch betrays Arthur first. At the oil factory, but especially when the O’Driscolls kidnap him and Dutch sits on his ass and does nothing.

[@SmokeyGames420]

Dutch most likely couldn't find the place they held Arthur. They took Arthur to some random ass cabin.

[@justincopus3983]

Toxic Gaming how did Dutch get away? That’s a plot hole though, and it pains me to discuss plot holes on such a great game.

[@RustinCohlee]

Justin Copus Colm’s plan was to kidnap Arthur and have Dutch and the gang come to the cabin to save him, so he could get the police on them. Dutch didnt know anything had even happened yet probably. He didnt see Arthur get taken

[@IndoJordy]

True

[@terminallumbago6465]

Dutch didn't seem to know Arthur had been captured

[@deimos7577]

Fair play to Ross. He could have blasted Jack with his shotgun, but instead had the duel.

[@bloodangel19]

His shotgun was pointed up, Jack could have cleared leather by the time Ross fired. And even if he did, what if he missed? By the time he would be able to shoot again Jack's sixshooter would've put half a dozen holes in him. Just saying

[@Imakeplaylists-in1pw]

As prickly of a motherfucker as he was at least he fights like a man. Even when faced with his killer he stands tall and doesn't cower.

[@FunnyStripes]

And, he was duck hunting, so presumably that shotgun was loaded with birdshot ammo, which of course is kinda rubbish against human targets.

[@neowlf]

​@@FunnyStripesyeah a normal shotgun ammo would obliterate the duck

[@Papa_Waffles]

"Revenge is a fool's game, let it go it was so long ago." These words come to mind with many people in this series. Dutch, Micah, Bill, John and Jack. Red Dead is nothing but a series of tragedy, revenge and hollow victory. The endings are bittersweet, you finish it but never feels how you want it.

[@cb-9938]

Well said

[@justcole9660]

You forgot when Arthur said to Sean about his head being hit on the train "at least you don't have a hole in it".

[@IndoJordy]

True, my bad

[@hunterguzman6232]

Man I thought it was funny the first time Jack and Edgar met was on the bank of a river and the last time it was on the bank of a river

[@IndoJordy]

Yup

[@MASTERDavid007]

Gotta love Rock Star for that one

[@joeevans9940]

Enjoy your fishing, kid.

[@TheNickness]

That's actually the best foreshadowing and it's a shame it wasn't on this list. I mean, when Ross said "Enjoy your fishing kid, while you still can" it gave me chills

[@JJ-zd9vs]

That’s weird cause Jack was fishing when Ross showed up, and then when Jack came to kill Ross, Ross was fishing

[@supriyav4408]

Spoilers What about the one where bill tells Kieran “you’ll die boy, but you lose your balls first. Then later in the story, the odriscolls scoop kierans eyes out befor he dies

[@everflores8252]

He never specify which balls

[@BopaBola]

@@UAGoWSuplexer theyve shown balls many times for one...but the guy was making a joke in reference to the literal thing that happened...ya mook

[@Neuer2777]

@@UAGoWSuplexer the wolf guy, if you kill him and his family (wolves) you can see his baguette

[@UAGoWSuplexer]

@@BopaBola you dumb casual kid i was talking about RDR2 not past games i specifically said " in the game " This is Rockstars best graphics game to date and it would be inappropriate for seeing genitals in cutscenes or something (like the scene in LENNY mission where you go upstairs and you see them having $e× But they didn't even show the tits), but even in 1899 there were alot of naked guys

[@UAGoWSuplexer]

@@Neuer2777 i guess there is baguette in the game but this seems only if you want to see it same in like GTA 5 the naked men

[@chadflores2749]

“You Killed My Father. Prepare to Die” - Jack Marston

[@puccapunch2027]

Also when your looking for your camp in Rhodes Arthur says Dutch is not the kind of man to hide out is some cave, but just look at the last camp.

[@griz312]

Noremac Thims he also Hides in a cave in RDR1 and commits suicide by jumping out of a cave.

