In this video, I showed that the infinite super power of rad 2 equals 2
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@jensberling2341 Жыл бұрын
This presentation is fantastic. Not a dull moment, and it is performed with humor. I have never seen such a beauty in demonstrating a mathematical truth. Thank you from my whole heart.
@kitcutting Жыл бұрын
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@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Your math teacher deserves all the respect. I appreciate the compliment, though.
@afjelidfjssaf Жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel from your popular tetration video! Thank you for making all these videos, I'll definetly be using them in the future for learning math
@DrR0BERT Жыл бұрын
For all those asking why 4 isn't the solution, when it it a solution to √2^x = x, it can be shown that each term of the sequence {a_n} that defines the infinite super power is less than 2 with a simple induction argument. To see this, define g(x) = √2^x. Note that a_(n+1) = g(a_n). The induction proof begins with a_1 = √2 < 2. Now suppose a_n < 2. We need to show that a_(n+1) < 2. First notice that a_(n+1) = √2 ^ (a_n). Also let me remind you that g(x) = √2^x is an increasing exponential function. With a_n < 2, then g(a_n) < g(2). That is, a_(n+1) < √2^2 = 2. Note, one can also show that {a_n} is increasing as an induction proof, which I will omit here as it is a straight forward proof using the fact that g(x) is an increasing function. So {a_n} is a monotonic increasing function bounded by 2. Therefore it converges. Its limit must be ≤ 2. This would rule out 4 as a possible solution. I get why he didn't include all this, as he wanted to streamline the presentation over being very meticulous an losing a good portion of the audience.
@tomctutor Жыл бұрын
Indeed but our host has shown that x=2 is "a" solution to the problem, not that there may be "other" solutions. We might call it the _principle_ solution if you want to be semantic. Just like the √ 4 =2 , is usually what my students write, but we all know that √ 4 ={2, -2}. BTW the first step in you inductive proof was a_1 = √2 < 2, could easily have started a_1 = √2 < 4?
@nigerianprinceajani Жыл бұрын
@@tomctutor sqrt is a well-defined function that is the inverse of x -> x² for x > 0 so in fact sqrt(4)=2, not sqrt(4)={2,-2}. If you teach your students that sqrt(x) has multiple solutions for a real x, you're teaching them something wrong. It is correct though that {-2,2} is the set of solutions to the equation x²-4=0. This doesn't mean that sqrt isn't well-defined, though.
@tomctutor Жыл бұрын
@@nigerianprinceajani sqrt(4) =/= -2 then?
@nigerianprinceajani Жыл бұрын
@@tomctutor Indeed.
@tomctutor Жыл бұрын
@@nigerianprinceajani I know you are talking about Reals, but lets extend this to complex numbers for a moment, whats the √1? =1^(1/2)=e^i(0+2nπ)/2=e^i(nπ)={-1,1} √4= 2e^i(2nπ)/2={-2,2} I know what you are saying though, if we interpret the radical √, meaning the positive root then you would be correct. But, unless you are wanting to abandon √4 ☰ 4^(1/2) and it's extension into complex field, then you can't ignore the -ve branch of the root. All that said there is nothing wrong with asserting √x ≥ 0 ( only the principle branch) as also there is nothing wrong with choosing a ≤√x ≤ b for some arbitrary choice of real interval [a,b], thus a restriction on your domain, which you need to do in some geometrical problems.
@obamabingchilling Жыл бұрын
After experimenting with tetration, the e root of e seems to be the limit of infinite tetration. Any number higher than this infinitely tetrated will grow till infinity, whereas the e root of e infinitely tetrated settles at the constant e. Very interesting stuff. Thank you Mr. Prime!
