Inflatable SUP- Honest Look at iSUP's vs. hard boards

For more information: www.blueplanetsurf.com/blogs/...
An honest comparison of Inflatable iSUP's and hard boards. The pros and cons of iSUP boards, what they are good for and what they are not as suitable for, differences in iSUP construction, longevity, survey results, and recommendations. Truth: some are facts, some are opinions, your comments and questions are welcome down below.
Pros of inflatable boards: portability, durability, soft surface for safety
Cons: Pumping/ longer setup and breakdown, flex, limitations of shape, longevity and seam issues, risk of puncture, lower performance in some conditions.
Recommendations: Get a well made inflatable from a reputable manufacturer, or choose a solid hard board for better performance in surf or rough water.
survey results:
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survey link:
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For more information about our $599 iSUP closeout sale (while supplies last):
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Videos mentioned and in B-roll:
Alaskan SUP adventure- board puncture video (at 5:10):
www.supthemag.com/videos/alas...
Grand Canyon SUP river trip:
• Grand Canyon SUP river...
Paddling iSUP's in Venice:
• SUP in Venice Stand Up...
Waterfalls of Iceland:
• Waterfalls of Iceland
Makaha SUPsquatch at Uncle Buffalo's contest:
• Buffalo Surf Meet at M...
Foil iSUP:
• SUP Foil Inflatable by...
One point I forgot to put in the video: Thinner iSUP's are better for surfing as the thinner rails work better for carving on the wave but the downside is more flex. Thin boards flex a lot even if inflated over 20 psi, the thicker the dropstich material is, the less the board flexes. The difference in flex between 4" thick and 6" thick iSUP's is dramatic.
So for flat water, get a thick iSUP but for surfing thinner is better if you can deal with the flexing. Just don't expect an iSUP to get anywhere close to the performance of a good surf SUP hardboard. Tripstix, a new German business, is working on an inflatable board with tapered rails, and nose/ tail as well as vacuum chamber granule stringers, it looks promising but I think they will run into several issues with this construction as well: www.tripstix.de
For now we are focused on hard boards and possibly two part hard boards for airline travel as we feel that the inflatable technology is just not there yet (for performance boards).
Regarding Fishing iSUP's:
If you are using the board in calm water, an inflatable could work. Go wide and stable so you can stand while casting and fishing without being wobbly. I would say at least 35" or wider depending on your weight and height. Check out BOTE, they have both hard and iSUP's that are made specifically for fishing. I don't have much expertise in the area, otherwise, I would make a video about fishing Stand Up Paddleboards. I would also consider the risk of puncturing an iSUP since you have sharp hooks and knives when fishing. If you live in a hot climate, a solid epoxy board will probably last you longer as iSUP's can degrade quickly in the heat. Also check out this cool L2fish catamaran by Live Watersports: • Outdoor Retailer Show:...

[@BillMashek]

The fact that there is no variation in thickness of isups and lack of tapered rails was a disappointment for me with inflatables. They are great for whitewater where you hit rocks but a hard board performs better in surf and whitewater. That said, the portability of an isup makes them nice for traveling, and quality makes a big difference. Like hard boards the sun will eventually break down the material and If you get a seam leak, then you buy a new board. Great informative review.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thanks for the comment, you sum it up really well. 👍

[@matthewkramer8613]

Halla and Starboard seem to have some shaping now but still not the same as hard board. Isup is key for portability.

[@blueplanetsurf]

@@matthewkramer8613 The only company I know of that makes an inflatable with tapered rails, nose, and tail is www.tripstix.de They are still bringing the boards to market and I have not seen any reviews yet but the technology looks promising. All other inflatables are the same thickness throughout with fat, rounded rails, nose and tail. If you value performance over convenience, a hard board is really your only choice for surf and open ocean paddling at this time. I'm hoping the technology will improve to where iSUP performance will be closer to hard boards in the future but it's not quite there yet, that is the honest truth. Inflatables are great for convenience, flat water and travel, just don't expect the same performance as a well shaped hard board in the surf and rough water.

[@gordon5097]

Matthew Kramer Bbjjhfs😩😭😭😭😭

[@ts7844]

Thickness of the board is the least important

[@AllisonBurtenshawdeVries]

it took me a good three minutes to realize that you were a manufacturer! very cool honest look

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you. We sold a lot of iSUPs over the years and they have a lot of advantages but we have no regrets discontinuing them to focus on our strengths. Our mission is to help people have more fun on the water and long term customer satisfaction is what matters most. We feel that hard boards are the better choice for most people, especially in hot climates. 🙏😎🤙🏼

[@JohnV1554]

When it comes time for me to buy a hard SUP you will be the company I purchase from. This type of unbiased honesty is rare and should be rewarded. Great review and quite an education on the very relevant points necessary to make an informed decision. Great job

[@blueplanetsurf]

I’m happy to hear that, thanks for the comment and for your support 🙏😎🤙🏼

[@free2bwild913]

I am a newbie and soaking up all the info I can get. Yours was greatly appreciated. I am pleased you were not rushed and made it so thorough. Thanks!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Good to hear you found it helpful, Aloha 🤙🏼

[@henxestudios]

Thanks so much for your calm and informative videos on all things sup- I learnt a huge amount in a small space of time. Thank you for taking the time to offer so much free and honest advice to all of us scattered around the world :)

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you Caryn, getting feedback like this makes it all worthwhile 😎🤙🏼

[@orenji196]

Thank you so much for this very in depth video about boards, I just got into paddle boarding and this really helped me understand the differences. Thank you for sharing your expertise!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Glad it was helpful!

