Why is this Brand New Plane Being Retired Already?

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[@H3liosphan]

Just to note it doesn't mean the planes will be scrapped and broken up, they'll be sold to an airline somewhere in the world where it makes sense to use them. Would be insane to scrap them.

[@cparkes92]

Someone with existing E190 E2's will likely scoop them up

[@johnhopkins4920]

Pretty sure Noel didn’t say or suggest these planes would be scrapped.

[@mousesunday]

But makes it sound like they are getting scrapped sure gets more clicks

[@VictheSecret]

They won't be sold by Astana because they don't own them. They're leased from Azorra Aviation who will simply take them back. What they do with them is up to them but it's more than likely that they'll look for another customer to lease them to.

[@SoCalMan13]

@@johnhopkins4920 Actually at 2:59 he says "not long for this world". Not "not long for this airline".

[@gobuflo]

I just flew the E195-E2 with Porter in Canada this past weekend, YVR-YYZ and back. Great flight and great aircraft. So much better to fly 2-2 as a couple in comfortable seats than on a 3-3 A320 or 737.

[@bobwilson758]

Roger ! Yes sir -

[@InfinityBS]

I would’ve taken a 777 to YVR, i’ve never flown on it but it’s my favourite plane

[@emjones55343]

Noel, you tell us to listen to the sounds of the engine and then cover up the sound with annoying music.

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

Agree 100 %

[@davidschad6994]

Agreed! The music was annoying for a large portion of this video.

[@FireStriker_]

Music that looped and drives you mad. Sometimes I couldn’t even hear Noel over that stupid tune

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

@@davidschad6994 thanks 😊

[@NVNRy93]

Exactly

[@neilsheppard6673]

I once flew to Paris from Cardiff on an E195 operated by Flybe (about a 45 - 50 minute flight from memory). I loved it, it was like a private bizjet! Plenty of room, nice comfortable seats and, I felt, was a lot quieter than other aircraft.

[@bhalilu]

Very important information that is drowned by unnecessary music

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

Agree 100 %

[@hexagon250]

good thing i had a chance to ride one of these in brazil.. azul has a couple of E195-E2's in their fleet

[@jimhankinson4428]

very interesting, and some beautiful shots. When I flew to Astana on Belavia a few years ago from Ky'iv and was checking in, and said I was going to Astana, the lovely agent looked at me with mock severity and said 'Nur-sultan', and then smiled. A nice touch.

[@Ldnflyer]

Recently flew an E190 from LCY to AMS with BA. Impressed by the amount of leg room you get plus nice big windows. Would happily fly on one again.

[@Boffin55]

You can fly the E195E2 here in Canada. Porter use them on transcon services from Toronto to Edmonton/Calgary/Vancouver

[@joannharrington2279]

Starting off my Sunday with a new video from Noel. What a great airline. They seem to have an airline they can be proud to have in their country. Despite the chaos at boarding the rest of the flight was pretty seamless. Have a safe trip and I hope your next video is aboard a train. See you next Sunday.

[@hawktb9]

A more sensible option for Air Astana would be to include the A220 in their fleet as a more direct replacement to the E-190 E2. If they had already decided on the A320 to do the job, then all is well. The A220 would be far more efficient from a cost perspective for those light loads since they won't have to worry about selling more than 1/2 of the seats on the A320 to make a profit as they would with selling 1/2 the seats on the A220. Otherwise, that is a really cool flight you enjoyed and sad to see that those amazing birds are getting kicked out of the fleet so soon.

[@amirreal7984]

Not necessary to add A220. As most domestic route operated by FlyArystan.

[@CheapBastard1988]

They both have those unreliable P&W engines though.

[@craigfischer2240]

Great video as always, however the background music gets a monotonous!

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

Agree 100 %😊

[@kyle604]

You'll have to come up and try the E195-E2 in Canada with Porter Airlines! The service with Porter is a whole new level with complimentary wine and beer on domestic flights!

[@QuicknStraight]

What a cheerful girl at the Starbucks! 😂 I like the E2 series. Flew on an E195-E2, with Binter Canarias, few years back. It's slightly bigger, with about 140 seats. I read that Scoot is getting 9 of the E190-E2, on lease, coming into service next year.