@meraldlag4336 Жыл бұрын
The other bound is 1/(e^e) before things get unstable :)
@Scratch3.0Tutorials Жыл бұрын
yes, this is due to the derivative of the graph x^x or x^-x I can't remember which
@mari-with-a-gun Жыл бұрын
I don’t have a formal proof but I think the infinite tetration of the nth root of n always converges to n (and the max of n root n is e root of e)
@cwldoc4958 Жыл бұрын
@mari-with-a-gun It was fairly straight forward to show that what you say (that is, that the tetration converges to n) is true for 1e) there are two solutions to the equation x^(1/x)=n^(1/n), and there exists 1
@cwldoc4958 Жыл бұрын
@@mari-with-a-gun I believe your statement holds for 1
@oleswen4 ай бұрын
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@fullfungo Жыл бұрын
For simplicity let’s denote root(2)=r. Now, by r^r^r^r^… we mean the value that the following sequence converges to: a_1 = r a_2 = r^r a_3 = r^r^r … a_{n+1} = r^(a_n). First of all, this sequence is monotonically increasing and bounded from above by 2. a_1 = r < 2. a_n < 2, so a_{n+1}=r^(a_n)
@m.h.6470 Жыл бұрын
WAY to complicated a solution for such a simple problem. Just do the following: √2 = 2^(1/2) √2^√2 = 2^(1/2 * 2)^(1/2) = 2^1^(1/2) But 1^x is always 1, therefore √2^√2 = 2^1 = 2 It doesn't matter, how many √2 you stack on top of each other. Anything beyond the second √2 can simply be ignored, as it is just an exponent for 1.
@eiseks3410 Жыл бұрын
That's the correct solution
@fullfungo Жыл бұрын
@@m.h.6470 did you seriously just say that 1/2•√2 = 1??? Please check your math before you call my method “WAY to [sic] complicated”.
@m.h.6470 Жыл бұрын
@@fullfungo Where exactly did I say that? Please check the math presented before you say something that simply isn't true. I replaced ALL √2 with 2^(1/2), so there is no 1/2*√2 anywhere in my calculations. There is only 1/2 * 2 = 1, which you should agree is correct.
@fullfungo Жыл бұрын
@@m.h.6470 as you said √2 = 2^1/2 So √2^√2 = 2^(1/2•√2) which is *NOT* 2^1. For some weird reason you concluded that 1/2•√2 = (1/2•2)^1/2, but this is not correct. 1/2•√2 = 1/2•(2^1/2) which is completely different. You would know this if you weren’t so smug and just used a calculator √2^√2 = 1.6325…
@pbhowes Жыл бұрын
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@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@jimbalmer526711 ай бұрын
2/20/24 I have a 69 year old brain and I'm having some concerning brain issues. This topic intrigues me, I know nothing about tetration. I never saw the concept. Your video shows that you are a teacher. With that, I am certain. Thank you for this, I'll watch it over and over as well as watching related vidoes. I will understand this. I plan to beat down cognitive issues using leaning events. Thank you for pushing me toward this path. It's a good one
@syamantagogoi10 ай бұрын
An exceptional articulation on the stuff. The way it is being presented it's really awsome.Though I am a retired person (Petroleum Exploration & Production Business) with Chemistry background I have become regular viewer of this channel ever since I discovered it in KZbin.By viewing this ,I recall all those good memories of doing these sums with great efforts while in our college days.Thanks to Prime Newtons.... and we do hope that it will keep on educating us
@pavelsolaris19015 ай бұрын
"...and we got this, and life is beautiful..." made my day :)
@tharteon1866 Жыл бұрын
The bob ross of maths. Calling Phi a flower is just poetic.
@jarskiboi Жыл бұрын
That handwriting is so gorgeous
@ozcanonal Жыл бұрын
You brought me back to 40 years to my university ages. A big smile on my face. Thank you. You are very good at teaching btw. 👏👏👏
@Cdictator Жыл бұрын
The presentation is way more interesting than the problem itself
@marc-andredesrosiers523 Жыл бұрын
Would have been worthwhile to check that there is a limit and that it is finite. Producing one upper bound would have been valuable, as the process produces an increasing sequence. An upper bound of 16 should be producible by induction.
@liams9047 Жыл бұрын
Earlier I made a comment because I made the classic order-of-operations-mistake. Rather than deleting I edited it to say what I am saying now in case anyone read the comment earlier.
@magefreak9356 Жыл бұрын
Why is this the case? I see what you mean by having an upper bound and using induction, but if I solve the same way for the infinite power tower of (3)^(1/3), I get 3 as the answer. However if I plug my answer into a calculator, I don't get 3. I know that working with infinity, weird things can happen, but where in the steps does this break down and not work?
@hoi-polloi1863Ай бұрын
Prime Newtons for the W! Nicely done, sir. Also, I gotta say I've never seen a mathematician with as lovely of handwriting. Subscribed!