[@IndoJordy]

Really ?

[@zxck2266]

@@IndoJordy Yes that foreshadowing was really good and it was when Arthur rides with Charles to get a new camp location

[@TheReelHeel]

FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONED THIS! Thought I was the only person that caught that reference.

[@knightingale9833]

Oddly enough, in Chapter 6, they don't actually hide in a cave... They set up camp outside of it for some reason. That always bothered me. I was always looking at that camp like "why did you set up OUTSIDE of the hideout? That entrance is tiny, if the Pinkertons attacked it, they'd be mowed down!

[@ibdgonzo]

I think the better foreshadowing of Jacks future would be when Arthur took him fishing, they ran into Edgar Ross and he said, "Enjoy the fishing while you still can, kid." To Jack. A decade later, Jack shoots Edgar while he was fishing.

[@moret25]

Well Ross was duck hunt- ehh forget it XD

[@Deathpool_04]

I’m surprised people are still getting this wrong. Ross was duck hunting, not fishing but they met next to a river and they meet for the last time by a river.

[@c.l8375]

Deathpool_04 fish hunting duck hunting stop taking it so literal

[@ilearnedhownottobejealous2301]

Im salty...how do you get something like that worong,the guy is carrying a shotgun...how the fuck his he fishing?

[@Deathpool_04]

3Block Ko I didn’t mean to say it in a aggressive or offensive way but really? The game’s been out for 3-4 months now. It’s really surprising that people are still getting confused. It’s almost like the thing where people confuse the hat that Arthur gave to John to be the same one that John wears in RDR1 which is wrong too when they are clearly different hats.

[@clichedan7812]

A Javier prequel would be awesome. He was a revolutionary fighter in Mexico before the games and he’s got a whole lot of background for a character that really doesn’t get a whole hell of a lot of screen time.

[@clouds7023]

I remember one stranger mission where you return a doctors wagon. He gives a book with recipes. He says it can’t cure anything chronic Arthur’s TB

[@oldarthurmorgan6319]

But you may not need it

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

Bill is just a younger, trigger happy Uncle without Lumbago

[@IndoJordy]

Yup

[@pedrochrystello8502]

bill could never live up to the title of "the one shot kid"!

[@Chopper51138]

The Womping Wampa Uncle despite his laziness was one of the smartest members of the gang, Bills dumb as hell.

[@nico-gz2wj]

do NOT disrespect my mans uncle like that ever again

[@omicron7880]

What’s lumbago?

[@jeeves5830]

I can’t believe people actually get the bad ending

[@IndoJordy]

I like it more

[@friedchickenlover7291]

@@IndoJordy How so?

[@El_Fonzo]

Not everyone's a sissy

[@user-ux4gu2lh8c]

@@El_Fonzo Whats the point of a dude whos gonna die in a few days trying to get money. The sissy thing is to run after money rather than die like a hero

[@El_Fonzo]

ᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟ ᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟᅟ good for you sport. Not everyone lives in a Disney fantasy world

[@kriscorner9390]

“But I wanna be a gunslinger when I grow up!” Awwww he says that so innocently.

[@ChristianS28]

There's also a part in Colter, where when John was lost and Arthur and Javier were going to look for him, and Javier said "If the roles were reversed, he'd look for me." Then John went looking for him in RDR1. Not the best connection, but it's a connection.

[@talentleesdorito9771]

Bill changed a little javier changed into another man

[@IndoJordy]

True that

[@jesusmorales2652]

A coward? Do you want me to kill john amigo, thats why you call me a coward?

[@DucknFope]

Javier Escuella Lmao I killed you in rdr1 amigo..

[@herbertmoon2969]

Really though

[@gavzMC-3506]

bandito dorito Fuk Bill

[@VivekYadav-ds8oz]

He did indeed become a gunslinger over her dead body..

[@IndoJordy]

True

[@ayeyobossman6151]

Was he really a gunslinger? The only thing he does is kill one guy. Sure you can do stuff outside of finding Ross but he's not the same as John

[@tryhardf844]

@@ayeyobossman6151 Im pretty sure Rockstar is going to dive deep into his story now.