[@RobertSK931]

Hi Noel, Always Nice to watch your new videos. I even re-watch a lot. If you try business at SAS A350-900 from LAX (would be so cool to see) you can fly this and more Embraer with SAS since they bought 6 (or) 8 from FlyBe. They are painted in Norwich in SAS livery. Just a few left until they all are in the air. They have premium economy in the front and if you fly from Stockholm to London (or longer than this distance) you Will receive a breakfast to dinner depending on when you Take the flights. I have not yet flewn this one, but I cant cant wait for it. Have a great new week over there, Greetings to your family, from a snowy northern Sweden🙂👋

[@noelphilips]

Thank you!

[@gaijinsan5809]

Royal Jordanian has the E-190 E2 as well, it's very nice and they have a more typical 'business class' up front (dare I call it that, but it's like AA, UA, DL First on the regional jets). But the E2 has much bigger overhead bins, so is quite a functional plane. I like flying them on RJ.

[@RemixedVoice]

I have had only positive experiences with Embraer planes, it's a shame this new model is having problems. Kudos to the airline for taking safety seriously though, as well as their wonderful kind flight crew.

[@jwenting]

My main gripe with them is that the seats tend to be very low to the ground, at least that is how KLM has them configured.

[@helloworldstein]

@@jwenting Might just be the seats KLM chose? Im 6ft5 (~2m) and I have not had an issue when I flew with them on Porter airlines on my trip to Canada. I did have issues with seat height on older Bombardier planes though.

[@AndreA-ke2id]

​@@jwenting Not when you're in the air. Just saying 😂

[@michaelreeves8164]

Particularly QANTAS.

[@hugoborghifilho8702]

THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER WITH EMBRAER'S E-2 PLANES OR ANY OTHER MODEL. THE SEATING COMFORT DEPENDS ON THE AIRLINE'S CONFIGURATION. THIS PHILLIPS GUY MUST BE PAYED OFF BY AIRBUS TO DENIGRATE EMBRAER'S EXCELLENT REPUTATION WORLDWIDE.

[@Vampire.Vegan.]

Music's a bit loud and annoying on this one :(

[@stevejones6174]

Totally agree.

[@michaelsmyth2712]

Embraer has my favourite take off roll after the A330-900 NEO. You can really feel the power to size ratio on them. Fair play to Air Astana sticking to their guns in regards safety though, not a cheap decision to make!

[@jet4926]

I've read that no one wants the A330 neo either...

[@rais1953]

Air Astana can teach Australia's main airlines a thing or two about domestic service. Amazing.

[@LiLi-ps5vb]

US airlines too. They will literally throw your bag of crappy snacks at you. A bottle of water and a pillow at each seat? Never, no matter what class on a domestic flight.

[@danmcm8082]

​@@LiLi-ps5vbat least there is still bag to carry. Qantas just thanos snap your bag out of existence here

[@Zay.Loves.]

Ik this isn’t a main airline but when I flew Rex they gave us water that had all sorts of things in it, it tasted nothing like water. The biscuits they gave us just crumbled when we held it.

[@rais1953]

@@Zay.Loves. That's disappointing. Rex has yet to extend its interstate flights to Perth but I was hoping that its arrival here would bring an improvement in service.

[@Davidcallard]

​@Zay.Loves. Probably best to remain ignorant about where that water comes from! Same for the biscuits I'd reckon....

[@peterbilttrucker83]

Incredible service for a regional flight for sure. Air Astana clearly goes above and beyond the norm.

[@WBTravels]

@5:46 @noel Phillips | We avgeeks call this the "wookie Howl" & it can be found on all PW1100G engines, notably found on the A220, E190-E2, A320Neo A319 Neo & A321N and occasionally on the 330 neo.

[@Planestrains-d5e]

Well… except E190-E2 engines are PW1900G, not 1100G. 1100s are for 320 Family. 1500s for 220s & 1900s for E190s. Get your geek on, baby!

[@MSimmonsAZ]

I fly on Jetblue 190's. I like them a lot. I am disappointed they aren't better sellers, but I understand they aren't quite what airlines need.

