Informed Sergeant DEFENDS Citizen From Corrupt Cops!

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Part One
Original video: • Chalk Artist Wrongfull...
Lakeythe Poet’s channel: / @lakeyproductions
Leon Valley apology: bit.ly/3WpkCFq
Sources:
Articles-
bit.ly/3Sd6yvY
bit.ly/3y5qaeT
bit.ly/3Sd6Fro
Tex. Pen. Code § 28.08- bit.ly/3WqUp9v
Leon Valley Ord. § 8.03.033- bit.ly/4bJ3AGN
Leon Valley Ord. § 8.03.031- bit.ly/3zUTAg8
Tex. Pen. Code § 28.03- bit.ly/3Ws13MA
Mahoney v. Doe- bit.ly/3zJ131T
42 U.S.C. § 1983- bit.ly/3aYfEYO
Babb v. Dorman- bit.ly/3y2THWw
United States v. Saunders- bit.ly/4f7NHwb
Part Two
Original video: • Cops RETALIATE - DETAI...
James Madison Audits’ channel: / @jamesmadisonaudits
Sources:
Fla. Stat. § 316.130- bit.ly/38q6ORz
Fla. Stat. § 901.151- bit.ly/3rxIgNV
Copeland v. Bradenton Police Department- bit.ly/3VJKiMN
Florida v. Bostick- bit.ly/3FOrhQr
Schneckloth v. Bustamonte- bit.ly/44YoLm3
United States v. Chavez- bit.ly/3XjCoL1

[@LakeyProductions]

I'M THE CHALK ARTIST I've been harassed by the police over a dozen times since receiving my settlement. Had one officer jump out of his cruiser cursing me, one that unlawfully cuffed me before giving me a Criminal Mischief ticket, and then a Criminal Trespassing where I got locked up 20 hours and the arresting officer lost my wallet, oh, and just recently got a new citation for "Possession of a graffiti implement" I most commonly post on instagram since I struggle to get traction on most of the other platforms. Thanks for covering my story and being sure to provide people with the information to see more!

[@LakeyProductions]

The even more messed up part about the chalk is there were 19,000 cars stolen in San Antonio over the past 12 months. We have a fentanyl epidemic and feces covered neighborhoods...they can't stop the fent dealers or the car thieves, but they have time to stop sidewalk chalk.

[@sauvagess]

Commenting so this gets pushed up the comment list.

[@leebrock4783]

ATA should pin this comment.

[@shirleybain8070]

Wow…yes, Leon Valley truly sucks. Did any of the other arrests/tickets happen in San Antonio proper? I’m taking my grandson to a public park later today..thinking about stopping by dollar tree for chalk. He loves to chalk the sidewalk at home…

[@jackcoleman1784]

This needs to be pinned. As a musician and therefore an artist of a different medium I cannot tell you enough to please keep creating art my friend. The world and people of poor character may sometimes try to take your art from you. Don't let them.

[@usagi32211]

That officer was so convinced that he was right that he wouldn't even listen to his supervisor when he told him that drawing with chalk wasn't an arrestable offence.

[@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning]

He knew. He twists his words, mumbles a little, pretends he didn't hear the supervisor. I suspect he's padding his activity stats, the numbers aren't going to tell you what kind of arrests or if they ended up sticking, just that an arrest took place, thus showing the officer is being "active"

[@averychilco]

The sergeant should have made it clearer by saying he has white privilege and genetic immunity from the law.

[@OneShot_G]

​@averychilco Wtf are you talking about bro?

[@Tb0n3]

​@@averychilcoBro, what?

[@Del_S]

@@averychilco Jessie what the hell are you talking about

[@zubetp]

dude just expressed a distrust in his local police, and then they follow him and arrest him for a dumb reason. way to prove him right.

[@Dally_Sparkles]

the cop does sound very local, with that accent.

[@Sun-ic7rq]

@@Dally_Sparkles The 3rd worlders over here pretending to be cops need to go back... like now.

[@ThunderChunky101]

"I don't trust the police" They proceed to illegally arrest him for crossing the road. They make me absolutely sick.

[@michaelslee4336]

The irony was so thick with this whole thing it blocked out the sunlight towards the end. Disgusting.

[@MrEvanmcneilage]

@@ThunderChunky101 I support a good/justified cop/department any day, but even saying that, the only people who can't understand a distrust of the police, even from law abiding citizens, are the type to lick boots and windows lmfao

[@Decarlo.Monfra]

I've been saying this for years. If a citizen wasn't fully aware of the law, that is not a valid excuse. If a cop, who works with the law every day, and his job title is LAW ENFORCEMENT, isn't fully aware of the law, that protects him from civil liability. That has NEVER made sense to me.