[@ayeyobossman6151]

@@tryhardf844 but there's no "wild west" at the end of the first game. It's world war 1 about that time.

[@GigaChadh976]

ohIcanChangeMyNameIDKthat The spirit could still be there

[@miketheknight522]

Imagine if they made remastered versions of rdr1 where, while john still doesn’t mention arthur, but it clears up plotholes and he doesn’t act like everyone in the gang betrayed him, referring to arthur by things other then name

[@septicstache9625]

02:35 Dutch after killing Bronte in RDR2: "It's us, or him. I figured it might as well be him." They are so different, but it's pretty obvious that John was raised by Dutch

[@chanceklippstein]

Well yeah you hear john talk about how dutch met him when he was only 12 years old I believe. So he was raised by the gang definitely

[@tiimmoo8014]

The change in Javier personality is unacceptable

[@IndoJordy]

yeah other actor

[@sebassbl4085]

Similar to how Dutch changed

[@c3ru1ean41]

Sebastián Salerno // nah.... dutches change you can see happen before your eyes. Javier it felt so sudden.

[@Joe-rq5cv]

Yeah cuz he's "loyal"

[@kn6706]

While I agree that seeing him in both games back to back, it's jarring, we have to remember that it's more than ten years between when we last see him in RDR2 and his appearance in RDR1. A lot happened to him in that time. My thinking is that soon after the end of RDR2, Dutch abandoned Javier and Bill, leaving Javier with no authority figure to guide him and leaving him distraught and with nothing left. Having nothing left for him in the USA, he went back to Mexico, becoming a gun for hire and slowly becoming more violent, selfish, and careless as the life he once cherished completely collapsed around him.

[@gjeraonyt1356]

3:42 Its funny cause in the good ending, after Micah leaves Arthur to die, Arthur smiles for a bit

[@IndoJordy]

He did

[@bigsmoke1522]

3:23 I think I like Javier more after this.

[@grimreefer9324]

Man, Jack’s voice actor was uhhh... not as good as John’s in Red Dead 1.

[@Unknown-ml4nt]

His voice makes him sound like a doucuebag

[@mayoayo7107]

@@Unknown-ml4nt well 4 year old Jack is voiced by an adult woman

[@Unknown-ml4nt]

@@mayoayo7107 hi abigail, do you think Arthur is handsome

[@ahmadzayidan6817]

it's a character development purpose, DAs.

[@dreadlordhg360]

He's a young man dude

[@starset4life175]

I implore Bill to be careful about starting his own gang.

[@IndoJordy]

😂

[@Kamesuko]

You mean M a r i o n

[@RuziNuk3]

You IMPLORE him?

[@tyrone5619]

Implores

[@adriandinu1395]

I insist

[@uncle1839]

They all should had made me the leader of the gang

[@IndoJordy]

True that uncle

[@Wildcard-Jack-47]

Uncle what about your lUmBago

[@uncle1839]

@@Wildcard-Jack-47 Oh shit

[@itzsilver6421]

Uncle Lumbago really

[@uncle1839]

@@itzsilver6421 its a serious medical condition

[@callumager537]

“How many times must I bury you John Marston?” “Never! You ain’t never burying me”

[@rocco7287]

😬

[@TheTrueFawaz]

Spoiler warning lads for both games I was interacting with uncle in the epilogue and here is how it went John: “So when are you leaving” Uncle: “I ain’t goin’ anywhere this is where you’ll be burying me...” (in a not serious tone) John: “if you know when that will be then tell me...please” 4 YEARS LATER *uncle gets shot* John muttering under his breath while jack is panicking (only if you have good honor): shit...the time came

[@cb-9938]

For me he was also sitting in the same spot he died In the first game

[@JackOfAllTradersOriginal]

You know. John was gona spare Javier till he threw a crate onto him

[@IndoJordy]

Maybe

[@joelarson1733]

I didn't think so. But I definitely thought that he should've, because Javier basically spared John when he could have drawn on him.