[@FireStriker_]

Noel, I loved the video but could you please mind muting music for take off so we can hear the engine or lowering the volume when your speaking so we can hear you.

[@markstedman4592]

This run of videos is so much better. Very much the 'old' Noel back in his roots. Loved it. Thanks.

[@noelphilips]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@kdbsuff9625]

As previously noted, the audio mix is poorer than the usual very high standard - the music was too intrusive. You pointed out the sound of the engines and then slapped a huge soundtrack on top. Finally I would be careful of the music track selected, you could fall into the "stereotype" mode. We noted that on one or two previous trips to the northern Asia.

[@FireStriker_]

Great to hear I’m not the only one. The same 6 or 7 notes on repeat was driving me spare not to mention the poor audio mix.

[@sebinamuwanga]

The E 190 is a cool aircraft and very economical. Just like any other aircraft, it makes sense for some airlines to operate it and makes no sense for others. It all depends on the airline strategy, targets and projections. Are those owned or leased units? I found it a little strange that you only climbed to FL 280 for a flight of that duration. Thanks for the video and see you on the next one.

[@edsmale]

Turbulence, favorable winds, airspace restrictions, all sorts of possible reasons for a not so common cruise altitude

[@sebinamuwanga]

@@edsmale Thanks. Also, failure to meet RVSM requirements (I think) since RVSM airspace begins at FL 290.

[@walterfillingham]

I like the attention to detail, the meal served on a proper cloth table mat, nicely presented meal, hot towel etc..

[@gilessb]

Loving these trips in Central Asia - the culture is interesting and the scenery is amazing

[@etstudios]

I've flown on E2's with KLM and Swiss, both were great experiences. Being a newer aircraft meant the cabins were very clean and modern feeling.

[@WBTravels]

@0:53 Aerolineas Argentinas just bought more than 15 E190-E2, renewing their entire Air Austral (regional) fleet. Set to enter service next year!

[@tahseen812]

I flew on one of them last year (it was also a premium economy) from Almaty to Astana, amazing experience!

[@Leaf13]

Noel, I love your videos, but enough with the cheesy gypsy background music, please!

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

Agree 150%

[@beachnmountains]

I remember a few years ago he had the funky club music. It was good

[@singingbeaker]

Noel should definitely check out Porter Airlines and their E2s!

[@galaxy98765]

The music is nice but too loud..

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

I agree and find it annoying. 😊

[@martinaltmann4031]

No Loo review this time?

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

@martinaltmann4031 thank God. Those are unnecessary.

[@horseathalt7308]

@@clarkmadrosen1780 They are Noel's trademark.

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

@horseathalt7308 hope he changes that.....

[@cbartlett]

That teaser at the end! Cannot wait for the next adventure -- a rail journey across Kazakhstan?

[@ATLOffroad]

Last time I had a hot meal on a regional jet was on a no defunct Vietnamese airline call Air Mekong. They flew around Canadair CRJ-900s and served hot, oven cooked, meals on many of their routes.

[@frankchan4272]

Many things has changed in the name of COVID as many regional Asian airlines served hot food on hops. I flew in flight from Hong Kong to Taipei in 2018 that flight was only 90 minutes & they served hot food with real metal utensils. That was on Air China. I just flew on United from SFO to ORD & they don’t serve food no more.

[@WilliamGriffis-f2u]

Love the service provided Astana. Nice planes. It does make sense to get rid of them if it doesn’t fit their service model. Great video as a always Noel.

[@alexpiptom]

Nice video. Not so sure about the overly loud, repetitive , cheesy cliche “Kazakhstan” music though.

[@DAVEVIKASARATOV]

High five!

[@jemand8462]

The music is WAAAAY too loud in this video.

[@jemand8462]

and annoying af

[@deirdrenugent1887]

You really don't need it noel

[@davidgarrett9711]

Such a wonderful meal presentation.

