Infinite Traffic Vortex Causes Growth EXPLOSION in Cities Skylines Fix My City?!?

[@heretolevitateme]

I'd love to see one of these where you let the traffic get bad and then fix public transport first.

[@derHutschi]

same for me :-)

[@soberhippie]

Or downgrade or outright ban traffic on some roads while pimping the public transport at the same time and keeping traffic at a high level

[@Auggie_93]

Same

[@KP-if5kc]

Been meaning to ask for that myself. Public transport only fix to see how much of an impact it has on traffic.

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

We have seen citizens bike massive distances We should exploit that and ban cars, trucks only.

[@dougsmith9679]

"Dedicated... Traffic Lights!" Nearly got us there, Biffa! :D

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

:P

[@JMWZ_E]

28:40 This road wasn't one-way before - so why a one-way bridge? Rather complicating things. 31:53 "I wish they wouldn't cross over" - if you use one-way tracks to build a trumpet interchange they will stop doing that. You can actually use every trick for building highway interchanges (except lane mathematics because everything is one-lane-only) for building train interchanges.

[@louie-laur]

I lost it at the marathon! 🤣 with your style of quick wit, I bet you are a pro at Dad jokes Biffa!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

One tries ones best :P

[@PimStoit]

I loved the sports commentary bit when you followed Layton Philips. Great episode.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thank you Pim Stoit :-)

[@kimlightfoot]

Wow, so cool to see how your skills in this game has progressed. Loving this Fixing My City Series is going. Hope the Season is being Kind to you and yours in our New Reality! Take Care Biffa, Luvs to Wifey and Childrens!!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thank you kim lightfoot :-)

[@jodinsan]

By the look of it, people were just driving through, got stuck in traffic, and just decided "Well, this city is nice enough. I guess we live here now."

[@ZachDotsey]

Don’t know why, but this comment made me actually laugh out loud.

[@KristersAndersons]

Am I the ony one that thinks this city has too short intervals between the junctions?

[@gamingages5725]

It was actually quite disturbing after watching his recent videos. lol

[@mysteria_1305]

It is one of his first, at least it sounds like it so makes sense it would have those mistakes

[@MarcCastellsBallesta]

These crossing railway segments are very annoying! Surely one way rails would have helped to solve the intersection issues. Or train-abouts. You haven't done one of these in a while, Biffa. This city looks great! Thanks for adding the playlist in the description!

[@hellsop]

32:00 The trick for stuff at this point, where trains cross over "opposing traffic" is to treat train right-of-way like highways and give them single-track one way "slip roads" up and over in areas where really heavy flow of trains is.

[@m_8_c20]

You should put one of your old cities on the workshop and have a competition to see who does the best fix !

[@tientje124]

I’m in!!

[@LyRyCuZYTB]

man what's up with that tree in the road trying to be a Russian doll?🤣🤣🤣

[@rikdhuyvetters1953]

Let's get rid of this tree ... or two ... or tree ... or four ... or five :D So you used the Matryoshka tree asset did you.

[@watchyour20]

"Don't even look at the trains!" lol

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Please don't

[@boschboehrlie]

4:21 Confirmed: Colossal Order is run by time lords

[@MatthewSwaine]

4:12 Calls it a "Pink District", but those are clearly red lights in that "zone" hyuk hyuk hyuk.

[@pfeilspitze]

Two mods I always run to fix some of the problems you hit here: Zoom It! so you can always move the camera out of bounds, and Optimized Outside Connections to avoid the 1/200 trains you're getting that are a big part of your trail trouble.

[@bunnywarren]

The quick setup of dedicated turning lanes can cause problems when bus lanes are present because normal vehicles can't turn right (or left depending on the side they drive on).

[@ShawFujikawa]

Biffa seems to view dedicated turning lanes as a free traffic reduction, unfortunately.

[@jodinsan]

Given the AI of the game, that's true in most cases. But it's the situations that are unique that tend to cause problems when using the same solution.

[@MrUN87]

You can specify that a bus doesn’t need to follow the lane arrows. And often clicking again will give you the right arrows for the normal lanes.

