How China Took Over Indonesia’s Nickel Industry To Fuel Its EVs

[@ornachia2489]

So you mad because only China interested to actually invest in Indonesia for it Nickels, while the US and Europe only want the raw materials not the Investment?

[@abcddef2112]

Indonesia invited everybody only Chinese come and invest lol....now Indonesia (and chinese companies) are reaping the benefit..then EU got mad. Suddenly their steel are less competitive than Indonesia. So they start a trade war with Indonesia, VOC mentality die hard. They want to keep Indonesia and other third world country exporting cheap raw material, and then sold higher value products back to them.

[@gsap7017]

​@@abcddef2112but remember, china invest just 5% back to indonesia government, tax holiday and another insentive for china, our country have nothing

[@abcddef2112]

@@gsap7017 Ah tempo followers probably why....but at least tempo even list how they get a number not randomly give a figure with no background.

[@ALIGwedew62]

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[@user-lb2wi2bj9r]

Sounds like a Chinese debt trap

[@Luvinist]

The West had the same chance to invest in Indonesia. They chose economic colonialism instead with WTO. Indonesia will not fall for that again.

[@abcddef2112]

Yeah they mentioned chinese often...sure but Korean also invest in Indonesia. LG and Hyundai invested, brazilian Vale also invested. VOC Kompeni mentality....

[@ファンp]

However, Indonesia is suffering from excessive reliance on China, as it is not included in tax incentives such as the IRA in the United States. Indonesia has recently been in talks with multiple investors, including Japan and South Korea, to reduce investment from China.

[@teukukalkausarfird4037]

But China, it's okay?

[@blak_ket]

​@@teukukalkausarfird4037If you want to talk about China, then also talk about the others too. Otherwise it is hypocritical, and people will hate you for it. I mean, don't you notice the growing popularity of de-dollarization?

[@ariefrachman7545]

​@@ファンp it's not reducing, from the very beginning Indonesia already open for investment to anyother country including Europe and USA.. Only China want to abide to Indonesia rules and built smelter.. The European just want the raw only, and protests it by bringing it to WTO. Japan and Korea already mining nickel in Indonesia before and they want to continue by abiding the laws to build the smelter..

[@nileshsingh4705]

From the beginning of the video I was wondering why US media suddenly became so concern abot Indonesian people. They made 17 min paid report to promote a US company by putting chinese company in bad light. No one does better propaganda than western media.😢

[@rnrxt-og1ix]

作为中国人我喜欢印尼人民，所以我有一些个人愚见发表。21世纪是信息的时代，我希望印尼政府出台相关信息的审查制度，以防止美国霸权网络媒体对印尼的信息战争，中国就是一个很好的例子。中国大陆因为防火墙的原因，能够团结并进快速发展，而香港台湾却深受其害，民主与专制并不是世界的根本，社会结构稳定才是强大的表现。中国人民的财产安全，生活质量，交通的便捷全依赖于此。中国有很多叛徒，但我可以负责任的说，几乎都是香港台湾的某些人，另外还有中国的罪犯，比如曾经西藏剥人皮的地主或者以改革开放政策的名义，骗政府人民财产的人等等，是的，中国14亿人，56个民族，国情是相对复杂的，有一部分罪犯也是正常的，这个世界没有完美。所以不要相信任何有关基于美国网络的中国人言论，你们应该自己探索中国并分析整个经过，在这个星球上，中国能轻易带动印尼的经济增长，不管是中国的全产业工业链的生产原料还是农副产品。

[@Indian_Rajput]

As Indian we should not talk against Western countries in case of China, Stick to our path We also despise China more than USA

[@Guidelines_]

Amerika belajar dari zionis bagaimana cara memanipulasi dan mencuci otak bangsa lain

[@Didin_Hafni.]

​@@rnrxt-og1ixsaya orang asli Indonesia, menghormati China yang mau ikut membangun Indonesia. Keturunan Tionghoa di Indonesia ikut membanggakan Indonesia saat ini, berkat kerja keras bersama. Saya harap Indonesia maju seperti China, meminimalisasi kemiskinan. Dimana-mana pasti ada pengkhianat, kita hanya harus lebih bijak agar tidak termakan propaganda. Adakalanya barat akan memfitnah Indonesia di China. Semoga tetap bersahabat.🇮🇩🇨🇳.

[@edrizon1913]

Kami juga membenci India from Indonesia ​@@Indian_Rajput

[@Bennix]

What a well paid propaganda by the west. I’m Indonesian and have met with so many local people that lives in the surrounding area of this nickel mining, smelter or factories and most of them are happy with the Chinese investment and the jobs they created.

[@ardi08]

Then what about these people that they said their well being became harder after the mining happened?

[@worlds3061]

​@@ardi08Paid ofc

[@worlds3061]

@Booz2020 Get a job brokie

[@worlds3061]

@Booz2020 I didn't talk to you, sok asik lu pemuja sapi. 😂

[@worlds3061]

@Booz2020 Attention seeking Indians are one of the funniest thing I have ever seen.

[@rhs_0938]

BLAMING CHINA for everything seems to be much easier than fixing their old, dated auto industry! 🤣

[@randymuwardani1599]

yeah lol, what stopping the west to do the same and build the refining company in indonesia?

[@abcddef2112]

@@randymuwardani1599kompeni mentality, similar like their ancestor VOC.

[@tommygravel5653]

@@randymuwardani1599 😅

[@teoengchin]

Why mainstream media never investigates if the crude oil drilled by Exxon, BP & Shell is ethically sourced?

[@DrizzyJones1]

"tHat iNdUsRtY iS DiRtY wHy cAnT wE" 🤡

[@SumatraTiger]

Bc this media sponsored by that kind of bussiness, you dare speak bad to them when you eat from oil giant?

[@eka.setyawan]

because it’s western company?

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

Indonesia has helped the USA to manipulate the global gold index, thanks to Freeport McMoran. So it is fair now Indonesia helps China. Indonesia is not my country.

[@packohub1145]

OIL IS JUST DRILLING..

[@gregorymalchuk272]

It's fascinating how land clearance in developing countries is called "deforestation" but land clearance for agriculture, commercial, and industrial projects in the West *isn't* viewed as deforestation and habitat destruction.

