INFJs, INTJs and Conspiracy Theories

[@mariojanaf5474]

we like to think, and imagine...but also have proof and evidence...but"trust no one" is our motto...

[@francisjudge]

indeed, the rabbit hole is where i dwell

[@Michelle-Eden]

How much did _they_ pay you to say this?

[@RjDaOne01]

(Shhh! They can see your comment! They won’t like it!🤫)

[@RensRoom]

@@Michelle-Eden 🤑

[@fredrikdippel3664]

It's a shift of perspective once you've untangled one knot and you start to see what is attached in the other end and it's a long twisted rope with many knots.

[@matthair8324]

Going to pull this in... Ren, you mentioned two articles of interest that emphasize my subjective logic regarding conspiracy contexts. You've touched on these from two perspectives as I rationalize them. You state firstly that the infj mind operates in concentricity, and glance over the imagery of a target, the bullseye, and the aim. That's a reference to what I see as Si/Ne. The mark (idea) becomes self-referential, the aim becomes adjusted, and the interest is landed as proximity to core values. Which, by intent, become acceptable. Later, my friend, you veer into calling infj thought as a web. Here I can stand on your wisdom. Spiders test their catch. You moved past this opportunity, too fast. If a mind were to consider the web as belief, then it's easy to consider ideas passing through as articles of interest. Leaves and raindrops both elicit a postural response from the spider. It will shake that web, for resonance. If there's no struggle response, the reference is judged invalid, and the spider waits. Tangible response in the webs' circuitry activates a deviation of normal behavior. If it seems that live prey (idea) has validation, the spider (self) leaves the center of comfort (belief/web) to retrieve ( fixation) said prey, and return to a moral center. I suppose, that this is where an idea becomes ingested as part of the self, centered in belief, and waiting for new engagement. See if this rings, I know your input pushed the thought. Thanks.

[@Maryannski]

Before I discovered Larken Rose and the Corbett report, I was an agreeable comformist living under a rock.

[@Maryannski]

I see patterns.

[@sterlingpg]

Who better to unravel theories of conspiracy? The time lag between a conspiracy theory and conspiracy fact in this period of the quickening on Earth is greatly reduced. The trick to navigation is avoiding overeaction by moving from the stable holistic mind and patience, to pathological imbalance with the massive blindspot of a factless quest that alters the ability of taking care of daily activities. My model of holding perhaps many dozens of such mysteries without harm is the backburner. I have a large number of backburners organized in a virtual array around my head. The closer to my head, the more likely true, farther away, less and less likely. 😂

[@RensRoom]

This is very well put! A good practice, I believe. The point is not to say that there aren't conspiracies (we know there are), but when one's thinking *itself* becomes conspiratorial in essence, then we are in the domain of pathology. We're basically talking about paranoia. It requires a clearer mind, equipped with a backburner mechanism and critical ratonality, to distinguish what is really suspect (and in what way it is suspect) from what probably isn't.

[@uliyankadoe118]

@@sterlingpg That's what I do before engaging in an in-depth research. Back burners are very useful for distilling the knowledge.

[@TyLean]

In a highly bureaucratic society, conspiracy literally runs the world. Nothing is achieved without conspiracy. I'm not a conspiracy "theorist." I'm both a conspiracy realist and an avid user of conspiracy in order to get shit done.

[@c.lstrife]

Ren: "You're going to have to trust me on that." Me: Bold of you to say that, my friend, bold of you. Lol 😏 On a somewhat serious note, when it comes to conspiracies in my case, I put them on a "standstill" and think "is there any trace of logic or evidence that backs this conspiracy up?" If there is, I look into it as best as I could and take it into consideration. If not, I'll discard it as false. In my experience, its mainly my ENTP and INTP family members who say conspiracies to me and I'll listen what they say and won't debate with them because I wont have information to contradict them (or not) at the time. Much like Cults, I view conspiracies as a dangerous thing because its easy to get swept up in them without questioning them or getting false information of certain subjects like vaccines, flat earth, or histories like "rome isnt real," (yes, there are people who think that rome isnt real and that latin doesnt exist despite there being evidence that they do exist). Questions: 1) Do you think that adaptive submissive INFJs fall for conspiracies the most? 2) What causes INFJs to have holistic minds? 3) What is it about us that people automatically spill their secrets/thoughts/feelings to us without warning? Sorry if these are repeat questions, I hope your day is well, Ren. 🫡

[@RensRoom]

Even repeat questions are useful. What I've learned over many years of producing video content is that you can't revisit a topic too many times. There are always new angles to highlight. An example of the process of 'infinite redescription' which I sketch in my latest book, perhaps.

[@Coneman3]

Yes our wholistic minds make us very skeptical of new theories.

[@StalkedHuman]

The mind of anti-christ states there is no conspiracies, just self. From this position, the intuitive mind lives. This is s grounded life-form 🧬 that is opposed to humanity. This is anti - christ

[@uliyankadoe118]

It would be intersting to see what you consider a conspiracy theory because without knowing this precisely it's impossible to engage in deeper discussion. I used to think the world much less psychopathic, much less evil and much more free than I see it now, after having done extensive research into satanism and ponerology over the last ten years. Unless one does this kind of in-depth research, which took me a good number of years, not of theories BUT research of what top psychiatrists and clinical psychologists say on the matter of satanism and ponerology it is impossible to conclude who, for example, rules the world. I used to have this tunnel vision you speak of and refused to see, but life had different plans. Check the most extensive research done by an international group of professors of psychiatry into the world of politics. To publish the book the author had to contend with formidable political powers. "Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes" by Andrew M. Lobaczewski. Many psychiatrists have "disappeared" after their university work was discovered. It's the only such book of this depth which has seen the light of day. Do the research, then let's talk.