Indonesia's Transition To Biomass Sparks Resistance: Can Bioenergy Work? | Power To The People

[@thegrandlord2914]

Dear westerners who's still yapping about palm oil Compared to EU's vegetable oil plantation, indonesian palm oil plantation produce 8x more oil/hectare, but only using 10% of land compared to EU's

[@lyq232]

But muh poor Euro economy!

[@hellogoodbyestaysavage6283]

don't worry brother you don't have to explain to them being underestimated and silenced is a gift for the development of our country 😉

[@ilhamaar1802]

😂.. Hahahaaa... Tenang... *TENANG* ... lebih teenang UE amat sangat butuh CPO kitaa.. mereka sangat membutuhkan produk turunan dari olahan CPO, itulah bentuk dukungan pemerintahan UE & AS (gerilya) untuk industri mereka, termasuk menentang *HILIRISASI NIKEL* 😂... 😂... Dalam PILPRES 2024 indonesia , ada capres yg menentang hilirisasi 🤔 🤭...🤭 Kitaa jogetin ajaahh *Okegass..OKEGASss*

[@rsmith02]

This has nothing to do with the program which is on destroying Indonesia's forests for small amounts of electricity. Deforestation for palm oil has dramatically slowed in recent years. The plantations produce oil efficiently as you say- this issue is when you clear rainforests for them.

[@thegrandlord2914]

@@rsmith02 read what i wrote again, slowly and carefuly to understand the context. You are wellcome

[@kenirawadi4689]

Even Germany use wood for energy. They are cutting forest while Indonesia use the agriculture waste. Indonesia is correct. Do not listen to other people.

[@rsmith02]

For Indonesia to replace significant amounts of coal with biomass agricultural waste isn't enough. Indonesia's exporting the most usable waste (palm kernel shells) to Japan to burn in their power plants. Wouldn't it be better to keep that in Japan and not burn Indonesia's forests for energy?

[@thegrandlord2914]

@@rsmith02 there are so many naughty exporters in indonesia who care about profit more than anything. Capitalist indeed

[@jankoller3897]

Agree with you bro .. ❤

[@triyantoprabowo8996]

Singaporean investing in Indonesian palm oli industry and need to get high instant return by burning n cutting forest, also singaporean critizing Indonesia for cutting forest n haze

[@kenirawadi4689]

@@triyantoprabowo8996 You are right.

[@ChannelLocal812]

With Indonesia's wealth of natural resources, Indonesia will not depend on other countries. what Indonesia is doing, they know better what they have to do than having to listen to other countries.. move forward Indonesia.

[@badnotgood]

big talk but indonesian can't find job in their own country. hihihi...need to borrow more money to build IKN.

[@muhammadjoshua7464]

@@badnotgood it's called foreign investment, go back to school child

[@badnotgood]

@@muhammadjoshua7464 which one? Find jobs in another country or borrow money?..🤔😅

[@MahesaPati-sz1lv]

Keep moving forward Indonesia

[@imtheeastgermanguy5431]

That is stupid

[@ilvannurrochman1197]

​​@@imtheeastgermanguy5431 if western says stupid, that's mean the correct way for us, cause you guys just hypocrites😂 you guys always yapping even your own problem was more even worst and terrible😂

[@manhome22]

I strongly believe the NGO protesting is paying people and provides all the props (just like majority of protest in Indonesia). If you're believe in doing something nobles, then do it right & honest. Else....

[@andipejalan3382]

I work in big industry which is used biomass as alternative fuel. Mostly it comes from the rice husk. Previously RH just burnt by rice farmer after crop season, but now it becomes expensive commodity and very difficult to get. With biomass we can reduce the use of fossil fuel more than 10 % and it promising to reduce until 50 % if the source are available. Can you imagine how much CO2 can be reduced and also giving back positive impact to company by reducing energy cost !

[@rsmith02]

How much energy could you get if you collected all the ag waste that is possible to collect? Is it significant?

[@sayidafzal7534]

Padahal banyak perusahaan Singapore yang investasi kelapa sawit di indonesia , contoh nya Wilmar , singapore meraup ke untungan dari ini

[@SonyThamrin]

I really agree with bamboo biomass energy. Because bamboo grows very quickly and is sustainable. Bamboo is also easy to grow on remote islands.

[@MANADOSTREET]

Agree doank tanam donk...biar tahu harga tanah udah mahal dimana2 kalo tanam beginian malah rugi...

[@SonyThamrin]

@@MANADOSTREET Santai saja Pak Agus Purwanto. Proyek kami sudah menanam sebanyak 59.763 pohon multiguna di seluruh Provinsi Banten. Untuk kesejahteraan petani di Provinsi Banten, proyek kami juga sudah membangun: - 32 kolam air atau embung. - 160 jaringan irigasi sawah. - 35 pompa irigasi. - 59 dam parit. - 106 Jalan Usaha Tani. - 26 sumur resapan. Dan saya juga sudah paham betul harga tanah di Provinsi Banten. Termasuk para mafia tanah yang menyengsarakan masyarakat lokal.

[@wyrdofmeh]

@@MANADOSTREET kalau ga bisa komen baik baik mending diem deh

[@ahmadnurokhim4168]

@@MANADOSTREET malu ga tuh hehe

[@abdurrohim1157]

@@MANADOSTREET Englih please, idio-D!