[@Grandmaster_Dragonborn]

John probably would have, but he would have still taken him in; he does still value Javier as his brother, but his will to get Abigail and Jack back outweighs everything.

[@Eightflights]

u still can u just give him to thr fbi alive

[@robertdorrell4427]

@@joelarson1733 agreed

[@Ryan-cs3uc]

There’s a camp encounter where Dutch says he has two theories on how to argue with women and neither of them work. John uses that line in RDR1 Hes a goddamn line thief.

[@IndoJordy]

I know that one

[@petermcconville0]

There are a few occasions when you hear Arthur repeating stuff you've heard Dutch say, such as that line about revenge being a fool's errand. It really shows how charismatic a leader Dutch was in his prime.

[@janusceasar7851]

@@petermcconville0 or how hypocrite he is...

[@nerdzilla1355]

also the "it's either us or them, might as well be him" line

[@madmuziq]

*"I iMpLoReS yOu."*

[@emmalynch893]

I think a much smaller foreshadowing moment that people don’t pay attention too is in Rhodes, if Arthur helps this doctor get his wagon back after it’s been stolen he gives Arthur a book that helps you craft tonics to help your health, and the doctor will say “it won’t help with anything chronic, but you might not need it too” this is all before we start to notice that signs of Arthur being severely sick.

[@rafaelalodio5116]

When you are in the epilogue of RDR2, after you build your ranch, when you get out of the barn it have the same animation and light effect as when John dies in RDR.

[@IndoJordy]

Really ?

[@rafaelalodio5116]

indo-J at least I think so.

[@elsalamisteve4260]

Yup I loaded up a previous save just to check out of curiosity

[@agnosisparadigm4212]

The high honor ending is the Canon ending.

[@furymern8162]

@@cocob0l0 Proof is that Arthur changed as a man after getting tuberculosis, if you did not understand that, you are dumb.

[@jadnee]

Mate Bruv uh..search it up

[@crimsoncherry3525]

@@cocob0l0 Um dumbass? The whole point of the story was him renouncing his criminal ways and becoming a beacon of good for the last few weeks he had left.

[@frogoruu]

*Redemption*

[@carlosiraheta9735]

@@cocob0l0 its literally in the tilted

[@diobrando7774]

0:45 "Tell them to go back and bring someone a little more impressive next time" John: Comes back with Arthur

[@halw.9011]

And Arthur says "I see you're still as lazy as a toad and twice as ugly Williamson"

[@driftersforge4962]

That would have been amazing

[@A5AP_AV]

And then after arthur kills bill he just says “alright well, i should be getting on”

[@kiwikoopa6806]

One thing that i always liked was how Javier's character turned out. In rdr2, he was kind and 100% for the gang and Dutch. When shit hits the fan and John sides with Arthur over Dutch, Javier sides with Dutch because Javier wasn't present during the argument. He runs in after to tell everyone they are in danger. Then in rdr1 when John comes for him, Javier could've killed John but he didn't. He pushed something on John to buy time to run away. I think his reluctance to kill John really shows his view of the gang. He calls John his brother even though it gets thrown in his face. I also really liked that in rdr1, John doesn't have to (or can't) kill Bill, Javier, or Dutch. It flows nicely with the story of the prequel.

[@Chessete]

When Dutch and Arthur jump off the cliff to escape the army Dutch gives the same speech he did when he jumped off a cliff in RDR 1

[@IndoJordy]

I have that covered in another video

[@heyyou9472]

"Enjoy your fishing, kid, while you still can." - Edgar Ross, to Jack Marston.

[@IndoJordy]

Yeah

[@zerosorigin8387]

RealShork Duck hunting

[@heyyou9472]

More or less, it was that Jack got revenge for his father near a river. A river is where it all started, and a river is where it all ended.