@levistepanian5341 Жыл бұрын
is the idea that the powers are raised from the right to left? if so this makes sense. Imagine this: the rightmost sqrt2 is raised to the sqrt2, then sqrt2^(sqrt2^sqrt2), keep in mind that every time, you end up raising a sqrt2 to a power less than 2, I say this because sqrt2^sqrt2 < 2 because sqrt2^n where n is less than 2 is less than 2, just logic, and we repeat this process: sqrt2^(sqrt2^(sqrt2^sqrt2)) keep in mind that the inner bracket are less than 2, and as such the outer brackets are less than 2, thus this pattern continues, and the power approaches 2 as the reiteration approaches infinity. This is beautiful.
@EIswazi Жыл бұрын
That is so amazing! I audibly gasped at so many moments during this video and your attitude towards math is so beautiful! 9:40 and a beautiful checkmate indeed.
@HoudiniHamster9 ай бұрын
J'aime beaucoup votre style (surtout la casquette), votre dynamisme. Et cerise sur le gâteau, votre diction est très claire et facile à suivre pour un non anglophone.
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guy, you are so charismatic !!
@ShivamBajpai219 Жыл бұрын
I understand the use of W function. But for the youngsters who possess basic knowledge of log functions, there's an easier way. We have x ln (root 2)= ln(x) => x ln(2)^0.5=ln(x) =>x/2*ln(2)=ln(x) =>x ln(2)=2ln(x) This is a one on one function unless x itself is a function. So by observation x=2 Or rearrange it like X/ln(x) =2/ln(2) And we get the same result. Discovered this channel 5 minutes ago, but am hooked with your energy man. Great work 👌🏻
@Notthatkindofdr Жыл бұрын
But your final equation also has the solution x=4. That is, 4/ln(4) = 2/ln(2). So does x=4 or x=2?
@ShivamBajpai219 Жыл бұрын
@@Notthatkindofdr Yup, you are right. I wrongly assumed it as a one on one function. My bad. X will still be equal to 2, since if the result is 4 then that's equal to 2^2. I have no idea how to explain this mathematically but the function will not be greater than or equal to 2^2.
@TazPessle2 ай бұрын
Flower is the cutest term I've heard substituted for 'phi' ever.
@kvanccapar8906 Жыл бұрын
sir, the thing you did there was just unbelievable at all meanings. WOW. that's mindblowing thank you so much
@DmytroMiller Жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks! The only thing, which somehow escaped from the discussion, is the fact that equation 2^(x/2)=x has two solutions: 2 and 4... which would be probably valid to address, at least, and also it somehow compromises the idea that sqrt(2) power infiniti has a fixed value, as it probably can't take 2 values the same time
@chucky428 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@panagiotisvlachos61146 ай бұрын
You are the reason that I'm thinking to love Mathematics!! One of your best videos!! Congratulations!!
@husseinhussam6014 Жыл бұрын
The equation (sqrt(2))^x = x has two solutions which are 2 and 4. Then why does the infinite tetration of the square root of two does not equal 4?
@bhaskarporey3768 Жыл бұрын
In right hand side of the equation the number is 2. So according to the question we have to show the value of x which satisfy the equation. We are not here to find the possible value of that equation. I think that's what he tried to prove here.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
When I make videos. I try to make it as easy to understand as possible. I know the tetration converges to 2. I just needed to show the only valid answer. It is like solving for the sides of a triangle. If you get +2 and -3, you only keep the valid answer, in this case +2. Hope this clarifies it.
@antonvakhitov9477 Жыл бұрын
I also found out that sqrt(2) ^ 4=4 holds and I was wondering where it a step which is technically illegal. Turned out that this is the second from the end step. If W-function of something equals to W-function of something else, these somethings aren't necessarily equal. (W(x) = W(y) does not mean x=y)
@rainerzufall42 Жыл бұрын
As I said above, W delivers 2 values in that range! W_0(y) = - ln 2 and W_1(y) = - ln 4. This implies the correct results 2 and 4. You may call 2 a principal branch result, just as for W() function, but I'd say, it's just not clever to use the W() function for real values < 0. The only value < 0, that doesn't have zero or two results, is W(- 1/e) = -1.