[@cobacoba1566]

Indonesia has the right to manage its natural resources for its own interests. To be fair, the world's population should pay Indonesia, so that wild forests in Indonesia can continue to be maintained, because the world's population also get benefit from these forests for centuries. The irony is that these called "environmental warriors", still using petrol motorized vehicles for transportation, still use electricity supplied from the power plants they are protesting against instead of using their own solar or wind energy either in their offices or homes. They force other people to change their lifestyle quickly, but they themselves still don't change their lifestyle.But of course, on the other hand, all "environmental criminal" must be opposed and punished harshly.

[@ryerye9019]

Indonesia isn't managing its natural resources for future generations. Politicians would cut and sell ever tree in the country if made them rich. There is no national interests, only self serving corruption. That's the first thing that needs fixed.

[@xtradi]

​@@ryerye9019 Just like any other country, any differences?

[@AzzrudinJamil]

So you're saying that the world need to pay indonesia for oxygen?

[@NicO-cm2xo]

Biomass must be used for organic bio fertilizer for farm soil regeneration crop food security - not for mix in coal for energy. This a good example for the world on what not to do in the name of climate sustainability bionergy projects

[@marcopolo9324]

Iya ini jg gw baru tau mereka malah make padi sama serabut gitu anjirrr sayang banget. Kalo diolah bener bisa punya pupuk murah seindonesia. Goblok asli bukannya maju malah mundur

[@kudajingkrak4919]

Why not both..?? if Biomass mix in coal is works, then it reduces the use of coal for electricty significantly.

[@albertsinaga3333]

Shame of you all In the past, your country use coal too for industrialization And now you tell us about green energy What a funny thing about that

[@ilhamaar1802]

Setuju 👍👍 Andaikan dicampur sedikit batubara pun tak jadi masalah untuk pertanian, justru menambah nilai unsur kimiawi organik. Dicampur batubara untuk menambah kalori saat pembakaran.

[@ilhamaar1802]

​@@albertsinaga3333 Tenang lae, komen ini bukan untuk menghukum kita...

[@VINOcreative9]

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[@Stop_rasisme]

Benar sekali bro...Saya setuju dengan komentar anda.

[@qomaruddin4048]

Benar sekali.seprti singapura,malaysia,Australia tidak menginginkan indonesia maju 2:59 3:01

[@qomaruddin4048]

Benar sekali.seprti singapura,malaysia,Australia tidak menginginkan indonesia maju

[@BerbagiKerjaan-vm9dv]

Yup sangat setuju 😂 dan aktivis" adalah kaki tangan mereka 😂😂😂😂😂

[@McLayHall02]

Sebenarnya pemimpin2 negara kamu yg tidak mau negara mu maju agar rakyatnya mudah di eksploitasi utk kepentingan pejabat2 dan orligaki2 sokongan pemerintah Rakyat dibiarkan berpendidikan rendah, kesehatan rakyat diabaikan, korupsi bermarajalela hingga negara Indonesia dilabel negara yg rakyatnya terrendah IQnya di Asia Tenggara

[@Trueye-sl2mr]

Biomass is a good renewal resource for Indonesia due to its tropical climate. Kudos to Indonesia

[@imtheeastgermanguy5431]

No it's not

[@muhammadsabriyunus3627]

Just keep forward Indonesia, this is the way another country can't do. Just let the time prove it, I'm sure in 2060 we will be the initiator of the sustainable energy

[@muhammadsabriyunus3627]

I mean this concept about Biomass is absolutely excellent, as an Indonesian our task is not to avoid it, but how to make Improvements to become the leader of Bioenergy in the future.

[@imoprince1]

Yang di spot video ini mengenai bio fuel saja ya guys, sebenarnya alternatif "energi terbarukan" itu banyak bisa dari cahaya matahari, angin, arus laut, panas bumi dll. Kalau aku lebih setuju indonesia memajukan teknologi solar cell aja, dibikin terjangkau dan mudah didapat saprepartnya. Jadi daerah paling terpencil gak kesusahan mencari sumber energi listrik. Karena kedepan kendaraan listrik makin masiv pengunaanya. Ini salah satu solusi dari banyak solusi yang bisa diambil. Karena indonesia luas jadi banyak banget solusi berbeda yang paling unggul untuk setiap daerahnya 🤔

[@sarcasmo57]

Please don't cut down the forest. Talk to Australia, get them to send some solar power up like Singapore might do. Good luck with your endeavors Indonesia.

[@DeihanDzilky]

44:14 *_Puji Tuhan Insha Allah, semoga cita-cita Anaknya tercapai ya Bu, Aamiin!!!_* 😇😇😇

[@DeihanDzilky]

*_Aamiin..._*

[@ramd_]

thanks to CNA bringing this such so many POV about biomass in Indonesia, many things we learn from this video, so many perspectives appear, so many challenges face in energy transition, hopefully, every energy policy will far away from corruption so it can be more impactful to the community itself not the people doing the "business" here.

[@ariefkurniawan1793]

Orang bayaran Pengusaha Batu Bara ini, Wood pellet yg saat ini diproduksi oleh semua pabrik wood pellet di Indonesia itu berasal dari Limbah Kayu. Limbah kayu olahan industri kayu yg dulu menjadi masalah dan menjadi problem sekarang bisa dimanfaatkan menjadi sumber energi biomassa.