[@somevincentsauce]

Space and Time are creating population growth. I don’t see anything about this that makes it too bad

[@burningshine5524]

When you check youtube and Biffa uploades video 2m ago. Great work Biffa, every one of your videos make my city a bit better!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

You're welcome :-)

[@BebbaDubbs]

Random: but I wanted to say thank you for your videos! They are always humorous, inventive, but also relaxing. When I'm feeling icky they always perk me up or lull me to sleep... In which case I finish them in the morning to perk up! 😉

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

You're welcome 😊

[@benjaminschug5572]

At 32:00, you are forcing all intercity trains, and all the inner-city trains from the left onto the same one rail. You could split it up and have one rail from the outside connection to the right side platform, and another, separate rail from the left/city side to the left side platform. No need for them to cross.

[@housedawg-vw9zw]

its like a Mexican standoff but with...… traffic

[@Seriously_Unserious]

Oh Biffa, you came so close to inadvertently quoting The A Team! If you'd only said "I love it when a plan comes together" you'd have been golden!

[@andytespyx6223]

7:58 there is a train station asset missing there, on the other side of the railway, opposite to the solar power plants. That could help your trains

[@MillicentOak]

11:10 love that confused car coming in from the left

[@danielaltmann8493]

Grade separate the train lines that have the flat junction, as there never gonna be enough room for the trains in all of the legs... (Unless your lines use it to go down different ends other then crossing...)

[@stevieinselby]

It's so frustrating when trains can't even leave the map 😡. But apart from that, one thing that would really help there would be to set up some proper flying junctions where you have, effectively, one-way slip railways with flyovers and underpasses, so that they are not crossing over each other, just like you would for roads.

[@chrisgoodier6825]

Just starting watching this episode and I was thinking you could run a competition for the best city fix of one of your old cities. Get people to submit their fixes and do a video assessing the top 5 or something. Could be assessed on traffic, profitability, aesthetics etc. You could specify assets and mods used. Just an idea.

[@clashol]

in game (Esc) menu >> options >> TMPE >> maintenances tape >> clear all traffic lights = turns off all traffic lits in the city except timed ones

[@RTCommuter]

I see it now, the next big thing in Traffic Manager: Asymmetrical Traffic Lights!!!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Ooooooh!

[@RichardWilliams2015]

Phoenix, AZ has 7th Street and 7th Avenue both are timed asymmetrical roads outside of that time they act as a regular 4 lane with turning middle.... we call them suicide roads

[@Seriously_Unserious]

@@RichardWilliams2015 In Vancouver we have the same thing with Lion's Gate Bridge. It's 3 lanes with the middle lane swapping between northbound and southbound depending on the time of day.

[@RichardWilliams2015]

@@Seriously_Unserious please tell me it isnt an actual bridge

[@Seriously_Unserious]

@@RichardWilliams2015 It is, search "Lion's Gate Bridge" and you'll see it. Very iconic cable suspension bridge that connects Downtown Vancouver with North Vancouver.

[@nealcalvert1153]

This is how I found your channel, then I wanted another gaming pc, so this year during lockdown I built 1! Love the game, population 289000 and 80% traffic. Its a sprawling mess, not pretty, but addictive

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Nice :-)

[@CRemy-pk1fh]

Owh cool, what's your spec? Is it easy to build your own PC as everyone said? I'm thinking buying a prebuilt one medium spec but it cost twice of my salary.

[@CRemy-pk1fh]

@spam acc thanks for tip, almost everyone said the same thing. I've saving up money but had to use those saving during Covid-19.

[@nealcalvert1153]

@@CRemy-pk1fh yeah man mine was high specced atm. Not bragging, just im fortunate in my work and I could put it through my business as an expense. Its overkill really, rog x570 MB, amd 3950, 32 GB ram and the 2080ti, then they announced the 30 range a month after and the prices plummeted!

[@nightshadelenar]

@@CRemy-pk1fh in his channel "About" section. also, when stock comes back, Ryzen 5 5600X, 32 or 64GB of DDR4 RAM, and at least an RX 6800 if you want to be near Biffa's performance. i can get a pcpartpicker list together if you want some help.

[@patrickchapman8583]

@29:11 I'm surprised Biffa didn't run the train lines down into trenches to provide grade separation, or shifted the train lines towards the 'centerline' so that the road bridge over them could have a more reasonable slope. It's something I've seen him do at multiplatform end stations in the Teaport and Teaville cities. Maybe even dedicate one of the 4-track train stations for handling trains from the outside of the map and the other for trains from in the city. And maybe try to restrict one set of tracks to each station as being for cargo trains and the other being for passenger trains.

[@hhaavvvvii]

When traffic fixing, it's alright to ignore realism of road grades since you can go back and fix them later if you continue with the city. Since there's no continuation here, doing all of that is just extra work.