[@delai86]

they are streeing opinion, because unhappy with Indonesia developing situation

[@hehe-mq2bk]

true. westerners hate it when Developing nations use their land and resources in getting richer bc countries like the US don't want developing nations to become advanced and developed

[@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834]

because Indonesia isn't as compliant in terms of environmental impact analysis and there's little real consequences for companies that actually destroy these forests. how much AMDAL research was done for our new capital, compared to an average apartment in the west?

[@delai86]

These Western people keep pushing Indonesia to the corner, everytime we want to developing something or seeking some hope to our future. We must stand against these once and for all...

[@eddyr1041]

@@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834 don't repeat china mistakes... Is visible and lots in the news now...

[@deutschdois]

So sad watching this on CNBC The truth is Indonesia open for investment for every country, tbh Indonesia desperate for it (investment for together handling nickel). China so fast dip in to it, with Indonesia agreement & rules, but western want other ways. Now their crying cause China dominating Indonesia Nickle. . . 😮 Another example, Indonesia government come to the point looks like salesman (I'm seriously) even president & ministry meet Elon Musk begging for their Investment in Indonesia. But Elon Musk chose to not (strangely) And now their complaining China dominating Indonesia nickle 😮 & now they banging Indonesia, with classic environment propaganda. It's all about regional power. Cause world predict nickel is future, and it can bring Indonesia to be as strong as oil producer countries.

[@deutschdois]

In fact, Indonesia hopes for a lot of investment from Western companies for nickel processing in Indonesia. (to balance the dominance of Chinese investment) because Indonesia is not able to do it alone (for now). Unfortunately, the West wants the old way (their only way and rules) and even forgets that this is Asia, not Africa. Indonesia has been gripped by the West with the bad memories (Freeport gold mine, at Indonesia). Are they're think this Asian country will make the same mistake? Not Africa you can playing your same card again & again. The disrespectful level is insane.

[@1rjona]

They are targeting nickel because it is used for EVs which West are not dominant. Note, Indonesia is a oil producing country. Producing oil is ok

[@SyedAli-ij8nu]

@@1rjona Indonesia is NOT an oil producing country.

[@SyedAli-ij8nu]

I think the video is focused on Indonesia's lack of regulations and lack of protection of environment. It's not about China's investment. Softbank also pulled out as one of lead investors in development of the new Indonesian capital, because of Indonesian governmental interference.

[@deutschdois]

@@SyedAli-ij8nu Indonesia producing oil as well, but not equal to the consumption

[@landove1486]

Indonesia : I want you Guys to take part in building our nickel industry China : Okay I will invest huge $$$ to build processing plants. European Union : Nope!!! We don't wanna take part. You have to export your nickel ore in raw form. If you do not comply, we will bring this case to WTO. Indonesia : Whatever, EU .... I don't give a F. Okay China, I welcome you to join in. EU : "China took over Indo nickel industry" Indonesia : Hypocrisy runs so heavily in your blood, doesn't it? Not even a century has passed, and you already try to colonize me AGAIN?

[@EA_SET]

@Booz2020 dont come if you dont want dont come.. as simple as that. Also don't buy electronic stuff that source your battery from Indonesia.. were good without you..

[@banser_itu_anjink]

kekayaan alam di rampok cina dan pribumi di sekitar pertambangan ttp miskin alam nya di rusak

[@kuyaatnic9257]

colonizer clans habit can't be changed

[@EA_SET]

@Booz2020 why would i? Im laughing actually 🤣

[@ardi08]

​@Booz2020Where you came from beach

[@Jerry-ii2yp]

The west has pretty high moral standard to other countries but once it comes to their own, you know what is going to happen? Silence😅

[@sentramasbangunmakmurindo]

😂😂😂 not at all... Western likes minimum cost high return.

[@chngcheehwee5433]

😂😂😂their anti China channel again

[@twood2032]

Again, white man is telling colored people what to do. Basically we have no moral and only white man knows moral.

[@eman67rp]

Such coded language "China took over" total BS.

[@chngcheehwee5433]

@@eman67rp similar tactic as "debt trap "

[@bedhenis]

When western lose their market, they always looking the dark side their opponent. Same with palm oil black campaign causing deforestation, while they never mention their vegetable oil industries even worse than palm oil. When western have advantage from indonesia nickel ore, they keep silent. But when indonesia ban nickel ore, suddenly they talking environment. When western talking about clean nickel. Indonesia ask them to come to indonesia to invest and make clean nickel here. Please tell us how to make clean nickel. But what happen? No,,, they would not come. Indonesia never planning to make china dominant here in nickel smelter industries. The problem is western don't want come here. They, the western is looser who just keep yelling when they are loose their money in international competition. CNBC should mention this. Western nickel mining and processing is out of date a decade, compare to chinese. That is why they always looking the dark side. NO ONE OF MINING I THIS ENTIRE WORLD IS ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY, EVEN IN WESTERN COUNTRIES.

[@SifisoMoabj]

Yep, hopefully the people of Indonesia, and the government will not fall for the propaganda.

[@danielalexander249]

And what does it mean than? Should the western join the chinese approach and also start mining. I think we all should move in the opposite direction 😂 instead of start together a race to the bottom.

[@multatuli1]

​@@danielalexander249 all EV west or east using nickel right now, no hundred percent green technology yet.

[@TheBooban]

Western companies don’t want to come to Indonesia because your country is corrupt and is why Chinese can do it and pollute your country. Clean company cannot compete with your companies polluting your country and your politicians allow it.

[@Batucadax]

Says the person not living beside a nickel mine or refinery😂. If only we can interview those orang hutans thats living on the Sumatra rain forest... Oh wait they just went extinct😮

[@riyantrianggaputra4118]

Why youre whining about? Cry? Well both indonesia and china winning together😂😂

[@ardi08]

Tapi ini ada orang2 lokalnya protes loh, mrk dirugikan scr kualitas lingkungan, dan nggak menguntungkan mrk scr ekonomi.