[@Chicky976]

Kayyaknya iya Masa ga bisa lihat berapa banyak pohon sawit yang harus ditebang untuk ditanam lagi setiap tahunnya Singapore emang pusatnya cukong²

[@eddyr1041]

Juga untuk urus sampah organik

[@bmanpura]

Kayaknya nggak, yield-nya kekecilan dibandingkan batu bara.. Kalau mereka bayar, mungkin demi melindungi hitungan karbon: Reduksi emisi karbon jadi pembangkit listrik uap yg pake batu bara kelihatan di kertas lebih hijau di laporan.

[@thegrandlord2914]

Perkebunan sawit tiap bulannya memproduksi puluhan ton sampah organik dari dahan tua yang dipotong tiap kali melakukan pemanenan. Biasanya dahan tua ini cuma ditumpuk didalam kebun dan dibiarkan membusuk. Melepaskan banyak gas metana Kenapa gak dipakai aja utk jadi bahan bakar pembangkit listrik Satu hektar kebun sawit bisa memproduksi 2 ton dahan mati. Indonesia punya 14juta hektar kebun sawit. Potensi sampah organik dari dahan pohon ada 28 juta ton. Belum dari sampah tandan sawit yg selesai diproses

[@MANADOSTREET]

​@@thegrandlord2914kayak pernah aja kau main ke tempat sawit. Kau kira pabrik2 minyak sawit itu pembakarannya pakai apa

[@yeremiaarie902]

9:40. It is impossible to use wood or anything else more valuable than coal to replace coal. The reason why Indonesia and other countries still use coal energy is because of the cost. The cost of using coal for energy is the cheapest, even when compared to water or solar energy. The truth is they use waste wood or waste from anything else that contains carbon. This way, the cost is cheaper and the supply is renewable.

[@rubidot]

Part of the reason coal is hard to replace is that the price is government regulated 15:23, whereas prices of other fuels are not. Coal is cheaper because the price is artificially reduced, while other fuels have to compete at market rates.

[@andipejalan3382]

I work in big industry in Indonesia, we substitute 10 % of coal by rice husk. Its my daily job. If the source available we can increase until 30 % with current technology. Now adays we are looking another source such as waste ( RDF or industrial waste). Nothing impossible !

[@rsmith02]

@@andipejalan3382 Is it possible for all the power plants to do that our just some? Most of these alternatives just don't scale.

[@prerojulisation6838]

Dari satu kasus ini saja sudah dapat memberi kesimpulan, bahwa manusia adalah tempatnya kesalahan, karena sebaik apapun keputusan yang diambil, disisi lain tetap ada pihak yang benar-benar dirugikan.

[@eddyr1041]

For air con should be using cheap solar panels... On the hottest daysntine, it producedbthe most power

[@brianchan9049]

Spending $12 million on a 300 kW power plant is an exorbitantly high cost. For that amount, you could easily invest in a solar-plus-battery system, which costs about 18 cents per kWh or approximately Rp. 3000 at the current rate. Solar systems are generally easier to maintain than biomass power plants. However, considering the diesel power plant is already operational, it might not make sense to fix something that isn't broken. Instead of focusing on reducing the carbon footprint in these remote areas, targeting a 1% reduction in larger cities would have a significantly greater impact (1000x). Remote villages face more pressing issues, such as poverty. Encouraging NGOs or the government to donate gravity lights can provide continuous lighting for studying, which can gradually transform lives through education.

[@zoomfin]

I can build a 5MW biomass power plant with that money! HAHAHA

[@hanflax4679]

The problem is that the media always portrays poor people as a source of news. They only clash interests to make news, even though the two problems require different solutions

[@Rasiman1983]

terimakasih

[@ongkynofrada9903]

Biomass is one of the best solutions for co-firing steam power plants in reducing carbon emissions, we will also add plastic waste to the biomass composition

[@ecoideazventures6417]

Unless the global market creates a value for preserving evergreen forests, this kind of exploitation will continue in developing countries. Those govts care more about their short term benefits!

[@davidhunt3881]

yup biomass needs to go to the soil. It can be net negative c02 because it can be sequestered itself, but also encourage more total carbon storage in the soil, while feeding crops and pasture for animals.

[@MrTyJacks]

indonesia at least in east Kalimantan where i live, the goverment already take a lot of land for something like "wood farm" obviously that "a lot" not like taking 30% of the land for it. for my estimation it would be around 13% of Kalimantan land this including Nusantara capital city which those city built in the old "wood farm" then they move the "wood farm" somewhere else. if you're people from Samarinda, Balikpapan and Tenggarong, you can see the "wood farm" when you take road from Tenggarong to Kotabangun and they're already doing this for a long time. so i assume this biomass energy from trees is taken from those "wood farm" which i don't mind because as far as i know, they're not taking more of the land when they already have those "wood farm"

[@dlewis8405]

Maybe in the future Indonesia could rely on mostly solar with the biomass used for baseload energy. Obviously phasing out coal should be an objective.

[@harumwidodo2326]

Tidak se sederhana apa yg di kemas di video ini, ada banyak cara untuk energi green. Dan Re-planting sawit saja sudah bisa menjawab sebagian co-firing. Dan masih lahan tidur yg tanpa harus babat hutan lagi. Pekarangan warga di Jawa dan bbrp di luar jawa itu Jutaan hektar yg yg tidur pulas

[@kto1376]

Pake speaking english

[@aryaman05]

Solar thermal + pressurized hot water storage + heat pump + biomass/diesel backup would have been a far better setup.