[@pfeilspitze]

Ah, After Dark explains all the bus lanes :) 5:55 Beware the bus lanes with "bish", though. You made it so the only right-turning lane is the bus lane... 25:00 And this is why tunnels are bad. When you can't see what's happening you fix the wrong thing. 26:55 The classic too-small-wye problem, no surprise there! (Though you seem to have said it's the problem but then gone and looked at other irrelevant things?) 28:11 you replaced a 2-lane two-way road with a 4-lane one-way road. That really didn't help your traffic.

[@CouchPotator]

Bus lanes are cosmetic only, unless you enable it with TM:PE

[@kalajel]

Would be nice a game like that where you build your city, and then you could get your own car and drive it around (a bit like GTA/Driver), see if your city is well-built and makes sense...

[@danthiel8623]

Oooh Can’t wait till you revisit Teaville.

[@emiliancristi]

at 12:31 you can disable the crossings on the intersection as you made forced crossing away from the intersection, that could free up the traffic in the future ! Thought you should know !

[@wschmrdr]

When the heck did Mr. Rotary start using timed signals? Although I'm not too crazy about the whole one direction only (much prefer the leading lefts, except on diamond interchanges where I use lagging lefts), good to see you've started the utilize the signals.

[@matthiasbecker5064]

With the trains: The are some junction assets in the workshop which have one-way train tracks like for highway junctions. I use them in my cities quite a lot. They do take up some space and it is annoying that the end up in the road tab but whenever i need junctions for trains but they helped a lot

[@sweatingalex5935]

i just did the best thing in cities skylines,limit ur self (limited money just creative city) to a single plot,then expand

[@jrm78]

I love to see your train and metro fixes as much as your traffic fixes. I'd reckon you should turn off the 'allow intercity trains' button on many of your train stations to help concentrate all the intercity train traffic to one location.

[@HoboCoastie]

Swear to God...I was putting dishes away the other day and as I'm putting glasses in the cupboard, I'm like "Hugo theah, hugo theah, hugo theah...". lol

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Lol :-)

[@joa8593]

For trains, it's often better to have only one way in and then a place to turn around for the other direction further down to prevent the trains crossing over.

[@ShawFujikawa]

Once a big train backup starts propagating through a network there's often basically no way to unjam it at that point, it's often just easier to enable despawning for a moment to bring the number of trains back down to typical operating numbers before attempting to fix the junctions you've identified as a problem.

[@wetfutzi]

The river around Alcatrace looks like a roundabout. 😁 Must be the perfect map for Biffa.

[@bradleysmith292]

Another tip to remember, and I've really tried to do it a lot, is to allow right turns on red with traffic manager. This way, with dedicated lanes, the right lane can go when otherwise it might have to wait a light round or two before it goes green, even go it's cross traffic was clear.

[@epiccollision]

Burn all the traffic lights!

[@sherrisville]

Yes, good tip. If you have dedicated lanes then the traffic taking the first exit on the junction should always have a green light set in TMPE

[@leonbenham25]

Hey Biffa, in small heavy road's there is a 3 lane +1 A symmetric roads, for the 4 way junctions. Really enjoying the mix of content 👌 😁👍

[@inyobill]

One-way track through stations and depots help a lot. I have none on main-line, and I split rail traffic and make over and under-crossings to eliminate trains crossing tracks. It may be over-kill, but rail jams are a thing of my past.

[@ThorsonWiles]

12:20 - Look at the 3+1 right next to the 4-lane 1-way 20:25 - Maybe Node Manager to soften that sharp right turn?

[@Shwafta]

I know this is a month old, but if you see this Biffa, what I like to do for trains at 32:34 where they overlap rails is make a junction (especially because you have room here!) so there's no overlap - send the right side over the main rail, similar to a regular three way highway junction. :)

[@Sarteth]

at 29:00, why not sink the rail lines a little bit under the new overpass?

[@FearlessLeader2001]

10:00 You missed a dedicated turning lane! Literally everyone is using the left lane to turn right!

[@IceHot247]

To be a fair comparison, I would have loved to see you fix the metros first. The 58% starting point was probably because of the broken metro stations. If you fix those first, then disable despawning, we'd see how bad traffic actually would be

[@CalebClif10]

“Death all over the place... we are making money” Biffa’s got his priorities straight 😂

[@balazskuglicz614]

@32:29 we never get to know what have you done to solve the problem :D also the first highway you followed wierdly ended up in a sixlane city road, obviously creating problems, and you moved on to start the fixing one corner away and ignored that bit for the rest of the vid, drove me crazy :D keep it up, this is your first city which looks quite realistic

[@IbilisSLZ]

About dedicated lanes: There is small 3+1 lane road available (just besides 2+1, three lane one-way and 2+2 one-way).