[@oogisboogis]

Oh how the turntables 😂😂😂

[@ghstcffee7717]

you really start to realize no one in the gang was just inherently bad, they did bad things and lived a bad lifestyle but it was because they had nothing left but each other, it just all broke and since it was their family, it broke them

[@dannyhernandez265]

Except for Micah. But yeah you’re right.

[@Xmunchiexx]

@@dannyhernandez265 Watch Once Were Warriors. It's a New Zealand movie. It's a story of a family who fall apart after Jake, the dad's, alcoholism and abuse to his wife and children. It reminds me of that. A family who are destroyed simply because of one person who treats the others so cruelly.

[@genie153]

danny hernandez and Arthur

[@genie153]

danny hernandez Arthur and Micah is on the same evil chart

[@imogenscarlet]

@@genie153 did we- did we play the same game?

[@dominicanguy9117]

I hate how things ended with Javier I really believe he was one of the real ones on the team

[@griz312]

There is one in the epilogue where Sadie and John catch a mexican gang member from Mexico. John comments he would never go to Mexico. Edit: John makes a comment in the end of the mission " Afavor for an old friend"

[@IndoJordy]

Really ? Thanks for the heads up !

[@griz312]

Indo-J it's in the mission A favor for an old friend.

[@celino22]

there is a dialogue between Javier and Karen about visiting Mexico someday (this makes me hope that she can appear in a DLC in Mexico)

[@SpliffyHusk]

He says this because of how crazy the gang is

[@griz312]

celino santos i hope R* really takes a chance in Story DLC post main story and confirm the fate of Karen and Javier's journey back to Mexico

[@grimoneill9406]

I don't think anyone has commentrd this minor detail but the encounter with Agent Milton and Ross at the river, where Milton tells Arthur that he and his gang are all gonna die in just a matter of time? "You people venerate savagery - and you will die savagly! All of you!" "Oh we're all gonna die" "Some of us more *sooner* than others!" Ironic how he died right before an outlaw with tuburculosis.

[@PedroHenrique-su8nl]

Ikr

[@IndoJordy]

Yeah

[@2KXMKR]

I remember I chose to use the high powered pistol (the one Ross gives to John) in that final duel. It added so much more to those few seconds Jack looks at the gun. Redemption!

[@mrwilson9885]

Jack: excuse me mr Ross we haven’t met before So they just forgot about the time when he and Milton rudely interrupted Arthur’s and Jacks fishing trip

[@theafrica5896]

yeah, totally not because rdr2 didn't exist back then and the lore was way different

[@taylorstratford9717]

You tend to forget things when you're 4 years old and 15 years pass

[@sash9249]

"You gotta learn to finish things Jack." "I know..." You should have included that scene with Arthur and Jack. That foreshadows Jack's revenge for John.

[@IndoJordy]

👍thanks for the tip

[@ArthurMorgan-_-]

Well jack did become a gunslinger *over her dead body*

[@IndoJordy]

True

[@dutchvanderlinde353]

_That's my boy joining the family business_

[@ElPresidenteMargz]

I’d say it’s debatable in way but true in another . There are RDR Easter eggs in GTAV and one of them is a book shelf where there are books written by Jack (he ended up becoming an author). So he probably didn’t end up like John or Arthur. In the other hand he didn’t make Abigail, John, or Arthur proud by killing Ross ( “leave and never look back” “revenge is a fools game”)

[@charleswarner5844]

@@dutchvanderlinde353 any good plans lately?

[@dutchvanderlinde353]

@@charleswarner5844 _Robbing the Blackwater bank again_

[@d4n1s0n7]

“I wanna be a gunslinger when I grow up” “Over my dead body” “Aight bet”

[@Tom-ht7rx]

As much as I love how the 2nd game makes so much of the 1st game clear, one thing i never understood was Bill and Javier never really went insane like they were in the 1st game, they were just loyal to Dutch.

[@CallsignRogue]

If you listen to Bill talk in camp, especially around the campfire chats the gang members have on occasion, it becomes pretty clear that Bill is pretty fucking dumb, and at least on the road to being insane. As for Javier, I don't really think he ever was insane, even in RDR1.