[@sarahtonen4873]

i watched 6 of your videos today. you guys helped get me on a paddle board without a lesson today! now i'm looking at what buying would be like......great videos, great lessons, great tips. Thank you, Mahalo! xoxoxo

[@blueplanetsurf]

Good to hear that the videos are helpful, Aloha 🌈🌴🤙🏼

[@SciFiGirl007]

Terrific straightforward information for newbies and not so newbies. The comparison of rails was really informative as you can see how rail shape impacts performance.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you, glad you found it useful!

[@joanthompson-digiacomo4638]

A 1st

[@spunout6686]

Great overview Robert. I get approached often with the inevitable "is that hard" but they usually have more questions. I have a number of hard boards and an inflatable. There are many factors to look at when getting a board and I think this is the best detailed explanation on here as well as a good summary. Will surely help in answering those questions or simply pointing them to this video. Anything to get more people on a board and on the water.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thanks, yes there is no short answer, that’s why we made this video.

[@seanof89]

I'm thinking of getting a board for casual use on a river. Really like this review. It gave a great overview of both types of boards. Think inflatable is the right choice for me and my budget so my swing that way. Thanks for the help.

[@blueplanetsurf]

It’s good to get the pros and cons and not just listen to the marketing hype, enjoy 🤙🏼

[@kimfraser-rybinski9554]

As someone who trialled a Red Paddle board last summer here in Australia I was glad that you were professional in your comments about the company. My daughters and I all purchased one for use in the next Australian summer. I will only be using mine in enclosed waterways and as a beginner I am glad that I have chosen an ISUP. Thanks or the great info and also all the instructional videos. They are really helpful.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Nice, iSUPs are great for that type of use 🤙🏼

[@suphirethailand]

This is a really good comparison. Here at SUP Hire Thailand, we operate 99% of the time on rivers and teach beginners. The durability, especially bouncing off rocks and during transportation is a major factor for our choice of using inflatables. Similarly, when someone falls onto the board, it hurts a lot less than falling onto a hard board. Good quality boards, such as Red Paddle and some of the fused NSPs are stiff enough to not make a big difference and we don't race them. One additional thing that we would like to add. When storing the boards, we agree that they should be stored inflated, BUT at around half pressure (8psi). We spoke to manufacturers about this and it means that they are not under maximum stress, but do retain their shape. Totally agree with the comment about seams. The boards that use fusion technology rather than glue, seem to last much better. Also, agree with not leaving them in the sun; keep them in the shade; if you have to put them in the sun, dowse them with water every ten minutes - it stops them going bang! Thank you for making the video. Please check out our channel: Sup Hire Thailand

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you for the comments, good videos on your channel. I agree that it’s best to store iSUPs at lower pressure and keep them from getting too hot. Regarding durability, our Tuf Tech hard board construction is very durable, comparable to inflatables without the downsides, which is why they are a great choice for rentals and lessons.

[@gloppy101]

@@blueplanetsurf or get a NRS isup that have pressure relief valve so no worry about heat expansion.

[@matthewkramer8613]

I have been riding a Jimmy isup and had no issues. Really like the videos here with Blueplanet. Sup surf really calls for a hard board. All points here are on point.

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏🤙🏼

[@stevenlove200]

Excellent review. I think you covered the subject well. One thing that I find is that inflatables due tend to leak some over time and this is a pain because you need to maintain high pressure in order to get any decent performance. Just having to check the pressure and then pump it up to pressure takes time. If you are looking for hardboard like performance, they simply aren't there yet, but they have their place for general recreation and maybe travel .

[@blueplanetsurf]

I totally agree, they are not a hardboard substitute (yet).