[@Underbluewave]

Why can't our government choose to invest in choco briket?? i heard that choco briket is sustainable and cheap source too or do they have different standard for IM, ash, and CV per briket/brittle????

[@marcopolo9324]

😂 karbon lagi dong astaga.

[@abcddef2112]

Rather than waste energy with making bricket, the powerplant already use biomass in dust form mixed with coal as seen in the video.

[@MANADOSTREET]

Why don't you do it if it feaseable...government just regulator they cant do business

[@denny.dagger]

I wonder where these kind of information comes from. Choco bricket is more expensive than biomass. Do you know the prices ?

[@abcddef2112]

@@denny.dagger Because biomass is much simpler processing as seen in the video. The source are the same biomass waste, why waste more energy turning them into choco bricket (which involved burning in low O2 environment), if you end up going to burn it anyway in a biomass plant. More processing adds complexity, bottom line more expensive.

[@ricosubekti1450]

Negara kepulauan dan tropis seperti kita ya harus manfaatkan panel surya atau gelombang air laut. Energi kinetik dari laut bergantung dengan pasang surut, pergerakan bulan. Mustahil ada yang bisa menghentikan perputaran bulan.

[@eddyr1041]

Yeah , harus produktif dengan gmhal hal gini ,, bukan ribut 2 agama politik

[@bmanpura]

Jadilah perubahan yang anda inginkan.

[@abcddef2112]

Biomass, Geothermal, Solar, Nuclear, Waves (still not mature yet) are good source for Indonesia.

[@thegrandlord2914]

Panel surya gak terlalu cocok untuk indonesia. Langit indonesia sangat berawan dan sering mendung

[@ricosubekti1450]

@@thegrandlord2914 panel Surya bisa ditaruh pesisir yang panas. Lagian di bandingkan negara lain yang ada musim dingin, Indonesia adalah berkah

[@urbanstrencan]

Biomass is great energy source

[@albertchristianto4716]

One questions to indonesian Goverment, What is the output of burning the biomass? I believe it is CO2, isn't it??

[@muhammadferdiansaputra9761]

It is, and it is actually mentioned it in this video. Ironic, isn't it?

[@jtch-gg1qh]

Go indonesia, we can also provide our own need.. if western need it, they cant buy it for cheap price anymore..

[@muhammadhanif4113]

Why not solar energy? Cs we can't make the panel ourself yet,same with wind turbin. Thats make the cost high and the profit only go to the foreigner.

[@eddyr1041]

China solar panel is a game changer... cheap

[@thegrandlord2914]

Cloudy sky hold back solar energy

[@giraffestreet]

Because this is a video specifically about bio mass. PLN also ventures on solar power plants, the largest one is in Cirata. And more are built all around other Indonesian islands including IKN

[@s40961]

Use biomass energy must equal source of biomass plantation

[@agnostikisbetter1893]

Don’t worry Singapore still imports electricity from Indonesia

[@sayfolman7752]

In Yours Dream Both Singapore And Indonesia Import Electric From Malaysia

[@lumkaze2000]

Energy activists women only knows how to complain but as usual, provides no solution. Bio mass is a good solution as long as they regrow the forest and use as much waste as possible

[@nulnoh219]

Right. For palm, only the Palm fruit is usable currently. If the rest of the plant can be converted into energy, then more palm is planted to recapture the carbon, it could be nett zero.

[@cameronf3343]

What’s even better than wood is coffee. Coffee ground waste has similar combustion properties to Irish peat. And Indonesia is an absolute coffee powerhouse both domestically and globally.

[@thegrandlord2914]

@@lumkaze2000 indonesian paddy grain shell can also be used. I used to live near paddy grinder factory, and the shell is wasted, and can be usable if burned since the ash is usefull for washing dishes. It's make the soap more effective

[@andipejalan3382]

I work in big industry which is used biomass as alternative fuel. Mostly it comes from the rice husk. Previously RH just burnt by rice farmer after crop season, but now it becomes expensive commodity and very difficult to get. With biomass we can reduce the use of fossil fuel more than 10 % and it promising to reduce until 50 % if the source are available.

[@rsmith02]

Wind, solar, geothermal and batteries are better solutions. You can't regrow a rainforest with an energy plantation- it's not the same thing. Indonesia's sending its waste from palm oil out of the country to Japan for energy so it will need to also use trees if it continues down this path.

[@MrNguyenm3]

This has corruption written all over it

[@Underbluewave]

it is ..

[@Luke-hm9vh]

This is lobbying

[@Pakun-q1v]

Becoz Indonesia is not comunist country

[@terusanzues6571]

The problem is why sacrifice forest while there are tons of unused agricultural waste.

[@kieferjooksalt1142]

That's wood waste.....

[@abcddef2112]

Thats why they are utilising waste.

[@MANADOSTREET]

Link and match problem...same with household trash....

[@RamsookSoodeen]

Why not sola ? One 410 watts panel 2 batteries one charge regulator

[@tonychen76]

@@RamsookSoodeen Nobody in Indonesia considers that 410 watt panel plus two batteries plus charge regulator sufficient for their home . They'll take it if it's for their farming camp (many farmers have temporary structures on their farm so they can stay at night when they need to) or for their fishing boats (for fishermen) but on average the father wants to be able to use power tools for fixing/building stuff, the mother wants to be able to run a rice cooker and washing machine, and the kids want a TV to watch their favourite shows (though these days smartphones are replacing TVs as entertainment media).