[@tailsbread]

@@CallsignRogue honestly I’m pretty sure Javier had something between him and Dutch before the events of Rdr1. Maybe Javier was consumed from guilt for siding with Dutch and not Arthur and John that eventually lead to making him insane

[@jakesimmonds6327]

Sean saying if bill was my boss i would never laugh again foreshadows his death as bill was in charge during that particular mission

[@wooza5919]

Micah was in charge and he saw the trap coming

[@IndoJordy]

True

[@TheOriginalEdFry]

Bill was the one who set thr "security gig" up with the Grey's

[@charlesthemilkman512]

Anybody ever noticed how 19yr old Jack dresses similar to Arthur. Probably just a coincidence.

[@IndoJordy]

His role model

[@nabber2002]

Makes me wonder if Jacks jacket is meant to retroactively be Arthur’s

[@thaeldir8923]

A coincidence. Since they didn't plan arthur in yet at the time

[@thaeldir8923]

@@JujuGlueshoes i can read i said it was a coincidence

[@thaeldir8923]

@@JujuGlueshoes its not even arthurs main outfit he switches his "main outfit" the very next chapter You're trying to make connections that dont exist and dont mean anything Jack was too young to remember arthur anyway jack said it himself

[@ActuallyLucasXD]

One of my favorite moments of foreshadowing is in the chapter 2 train robbery. After Sean hurts his head he complains he will have a huge bump there to which Arthur replies: *”At least you don’t have a hole in it!”*

[@zedbags]

"He implores me" *"Implores"*

[@xxlamaxx1]

Jack killing Ross is the tragedy of the series, because he was the only real hope for redemption and a new life. Instead, he gets too hot headed to realise what his father learned and he dooms his fate. Similar to Rain Falls and Eaglie Flies.

[@IndoJordy]

True

[@DDPunk18]

I want a DLC in Mexico to show how much Javier is changed because it's not possible how Javier in RDR2 is how he is in RDR1

[@IndoJordy]

Same with me

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

A Sadie DLC Bill Williamson DLC how he made his gang. Charles DLC Javier DLC How he lives in Mexico before his exile or before RDR1 how he became a hitman for the Mexican Government. Also a Micah DLC: Micah’s gangs between Arthur’s death and his gangs demise by John Marston. Also Dutch DLC: on how he became a gang leader of the natives that cause chaos in West Elizabeth.

[@Amogus-vf3mf]

Needs bill to b involved

[@jeambeam3173]

@@elperrodelautumo7511 u can also do how Dutch met Hosea and Arthur

[@1320viper]

Leroy Mcjenkins or save that for rdr 3 and you play as hosea

[@Luke-pd7xj]

“YOu HIt liKe YoU DrESS”- meanwhile Micah falls to the ground from his punch at 3:26.

[@MiloMcCarthyMusic]

Sean saying “I’d never laugh again” in the first one is also foreshadowing because bill was in charge of the mission where he got shot

[@jordanluma6816]

Sorry but Arthur dies on Mt Hagen facing West watching the sunrise knowing John made it away safely.

[@IndoJordy]

Yup

[@luisdorigon334]

Sorry but the sunrise happens in the east, not the west, so he dies facing the east.

[@baileyjohnston9197]

Idiot that’s just one of the endings

[@jordanluma6816]

John Marston nigga u get merked by a nigga named EdGaR😤😂😂😂

[@TheSuperblackmetal]

It wasnt Mr Hagen. It's a rocky hill next to three sisters, on the border of new hanover and east Grizzlies. And yeah, the sunrises on the East. His grave, though, faces west.

[@imanobody5898]

Jack :I wanna be a gunslinger when I grow up Abigail :over my dead body Jack :bet 15 year later Jack : hello Ross ( bang ) I told you mama I going to be a gunslinger

[@wolfox712]

He did follow her orders.. She said "Over my dead body", therefore Jack seemed to oblige.

[@imanobody5898]

Wolfox ture

[@IndoJordy]

Nice right ?