[@cyrilt9331]

Thanks for your valuable advices. I'm a beginner, I've just bought an inflatable board. I practice it in the mediterranean sea, in France. I used to practice solid Bic kayak. Inflatables kayaks lack of rigidity and there are huge differences between, I think it's more important for a kayak. I think the feelings depend on the level of practice! Thanks for sharing these types of video

[@blueplanetsurf]

Glad to hear it was helpful. iSUPs are great but you will definitely feel the difference in rigidity when you try a hard boards. 🤙🏼

[@elainebailey5861]

Great analysis -- I appreciate your efforts to help those just getting into the SUP world! Two thoughts (sorry if these were mentioned): 1. Some boards are quite heavy. (This goes for both iSUP and hard SUPs) and If you even THINK you might portage, get a lighter board. (Having said that, don't get a 4" board, your feet will usually be wet, but on a 6" board, you'll be able to keep them dry, especially if you're good at keeping paddle drip off the board.) I far prefer a lighter board, mostly because I do keep my iSUPs almost fully inflated (unless I'm traveling, obviously) and I always have a walk to the water. If you're shopping, go to a *real store* to look at boards. Lay the board on the floor and attempt to pick it up one handed with the center handle. That'll give you an idea how difficult it might be to get your board out of the water. I try very hard to keep my iSUPS from rubbing on anything; this is less important for my hard boards as those you can just yank an end and not worry about scuffing it too badly. 2. NEWBIES!! If you're not learning from a pro, PLEASE take the time to watch some how to videos here on KZbin. They tell you things that aren't second nature to most folks, and once you're out on the water, you'll appreciate the time you spent educating yourself. And obviously, wait for perfect conditions to go out the first time . . . . poor conditions aren't fun if you don't know how to handle yourself and your board. Thanks again for the video -- keep up the good work!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Good tips, thank you

[@free2bwild913]

Elaine Bailey this newbie is thankful for your kindness for details that I would not have considered. I appreciate any helpful tips. When I taught myself to water ski we did not have videos back then. Anything new to learn would be in books. I will watch and try to learn with videos. Excellent advice!

[@brianmorrison9168]

@Elaine Bailey That is one of the best comments I have read on many SUP videos and very useful indeed. I bought a board a few weeks ago and found it great fun. I've just treated myself to a SUP strap too, to make it easier to carry the inflated board to the launch site. It's only 200-300 yards, but they are big awkward things to carry. I pump it up at the car as I got an electric pump as a free gift with the board. (Bluefin Cruise 10'8") My mate got a strap too, so we could share postage .. worked out at under £10 each from the manufaturer directly (LOMO SUP Strap) Regarding learning, i suppose folk don't really want to be spending their hard earned cash on lessons, which is probably OK as long as you learn somewhere. I watched many many YT videos on SUP boarding, tides etc before going near the water (North Sea) Learning to get back on the board is important as you say and unless you are kicking backwards, can be difficult. Plenty of YT videos show how to do it. I practises a few times too before doing it for real. Just get off the board, firstly in water waist high, then higher then deeper water and get on a few times. It's easy then. Regards from Whitley Bay, UK

[@maryannincardona6718]

Thanks so much for the unbiased review. I am looking into purchasing my first board. I am in AZ 10 minutes from 2 lakes and a river. I have only rented solid ones in Hawaii, but the portability is so practical. I now feel comfortable making a purchase.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Great, iSUPs are very convenient for many uses.

[@nervouss]

Great video!!! Thanks clear, informative without the BS and marketing. Much appreciated. I got the info i was looking for.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Glad you liked it 🙏😎🤙🏼

[@damon567]

Inflatable SUP's are very dangerous in windy off shore conditions. If you get caught being blown out to sea, lay down, put the paddle under your chest with the handle pointing to the front and hand paddle back into shore.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, offshore winds are dangerous on any board but the fat rails on iSUPs make them catch even more wind than a hard board with tapered rails and a thinner nose. They also tend to bounce more in the chop and push water. Prone paddling reduces the surface area exposed to the wind, good point, thanks.

[@G1NZOU]

I ended up going with an inflatable, it suited my casual paddle use and I mostly intend to use it whenever we go on a roadtrip to our boat on the Norfolk Broads, so portability was the deciding factor.

[@blueplanetsurf]

That sounds perfect 🤙🏼

[@sitteenose]

I have moved from inflatable rentals to hard boards. Seam failure was my most common failure, I believe the heat down here in Belize destroys the glue over time because a couple failed in storage.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Hi Martin, thanks for your feedback. Agreed, I think the materials and glue degrade more quickly in hot climates, it seems that users in temperate climates have less issues. The quality and construction obviously makes a difference as well.

[@gloppy101]

I know of a rental company in So Cal that moved completely away from hardboards to inflatables because the cost of hard board repairs are expensive and the big one: people coming back in after getting wacked with a hard board in the surf. Painful.

[@laurileeroybal5438]

Love this fountain of iSUP and SUP knowledge.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thanks, you made my day! 😎🤙🏼

[@ryanrhoades7401]

Great video. Thanks for such thorough coverage. I'll be looking at your site. Subbed.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you for subscribing! We offer free air cargo shipping in the US at www.blueplanetsurf.com

[@stuartjensen6193]