[@thegrandlord2914]

Indonesia's sky is often cloudy since indonesia in the middle of 2 ocean. So solar panle is not efficient here for industrial scale. For personal use, such as for a single house, solar panle can be used

[@ilvannurrochman1197]

Built mass of solar panels is not good for climate and making this planet more hot and hot..

[@taxol2]

2060 carbon neutral? 😂 almost everything in this country got delayed or “telat”

[@MANADOSTREET]

It very feasible...because European union and USA vow to do it in 2035. And as you know all the electronic appliances and vehicles are imported or produce from foreign Investment so indonesia will be carbon neutral due to loss of sparepart

[@taxol2]

@@MANADOSTREET electronic appliances and vehicles will not make net carbon. We still have factories and 60% of power plants still coal. To make cleaner energy will make the cost higher and I don’t think Indonesians ready for that price increase. Also, don’t forget some carbon rralease is from agriculture (livestock, rice cultivation, and biomass burning), are you Indonesians ready to achieve less carbon in the expense of higher energy and food cost? Answer: definately less resistence and protest in a good economy, but in a bad one…good luck

[@MANADOSTREET]

​@@taxol2do you think Indonesian power plants are installed using local technology and sparepart.....they will fall apart if there is no spare part to replace their component when it exhausted same like floopy disk or film roll camera

[@taxol2]

@@MANADOSTREET usually a power plant last longer than flippy disks. And what kind of argument is that? Of course parts beeds replacement. But I fail to understand your way of thinking after this. Do you: 1. Just because prts replacements the power plants will be in service longer, which actually dill delay even longer the transition to green energy. 2. Or because of parts you think that the goverment will replace new environmentally friendly plants because of some parts need replacing? Currently the enerrgy is 60% coal. And coal is cheap energy. The goverment will not massively built new green energy power plants, nor have the resources to do that 😂. The fact is that New eco friendly plants will be built usually because the requirement from the lender /investor to built only “green energy”.

[@07bintangdiandraputra48]

still better than do nothing

[@kangsaiful5663]

Singapura adalah sekutunya barat

[@paktani4006]

ANTEK BARAT

[@blackkittyyt]

Singapork has this thing where they always have to put Indonesia down. Their latest target is Indonesia's palm oil industry. It's important to remember that Singapork also has a stake in Indonesia's palm oil sector. Furthermore, they're the ones responsible for deforestation and forest fires in Indonesia. It's hypocritical for Singapork to blame Indonesia for environmental issues when they're also contributing to the problem. No wonder no one likes Singapork because they're always badmouthing their neighbors

[@echumico1503]

It's true that they Singapura very embarrassing

[@blackkittyyt]

@@echumico1503 Singapork's CNA media is always trying to make Indonesia look bad. A small country thinking it can compete with a big country. It's obvious Singapork is just a puppet of the West and too scared to say anything bad about the USA

[@rab5193]

Solar + battery is so cheap now and even getting cheaper day by day, it will be a much easier solution to install that. A 3MW solar costs about 2.5 million and requires 12 acres of land. In Indonesia on an average it will produce 12 Mwh of electricity everyday. A Tesla megapack which is 4 mwh costs only 1 million now. So if you install 2 of them then you get 8 mwh of storage. For a total cost of 4.5 million or say 5 million, you get 12,000 units everyday which can be used anytime. If you get 10 Starlink terminal for the island, you can get high speed internet without any wires for the island. The solar panels will work for 30 years and batteries will work for more than 20 years with no running costs and negligible maintenance cost. If they have some e-bikes and few EVs, they can be totally independent of the world. They can still grow bamboo and sell them by making some useful products. This solution is carbon negative and people can make money instead of burning bamboos. Burning bamboos will still produce toxic fumes besides CO2, like CO, NoX and other chemicals. This is a far better solution

[@fajaradi1223]

I don't think solar panel will work efficiently here in Indonesia.

[@rab5193]

@@fajaradi1223 solar panels does work well in Indonesia and produce 4 kwh per day with 1kw solar panel. On a cloudy or mild rainy day, the production could drop by 10-25%. This is where battery comes in to play. They can store the electricity and provide when needed. AI can be used to follow weather patterns and demand by operating the battery efficiently.

[@PavilionHP-w1i]

so, How About Nuclear as Energy Source?

[@muhammadferdiansaputra9761]

Uranium is non renewable

[@davidhunt3881]

I increasingly see carbon not as the enemy. I think most of our altered temperature / climate is due to land use, and not necessarily carbon. The urban heat island effect is real, and turning green plant cover into tilled soils or parking lots interrupts the water cycle and changes weather patterns as well as increasing temperature. Net carbon in the atmosphere will actually make plants greener. When you have a greenhouse, optimal growing conditions are 1600 ppm, and a lot of serious greenhousers add c02 to their system. The idea that carbon will mean the end of humans is wrong. But if we turn all of our land into tilled, dead soil and parking lots we will have severely disrupted weather patterns. Land use is much more important than carbon.

[@rsmith02]

Land use change is a major reason why there is more carbon in the atmosphere. These systems are connected and the carbon cycle is the basis of life on earth.

[@arishem555]

build the solar panels plant in the country. educate and hire locals. produce cheap panels for the local market and forbid them to export. do the same for batteries to provide local storage if needed. if it is made by local people inside of Indonesia, - it will be affordable beyond anything. be smart people

[@sonybramantio769]

You don't know solar panels also have negative impact.