@yurenchu Жыл бұрын
@@antonvakhitov9477 Actually, it's the other way around. W(x) = W(y) does mean x = y , but u*(e^u) = v*(e^v) does not automatically mean u = v . As a consequence, -ln(2)*e^[-ln(2)] = -ln(4)*e^[-ln(4)] does not automatically mean -ln(2) = -ln(4) Note: the lefthandside is -ln(2) * e^[-ln(2)] = = -ln(2) / e^[ln(2)] = -ln(2) / 2 while the righthandside is -ln(4) * e^[-ln(4)] = = -ln(4) / e^[ln(4)] = -ln(4) / 4 = -ln(2^2) / 4 = -2 * ln(2) / 4 = -ln(2) / 2 which matches the lefthandside.
@Playerofrole Жыл бұрын
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@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@bonity3605 Жыл бұрын
I love ur videos!! As a high school student, I would appreciate it sm if u could do a video on Calculus introduction :) I wish all my maths lessons were like urs haha
@childrenofkoris5 ай бұрын
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@Sigma.Infinity5 ай бұрын
Putting the W(known constant) result into a form which can be evaluated "by hand" rather than using LambertW lookups is a new idea to me. I like it!
@Negawisp Жыл бұрын
4 is an answer too tho. The W function must be a multi-value function
@tomctutor Жыл бұрын
4 is not a solution to the infinite tower though?
@_im_also_here_ Жыл бұрын
I love this guy's energy
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@NidalDajani10 ай бұрын
Knowledge is there for everyone to grab. But it takes a great teacher to guide you where to find it. Thank you for your outstanding style of teaching.
@mertcankayamc Жыл бұрын
How is he able to make me so interested in mathematics again. It’s almost 00:00 am and i was just watching this for fun
@marcolima899 ай бұрын
I give a like to all your videos even before I see everything, cuz I know how good it's gonna be. In this one, I understood the math, but I still opened an excel sheet to test it out and check :D
@moonwatcher2001 Жыл бұрын
I love specially the use of a tradicional blackboard❤ +1 subscriptor!!!
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
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@KTC88 Жыл бұрын
This is a really surprising fact and an interesting proof; thank you for sharing!
@Marcel-yu2fw Жыл бұрын
Hm, but why can't x=4? It is definitely a solution to the equation "rad2^x=x" and you lost that solution, when using the W-"function". (You seem to treat it as the inverse to the function f(x)=x*e^x which isnt bijective..) If you look at the graphs y=x and y=rad2^x they clearly intersect in exactly 2 points: x=2 and x=4.To determine which solution for x is correct you'd first have to define what you mean by infinite tetration. For example, you could define it as the limit of rad2^rad2^...^rad2 (n times) as n goes to infinity. In that case 2 seems to be the correct solution (you'd have to prove that though), but there might be other ways to define it and get 4 as an answer.
@Bradley2016_ Жыл бұрын
he also treated lnx as the inverse of e^x, negating all solutions which require ln(x) = ln(x+2πn) but thats not what he was proving, he was proving that √2 ^^ inf = 2, not 4
@Marcel-yu2fw Жыл бұрын
@@Bradley2016_ Well I dont think we need complex numbers here, and over the real numbers ln(x) IS the inverse to e^x, so I think thats fine. But his prove that it equals 2 just ignores 4 as a possible solution, he doesnt show, that it can't be 4. What he would have to do is show that rad2^rad2^...^rad2 (n times) approaches 2 as n goes to infinity (which seems to be the case). All his approach can show is that the answer is either 2 or 4, or indeed infinity, i forgot that possibility in my original comment: If x=rad2^^inf=inf then the equation "rad2^x=x" also holds.
@Bradley2016_ Жыл бұрын
@@Marcel-yu2fw no, im not disagreeing with you, that IS a solution, 3b1b has demonstrated it himself, but my point is that there are infinitely many solutions, hes trying to prove ONE of which, not two, not 786.5, ONE
@TheBabyRyU Жыл бұрын
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@sebastianmaccaroni6859 Жыл бұрын
@@Bradley2016_i was thinking the same, you’re able to make a divergent series appear to be a lot of different solutions with various manipulations
@slyfox74310 ай бұрын
What kind of mathematical magnificence did I just witness?