Thanks for a great review. My strategy for learning to SUP was to purchase an inflatable for a number of reasons - 1. I have two locations to use it and did not have a good transportation plan for a hard board, 2. I am not a previous surfer so I didn't know how much I would like it or how well I would do, so I opted to spend a little less on an iSUP, and 3. I was concerned about properly caring for a hard board (dings, etc) and liked the durability. Also won't object when guests, friends, family want to try it. Sooooo - I love it, and have been on the ocean. Have not caught a wave yet, but am getting better at riding over swells, and paddling in more challenging conditions than the bay I started on. So is it reasonable to think I can get some basis with this iSUP and then hopefully have a very pleasant improvement in performance that I'll actually appreciate if/when I buy a hard board next year? Any input/suggestions are welcome, thanks.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you for the comment. You can certainly do everything on an iSUP, including surfing and paddling in rough water. You may not even be able to tell the difference while learning. Eventually, you will probably appreciate the performance of a well designed hard board but until then, just have fun and don’t think the board will hold you back from progressing. Enjoy 🏄🏽‍♂️💪🤙🏼

[@stuartjensen6193]

Awesome - thanks. @@blueplanetsurf

[@CarlosToledo_Cuba]

Exactly why I was looking for. Great video! Thanks

[@blueplanetsurf]

Good to hear it was helpful🤙🏼

[@alveer3321]

🙏 👏

[@untouchableisRK]

great and a MUST see video for newbies like me.Thanks so much for the unbiased detailed review .in 19:09 minute I learn more then from all this marketing people in my Isup shops near my home

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you for the kind words and kudos for educating yourself. It’s a long video but important information to know. 🤙🏼

[@Yooper05]

I will be ordering my next board from you guys! Appreciate this video.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Awesome, we always appreciate the support from customers like you 🙏😎🤙🏼

[@Lilysvideos17]

Me 2

[@AnandaMunoz]

Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into this. Plus all the super useful information!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Comments like yours make it all worthwhile, Aloha!

[@janepeterson8566]

This is a great and highly informative video. Thank you so much! :)

[@blueplanetsurf]

Stoked you enjoyed it 👍🌏🏄‍♀️🤙🏼

[@michaelschaller7572]

Best comparison video very informative !! Thank you

[@blueplanetsurf]

thank you for the compliment, Aloha!

Thanks i found all the answers that i have been looking for

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏👍😎🤙🏼

[@larissa.pilates1750]

Thank you for all of your videos, so helpful!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Glad you find them helpful 🙏😎🤙🏼

[@Vok250]

iSUPs biggest pro is how great they are for beginners. Cheap, soft, impact resistant, and portable. And they continue to be useful once you get more skilled because they are still decent all around boards. I wish windsurfing had something equivalent for beginners. Dropping $3000 on fragile kit is a huge barrier to getting people into a sport.

[@blueplanetsurf]

That's true, it's an inexpensive way to get introduced to the sport.

[@zacharyhardin426]

Thanks for the great comparison!

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏👍

[@dhflannagan1]

Finally an honest review of a blow up surfboard. They are what they are. A good surfer can make anything look rid-able. Maybe something to learn on? You take a hit from a blow up board, no damage done. Get hit with a real long board--OUCH! Thanks

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes if falling on the board is your main concern, an iSUP makes sense🤙🏼

[@gloppy101]

Well done video and straightforward! We use two inflatables as they are very easy to carry in our RV. There is just no way to carry a hard board. I've paddled rental hard boards on vacation and I really like them. That said, hard boards can be easily damaged and expensive (or impossible due to layers of epoxy, glass, etc) to repair. I know of a outfitter in San Diego who got rid of all their hardboards due to damage and moved to inflatables and are very happy. If in the surf or even in some whitewater, getting hit with a hardboard can cause serious damage to one's body (especially teeth) while the inflatables don't have nearly that impact. For us, we have no reason to use a hardboard (RV or not) as our 11' and 12' inflatables do it all for us. On the 11' board, we added more D rings so we can use a kayak seat as a comfort option on those long paddles. The kayak style paddling performance is excellent! We use a 2 piece kayak paddle strapped to the board and use as needed. I recently saw someone who lashed a insulated cooler to his inflatable and when tired, sits on it while getting a bit of rest. Lots of options. Best of luck to you and your company!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you Jim, good to hear, sounds like inflatables are ideal for you.

[@kathleenbrady8868]

Jim, what brand do you have? Did you buy a separate pump?

[@gloppy101]

@@kathleenbrady8868 I have a Body Glove Performer (Costco) and a Bote. The BG is a better board and made well. I also use it as a kayak by clipping on a kayak seat.

[@georgivelev77]

I experienced the lower performance of an iSup this weekend, however I paddled my iSup, the guy with the hardboard was quicker and moved with less effort - in still water. I mean, iSups are great for beginners (like me) to learn the basics, pivot turn and so on. iSups can be seen as a tool for workout too. But the slow speed takes out of the fun. I’ve decided to keep my iSup for another year before buying a hard board.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, the difference in speed is small but noticeable when you paddle next to someone with a hard board. You will also notice better handling and overall performance on a hard board.

[@Hairfire]

Great and informative. When putting the video together I'd match the audio volume of your voice with the outro, it blew my speakers at the end..