[@fajardiniarikamil2712]

Ross accept the duel and lost, jack beat him fair and square , i see no crime at all

[@malachidaniel1413]

@@fajardiniarikamil2712 hmmmmm

[@lukim2744]

The one between Javier and john hit the most. Mannn they were all brothers at one point, but things change and John's family means more to him then what love the gang had in the past.

[@OmnitrixIX]

One I like is where Sadie and John are talking about Mexico and Sadie telling John he wouldn't last a day

[@Eeeeeeeeeeeee420]

I found something that nobody else ever talks about. In rdr2 I played poker it was me, John, and somebody else I can’t remember. But John said “you know that gunslinger Landon Rickets? They say he has a weak spot for poker” and I’m pretty sure John played poker with him (or at least something like that it’s been years since I’ve played the first rdr)

[@IndoJordy]

Yes they do in chuparosa

[@trentdevlaminck9927]

Omg i found this too. I love this game and the amazing universe it consists of

[@MASTERDavid007]

God I would love to play as Landon in his prime. Maybe someday.

[@Eeeeeeeeeeeee420]

DOLOMITE I think it’d be really cool as a spin off dlc but as a full protagonist I couldn’t see it cause he doesn’t seem like the type to be hunting and that kind of stuff

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

He sure does. The way he says it too shows that he idolises Landon Ricketts, which you see in RDR. Probably explains why he's such a good gunslinger. They should have had him practicing around camp.

[@chubbchubbs620]

I know Arthur’s death was sad but, John’s Death made me sad for weeks after i played. I wanted him to live and grow old see his son grow into a man, i wanted Abigail to live as well. I hope RDR3 will be about Jack, and him being older. Charles and Sadie come back expecting to see John, Abigail and Uncle but all that’s left at Beecher’s Hope is a lonely Jack and he gets to visit with them again after so long. Something for Jack to look back, make him feel like he still has living Family. Make a Story out of it, and for Chrissake’s LET THEM ALL LIVE FOR ONCE! LMFAO.

[@ChannelNotFound]

How will we have a western game set after 1914? The old west is dead, and the age of the gunslingers is long over.

[@sheriffroscoebrown9428]

ChannelNotFound the old west may have been long gone but still a lot of america was uncivilized i’d love to see a end to jacks story and i know rockstar could find a way to make it work

[@grimwolf3579]

I don’t know if they’d even do that, I’m not saying this is for sure the end but I just don’t believe that there’s going to be another

[@okimasu4213]

I want a RDR3 based on before the black water heist

[@grimwolf3579]

RN So, a prequel to a prequel?

[@savagepanda8458]

“Enjoy your fishing, kid, while you still can...”

[@ez_is_confused6004]

Another interesting one, in chapter 2 when your riding out with charles to find another camp after the valentine massacre arthur says "And there ain’t no way dutch is just gonna hide away in a cave somewhere, goes against everything he stands for” Really puts to show that at the end of Arthurs life Dutch completely lost it

[@karlpulver8979]

One day folks will take orders from me

[@IndoJordy]

They did

[@leungzinwang4188]

Bill Williamson also I have a question why did you always angry

[@dutchvanderlinde7328]

I am in CHARGE

[@parkerholm539]

I implore you to not start your own gang

[@eliteboy24]

Boi shut your army serving hillbilly inbred ass up. Ps thank you for your service 😂

[@ArminasMisinas]

One thing i liked is that Jack shot Ross like a dog, same as John did with Micah.

[@SmokeyGames420]

More like Ross shooting John like a dog.

[@IndoJordy]

Yeah

[@OneMan-wl1wj]

Has anyone actually ever shot a dog??

[@SuperToddjohnson]

One Man 1970 I shot a dog once. Back in ‘74. Shot it out of a canon into the side of a bin covered in cum.

[@eltonj888]

And what’s more strange, is that Micah killed Cain, Jack’s old dog.

[@EruseanPug]

"Over my dead body" Jack, you weren't supposed to take that seriously