[@ecashman]

I have had the pleasure of flying the Air Astana E-195 E2 from Astana to Öskemen, and thought it was a lovely aircraft -- quite comfortable and very quiet (also just a beautiful-looking regional jet) . I also must say that Air Astana has some of the best service I have ever experienced on an airplane, their flight crews are absolutely fantastic, their food is better than most other flights I've taken, and the extra amenities they provide such as quality in-flight entertainment, cushions, travel cleaning products, etc. are a great touch. Now that I know they are being retired, I am very happy to have had the opportunity to fly such a nice plane with such a quality airline. Although they have admittedly had issues with the E2 jets, I think the biggest reason they are retiring them is to streamline their fleet and improve fleet commonality. For what they are trying to achieve, the E2 does seem superfluous. I hope these modern jets will go to another airline that needs the type so they can continue serving passengers for years to come, because I really am a big fan of how they fly and the 2 abreast seating configuration.

[@teazerfemi]

Thanks my fantastic Noel

[@JohnDoe-lt4kl]

I flew Embraer E190 or very similar on Lufthansa between MUC and CGN, KLM uses them as "cityhoppers". I would not be surprised if that aircraft will be used in Europe after its Kazakh life.

[@Matityahu755]

Liked the trip report, but gotta say Noel, the music didn't work for me on this occasion.

[@willbeonekenobi]

As far as i am aware Airlink in South Africa flies Embraer e190's to St. Helena for those interested.

[@chelseajacques_]

indeed so. Airlink has 26 of the -190's currently and adding more. Also recently got a couple of -195's that formerly flew for Belavia(two are in still a hybrid livery of their former operator)

[@rais1953]

Yes. And the aircraft flying to St Helena have their software especially programmed for the unique conditions at the St Helena airport.

[@WorldWide_Dom]

Yep they fly once a week.

[@xkristianx4747]

A very good service for a short flight Noel. I enjoyed watching again thank you.

[@noelphilips]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@xkristianx4747]

@@noelphilips like always 👍

[@Luis-zl2mn]

i have flown in the e2 here in brazil, Azul are the owner of all embraer's planes here and the aircraft is just amazing

[@fitshamer]

Noel going a little bananas with the background music on this one. Tone it back a little maybe?

[@FireStriker_]

Yeah we don’t need music all the time. Not only was it over done, it was too loud drowning out his voice, played over the engine sound we were supposed to listen to and it was perpetually on loop driving us insane

[@janellek21]

Astana's history: Tselinograd, then Aqmola, then Astana, then Nursultan, then Astana again.

[@emjones55343]

Do new airplanes depreciate a large amount in value after their first flight like new cars or is the depreciation more linear?

[@renardfranse]

good question

[@VictheSecret]

Much more linear, and depreciation is costed into the whole of life costs for the aircraft over the planned operating timescale.

[@plutoamor]

Helvetic has the E2-190 which fly for Swiss, so you can fly them in Europe too..Plus the E2-195 that KLM also have n Binter Canarias, TUIfly

[@aditbajnath]

Was on a embraer 190/195 last year, economu seat on lot polish... as a person who is 180, all looked good

[@stevegiannoulis_official]

the Starbucks employee was not happy being on-camera...LOL

[@davidbalcon8726]

You’ll have to come up to Canada again and try Porter’s version of this plane on one of its new long haul routes. Much more leg room in their enhanced economy rows, either the enhanced service (pseudo PE) or extra legroom seats. They start flying out of LAX and SFO next month to YYZ. (Then try their Q400s on short haul from the city centre airport.) As for the full meal service, just flew AY from HEL to WAW in business on their regional E190 and had a similar 3-course hot dinner and drinks in under 2-hours.

[@oilersman95]

Noel, if you’re looking to fly the E2 in North America, Porter Airlines is flying them regularly in Canada and beginning flights to Florida and California.

[@bobwilson758]

Really - all the way to Florida ? Wow. Ok - that is a good haul .

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Thank you for sharing your cool, amazing and crazy trip.

[@noelphilips]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@LMays-cu2hp]

I like your reviews and you have made me laugh sometimes. Nice☺☺

[@yohanmaduranga1]

Uzbekistan airways recently got some brand new LET L-410 s . I think those were used for domestic flights. Try it if you got a chance.( that's a very rare thing)

[@VictheSecret]

These aircraft are not being 'retired', just handed back to the leasing company that owns them, Azorra.