[@blueplanetsurf]

Sorry about that, thanks for the feedback🤙🏼

[@joetaylor486]

Sounds a pretty balanced opinion to my mind 😁

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏😎🤙🏼

[@SaveTheHedgehog]

I've bought an inflatable for 125 us dollar. Thanks for this information.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Good luck!🤞

[@AJ_D1]

He wanted to say 'shitty' pumps lol. Great vid

[@blueplanetsurf]

haha, yes you are right!

[@davemerchant8788]

Just wanted to say thanks for all your informative youtube vids, most helpful. I'm in the UK and am making the transition from surfing to iSUP. I've managed to incur some neural damage down my right leg (non-surf related) so surfing is becoming untenable (and I'm getting on in years a bit), so thought I'd give SUP a go to stay connected with the water. As with everything I do I end up never researching quite enough (went from zero to hero in one weekend with this :D ) and doing it all by myself. Anyway I've ended up with a Red Paddle Co. 10'7" Windsup, jack of all trades and master of none, but quality nevertheless. The idea of trying windsurfing out has always appealed and hopefully the board will also fulfil my touring / light surfing needs too. Here's wishing you a Happy New Year and that the 2020's will be your best decade yet ;)

[@blueplanetsurf]

That’s great, the 10’7 iSUP should be a great all round entry board for you. Happy New Year!

[@ernestaszvaigzdinas3200]

Dave Merchant Hi. I’m also looking into buying this or starboard windsup. Any thoughts after using it?

[@davemerchant8788]

Hi@@ernestaszvaigzdinas3200. I haven't had the best 5 months or so with my iSup. Probably been out about 6-9 times in less than perfect conditions - we had a horrendous winter over here in the UK with strong winds and rain (lots) and storms etc. Of course, like the rest of the world we are now in Corvid-19 lockdown so it'll be a while yet. Funnily enough today was absolutely ideal conditions BUT life's demands get in the way. When I have managed to get out on it I've enjoyed it but it is some effort to actually get out there whereas a hardboard has all the advantages of being immediately accessible.

[@olderthandadirt]

Well I watched AFTER I bought a cheap inflatable on line, my bad, but I think I will be okay as I will only be on still water. I live in on the 17th floor with a tiny elevator so I would not be too keen on bringing a solid one up and down the stairs 3 or 4 times a week. The tip I learned is I may keep it partially inflated over the winter to prevent those creases. I am excited to do something new now that I am 65 and retired.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Congratulations on your retirement. Sounds like you got a good board to get you into the sport, just get out and paddle!

[@morningmayan]

Thanks so much this was awesome!! New sub

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you, welcome to the channel! 🤙🏼

[@JetSurfingNation]

I love the inflatables iSUPs and they are easy to transport in a car but I guess more wobbly

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes. Convenience is a plus but performance and longevity are downsides of iSUPs

[@danielepoli5567]

Very informative and honest. Thanks

[@blueplanetsurf]

Glad you liked it!

[@travisbell1988]

After watching this i think I wanna graduate to a hard board. Ive only been paddle boarding for a year and the inflatable doesn't seem to maneuver as well in choppy seas as the hard boards ive seen other people using.

[@blueplanetsurf]

iSUPs are convenient but once you experience the performance of a hard board, that’s all you will want to use. 🤙🏼

[@diegoponte722]

ottimo video, chiaro e sincero. Grazie

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏😎🤙🏼

[@lisayist]

The best board is the board you use most. For me, who paddle most in whitewater or flat lake, hands down inflatable. I had to rescue one friend on a river trip. I just deflated my board, tied it on her board and kept paddling. It will be much harder if both of us had rigid boards. Plus, I save so much money on roof rack and gas (no pick up truck needed). I also have enough space to store my ski gear.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, it's true that inflatables have many advantages over hard boards. To rescue someone I would recommend towing the other person with your board, not deflating one of the boards.

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Lots of good information here, thank you.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you! 🙏😎🤙🏼

[@sarahtonen4873]

i would also add that inflatables are a great option for people living in 4 season countries, where you only get to paddle so many months of the year. it keeps your board extra safe for all those wintery months!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes the convenience of easy storage is a plus, no doubt.

[@johnmcdonough2858]

Very helpful non biased opinion

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏😎🤙🏼

[@renemary4109]

Exactly my thought. Excellent non biased review.

[@berlinng9625]

really good straight forward information

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏👌😎🤙🏼

[@BryceLovesTech]

We have high ceilings in our garage. I had my wife's board strapped up there. It fell to the concrete floor and shattered causing $650 worth of damage. We're going to transition to inflatable boards (Red Paddle Co) for durability

[@blueplanetsurf]

Well, yes, I inflatables are certainly much better when it comes to blunt force impact.

[@andrewbutcher3391]

Really helpful this....thanks.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Good to hear, Aloha!