[@fajaradi1223]

Recycling waste from solar panels and batteries is such a pain in the a$s.

[@33mavboy]

if they allow it to regrow and leave enough forest there is no problem using wood but no doubt it will be exploited.

[@ReyNostalgia]

Harus mandiri

[@bdogundar]

It's STUPID I say, We got NO LAND for mass biomass production. It's stupid ambition

[@thegrandlord2914]

@@bdogundar bio waste in palm oil industry is many times bigger than the palm oil product it self. Here we only talking about palm oil industry. How about carpentey industry, farming industry and such? If the government give serious attention, we have biomass fuel more than enough. Even indonesia produce so many household trash that can be used to produce methane and other kind of fuel for powerplant.

[@razkywedhe3451]

Stupid fosil oil who create?

[@deqhiej.rasyid3321]

European think they are more smart than Indonesian to using natural resources, but actually they are not knowing anything...🤣

[@kaibrunnenG]

What's wrong with solar power for these village people/home on the island? Why was solar energy never mention in this documentary?

[@abcddef2112]

Who said they haven't been using solar?

[@kaibrunnenG]

@@abcddef2112 Show me in that video they even talk or mention anything Solar Panels/Power.

[@abcddef2112]

@@kaibrunnenG Ye thats the point, the video maker did not show that to make a narrative. Its called Pembangkit Listrik Tenaga Surya Matotonan, there is the location in google.

[@abcddef2112]

@@kaibrunnenG There is Pembangkit Listrik Surya (PLTS) Mantotonan in google maps, u can search it. No mention in the video. Surya in indonesia meant Sun, Solar meant diesel. Apparently also PLTBm Mantotonan stop using bamboo but use solar (diesel) instead.

[@abcddef2112]

@@kaibrunnenG U can search the location Pembangkit Listrik Tenaga Surya Mantotonan.

[@chrisb9319]

Feels like all those villagers really need are some solar lights.

[@tonychen76]

Solar lights are not enough. I am Indonesian and I live in a village. Everyone wants grid electricity. Solar lights are used, but only as a minor addition to grid electricity. In places with no grid electricity village residents will pool their money to buy a diesel generator and fuel and run it every night. If you give us solar lights we'll take it and use it, but that doesn't negate the demand for grid electricity.

[@chrisb9319]

@@tonychen76 then buy more solar. There is plenty of roof space available.

[@tonychen76]

@@chrisb9319 Here's the thing. The ones with money, the ones in big cities where solar panels are easily available, they have grid electricity. A few of them bought some. But plenty are satisfied with grid electricity. The ones in remote villages, the poor farmers and fishermen, they don't have money to buy solar panels. And remember that we don't need just solar panels. We need the batteries, the controllers, the inverters, and so on. Short version is: they can't afford it. So they fall back to grid electricity. Our government really tries hard to provide grid electricity to everyone.

[@thegrandlord2914]

​@@chrisb9319how about you look at images of everyday indonesian sky? Our sky often cloudy now. Few years ago when dry season is consistent, we got half year clear sky. Now the sky mostly cloudy

[@chrisb9319]

@@tonychen76 They don't have to afford it. There are micro-grid solutions out there. Look at the youtube channel "Africa GreenTec" for example. They deploy shipping containers full of batteries and solar panels to villages that don't even have any grid to begin with. And then they sell their solar electricity to the locals at a lower price than they would have to pay for diesel. This could be done on every island in Indonesia too. And I bet that many islands could supplement this with small hydro power.

[@bmanpura]

This is just an exploration iirc. We invest more into solar then biomass, because years of attempts and experiments into biomass fuel never really yielded a profitable plan. At least not in the last 10 years.

[@abcddef2112]

If u r talking about Indonesia, one of the biggest potential for renewable source is actually geothermal, and Indonesia is already second highest in global geothermal production.

[@h28628]

tropical country with enough sun light, isn't that solar penal is the best option ??

[@joMan1060]

We do that too.. Indonesia have 280 million people need enegry... so thats not enough.

[@TubersAndPotatoes]

Palm flour? Like sago?

[@fajaradi1223]

Weird translation innit?

[@SphereFps]

I'm confused, does energy plantation not produce these "carbon sinks" if so why criticize it? i understand from a biodiversity standpoint it would be inferior than rainforests but this documentary talks an awful lot of carbon neutrality and not show data for the proposed solution by the indonesian energy plantation. Mind you i agree that renewable energy (solar, wind, tidal) is way better, but if this can be a stopgap for developing countries (renewables are super expensive upfront) as long as they are commited to switching to renewables in the future, why not?

[@rupam1011]

Where is Sun..??🤔

[@jonpaul3868]

It has resistance from Singapore's oil refinery 😂 CNA do your work😂

[@MrRoyal1177]

Part of me is actually jealous of their simple lifestyle. No internet and no social media.😅

[@jonwick7635]

well, you could try living in the village like that for 1 month. Then consider your option

[@kenhickford6581]

Basically, if we are honest, there are too many humans on the planet!...But no one will admit!