[@volktheplate]

Um the peps just waiting their own death in car,train and they has stand there for their entier life 😂

[@shdwmage24]

Its BiffaDay! Always look forward to it.

[@georgethomas7814]

I think that Modern Biffa needs to look at this again -- Making a culvert for trains is cheaper than bridging over the existing lines -- you can even cut and cover to give your city more space.

[@SeanLamb-I-Am]

At 14:56, turn off the crosswalks in the middle between those two exceptionally close intersections. You don't want cars stopping in the middle for pedestrians, you want them to treat the two intersections as one big intersection.

[@lisa1162]

It seems I've been sucked into watching real world road way videos. I seen one about the round about at Arc de Triomphe in France, and first thing I could think of was Horky Borky.

[@gh6stki11a3]

Hey Biffa, have you been having issues with the Ultimate Eye Candy mod? When I load into game it is darkened over. Seems this has now had a permanent affect on Map Editor. Map Editor loads into a very darkened screen. Only able to see the edge and the tile borders.

[@owendriscoll3440]

Does anyone else watch this even though they don't play city skylines?

[@strahlenbelastung3489]

Yes, I do. I got into watching his videos a couple of days ago and surely will be watching more. My computer is an 8 year old POS that runs linux on it and doesn't meet the minimum system requirements for the game at all. I'm playing SimCity (the very first part, you know?) instead. LOL

[@j.munday7913]

Biffa, have you seen the improved lane connections mod? It basically changes the games rules about arrows and favors dedicated turning lanes on most intersection combos. Its a nice QOL mod.

[@thesteelrodent1796]

30:20 you still have crossing tracks so you haven't fixed the problem - eventually it will clog up again. Never ever allow opposite direction tracks to cross each other, especially when you have plenty of space to avoid it. Crossing tracks are only allowed on closed circuits where you have full control over how many trains will come through, and that is just not a thing on the freight lines, especially when they're hooked into the outside connections

[@eddsson]

Dedicated turning lanes works so-so on roads with bus-lanes. Can bork up buss routes quite a bit if they've not got any nodes to switch lanes before junction. AaAaaand if only allow busses run on them (In Traffic Manager settings) then no-one BUT the bus can turn right. Yeah bus-lanes are a pain to setup and use.

[@TakisTamos]

the trains are driving me insane!!!! you must create a series for fixing train traffic!!!! pls another episode of fixing the trains!!!

[@francisgaliegue6645]

Watching you fixing traffic the way you do, I despair to see that the current urban policy trend in France is exactly the reverse of what you do: stop signs on main roads with secondary roads having close to zero traffic, absurdly low speed limits preventing the traffic from flowing freely, roundabouts when they are not needed, speed bumps on straight lines (with no pedestrian crossing in sight), artificial reduction of lanes, artificial chicanes etc etc.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

🤔

[@JoshGerhards]

It's amazing how much this game has changed, It's hard to remember the game without tunnels and no night time

[@michellep4792]

What system are you running the game on? It is so perfectly detailed and clear. I have a couple of mods like Ultimate eye candy but can't get anything near the high quality image that you do.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Specs on my channel about page :-)

[@guy_autordie]

For the vanilla trafic and no mods/dlc, I experiment to space out the highways to add entry ways to be on the left lane and keep the exit on the right lane. It works quite right for now. (60k pop) Next test: train roundabout.

[@Amokra]

4:15 Biff: oh look it's an entertainment district in the middle of the city and it's pink Me: ah I think that is the red light district and your city just moved up to an X rating :)

[@KaoSBluey]

Was nice to meet Hugos wife Andi Same-There.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

:-)

[@daddyleon]

I don't think I could've restrained myself from trying to rebuild the entire train-network.

[@dominikk6531]

I don't know about others, but I'd also like to see a fix for a Vanilla version and *then* see how much worse it would become with despawning turned off.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Pretty much all my cities are modded :-)

[@prunabluepepper]

Yes a vanilla one would be awesome. Pretty please 💕?

[@epiccollision]

Yeah cities:skylines without mods is, well, just garbage. They still haven’t addressed fundamental problems in the game that have to fixed outside the game by mods. anarchy and move it may seem cosmetic but they are essential.