@sceneCatgirl Жыл бұрын
"If you're still with me, give me a thumbs up" Me, who has not understood one thing since the very beginning: *thumbs up*
@alexandermorgenstern4585 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I just stumbled across your videos yesterday and i don't know why but they reminded me immediately on "Bob Ross and the Joy of Painting". I adore the way you present the topics with passion and joy. Just fascinating! You should go to high schools and teach young people maths: They'll start loving it :-). Greetings from Germany. Alex.
@OlavRH9 ай бұрын
i love your vids so much friend
@nazardovlatyan5126 Жыл бұрын
Good manipulation. Good articulation. Thank you for reasonable moving bit by bit (w/t the charcoal, but not ink). Thanks for your style & pace.
@andrewyu2890 Жыл бұрын
You know what, I didn't listen your class. but I like your expression from your face so got a subscribe!
@novaz4768 Жыл бұрын
ok tetrations are useful for taking the limits of tetrations got it. also convenient I got recommended this after ur lamber function video
@tuliothx Жыл бұрын
What a joy. He is to mathematics as Bob Marley was to music.
@やみくも-q6d Жыл бұрын
I believe we first need to discuss whether the tetration converges rather than diverges before letting x = tetration, and that's not so trivial.
@AntonioRagagnin Жыл бұрын
Just here to comment before this video became a freaking famous
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Though it's irrelevant, I kind of want to hear him say "YEAH BOI"
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@ollieoniel Жыл бұрын
He maths like a pro wrestler.
@edgar_eats_pi Жыл бұрын
Wow! I was actually using the lambert function here, but i didnt see it that way. I just had an equation with a lambert function that you had to conpute. That's really smart!
@mariusnicolaeoprea3981Ай бұрын
Magistral demonstration; I like it a lot but it is necessary an observation: students may do a confussion betwen tetration and the repeated square root of 2. the repeated square root of any real number is one. You have to mention the distinction between
@AvrajitGRoy Жыл бұрын
Wow man you just revived my love for maths. Love you man.
@Brandon-sc3rz Жыл бұрын
this was great im surprised that i understood every line. if this is how you teach classes your students are lucky to have you.
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@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@isidorolorenzo802 Жыл бұрын
It's so nice an explanation! Really good job, my friend!
@johntsang244 Жыл бұрын
The proof is incomplete·It is because you to prove the limit exists before you find it. But you miss the first part.
@mohsin6044 Жыл бұрын
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@algirdasltu1389 Жыл бұрын
Damn when i realised where its going this blew my mind
@tzisorey Жыл бұрын
Viewer: Asks "Cool, but what can we do with it" Viewer: Expects "It helps us plot trajectories of asteroids" or "It helps design Artificial Intelligences" or "It helps simulate quantum effects" Actual answer: It helps you turn root-2 into 2 - aint that cool!!!
@syphon58992 ай бұрын
okay, this was actually beautiful
@Guitareben Жыл бұрын
Love your enthusiasm! Great video
@kaderen8461 Жыл бұрын
you sound like some mad scientist endlessly scribbling incoherent thoughts on a chalkboard and then getting a revolutionary idea
@olegskoropad5315 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! I once believed that any number greater than one in an infinite tetration should result in infinity. Your example inspired me to do a computer simulation and I saw that this series is convergent only if the result is
@TheFrewah Жыл бұрын
I have something for you! arxiv.org/pdf/1908.05559.pdf
@ibn_klingschor Жыл бұрын
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@oliviercomte76248 ай бұрын
1) the W function wasn’t necessary, 2) you forget to proove that the limit exists
@cwldoc495811 ай бұрын
For the purpose of calculating the infinite tetration for any positive real number, let a > 0, and define the sequence S(n) by S(1) = a, and S(n) = a^S(n-1) for n > 1. It turns out (to be proved below) that for 0 < a < (1/e)^(e), the sequence diverges and for a > e^(1/e), the sequence diverges to infinity. For (1/e)^(e) 0, that is, f is strictly increasing (2) f(0) = a and f(1) = a^a (3) f has one point of inflection, at xo = [ln(ln(1/a))]/ln(1/a)
@Pryangod Жыл бұрын
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@RuyVuusen Жыл бұрын
I'm still early in my freshman year in a university, so I could be very wrong, but I wondered: could you simply after xln(sqrt(2)) = ln(x) divide both sides by x, so that you get ln(sqrt(2)) = (1/x)*ln(x), then write it ln(sqrt(2)) = ln(x^(1/x)) and by removing the natural log from both sides get sqrt(2) = x^(1/x), which is 2^(1/2) = x^(1/x)-where you get x = 2 trivially?