[@xtradi]

Relax Western and its ally country are in deficit growth. They will be extinct in a few decades with the current rate of natal vs. mortality rate

[@marvinsantos2977]

but isnt biomass also will emit CO2

[@sycen]

Fossil fuel is bad. And then a country use an alternative fuel source. Now that country is bad 🤔

[@gilberttello08]

👍👍

[@limansunnygemilangchannel]

Ini orang ngambil dari sisi buruknya aja setiap kebijakan ada plus , minus pasti setiap yang amibil kebijakan sudah pikir kedepannya dan mengelola semua yang dia buat tidak mungkin di olah . Sekelas China jadi negara maju pasti begini dulunya inilah tantangan negara berkembang. Pasti negara luar sok ikut campur beritakan buruklah ada kepentingan lain berita ini contoh misalnya: ini negara ini kita beritakan maju atau mandek nanti kalau sudah maju deh baru

[@Paijo99999]

Tidak dengan cara menebang pohon untuk dimatikan , melainkan memangkas sebagian dari dahan 😂 , anda terlalu provokatif. Bisakah anda tidak bersikap munafik ? kami bisa membacanya dari anda 😂 . Sedangkan hutan saja kalian tidak punya , laut kalian timbun dengan gedung tinggi.

[@abcddef2112]

Food?? that girl want to eat that raw aren pulp.

[@fajaradi1223]

Who knows? Maybe we can process it further into noodles, biscuits, or anything edible.

[@abcddef2112]

@@fajaradi1223 All of the other parts are already used, sap is gula aren or alcohol drinks (cap tikus/tuak/sopi/sagero), fruit is kolang-kaling, fibres are for ijuk, leaves are for weaving, the starch already used to make noodles, biscuits. The one that are used to be firewood are the trunk/barks and maybe fruit stalks. Do you know actually know the plant...?

[@wakyIIsr]

Resistance by who? Westerners and their puppets? Who takes western hypocrites seriously? What a joker 😂

[@freshpoint8354]

I wonder how does she can lives in Indonesia consuming indonesian food and using electricity that generate with coal ? Who is funding her act againts the needs of electricity to indonesian people ? We need electricity to become INDONESIA MAJU.. otherwise she was funding to make people of Indonesia keep less educated people

[@Orangbiasa_45]

Tidak akan Indonesia banyak korupsi

[@blackeagle9192]

Manusia harus optimis. Halangan untuk dihadapi, bukan dihindari

[@joMan1060]

Ya orang kek lu bikin negara mundur... tolol

[@metalextras]

A Private company initiative and the power is not enough for their own use, let alone selling it to public. Nothing cheaper and feasible on those region than geothermal powerplant...

[@lakeswara8680]

Kenapa ya CNA kalau ngeliput Indonesia pakai filter kelam gitu ya wkwkwk?

[@francescopaci9435]

buuuut .... of wind turbine you never heard?

[@yulusleonard985]

Indonesia wind power sucks because its tropical so the wind change direction every 6 months.

[@francescopaci9435]

@@yulusleonard985 wind turbine rotor turn in any direction

[@JackRoopers]

we're using much better than wind turbines: hydropower, solar plant, and geothermal.

[@yulusleonard985]

@@francescopaci9435 Then explain why all wind turbine exist today only facing one direction. If you are talking pivoting wind turbine for home use then its still useless since its output are low while expensive.

[@yulusleonard985]

@@JackRoopers Each have their own problems. Hydropower > sedimentation and co2. Solar plant > rainy season (the best place for solar plant are desert) Geothermal > need to dig deep. Impractical. Out of the options only solar power have good potential.

[@josemhossain8221]

🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩❤️❤️❤️

[@imtheeastgermanguy5431]

What a utter stupid idea 🤣🤣👎👎 just use wind, solar or solar thermal power. Feed the forest with the biomass

[@abcddef2112]

@@imtheeastgermanguy5431 Not really all those you mention have limitations even more so not suited for Indonesia. How stupid are you to suggest wind in Indonesia? Solar is pretty good but have limitation which is that duck curve. Geothermal is Indonesia's forte and interestingly not mentioned.

[@imtheeastgermanguy5431]

@@abcddef2112 why is wind stupid? What is the "duck curve"? I didn't say anything about geothermal. I said solar thermal power!

[@abcddef2112]

@@imtheeastgermanguy5431 Yes you didn't mention geothermal, when in fact Indonesia is the second biggest producer of it, and has the highest potential in the world. Wind is stupid because Indonesia is in the equator, almost no wind potential. I didn't mention specifically about solar thermal power because its like other solar power relying on the sun. Both will be subject to the duck curve, if you know anything about solar power you will know about duck curve, study more.

[@imtheeastgermanguy5431]

@@abcddef2112 I never heard about a duck curve. Maybe it's your own word for the same thing. I know that solar panels in hot areas are less efficient and obviously in the night you can create electricity.

[@abcddef2112]

@@imtheeastgermanguy5431 No the duck curve was coined in 2012 by CAISO. Are you even serious? Semiconductor (what solar panel is if you don't know) works less efficient in hot areas. And obviously in the night you can't create electricity with solar panel. Which is why the duck curve is formed.

[@SamsonOhsem]

With responsible development, bioenergy can significantly contribute to a sustainable energy future.

[@ataflobamora6209]

Singapura negara nato dikawasan asean,yg bikin negara muslim berantakan.mereka senang kalau indonesia kacau

[@fajaradi1223]

Indonesia bukan negara muslim, Singapura bukan anggota NATO. Video ini murni liputan jurnalistik, bukan propaganda dari pemerintah Singapura. Walaupun ada muatan politik di dalamnya. Harap maklum, nyaris tidak ada hal menarik untuk diberitakan di Singapura. Makanya mereka membuat liputan tentang negara - negara tetangga.