[@riyantrianggaputra4118]

@@ardi08 just small amount, they just selfish, only cared about themselves and do not want to change their fate nor their living condition. Why should i care? The government already give them big amount of money to move and yet their miss the opportunity. Who needs to blame? Sorry to say kid, but i had my own obligations about this hilirisasi mining stuff, i'm invested in this and my money in there. I'm not pro-government but i'm pro of sensible things. About the environmental damage, the westerners just a bunch a denial people, they also do environmental damage more than we do since our independence. All things have advantages and disadvantages, they always making propaganda to hinder our progress. Indonesian people always be a prejudice. SMH 🤦‍♂

[@HendraGilbyanto]

​@@ardi08 nah memang harus di berikan perhatian lebih ke orng lokal, tp emang media nya lebih pro kebarat. Isu lingkungan selalu muncul saat mereka kalah saing, semua media, lsm, dan aktivis lingkungan barat kompak bersuara. Kemana mereka saat hal itu menguntungkan barat? Misal mibyak sawit ramai" mereka boikot pdhl mereka pakai sunflower oil dimana untuk menghasilkan kuantitas produksi yg sama membutuhkan 5x luas tanah dr sawit. Bayangkan kalau semua negara pakai sunflower oil, bs gundul semua tuh hutan

[@Joooo89]

​@ardi08 Iya, saya ga menyanggah bahwa ada kerusakan lingkungan, dan itu memang HARUS diperbaiki, bahkan kalau perlu didenda atau disanksi Tapi to be fair aja, tambang² milik barat jg bikin kerusakan toh? Cuma bedanya mereka udah beroperasi terlalu lama jadi warga lokalnya uda terbiasa

[@norodom2074]

I don’t think USA is worried about 3rd world countries.

[@hermanong9514]

CNBC, can you also make special report on Freeport who is extracting Indonesia Gold and copper for decade and what is the impact to West Papua people and environment.

[@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834]

probably hard to do when Indonesia tightly controls journalism in Papua, especially foreign ones.

[@arieyang]

Like NEVER 😂

[@Na-en3by]

cry more usa

[@ornachia2489]

​@Booz2020Nobody want you in Bali 😂😂

[@worlds3061]

​@Booz2020You're implying our economy is solely based on tourism alone 😂

[@worlds3061]

@Booz2020 What are you even trying to say?

[@eviexadhiepraseya9904]

​@Booz2020moron

[@ridhobaihaqi144]

50 cent army

[@RealGrandFail]

This is what should be done in Africa, Ban raw material exports. Processing should be done in Africa.

[@Omer1996E.C]

As an African who studied this matter, I disagree with what you said. We, Africans, shouldn't stop exporting raw materials for value addition, we should just trade them for the highest bidder to improve our education and already existing potentials, like agriculture. Without having educated workforce with the capital needed, how do you expect us to process anything in the first place? Plus, who said that the problem are corporations and foreigners? The classic boogeyman of the government to the ignorant people? Haven't you seen how other countries establish sovereign weath funds and develop well? The whole problem here is that the government is the one who get to decide how to use that money earned, so no real development happens. I really disagree with how the government imposes royalty payments on resource extractors in exchange for monopoly rights. I personally believe that the government should not take any royalties, and no extractor should have exclusive rights, everyone should be able to extract, compete and collaborate freely at least

[@NPAMike]

Yea then the coal mines that process these raw materials will dirty up africa. Africa doesn't have the money now the allies to do it to compete on the global market.

[@RealGrandFail]

@@Omer1996E.C What if the highest is a rip-off? They should export processed materials. Do you think raw materials is end for African mines? How, you ask? Like how everything is done, thinking forward and build for a great future. Too many people in Africa focus on immediate gratification and forget about the future. There's demand and we have the supply, that's just economics. Of course, there are many other factors but this is a start.

[@meeveryday123]

Indonesia has a bad domestic policy, they make gambling illegal. Every year Indonesians gamble in Singapore, Malaysia, Cambodia, spending money equivalent to India's military budget. Indonesians have ambition but their economic knowledge is very poor... they won't be a big country.

[@meeveryday123]

I think African people are smarter than Indonesian people. Today Indonesia can survive because it really has a lot of natural resources..

[@alveethree]

Sulawesi and eastern part of Indonesia now is one of the highest GDP increased in the region. CNBC is unfairly interviewing people who only don't want to change their life to a better one... In fact, the government had encouraged Tesla to come earlier before the Chinese, look what happened now to see Chinese EV surpasses Tesla dominance in the world market. First Come First Serve dude..😂

[@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834]

Laughs in Java 57% national GDP , even in GDP increase sulawesi still loses to papua

[@yolopurple7413]

@@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834 Komen negatif mulu lo dimana2. Pengangguran lo? Kata2 dari VOC ini cocok buat lo “Dog and inlander can’t enter”. Dasar mental inlander

[@noefvon]

@@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834 java 150 million people so its make sense, but atleast east indonesia is catching up

[@agravt]

US and EU media talking about environment is so funny 🤣

[@ardi08]

But they are leading on green energies, no?

[@Wahyudi-cz4xg]

​@@ardi08not in the EV cars at least

[@yoyonrbn3986]

absolutely right ! CNBC never talk about Freeport that destroy papua for years.

[@silidfc28]

@@yoyonrbn3986 Yes true brother is proganda media barat/eua and usa..!!

[@drunkqi8019]

@@ardi08not in solar power or hydropower field

[@kudajingkrak4919]

Back then the Indonesian Government invited the world to invest in the smelting/refining industry in Indonesia. But only China and S Korean companies responded... Today the west are on the bitter side. wkwkwk.... Not only Nickel, Indonesia also big on Manganese, Cobalt, Copper, and Tin... and coal.

[@banser_itu_anjink]

kekayaan alam di rampok cina dan pribumi di sekitar pertambangan ttp miskin alam nya di rusak

[@mesherepnamesherep8146]

Aren’t you concerned about the environmenta in fact of this ? look how the family is struggling over the problems of mining.

[@aswiran]

We move on, simply as that most people do know mining is detrimental to environment but so what? It can give more value to more people. That's the prices for development. If there people or country who scream environmental problem then they can come to Indonesia, sit together with government, give COMPREHENSIVE REAL SOLUTION, help with funds, technology and human resources if possible. Talk is cheap. This kind of problem is similar to most developing country must face on many sector not limited toward mining.

[@kazegarasu4704]

Wait, correct me if I was wrong. I thought Japan responded as well? They are the richest country in Asia back in the days right?

[@sabilza]

Nothing is preventing western companies to build sustsinable and environmentally friendly nickel processing plant in Indonesia. It's only China who's willing to invest

[@PranicEnergy]

Western countries like the US, canada and Australia has among the highest per capita carbon emission in the world. I don"t really understand why since they hardly produce anything.