[@padlnjones]

I have rafted the Grand canyon 3 times. If you did it on a SUP my helmet's off to you!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thank you, I did swim a lot as well, like at Lava Falls: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpKpdpt-fdWCgtE

[@daniell7420]

Thanks for the great, unbiased review. I will have to get an isup for practical reasons... are there any manufacturers you've heard good things about, or a (at least relatively) unbiased resource for reviews? Most sites I've found are flooded with amazon affiliate links or affiliate links to manufacturer's sites, which makes me very hesitant to buy any of them. I've gotten the best impression from Red Paddle, but they're a bit above my price range. Thanks for your help, in advance!

[@blueplanetsurf]

You're welcome. See end of video for my advice to go with a trusted SUP brand that will stand behind their product and uses heat fused seams. there is a lot of cheap stuff our there that probably won't last long.

[@blueplanetsurf]

One point I forgot to put in the video: Thinner iSUP's are better for surfing as the thinner rails work better for carving on the wave but the downside is more flex. Thin boards flex a lot even if inflated over 20 psi, the thicker the dropstich material is, the less the board flexes. The difference in flex between 4" thick and 6" thick iSUP's is dramatic. So for flat water, get a thick iSUP but for surfing thinner is better if you can deal with the flexing. Just don't expect an iSUP to get anywhere close to the performance of a good surf SUP hardboard. Tripstix, a new German business, is working on an inflatable board with tapered rails, and nose/ tail as well as vacuum chamber granule stringers, it looks promising but I think they will run into several issues with this construction as well: www.tripstix.de For now we are focused on hard boards and possibly two part hard boards for airline travel as we feel that the inflatable technology is just not there yet (for performance boards). Please visit this blog post for more details: www.blueplanetsurf.com/blogs/news/inflatable-sup-vs-hard-board-an-honest-comparison/

[@interspace1529]

Thanks for this video

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏😎🤙🏼

[@cbac9955]

Great Video! What about Modular boards? What is your opinion on those? I’ve seen a few videos on an Eddy… paddle boards.

[@blueplanetsurf]

I responded to this question in this episode: Blue Planet Live Show #3 - Every Wednesday at 7 am Hawaii time

[@brianmorrison9168]

Have you tried SUP Ball yet ? According to the internet, Stand Up Paddle Ball is a combination of netball, water polo, lacrosse, and rugby .. probably easier just to say football (soccer) on water. It has come to the UK now, from Australia, where the sport originated and looks like fun. Regards from the UK

[@blueplanetsurf]

I’ve heard it being called SUP polo. Some people do it here on Oahu but I have not tried it yet. I know Starboards makes a specific paddle blade that can be used to lift up, throw and catch a ball, much like a lacrosse stick. I think it might be hard to get enough people together as most of us are not used to paddling as a team sport. 🤙🏼

[@maxmeier532]

First time I used a sup it was a solid one. Was great fun. 2nd time was an ISUP. Hated it. Both times on flat water. The iSUP felt like I am on the water opposed to in the water with the solid board, which felt very natural and connected to the water. Boards were all rentals, I am assuming the rental shops dont use the worst boards, so I feel like you would always want a solid sup if there is any way you can deal with the reduced portability. There is stuff like the easy eddy out there, not sure how it compares in the real world.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, well said, a iSUP is convenient but you compromise performance. If you love to paddle, you just deal with transporting and storing the hard board, it’s not hard to strap it to your car. Even boards that you can take apart will flex at the joints and will not perform the same as a hard board. Unless you absolutely need it to travel, boards that pack down small will not perform as well as a good ‘ol epoxy board.🤙🏼

[@mindofown]

excellent review

[@blueplanetsurf]

Mahalo!

[@1oboeajusco586]

wonderfully distracting footage going on at the end, that looks like FUN!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Glad you liked it🤙🏼

[@ballzybaits4414]

Been looking into a SUP for fishing...Thought about the isup but, is it stable enough to fish on? One of the best review btw. as you mentioned, a lot of other videos I watched are promotional which is useless for me. thanks!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thanks for your comment. If you are using the board in calm water, an inflatable could work. Go wide and stable so you can stand while casting and fishing without being wobbly. I would say at least 35" or wider depending on your weight and height. Check out BOTE, they have both hard and iSUP's that are made specifically for fishing. I don't have much expertise in the area, otherwise, I would make a video about fishing SUP's. I would also consider the risk of puncturing an iSUP since you have sharp hooks and knives when fishing. If you live in a hot climate, an epoxy board will probably last you longer as iSUP's can degrade quickly in the heat. Also check out this cool catamaran by Live Watersports: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npLCn5Zupbycbc0

[@ballzybaits4414]

@@blueplanetsurf awesome! thanks for the reply. really helpful. I'll look into the link you provided.