[@sobariustad8352]

Yahudi nya asean

[@Underbluewave]

They can make bioEthanol from sugarcane or other plantation.. like why are we going back with "bakar kayu" method??😅

[@marcopolo9324]

Bio ethanol sifatnya seperti minyak bro, balik ke generator lg masa? Buang2 tahap pemrosesan. Udh paling bagus solar sama panas bumi.

[@hitthedeck4115]

It's a highly inefficient process of converting the sun's energy (through photosynthesis) to electricity. The extracted energy/kg of sugarcane is very small with this method, also means that you need a lot of land. The less step you can do to convert something to electricity, the better it is. That's why burning coal is still the cheapest way to get power since you simply pick up the fuel from the ground and burn it.

[@marcopolo9324]

@@hitthedeck4115 it's cheap but didn't align with the green propaganda those leader said. It's inefficient through solar photo but it's enough for house uses. It's just the law keep preventing ppl to install them not only didn't gives support also restricted them. Some even get lawsuit without proper announcement. Why subsidy electric vehicle if Isn't the basic energy supply ready yet? The bill said going to raise etc they said there's surplus blablabla.

[@kudajingkrak4919]

@@marcopolo9324 Panas bumi itu mahal, perawatannya mahal, alat2nya jg mahal. otomatis listriknya jg mahal.. Paling bagus itu hydropower.

[@abcddef2112]

Bioethanol is actually less efficient, u have to do further processing (ie put more energy in). You lose some energy content in changing the form, you don't magically get higher energy.

[@WilyIka]

Western Propaganda...

[@heruhg8148]

slow move renewable enegry because big owner of coal is untouchable people. same as oil. if indonesia move to nature enegry ghost buisness struggle to sell the oil dan coal. rule ghost is "dont touch my buisness or u gone" look at ev car just few charging station since 2022. who will buy ev car if no/far charging station goverment did not push nature power plant because ghost dont get benefit on their buisness

[@joMan1060]

Resistance from who ??? 😂😂 Never see any resistance for this... Only CNA somehow make this documentary our of nowhere.😂

[@YayahYayah-yw9hz]

Nuclir bro..coba pake nuklir

[@hikashia.halfiah3582]

itu jangka medium long term. 30+ thn.

[@yulusleonard985]

Bisa lolos DPR?

[@marcopolo9324]

Sdm belom siap gk ush ngide nuklir2 meledak nangispun gk bisalu nonton dulu film2 tentang power nuklir kaya Chernobyl

[@yulusleonard985]

@@marcopolo9324 Ngomongin Chernobyl > Orang nga tau apa2.

[@JackRoopers]

Baru 6% yg lulus perguruan tinggi, udh minta teknologi nuklir njir

[@dearybayu4130]

19:22, your map is a mess

[@Banteng83]

Please report this as misinformation content

[@alphiandi210]

Hey cna news stop badmouthing us

[@blueyhis.zarsoff1147]

The more coal you burn the faster the trees will grow lol

[@imtheeastgermanguy5431]

No it won't. Even the rain forest has its limits and humans can't stand high temperatures

[@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc]

More climate eco garbage crap

[@lokesh303101]

BioEthanol is Better!

[@marcopolo9324]

Bio etanol pengganti minyak bro, bukan listrik

[@abcddef2112]

Better how? In changing form to create bioethanol, you lose some energy, while also needing to put more energy in processing. Bioethanol production even compete more with food directly....

[@imtheeastgermanguy5431]

It's not

[@VINOcreative9]

SEMUA ORANG TAU. ORANG LUAR NEGERI TERUTAMA NEGARA BARAT DAN SINGAPURA TIDAK MENGINGINKAN INDONESIA MAJU DAN BANGKIT. HANYA NEGARA BARAT YANG BOLEH MAJU DAN MERUSAK ALAM. SEDANGKAN INDONESIA UNTUK MAJU DI HALANG HALANGI DENGAN ALASAN MERUSAK LINGKUNGAN LAH, HAM LAH. DAN SETERUS NYA. KITA SEBAGAI RAKYAT INDONESIA HARUS BERANI DAN CERDAS MENYIKAPI NEGARA BARAT. SEDANGKAN DI DUNIA INI TAU DAN PAHAM BAHWA NEGARA PERUSAK DAN NEGARA ADUDOMBA ADALAH NEGARA BARAT EROPA DAN AMERIKA. DAN KACUNG NYA KAYA SINGAPURA DAN ASUTRALIA

[@VINOcreative9]

SEMUA ORANG TAU. ORANG LUAR NEGERI TERUTAMA NEGARA BARAT DAN SINGAPURA TIDAK MENGINGINKAN INDONESIA MAJU DAN BANGKIT. HANYA NEGARA BARAT YANG BOLEH MAJU DAN MERUSAK ALAM. SEDANGKAN INDONESIA UNTUK MAJU DI HALANG HALANGI DENGAN ALASAN MERUSAK LINGKUNGAN LAH, HAM LAH. DAN SETERUS NYA. KITA SEBAGAI RAKYAT INDONESIA HARUS BERANI DAN CERDAS MENYIKAPI NEGARA BARAT. SEDANGKAN DI DUNIA INI TAU DAN PAHAM BAHWA NEGARA PERUSAK DAN NEGARA ADUDOMBA ADALAH NEGARA BARAT EROPA DAN AMERIKA. DAN KACUNG NYA KAYA SINGAPURA DAN ASUTRALIA