[@prunabluepepper]

@@epiccollision true. Bitte it's the one I play. Not willing to spend money on extension packs for a company that doesn't play by their own terms of service and ignores EU law. So in stuck with vanilla.

[@StevoE7]

At 9:22 that U turn was necessary 😂

[@abdullahfadilsulaiman7268]

it is a beautiful city indeed. the garden is really nice.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Thanks! Abdullah Fadil Sulaiman :-)

[@starlight122012]

Biffa, I have an issue with my traffic which is stuck in a vicious traffic jam triangle,; can't upload to workshop at the moment; Steam has issues

[@infernus6278]

Hey Biffa, why are you not doing shift+click on roads to give priority signs? Has that been removed from the mod?

[@epiccollision]

No it’s still there, he just doesn’t use it

[@derHutschi]

Looking forward to see you fixing the train traffic :-)

[@Tenteono]

Hey BIffa, Is there somewhere we can check out your list of mods? I've recently got the urge to play City: Skylines again, but after watch your videos I really don't like missing out on all the QoL mods you've been using.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Top ten vid on my channel or my full list on my discord 👍

[@e1123581321345589144]

12:18 would have used the 3/1 road myself...

[@lordfaladar6261]

Do you have any of your own Biffa Made Assets?

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

I have some trams made by a discord member :-)

[@danthiel8623]

Teaport if I recall

[@OzzFan1000]

I've had the same problem with trains on several of my maps. Never did figure out a way to fix it. I can't seem to scroll to the edge of the map to fix it like you did. :-/

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Use the Cinematic Camera Mod to do that :-)

[@sirjmmus1]

I started off playing the "dedicated turning lanes" drinking game and now I can barely stand

[@mathaeus94]

Hey Biffa, I was wondering how you plant trees alongside the roads so perfectly, I can't seem to find the correct mod?

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Prop Line Tool :-)

[@mathaeus94]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines thank you so much! You are amazing! Loving your videos!

[@MostHitMan]

6:46 police car goes nuts

[@markknudsen1755]

Always crazy to see how things have changed in game isn't it Biffa? Question though with something I'm stuck on. I have Anarchy and the like switched off, but as I'm building a road. Trees and shrubs are not clearing out and covering the road. Suggestions?

[@nightshadelenar]

use the Move It! mod and "wiggle" the road around, usually by moving it up or down/side to side, then using Ctrl+Z.

[@markknudsen1755]

@@nightshadelenar tried that suggestion... did not work lol. Guess will have to move individually or something. Thanks for the pointer though!

[@nightshadelenar]

@@markknudsen1755 might need some looking around. you sure collisions are enabled?

[@markknudsen1755]

@@nightshadelenar Collision is on. Along with node snap, and road bending. Though road anarchy is off. Could it be that how fine road tool is acting? Or that I am building a good bit of roadways to set up the city first?

[@markknudsen1755]

@@nightshadelenar so I tried another map. It seems the issue is with vegetation on any map.

[@timvonr2802]

I really like that city. I’d love you to make it „perfect“ 🙈 now that you told us bout lane mathematics I can’t unsee it everywhere

[@DarKKlusteR]

Series Name Idea: - Tea Time Traveling

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Nice :-)

[@DarKKlusteR]

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines I hade to come up with something using Tea in it :-)

[@gieschaputri7117]

I love watching him suffered with the trains.. lol

[@NateAlan]

Your time lapse sounds overlay should be the sound of a kettle brewing ☕

[@LeeHalford]

18 min mark, there is a train station missing, that's why everyone went running for the metro.

[@bobschuon5908]

At 9:22, you turn on the "no U turn" option on a two way street that dead ends at the one way off ramp. You might have some angry motorists at some point. ;-)

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

I was really looking forward to the vortex, I was thinking you were probably going to use the natural disasters or something :c

[@apolloj23]

The Teaple are shocked at the trains in this city. Shocked. :)

[@jayayerson8819]

23:30 Trains should have gone over, not the road; or, an s-bridge to give a realistic slope.

[@samiyarossini]

Those people have been waiting at that train crossing for 5 years.

[@andorrotheinsane4604]

who else sees the noble man with the monokel on the top left wen biffe shows the traffic map?? :D ( the Sea is in Direction towarts the bottom to see it well, min 2.37)

[@stevengalloway8052]

Ah, the pre-tea named cities. Those were the days! 😆