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@RuyVuusen Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons Ok, thank you!
@cwldoc4958 Жыл бұрын
2^(1/2)=x^(1/x) does not imply x=2, because x=4 is also a solution.
@RuyVuusen Жыл бұрын
@@cwldoc4958 Oh yes, but since the solution can be showed to converge towards 2 and not even close to 4, x = 2 is the only valid result. The same explanation was omitted from the main video, too.
@dkdashutsa1575 Жыл бұрын
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@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@g.yohannes184810 ай бұрын
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@samtux762 Жыл бұрын
> Tetration is useless Even more powerful operation is useful. Graham's number (really large number) was used for a practical proof of the upper bound in a problem in graph theory.
@williamspostoronnim9845 Жыл бұрын
Lambert W is effective, but too complicated for unsophisticated. Luckily it's pretty clear from the get-go that the answer is 2.
@takoau Жыл бұрын
Your blackboard writing is very good
@victormanuelpatosilva1637 Жыл бұрын
Great. You're the TEACHER. A huge hug, to u & thanks a lot.....
@feierlord Жыл бұрын
A more simple way to think of it, although it doesn't necessarily prove it, is that the sqrt(2)^(2-) < 2, where (2-) is a number slightly less than 2.
@Andyg2g Жыл бұрын
As a math teacher, the misspeak at 6:30 is so relatable. 😂
@allegrobas Жыл бұрын
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@roronoazoro8343 Жыл бұрын
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@davidcastillo4938 Жыл бұрын
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@VirKap99 Жыл бұрын
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@Montegasppa Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful demonstration!
@AngeloSpina-b8c6 ай бұрын
Pay attention. W(-ln(sqrt2)) gives two results, not just one. Since -ln(sqrt2))=1/2 ln(1/2), it follows that W(-ln(sqrt2))=ln(1/2). On the other hand, since -ln(sqrt2))=1/2 ln(1/2))=1/4 ln(1/4), it also follows that W(-ln(sqrt2))=ln(1/4). Hence, actually the equation (sqrt2)^x=x has two solutions which are x=2 and x=4. Nevertheless, the infinite tetration of sqrt2 cannot be equal to 4 because the sequence a1=sqrt2, an=(sqrt2)^an-1 is increasing and an
@VanNguyen-kx6gx Жыл бұрын
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@r0nyyn3032 ай бұрын
Beautiful and clean explanation 👏
@CTT36544 Жыл бұрын
It actually only needs one step: x^2 = 2^x => x = 2, done!
@LaurentBessondelyon Жыл бұрын
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@nigerianprinceajani Жыл бұрын
There is an easy proof by induction that this converges (if you use the sequence a(1)=sqrt(2), a(n+1)=a(0)^a(n) it should be easy to see) and using tetr(sqrt(2),n)>tetr(sqrt(2),n-1). My problem is that if it converges, why is x=4 another valid solution to sqrt(2)^x=x? Why is the sequence tetr(sqrt(2),n) bounded by 2 when there is an algebraic way to show that this limit =4 when it should by all means exist? Are limits not unique when using tetration or is there something off about my math?
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
These are valid questions you raised. They are worth researching. Thank you 😊
@ibcavid Жыл бұрын
If you suppose sequence converges to x, then x satisfies sqrt(2) ^ x = x. But it doesn't mean that all roots of sqrt(2) ^ x = x are limits of our initial sequence. Also you showed that sequence is increasing, which isn't enough for it to have finite limit, it should also be bounded from above. It could be shown that the sequence is bounded by 2 by induction.
@nigerianprinceajani Жыл бұрын
@@ibcavid I was referring to an easy proof that it's increasing and bounded in my original comment. Since sqrt(2)
@vadim6484110 ай бұрын
The argument “if you subtract anything from the infinity it’s still the infinity” does not apply here. The whole claim is that the original expression is not equal to the infinity. What’s infinite is the expression itself, not its value.
@dhdusidjdjso Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the proof oppositely where you assume x^x^x… =2 and solve for x, which is very simple and you get sqrt2. But never seen the opposite of this. Very cool
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@robfrohwein2986 Жыл бұрын
Very nice presetation... completely clear ... thanks !!