[@ZanyWabbit]

i have no vehicle for a rigid paddle board, was going to get an ISUP.. but this video has put me off one.. thanks

[@blueplanetsurf]

Hard boards are difficult to transport if you don’t have a car but if there’s a will there’s a way, right? 😎🤙🏼

[@ZanyWabbit]

@@blueplanetsurf no, not really

[@Sassypantsdance]

First time SUP er here. I'm really having a hard time standing up. Like I can't...at all. I've tried everything. I have an inflatable one. My friends can stand on it, but they are shorter. I can't go buy another board so I'm a bit sad because I think the one I have is too narrow. I am having fun paddling around the lake, but I would like to be able to stand.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, sounds like the board might be too narrow for you but try to go out in very calm conditions and watch this video with detailed tips for finding your balance and standing up:

[@blueplanetsurf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4KUioiqqNalsKM

[@outdoorbloke1]

Love the Waikiki Hilton village :0)

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes! The lagoon is a great place to paddle! 🤙🏼

[@mctwain5319]

Thank you so many fucking bullshitfake reviews you're the only honest guy on here that actually isn't paying to sell some inflatable board to make a dollar.thank you !

[@blueplanetsurf]

Haha, no we sell hard boards instead 😎🤙🏼

[@nielsvanwessem8164]

Unreal fun!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes! 🤙🏼

[@geoffreyyoste45]

The inflatable’s work great in Mississippi!!! I hope everyone realizes that it’s a joke, I do live in Mississippi and I do ride inflatable. But I really would love to be on a hard board in Hawaii!!! 🤙🤙🤙😎

[@blueplanetsurf]

Many people buy iSUPs for the convenience but then realize they should have bought a hard board for the better performance . Either way, have fun in Mississippi! 🌏🏄‍♀️😎🤙🏼

[@WB_APARTAMENTY]

Very interesting and logic video What are the best brands for iSUP boards ?

[@blueplanetsurf]

As mentioned towards the end, I recommend well known brands that stand behind their products and Red Paddle Co that is focused on iSUPs.

[@CuiCharlestrustboats]

contact with me please

[@ClayTallStories]

A good non bias run down

[@blueplanetsurf]

👍😎🤙🏼

[@donnymartin2483]

What about inflatable foil boards? Looking for a winging/sup board thats not to heavy to lift off. Info on these is very hard to find. Have you tried one with a foil?

[@blueplanetsurf]

Thanks for the comment. I do mention foil iSUPs in the video if you watch the whole thing. My concern is mostly with the flex, which is really bad to have in a foil board. Since foil boards are relatively small and can be checked in, I would not consider an inflatable for foiling.

[@jackarkel2051]

For me I can't have a stiff board, I live in the city without a car. The only way I can SUP is through and inflatable. I wish I could have a stiff since I am overweight and I should need the extra stiffness for it to be easier. But rather having a challenge than not being able to paddle at all!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Agreed, just get out there and enjoy what you got! 🤙🏼

[@chaveznury]

are there any air compressors in the market to connected to the car to inflate the inflatable boards ? because I have an air compressor but is mostly for tires I don't know if there is an adapter for the board

[@blueplanetsurf]

Tire inflators usually don’t pump enough volume to inflate an iSUP. There are several 12V pumps on the market, I don’t know enough about them to make a recommendation.

[@melb1260]

Do you have any videos on how to deflate and pack up an ISUP? Mine has a fin box and I'm not sure how to roll it up properly

[@blueplanetsurf]

We don’t and we no longer sell iSUPs, best to check with the manufacturer if it did not come with instructions. 🤙🏼

[@melb1260]

@@blueplanetsurf the instruction booklet was very minimal. Thanks

[@alanhill9828]

Inflatables are also more comfortable for kneeling for longish spells (going upwind etc) and having the occasional snooze.......

[@blueplanetsurf]

Agreed! I have also used them as a mattress for camping on the beach (partially inflated)

[@clayguinard3651]

What part of Hawaii do you live in now keep in mind I don't know anything about Hawaii just curious thought about moving there a few years ago still made me do it

[@blueplanetsurf]

Honolulu, it’s a beautiful place to live but expensive. 🤙🏼

[@zeusistheone4043]

I’m planning on getting one if I can and have been looking at inflatable ones which ones would you recommend

[@blueplanetsurf]

Please watch the end of the video for my recommendations

[@crosisofborg5524]

I live in a beach front condo so the inflatable is invaluable when it comes to storage.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes the small size when deflated is the biggest advantage

[@gs637]

Good stuff!

[@blueplanetsurf]

👍😎🤙🏼

[@MorbidOrangeCat]

How do you feel about the SeaEagle Fishing iSUP? Not sure if I should go with a hard board instead. The Sea Eagle is 12x3.4 & appears like its pretty solid with little flex.

[@MorbidOrangeCat]

wow I didn't even realize you are a manufacturer. Very honest review thank you. I'll be sure to check yours out as well right now!

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, sorry, we no longer sell iSUP so are not the best to ask for advice on them.

[@blueplanetsurf]

But check out our 11’6 x 31.5 Touring model: www.blueplanetsurf.com/blue-planet-tuf-tech-sup.html?id=36502791&quantity=1

[@sarahtonen4873]

i'm in Toronto Canada, and with closed borders and a small paddle board community here, my best option is an iROCKER. Is this a reputable company? i'm a total newb

[@blueplanetsurf]

I have no experience with their boards, sorry.