[@barry4666]

Ahh that hot towel felt good, thank you Noel

[@GlennnMatthews]

Hi Noel, hope you and your family are safe and well. Your videos are incredibly well produced and though out. Well I guess as they say, EMBRAER does stand for Every Mechanical Breakdown Requires An Electrical Rectification 🤣. The PW1900G is a geared turbo fan, hence the G at the end of the model number. This is why they make a peculiar "whale sound" during spool up. Being a geared wide core fan blade, and the tips not exceeding the speed of sound ( only spinning at 240 m/s ) , the ECU has a different spool up regime. There is slightly more lag, whilst hearing the gas generator accelerate first. Thermodynamics is rather complicated though its best put down to the sound of the air flowing through the intake stator blades as they change AOA (angle of attack), thus not inducing a compressor stall and the fan blades having a lower mach crit number. This is also the same with the 320 NEO and 73 MAX, having the LEAP engine.

[@bobwilson758]

The 321 is very loud on t/o and climb out ! Sounds a bit uncomfortable actually . I worry to much .

[@aeroman5239]

The whale sound is caused by harmonic resonance within the combustor portion of the gas turbine. Pratt plans to address this issue with a revised combustor design in the GTF Advantage package, which is the next planned revision of the engine.

[@DanielByrnes-t6v]

I'm glad I live in the US, especially the east coast.

[@ant647448336]

I remember when they were being ferried from Brazil to Kazakhstan via Malaga.

[@MrAerocomposites]

I like your informative friendly manner, almost like I am seated next to you.

[@noelphilips]

I appreciate that!

[@markuskuhl1376]

the Starbucks girl couldn´t stop smiling

[@Vonononie]

I felt her soul leave her when he asked for a coffee. I wonder how many times per day she has to ask “which coffee?”!

[@JordansAlwaysOntheGo]

People in this part of the world don’t smile in a lot of situations like how we do in the west. Being in that region twice has confirmed that lol. The logic I’ve heard is that if they don’t know you, they don’t have a reason to smile at you as it’s considered weird.

[@ronald3921]

Noticed that as well. Flight crew had obviously learned to smile as part of customer service

[@katout75]

A meal like that is unheard of on US domestic flights for economy and premium economy seating. Looks pretty good!

[@SEOTeamBerlin]

interesting video, *but* the *music* is really *annoying* and at least 10dB *too loud*

[@MrMakeDo]

The background music is a bit loud

[@clarkmadrosen1780]

Yes and very annoying 😊

[@beckymunro2071]

I really enjoy your videos. It really does feel almost as you are there.

[@noelphilips]

I appreciate that!

[@alexmunday439]

I've been on multiple Air Astana E190s, including the one with the snow leapord nose, an animal native to Khazakhstan

[@sjoerdkrempel7279]

Find it funny that you say the whaling sound is soothing, try working in it for a couple days. it really starts to hurt your ears constantly hearing them spool up. (im an aircraft mechanic on KLM cityhopper)

[@culcune]

With Halloween coming up and you being in Kazakhstan (and being British) you know you have to put on a 'Borat' costume and walk around a bit.

[@JackHackett1]

😂

[@patriciafuchs5970]

Outstanding service. Seems like a nice plane.

[@erich930]

I've never flown on an E-2, but I'm not surprised you got the same service on this flight as you would on an A320. In the US, regional jets are flown on behalf of the main carrier by regional airlines. For example, you would see an American Airlines flight number on your boarding pass, but the plane and crew are from Republic Airways, therefor you get Republic Airways service on board instead of American. Air Astana, I presume, operates their E-190E2s themselves, therefor you get the same service as on their A320s. And if they plan on using A320s on their E-190E2 routes in the future, that makes perfect sense.

[@erichfriedli8151]

Love your videos😃 All the best - stay safe

[@noelphilips]

Glad you like them!

[@nikolaykumchev9530]

Was it the same aircraft that had the infamous flight control incident in Portugal a few years ago? P4-KCJ

[@WorldWide_Dom]

Love an Embraer the planes for me have always been nice (airline dependent of course). Air Astana have always been an airline I have been interested in flying myself. Great video again Noel.