[@MANADOSTREET]

Because they put carbon gauge everywhere in their country

[@Khyberization]

Because we buy more things and consume more energy per capita than developing nations. ACs, fridges, more cars per capita, more traveling on a daily bases, more vacations to different parts of the world, more meat consumption, and we are huge agricultural producers.

[@PranicEnergy]

@Khyberization , I live in a country with a per capita GDP higher than yours. But we trying hard to reduce carbon emissions. I eat more veg than meat, I minimise air conditioning usage and I try my best to recycle.

[@PranicEnergy]

@Khyberization , West spending itself into poverty. Govt debt is out of control.

[@Khyberization]

@PranicEnergy Above us are only oil producing nations, some islands that have to import a lot, and Australia and the US. Canada uses a lot of hydro. But we are a big oil producer, and so is the US. Meanwhile Indonesia is 118th on the per capita rankings. Per capita they spend 1/7th what Canada does. Spending isn't the issue, it is where we spend. China spends and they are doing great. It is probably a fundamental problem with democracies and long term planning.

[@tackaerep]

We have similar problem in Serbia, but our problem is western based company called Rio Tinto. Unfortunatly since they are westerners, we won't recieve media attention in our battle. Even German PM, came few days ago with german carmakers to pressure and sign deals with our government giving EU prefered conditions. They don't care that most of citizens are against it, since we are aware of how lithium is beeing dug, and we are aware of Rio Tinto's history. In heart of Europe we will get dirty mines that will polute our water and destroy our lands, locals are fighting against it, even 2 years ago when whole country protested governemnt decided to stop it, but changed it's mind after elections and after EU pushed a bit. EU doesn't care about regulations, health or greeen energy if it's not strictily in EU, that's why they don't mine lithium in their countries that way. I would like for CNBC to come to Serbia and make a small documentary about it, even tho it's against western company.

[@MultiYlin]

If Rio wants it, there is nothing to stop them from taking it.

[@Kambo_1st]

Cause Indonesia an islamic country, It's impossible for Elon Musk to give work to someone who wears the hijab.

[@muhammadhanif4113]

You are big nation with long history,don't back down. Keep voicing this neo capitalism and slavery.

[@laillosidgar]

Dude, Serbian is also a western by average asian standard.

[@jasondpa]

Rio Tinto majority owner is Aluminum Corporation of China🤣

[@andrebudiman4506]

Most comments are smart.. stick together indonesia

[@PangkalanMiliter50]

Belum terjamah aja sama SDM rendah yang selalu serba salah dimatanya, mereka masih di habitatnya yang selalu memenuhi kolom komentar di cnbc lokal. Belum lagi ditambah netizen dari negara M yang selalu nimbrung... Hasilnya buuuummm komentar yang asal nyablak 😂

[@bambangraharjo453]

Most comment is Indonesian who became china's puppet

[@gambarcoretan8680]

video propaganda ini bro.

[@rickymotovlog9355]

Mantap

[@Getwellsoon96]

​@@PangkalanMiliter50terima sja kritikan org luar .ngara di perintah jawir susah mau maju kerana rakyat nya bodo sukar terima fakta..bnyak korupsi pula

[@rhs_0938]

It's not Western media if they're not bias

[@ricosubekti1450]

bertahun-tahun kami menawarkan nikel kami ke EU. tapi EU hanya menganggap nya omong kosong, tapi sekarang china membuat lapangan pekerjaan untuk masyarakat kami, kalian komplain. EU bodoh.

[@Victorchaint]

Oh, please, the same thing goes to your american companies as well.

[@abcddef2112]

Forget about freeport are they

[@sl9wdive]

Right, since when does the West cares so much about environment 😂

[@zhepengfeng8279]

在发展和环保中一定要选择，那一定要选发展！美国和欧洲享受着最好的生活说这样的话，如果发展中国家选择环保的话，你来发钱吗？😂你们的消费才是造成发展中国家污染的根本原因。有不愿意无偿分享新的环保技术，留着原生态给你们旅游用吗？😅

[@Didin_Hafni.]

Barat ingin kita tetap berlumpur dan tidak membangun apapun 😂 Mereka ingin menjadi negara maju hanya bersama kelompoknya saja. Ayo eratkan persahabatan kita dan biarkan barat sibuk dengan berita bohongnya. 🇮🇩🇨🇳.

[@ArkenZio.W_]

This happened because western countries did not want to comply with the terms of Indonesian nickel cooperation😂 Most of the Indonesian resources is taken out of the country, and the profits for the country itself are smaller. This is detrimental to their country and only benefits other countries. This is why the Indonesian government made terms that investor who want nickel from Indonesia, create their companies there. This could open up job vacancies and advance Indonesia's economy and technology. Luckily, China is willing to comply with these terms and western countries only blame Indonesia for this Also, sorry for my english, im still learning

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

Indonesia has helped the USA to manipulate the global gold index, thanks to Freeport McMoran. So it is fair now Indonesia helps China. Indonesia is not my country.

[@Liboch]

Actually EU and the US refused to comply to the Indonesia's request and brought the case to WTO. But China, Korea and Japan complied and built factories in Indonesia.

[@TheFool-mg5fc]

Only balinese desire tourists. I wont blame the balinese either, they tend to be neutral on most topics anyways. ​@Booz2020

[@asw654]

Indonesians don't mind Tourism, but they aren't just targeting Americans. That's just something Americans dreamed up. Stop speaking up for Indonesians.

[@joyfrog123]

Don't bother tellling the reality bro, even though it's 2024, their mentality and way of thinking is still stuck in the 1800s colonial era. They shamelessly still exhibit these hypocritical attitudes towards us in 3rd world countries-it’s not even funny. These are the same folks who loudly opposed Indonesia’s raw nickel export ban and refused to invest in the Indonesian mining sector like China did, only to spout nonsense like, "What we don't need is cheap and dirty nickel." Seriously, if that’s the case, why didn’t you invest there to build your "superior, cleaner, ethical" (and most importantly) more profitable nickel mining sector instead of leaving it to China? Instead, they whine through propaganda videos about how detrimental Chinese investments supposedly are for ordinary Indonesians. It’s clear they’ve lost the initiative and just can’t compete with China anymore. 🙃

[@adrianzulpri1433]

They are literally crying 😭

[@madilauliaaa589]

👆Komentar jawir dari kamar kost yang ber AC di Jawa yang ngak pernah liat langsung dampak lingkungan di Indonesia timur, jawir² ini hanya peduli ego mereka dan ngak peduli sesama rakyat indonesia.