[@laurenboyd4684]

Which is better for stability for a senior beginner?

[@blueplanetsurf]

A hard board has less flex so it feels more steady on the water but stability comes mostly from the width of the board, so get a wide board. Watch this video on how to choose the best board for getting started: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGmZXoOIotyNn7c

[@PRS792]

Is it dangerous to use a rigid sup that does not have SELF-VENTILATING VALVE during the summer months if it is very hot? Could the table be damaged? Thank you

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, you should avoid leaving hard and inflatable boards in the sun as the heat can damage the board, see: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGbSfZ6Mlq6Xg5I

[@PRS792]

@@blueplanetsurf Thank you very much. They recently gave me a rigid board but it has no valve and now I think I should not use it during the summer months.

[@Randy_84]

What inflatable board would you recommend?

[@blueplanetsurf]

Watch to the end for recommendations. for more details: www.blueplanetsurf.com/blogs/news/inflatable-sup-vs-hard-board-an-honest-comparison/ Our recommendations: Get a well made inflatable board from a reputable manufacturer, or choose a hard board for better performance in surf or rough water. Red Paddle Co. only makes iSUP's and has a good reputation, generally speaking you get what you pay for.

[@manhonlee7691]

👏 👍 👏

[@blueplanetsurf]

🙏😎🤙🏼

[@Qwistofuh]

Can you put a big dog on an isup or will it pop from the dogs nails?

[@blueplanetsurf]

Dogs nails will not pop an iSUP but they can rip up the deck pad. To paddle with a dog, get a board with extended deck pad, like our Tuf Tech models: www.blueplanetsurf.com/blue-planet-tuf-tech-sup.html

[@lapatkasentivkas1161]

By a chance you sell the cool looking fish vinyl? can you make a video how to apply them to inflatables? and where can i buy the stickers? I really like how the fish looks and would like some applied to my inflatables if that is possible?

[@blueplanetsurf]

We do sell the stickers but they don’t stick well on iSUPs

[@blueplanetsurf]

www.blueplanetsurf.com/search/Sticker/

[@lapatkasentivkas1161]

@@blueplanetsurf what if i use some strong glue? possible? maybe the glue for d rings people use? or is it possible to make new strong sticker i can buy in future? thanks you i will look the link now.

[@lapatkasentivkas1161]

@@blueplanetsurf i meant to say a rubber fish that can be glued permanently to my isup, like in front or any empty space. But thanks you i might get some for car since they dont stick well to isup.

[@blueplanetsurf]

Sorry, we don’t have anything that you could glue onto an iSUP.

[@clayguinard3651]

Do you make your own paddle board (hard board)?

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes, all the boards shown in the video are our Blue Planet boards.

[@clayguinard3651]

How much you selling your isup for? How long are the options

[@blueplanetsurf]

We have them on sale for $599, only have a few left, 10’6, 11’, 14’, call our shop at 808 5967755 if interested.

[@peterrusznak6165]

What's wrong with pumping it up? It's just a bit physical warm-up, nothing unpleasant, embrace it. Deflating, however is an entirely different cup of tea.. that's what I would happily relinquish..

[@blueplanetsurf]

True, it’s only as hard as you think it is.

[@cosmicwatchmaker9353]

Hi how would a dog go with an inflatable? Would their claws puncture the board? thanks

[@blueplanetsurf]

ISUPs work fine for cruising with dogs, the claws will not puncture the skin.

[@sfbuczak]

What sup is the board with the fish bone logo?

[@blueplanetsurf]

All the Blue Planet boards have the fish bone logo. Tell me at what time it shows in the video and I’ll let you know.🤙🏼

[@ajstayer9308]

Cheap alternative to the electric pump for the majority of the pumping is an air mattress pump

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yes but it won’t achieve the 15 psi pressure you need at a minimum so your board does not feel like an air mattress

[@ajstayer9308]

@@blueplanetsurf yeah it will get the bulk of it though then you finish it off with the hand pump air mattress runs between 5 and 10 psi the pump is good for about 9 so what if you gotta hand pump the last 6lb

[@myperspective5091]

🌅😀👍Waikiki!👍😀🌅

[@blueplanetsurf]

Yup, this was filmed at the Hilton Hawaiian lagoon 🤙🏼

[@bigd3721]

Can’t I just use a twin inflatable air mattress on the water?

[@blueplanetsurf]

haha, I doubt it would be stiff enough to stand on but I think you should try it!

[@vkhiev]

If you have a pickup truck or large suv go with hard board last long more durable save time to get on water 💦

[@blueplanetsurf]

Or any car really. 🤙🏼

[@GustavoDCarro]

Keep the old classic watches on the market. Big1

[@blueplanetsurf]

??

[@GustavoDCarro]

@@blueplanetsurf 100 %

[@GustavoDCarro]

@@blueplanetsurf hard to explain it