[@ThatIsJustCrazyTalk]

Got the background music a bit loud don’t ya?

[@uzmaahmed.catmoon]

Air Astana seems like such a gem! Shame about the E190 but it sounds like it's for the best. Another blinder Noel!

[@bobwilson758]

I enjoy your journey’s . Wow. You get out Yonder ! I travel by Spad sometimes - Ha !

[@sightsandsoundsofaviation]

I am not too familiar with Embraer specifications, but without winglets. Interesting.

[@AledPritchard]

I’m a vegetarian, so I’d be intrigued to know whether my dietary preferences would be catered for with some of these lesser known airlines. I can’t get enough of your videos Noel! 👌🏻

[@RussianSevereWeatherVideos]

Most airlines allow you to specially order a vegetarian meal ahead of time at no cost. If a meal option is offered with your ticket.

[@jonathanlovo7391]

i like the video very much Noel keep it up

[@noelphilips]

Thanks! 😃

[@traciewinn8919]

I miss watching your video's Sunday mornings (ish) when cooking beef and Yorkshire pud, since you have moved to Texas, lol, it's an after lunch watch these days but it is what it is 😁

[@nickbangkok3365]

Nice one Noel! Although I'm slightly disappointed you went all the way to Kazakhstan and had no time for any Scat.

[@rilloman]

Good day. I'm not sure if you'll read this or be able to answer me..but the business call seat of AA 737s.. what is better in your opinion..the first 1 row or the last one before economy starts???

[@noelphilips]

I tend to prefer the last one before economy.

[@rilloman]

@@noelphilips thanks for that... i am booked on the first 2 seats but will move back to the last if available

[@rilloman]

Btw love the vids you put out

[@Mlgraham22]

Astana is a major sponsor of a top-tier professional cycling team in Europe so nice to get a glimpse of the hometown. Not sure what they get out of it, but they’ve been doing it for years. I guess given your over the top cabin treatment they’ve got money to burn. Oil and or gas?

[@bardo0007]

I need to visit Kazakhstan some day, it's the 9th largest country in the world. So much to explore!

[@Kebria]

did other major airlines like KLM encounter major issues with E2's?

[@Oduck22]

11:37 that is unbelievable! Looks better than nearly every US carrier catering for most long haul, but a snack box should be plenty for 5+ hours from “Sea to Shining Sea”🎶🍗

[@RR-vz2ld]

The girl giving you your coffee before the flight acted like you were troubling her.

[@lopc1907]

He films crookedly leaning against the window to give the impression that the space is bad for the passenger, but anyone who knows the plane knows that it is very spacious...

[@Eddievilar]

Hi, Joel You’ve got the music too loud when you are speaking… in some occasions. Nice video!

[@elaine4498]

I love your videos and eagerly await them every week but have to agree with many others music very loud, distracts from what you ars saying .

[@dennisalexandercabico9481]

For a regional flight ✈️ that offers a great meal😲😲👍👍.. Stay Safe Always, Noel 🙏🙏 .. Next vlog a Train Transit 💪💪👍👍..

[@LTWILTON]

What a lovely meal, and hot towel -- sometimes it's the little things that make the most impression! 🛫🛬

[@noelphilips]

So true!

[@davidrussell7183]

I've agonised over your background music for ages, but after watching today's video it was doing my head in, so may I suggest that you either lower, or ditch altogether, that repetitive Eastern European type music! Another great vlog Noel, thanks.

[@FireStriker_]

Really hope he does something about it. Couldn’t hear the lovely engine over it let alone his fun facts about where he was arriving

[@CCRipberger]

Is Embraer having a tough time selling to airlines? I know the company had some trouble a few years ago. It seems most airlines try for Boeing or Airbus airliners now and rarely anything else except in small, niche markets.

[@michaelf.h8507]

What a great airline and the food looks good too . Nice trip report btw, It might make more sense for them to use A 220's given their long range and low seat mile costs.

[@noelphilips]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@howardshillingford6939]

Wow! Sweet and simple. Thanks. Stay safe and happy travels. 🛫 ✈️ 🛬

[@noelphilips]

Thanks! 😃