[@champan250]

Poor research, you are commingled between nickel mining and nickel processing. Nickel mining in Indonesia is not controlled by the Chinese, a big portion is still controlled by Indonesian tycoons, Vale, France's Eramet and an Australia-listed company. The Chinese dominance is in several industrial parks that Indonesia govt carved it out to the Chinese to process these ores.

[@eddyr1041]

Yup it shroud say processing I guess... nevertheless foreign company in indonesia policy can't hv majority shares

[@champan250]

@@eddyr1041 and also about the coal-fired "dirty" nickel. 70+% of thermal coal mined were exported to China, India, Korea, Japan and Taiwan. So this is the same carbon footprint otherwise will go to electricity generation in these countries

[@eddyr1041]

@@champan250 yeah... you can see that by indo powerbgeneration... coal based . It does contribute to air pollution that is quite bad especially their mega polis jakarta surrounding and java commonly... Indonesia is such a big coastal area, they should hv asked china to build solar and wave power instead

[@champan250]

@@eddyr1041 can't really build a lot of solar in Indonesia, the environmental group will complain about deforestation to make room for solar lol

[@banser_itu_anjink]

kekayaan alam di rampok cina dan pribumi di sekitar pertambangan ttp miskin alam nya di rusak

[@jimmynam4261]

Hummm, I can taste the bitterness in this documentary 😂

[@aghasa123]

should change the title to "how EU failed to convince Indonesia to sell raw materials and regrets it" 😂

[@madilauliaaa589]

👆Komentar jawir dari kamar kost yang ber AC di Jawa yang ngak pernah liat langsung dampak lingkungan di Indonesia timur, jawir² ini hanya peduli ego mereka dan ngak peduli sesama rakyat indonesia.

[@EA_SET]

@@madilauliaaa589 so what..?? Lu pikir dengan ekspor raw material terus2 an bisa bikin alam jadi baik Kah?? Gitu kah logikamu???

[@odeckariawan]

this report, sponsored by Western colonial corporations cooks with a good amount of double standard, a legal common acceptable practice in the West.

[@Boglimgolteb]

Media really wants Indonesia to give up refining😂

[@saijujiwara]

westerners do it keep it silence, cant compete? national security !

[@madilauliaaa589]

👆Komentar jawir dari kamar kost yang ber AC di Jawa yang ngak pernah liat langsung dampak lingkungan di Indonesia timur, jawir² ini hanya peduli ego mereka dan ngak peduli sesama rakyat indonesia.

[@noefvon]

@@madilauliaaa589 lu kira di jawa juga gk rusak? lu teriak2 indonesia timur harus sejahtera dll tapi giliran dibangun protes lagi wkwkwk

[@madilauliaaa589]

@@noefvon you don't get my point, indonesia timur dibangun sampe banjir bandang di Halmahera yang tinggi banjirnya sampe ke atap rumah karena di hulu ada penambangan nikel, LUAR BIASA 🤣😂🙃, TOL*L²

[@dutasatu1]

Blok...di jawa juga ada industri penambangan minyak, gas dan tidak kalah juga tambang emas terbesar no 3 di Indonesia...tp gak pernah tu orang jawa maki2 orang luar jawa​@@madilauliaaa589

[@TB-up4xi]

85% of Indonesian mined nickel goes to making stainless steel, other alloys and nickel plating. Of the remaining 15% around 1/2 goes into small disposable batteries, phone and laptop batteries. Somewhere in the order of 7-8% ends up in car batteries. Absolute BS reporting to try to claim that China's EV industry is fuelling nickel mines in Indonesia, try at least a little to do SOME research on where the nickel ends up before posting idiotic stories like this.

[@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834]

that's the actual ambition of the government though. they WISH they could make a downstream of a nickel industry into EV. they WISH to enter the global EV supply chain through value added, they WISH to have a say in the growing EV industry. But yea, like you said, it just ends up in stainless steel and other low value industries.

[@champan250]

@@TB-up4xi also Indon Govt threatened Tsingshan with the nickel pig iron ban, which led to Tsingshan built all the steel and stainless steel capacities within IMIP.... Export sales of these are required to deposit the USD income into Indonesian banks and the country's banking system is now flooded with money

[@abcddef2112]

The miner itself have a lot more companies though some are western like eramet, some australian companies, and vale if u consider brazilian western. LG also involved in processing.

[@abcddef2112]

@@champan250flooded is overstatement.

[@RichardKing-sx6xc]

*CHYYYNA!!! CHYYYNA!!! CHYYYNA!!!* ~ envious american 😭😭😭

[@RichardKing-sx6xc]

@Booz2020 😎👍

[@worlds3061]

​@Booz2020I don't hear anything about Westerners coming to India lil bro. Cry more

[@foosimon7537]

yes, yes, it is all about China, every story has a China. Come on, US, be confident!

[@rhs_0938]

Have y'all Americans see what Freeport, your mining company have done to the Papua? Y'all destroying Papuans lands and lives!

[@vaingaler5001]

I rarely see such documentaries being made if it's owned by the US companies like Cargill or BlackRock which caused so many destruction 😂

[@ardi08]

They will bark "Free West Papua" instead.

[@abcddef2112]

As papuan though not from Mimika, honestly no report of the massive landfall waste resulted from them dumping in the river. Its more apocalyptic than in Sulawesi actually, you can even see it from space thousand of kilometers. Typical western hypocrisy, they don't want Indonesia to suceed.

[@ricnyc2759]

Does China have the right to have anything? This question goes to CNBC, BBC, DW... etc. It seems like China doesn't have any right.

[@blackfoxstudioX]

Only US can because they spread freedom, especially in those countries who have oil 😉😉😉

[@warsamaosman-Sool]

No, the evil ccp does not have the right to own anything

[@Western_Decline]

The U.S. is just mad it’s 2 decades behind in EVs, from technology to supply chain. So the State Dept pays for this propaganda.

[@mariajiao4855]

No, only white people can.

[@kidShibuya]

WTF are you talking about? It's not about the right. It's about the damage it causes.

[@SonyThamrin]

When in 1967-2024, Freeport McMoran (US) mined gold and copper in Papua, there was no negative news in the foreign media. Even though 3,000 tons of their tailings polluted the Ajkwa River in Timika, Papua. And thousands of local indigenous tribes suffered. Meanwhile, when Chinese companies mined Nickel in Sulawesi, the foreign media were very enthusiastic to making negative news. And they never reported Indonesia's benefits from the Nickel mine. For Indonesians, news reports like this are just Western propaganda.

[@ridwanhartanto3158]

Pokonya yang bersebrangan dengan keinginan barat.semua melanggar aturan...itu kata orang barat..seperti media ini...

[@nadeemchaudhry6585]

Americans complaining about China dominating markets 😂😂😂😂 One rule for US and one rule for the rest of the world 😂😂😂

[@auro1986]

how? america scanned soil in every country and distributed mines

[@silidfc28]

Yes hahaha 🤣🤗😂 coment your smart bro..!!

[@dn6127]

Good play for Indonesia

[@sabilza]

Nothing's preventing western companies to build sustsinable and environmentally friendly nickel processing plant in Indonesia. It's only China who's willing to invest 🤔

[@Lagoost]

People in Asia don't want Anglo Saxon to get involve in their internal affairs..

[@hehe-mq2bk]

yes

[@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834]

neither the Sinosphere....

[@NoFrillz-G]

@@muhammadrayhanarifinsyah5834 true but the balance is between the 2. For the past 100 years it was alll Anglos .

[@chiadamian]

What is missing in this report, is this refineries provide over 5 million jobs, and it allows battery and other high-tech manufacturing in Indonesia.

[@chi-jenyang9752]

China did not just take over Indonesia's nickel industry to fuel its EVs. China took over Indonesia's nickel industry to fuel our EVs.

[@theburden9920]

In laymen terms China controls our ability to make our own EVs

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

Indonesia has helped the USA to manipulate the global gold index, thanks to Freeport McMoran. So it is fair now Indonesia helps China. Indonesia is not my country.

[@remix-yy1hs]

​@@theburden9920as they should. When they invested while you was lgbtq and creating new pokemons

[@theburden9920]

@@remix-yy1hs materials to Evs = materials to military equipment like the F-35s. And the pentagon sits there and funded a mine in california to supply china the raw materials. This is beyond stupid

[@emilsohn1671]

Increasingly, China is moving to LFP batteries. I am not saying an EV with an LFP battery uses zero nickel, but it certainly utilized minute quantities of it compared to cars based on NCM-battery chemistry. EVs are a changing field, and the resource consumption of making them a moving goalpost.

[@esashaik1372]

Indonesia the Saudi Arabia of nickel.Nickel is becoming the new oil for electric cars.China agreed to build smelters in Indonesia while the US refuses to do it fearing making Indonesia a new economic power that will challenge the US.This is the real reason the US is reluctant to invest in Indonesia.But the US will gladly sell Indonesia second hand weapons that the US is phasing out at rediculous price and claim its good weapons 😂

[@emilsohn1671]

Nickel is hardly the new oil for EVs , since the next generation of EVs will be increasingly based on LFP batteries which uses far, far lower quantities of nickel. BYD and Tesla are ahead of the curve here, and legacy manufactorers the ones still relying the most on NCM battery tech. Tesla isn't free from reliane on NCM tech in its long range cars, but its mass-marketed models increasingly rely on LFP-battery chemistry. This video is funnily enough increasingly outdated for every passing moment after it was aired. But this is ofc an American mainstream media owned by private interests, so generally speaking, they have clear financial incentives to say everything they do and cannot be expected to be based on objective information.

[@NurTaufiq-jr3ey]

China implements cooperation between countries and mutual benefits, while the US and the European Union implement a imperials system for their own benefit. 😂😂😂

[@Noinoanoe]

The comments did not go as CNBC would expect 😂

[@noefvon]

Because everyone knows.. western use propaganda like this

[@thegrandlord2914]

Indonesia creating downstream policy for mineral ores EU & US: challenging and trying to crush this policy China and other asian countries: Investing in Indonesia to build smelter That's how indonesian mining industry have closer ties with china and other asian countries

[@andisuharto9990]

17.000 ton vs 1.800.000 ton ????? Are you kidding??? American cry.

[@ginger55555]

Western double standards !!!

[@Tim145Tim145]

So these mining directors want to raise Nickel price to raise the battery price and get money from everyone.

[@zacharythornton1904]

No ev battery’s and every other lithium ion battery is used n demanded it’s going up already

[@polonium7544]

😂

[@polonium7544]

No money no nickle That's called stupid trading

[@brianbaltazar6198]

I love china

[@honza970]

So much salt in the video. China saw opporunity and took it. EU did ... nothing and lost. It sucks to be at the bottom of the economic ladder for Indonesia. It sucked for China and everyone else too. That too shall pass in time. Good job on requiring investment in the country, that's the way..

[@mamanpd5341]

Only looking from one side so that they suspect one party. Indonesia wants its nickel industry to have added value. It is not only Europe and America that can advance their industries. Europe and America have been invited to invest in Indonesia's nickel industry. Now the companies that will and have invested are China, Korea, Japan, Canada and France. You're just accusing.

[@100c0c]

Indonesia should move up the value chain. Exporting minerals and importing them as finished goods at this scale is exploitation.

[@Tenzo7515]

Chindonesia 😂

[@multatuli1]

No deal from elon musk

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

Indonesia has helped the USA to manipulate the global gold index, thanks to Freeport McMoran. So it is fair now Indonesia helps China. Indonesia is not my country.

[@Omer1996E.C]

This is wrong, Indonesia need to export to get money to educate their people and produce capital goods. After all, without an educated labour and capitals, how will Indonesia move up the value chain? First, it starts with exporting, it's trade with consent, not exploitation

[@kudajingkrak4919]

Indonesia invest in the downstrreaming industry... from the mining to smelting/refining, to Batteries manufacturing, to the EV (Car/motorcycle/eBike,etc) manufacturinng, and also the recycling facilities (batteries recycling & car/motorcycle recycling)... all the minerals are use in this industries not for exports. like you said the move up the value chain.

[@godzillamothra5983]

Indonesian here, the reason why Indonesian gov partnered with China because Chinese companies are the only ones willing to open smelting factories in Indonesia. Indonesia has enough of western mining companies extracting our resources and bring them to the west without leaving any scraps to us. So the government want companies to build refining in Indonesia, creating jobs for our people. But western companies refused to do that, only the Chinese are willing. As for pollution, western mining companies are not any better, just look at what Newmont did to Indonesian waters, or Freeport, who literally demolished whole mountain, and now is in its second phase, digging a giant hole out of the flattened mountain to extract the resources. So please, get down your high horse.

[@lucygum8131]

Indonesian laugh about it

[@VasVordokas]

I remember working in commodities when Indonesia first put this ban in place. Believe FreeportMcMoran may have even tried to sue the gov’t. In hindsight this was a strategically great move, albeit the internal challenges in the short term. It’s no secret that it’ll take time for economic gains from higher value products to trickle down in Indonesia. They’re improving but are still weighed down by a history of corruption, as with any “resource curse” nation.

[@frankinstein9335]

That why nikal are cheaper nowadays

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

That's still Being the most expensive battery component.

[@denyrahadiyan]

where do you mine nikal? in antartaca?

[@denyrahadiyan]

where do you mine nikal? in antartaca?

[@yosichadutawisnuandika5168]

Indonesia wants to transform from an agricultural and service country to an agricultural, service and industrial country like China. Indeed, Indonesia does not have the technology and infrastructure needed, but Indonesia has the main supply chains in the world as industrial raw materials. When Indonesia tried to transform into an industrial country, it turned out that the main enemy was European countries, because indirectly when the Indonesian government stopped exporting raw materials to Europe to supply industry in their factories, it was the same as quickly killing factories and smelters processing raw materials, so that forcing massive industrial job cuts in Europe. when Indonesia asked Europe for help to help build a raw material processing factory in Indonesia rather than exporting it to Europe and was rejected, then Indonesia's main choice was China as Europe's political and economic opponent, however Indonesia is a neutral country, not accepted by the G7, so turned to China for help. So who is not at a loss? Yes, Europe itself is at a loss, paving the way for China's industrial expansion in Indonesia, Indonesia is also not at a loss, because of China's investment in Indonesia by helping to build smelters processing raw materials and realizing Indonesia's hopes of becoming an industrialized country.

[@jamix203]

That dude just mentioned Chinese oversupply of nickel, yet the Chinese have barely enough for themselves.

[@LeMe-kv9jd]

Typical CNBC propaganda 👎👎👎👎

[@JuraganEmas]

Yah, i can only see double standard

[@amrizalsyahputra6243]

Indonesia has learned from the American company's Copperpura gold mine... wherever there is an American or European mine, in that location there will definitely be uprisings... in the end they ask for an American military base to be built for security reasons. 😅

[@delai86]

this review very one sided and steering opinion... why not also mention the impact of economy of investment inflow from smelter building and manufacture factory for the local people of indonesia? western people always act like they are saint from heaven and never review their country first !!

[@nnonsensee]

Indonesia : we don't sell raw nickel Europe/america : china takeover Indonesia, not environmentally "FRIENDLY" , bla bla bla China/korea : yeah we invest in Indonesia We don't have money to process "ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY" that's why u need invest it Not only buy cheap raw & leave Indonesia behind

[@ikesbal1010]

So hypocritical!!!

[@handiherawan_]

One of the logic reasons Why western companies do not want invest in indonesia nickel industry is Competition from Chinese Investors: Chinese companies have been aggressively investing in Indonesia's nickel industry, often with substantial financial backing and state support. This has made it challenging for Western companies to compete on the same scale. that's why western companies cannot compete with chinese money who's backup by state support.. i doubt any company in the world who can compete with chinese state support?? even tesla or apple invest in indonesia they cannot compete with chinese money state support who can pour unlimited money in indonesia and produce cheap nickel from indonesia..

[@sayfolman7752]

The Reason Is They Don't Want Indonesia Became Superpower Country Like What Happen To China

[@ME-xc1st]

How come the US government can pour unlimited money into Ukraine and Israel?

[@handiherawan_]

@@ME-xc1st they not come with free money isnt it? Theres must be the reason why US govermnent pour so much money into war, every government in the world not just pouring money to another country for charity. defense industry lobbying, another deal under the table with israel and ukraine.. only elite politian knows about that. We ordinary people can only guessing.

[@SIJAGOTV]

Prpagabda barat menjatuhkan pertumbuhan ekonomi indoensia dengan berita menyudutkan indonesia..

[@ismailfaturrohman4858]

I hope CNBC create documentary for western company in Indonesia also exclusively "Freeport". The history how it was build and the deal in 1960 and ofcourse about how "environment friendly" that company is

[@rusticbox9908]

@10:27 Nothing makes my day like American and Australian media telling us the Chinese are displacing indigenous people. 😂 Gosh, do you even know what the term means? Have you no shame?

[@Paul-e9x4h]

Nikel semakin banyak memberikan tingkat utilitas pada banyak peralatan

[@jaytang8192]

from the video, i can see others don't want to pay what the Indonesian government for and try to ban others to invest there. at the end, they may be able to pick up by their terms? interesting.

[@wustafa1771]

why cheap nickel is problem. That should increase speed of ev and solar adoption.

[@DanBurgaud]

12:00 Nickel mining does not use chemicals, not even water. It is as simple as hauling the soil. It is Refining that requires coal(fuel) and chemicals. This part pollutes.

[@arifsoetanto7533]

@@DanBurgaud every mining need water to cleanse the ore from soil

[@DanBurgaud]

​@@arifsoetanto7533 I am in the mining industry here in Philippines. We literally haul the whole mountain into barges and ship them directly to China. It is CHEAPER this way than to clean the ore locally before shipping.

[@arifsoetanto7533]

@@DanBurgaud I see. You cleanse with sea water on the way to China.

[@DanBurgaud]

@@arifsoetanto7533 You honestly think you can process it on a ship? You got 0% brain

[@MrDanni312]

You don't want Indonesia refining their own nickel? Enjoy your 17.000 ton nickel

[@vol2233]

Before the chinese got the contract, Elon went there, French companies went there, and many others, but they all backed out. Their loss.

[@martintanjung5540]

Oh yeah, what about Freeport mines in Papua and how the west promote separatist movement from inside their country...

[@muhammadhanif4113]

Indonesia try to balance investment from west and east. LG(japan),hyundai(korea),vinfast(vietnam),bosch(germany),ford(US),BYD(china) all have nickel processing factory in Indonesia. It's open to every country.

[@mahbubhossainsamm]

It is making Indonesia one of the richest countries in the world.

[@ardi08]

But not that if it cost with further environmental damages in Indonesia.

[@altaccaltacc7652]

​@ardi08 they damaged their environment centuries ago when they settled in America and kickstarted their industrial revolution in Europe.

[@picanha694]

CNBC should also make a video about "How the US take over Indonesia's gold and precious metal mines in PAPUA."

[@69Nero]

😂😂😂 nice propaganda

[@busy-time]

China supports what Indonesia wants, while Europe wants Indonesia to do what they want..see the different?

[@phoenix5054]

Meanwhile, Philippines' Nickel mining stocks are down AF.

[@ryan7622]

Which stocks are those?

[@phoenix5054]

@@ryan7622 Nickel Asia... down 38% YTD.

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

Indonesia has helped the USA to manipulate the global gold index, thanks to Freeport McMoran. So it is fair now Indonesia helps China. Indonesia is not my country.

[@kudajingkrak4919]

don't invest in the mining stocks, but the smelting/refining industries

[@lelouchabrilvelda1794]

Good. I don't want my country destroyed like this.

[@kasunnanayakkara793]

It 's literally the same way how Shell, Gasprom and BP took over black gold!

[@marklowe8087]

The nickel mines here in Australia have been put into mothballs,miners layed off.The Indonesian are correct in doing some value adding to their resources.their resources in the end.Australia simply puts dirt on boats heading to China. Mine rehabilitation is a costly business that the big miners manage to avoid without a very strict bond system.In Australia abandoned mines leaking toxins,acid mine drainage,are politely called legacy mines.The taxpayer has to pay for a degree of remediation with a bit of levy on new mines to help. Good luck Indonesia.

[@Willys-Wagon]

China no longer subsidies EVs, it's a master class of how to foster a competitive industry. It is a deliberate state led policy with specific time frame and final outcome in mind, not dissimilar to Indonesia's industrial policy on nickel, they wanted a domestic nickel industry, they wanted to move up the value chain, they needed foriegn technology transfer and know how and they invited foreign partners with clearly laid out terms. I say good for Indonesia, they know what their stuff is worth and they held out for the right price.

[@najmuddinmukhtar8973]

On the other hand, China is building more renewable energy plants, such as fusion power plants, concentrated solar power, wind turbines, and so on. They don't want to get their hands dirty, and keep pushing Indonesia to continue doing dirty mining. I know that westerns want to against Chinese industry. But the Indonesian government should also be encouraged to improve its industry to become a cleaner industry.

[@BrownMega86]

Barat memang tidak ingin Indonesia maju.. Sumber daya negara ini begitu banyak & berlimpah, ini menjadi sumber keuangan bagi mereka.. Jika Indonesia masih terjebak dengan pemikiran lama & tidak segera melakukan perubahan.. Selamanya Indonesia hanya akan menjadi lumbung kekayaan bagi mereka tanpa pernah diberi kesempatan untuk menjalankan bisnisnya sendiri..

[@frank-gz1xo]

现在中国已经不倾向用三元锂电池了

[@fajareka8786]

Amerika menambang tambang emas terbesar dunia di grassberg papua Indonesia.. dengan persentase 95% emas untuk amerika dan 5% untuk indonesia dalam 50 tahun.. Karena kontrak tersembunyi antara politik militer indonesia dan amerika.. Amerika memberi bantuan perang senjata, kekuatan dan kontrak tambang

[@Dr_Cole]

I love these videos. Whereas I understand the emphasis on how it impact the United States, the 2-3 sentence about ex-US impact are too small (i.e., Australia and Brazil). I would love to see a bit more in most of the videos in the impacts affect various regions).

[@johnthomas2970]

Look up the Kalgoorlie Nickel Smelter. It’s about 4 hours north of where I’m from - they’re shutting the plant down due to low nickel prices. A lot of jobs are going to be lost in November.

[@rafaelturang3514]

i live in Sulawesi island, i don’t know by watching this i should be proud, mad, or laughing.

[@samuxan]

Why talk about this in relation to EV and car companies? the same video tell us that is a small percentage of the use of the mineral. Steel industries or the military are the ones with the biggest share of this market and the ones that could push the mining companies towards different practices or standards

[@FajarEka-m9n]

Itu simple.. Indonesia tidak ingin lagi mengimpor bahan mentah seperti yang dilakukan perusahaan tambang negara barat menambang emas tembaga perak di indonesia dan mengirim bahan mentah ke eropa usa untuk diolah di negara mereka.. Dan china setuju investasi perusahaan agar diolah dulu di indonesia sebelum di ekspor ke negara china

[@ArifSetiawan-k2o]

It's not thrown into the sea, it's already been made into a dam by the government, if you want to mine nickel in Indonesia, just build a factory in Indonesia, always open, China, Korea have nickel factories in Indonesia.

[@duran9664]

⚠️Just wait for it. Later they will say: Recycling nickel is a myth 🤷‍♀️

[@klobasa007007]

They yelling cobalt, nickel, magnesium, lithium etc. demand will "skyrocket" because of demand for EVs...but i dont see myself buying EV until infrastructure and range is fixed which could take decades.

[@HendraGilbyanto]

nickel is not only for batteries but for stainless steel, lets see how you don't need it 😌

[@xiongferguson4709]

It’s obvious sponsored by Talon Metal.

[@reis1185]

Wouldn't happen if Western countries agreed to process it in Indonesia instead of importing raw materials.

[@JS-iq9ib]

Mengapa pemerintah tidak melarang chanel propaganda barat lagi mereka suka memecah belah dan menjajah negara lain

[@davidivory3234]

Islam juga hrs di ban ideology yg menjajah peradaban Jawa.

[@worlds3061]

​@@davidivory3234Based and redpilled

[@otak2kacang2channel38]

Agama kristen pemuja KOLOR pun harus di ban karena mempromosikan ajaran penjajahan dan genosida​@@davidivory3234

[@Raya-z6t]

​@@davidivory3234mending jual gereja buat dijadikan masjid.. Daripada sepi mulu..

[@davidivory3234]

@@Raya-z6t knpa tdk hancurkan saja gereja dan masjid orang sma² sepi.

[@introidegumilang8603]

America and Europe can only blame China for this nickel industry. Why don't the US & EU dare to invest more in Indonesia's nickel industry?