[@thetest8777]

They want the title, but not the responsibility 😂

[@DoodleD123]

Great point

[@Bob-fy8bt]

I couldn’t agree with you more. Well said.

[@bascomp1]

Abolish qualified immunity

[@michaeldunar8986]

​@@thetest8777that is why they run from danger and beat up women and children

[@robertbarker5474]

The fact that a cop HANDCUFFED a man, DROVE him to police station, THEN said, "I am going to check the law right now to see if it applies..." is DISGRACEFUL...

[@sudonymh]

Truly thick. Impervious comes to mind as well.

[@user-yr6dm2yg3j]

Those cops should pay all those lawsuits with their pensions

[@sudonymh]

@@user-yr6dm2yg3j Oh, if only. :-)

[@nthnprice]

How stupid of a cop do you have to be

[@rigon28]

And he's the one training new recruits

[@MSFTS_DECAY]

Top 5 things cops are afraid of: 1.) Waterguns 2.) Shadows 3.) Acorns 4.) Chalk 5.) their biggest fear of all - informed citizens.

[@Vancev99x]

Small defenseless women. Don't forget they are afraid of women who call in noise conplaints.

[@MSFTS_DECAY]

@@Vancev99x that’s true!

[@luckilew]

And not having qualified immunity.

[@deborahmcdowell6871]

Citizens with cameras terrify them.

[@CenturyHomeProject]

You forgot a hand in the pocket.

[@sydnidowney3598]

A big part of the problem are the people who call police for foolishness like this.

[@janitorizamped]

No, the system should be able to handle bad calls. Its not the citizens job to understand what is and isnt graffiti in the local municipality. Citizens shouldnt be expected to know the law before calling the police, the police need to be expected to know the laws fhat they are enforcing.

[@OldManSurvival]

In the old newspaper Dear Abbey advice column series, her most often advice was MYOB (Mind Your Own Business). This advice would apply here. If it is so serious that a person thinks they MUST call 911, the caller should be required to provide their name, address and date of birth (cops CRAVE IDs) so they can be summoned to court to testify as a witness.

[@lonewanderer420]

That is the problem

[@Power_to_the_people567]

I was just relaxing the other day at the public park and someone called the cops on me for “suspicious vehicle”. I got ID’s for being parked in a park!

[@ashleecantu6470]

No. They're not the problem. The police are. Your assertion is that random citizens should know the law better that LAW ENFORCEMENT officers? If the police did their job properly, it wouldn't matter how many Karens called for foolish reasons. It's always someone else's fault, never the cops. 🙄

[@quiksix25]

Second guy: "You guys just wanna ID me illegally" - which is exactly what they wanted, it's literally on the bodycam

[@shoottrue5115]

It's crazy how our ignorance of the law is not an excuse but their ignorance of the law is "qualified immunity".

[@jcarroll135]

Daym.... this statement is 100% the most clearly direct to the problem statement I've ever read! Lol seriously, daym good point!

[@davidking2835]

Exactly!! He needs a badge about like he needs a hairbrush. It’s not ignorance, it’s flat out stupidity.

[@EyesopenedIseeyou]

Say it louder for those in back!!! Preach it!!!! 👏👏

[@ZachareSylvestre]

The thing is, I'm a programmer. I should know about how code works and test it properly before pushing it. If I push code to a server that crashes a server, I get fired. Conversely, if a cop arrests someone because they "didn't know the law," that cop continues working as if nothing happened. Cops should suffer severe penalties if they "don't know the law."

[@Splitchipsonblack1011]

FACTS!!!!!

[@MexicoAdventurer]

"Keep an eye on him" translates to "He hurt our ego, so let's find something to get him on. Watch him."

[@innominatum9906]

True! Have you seen the video where extremely dense cops end up killing an exotic snake and all its eggs in a mistake? I cant recall the price but I think it was tens of thousands of dollars. The guy who was taking care of the snake got extremely frustrated and mad at the cops and went out the back door to vent off. One cop was told to "Go with him and keep an eye on him". I have no doubt they wanted to get just SOMETHING on him - maybe an overreaction.

[@MexicoAdventurer]

@innominatum9906 Sure did see it. The caretaker was rightfully pissed because he kept he told them over and over which ones to not touch. And that was the biggest part of his venting.

[@sweethoneythoughts]

He told him right off they can’t even detain him! But he still wasn’t listening and kept saying he would look it up to make sure! Just stupid and arrogant.

[@theresascaiola8957]

Disgusting behavior by crooked cops. It was on body cam they planned to harras him. Like the guy said, " u all protect that blue line."

[@Sail562]

4 police cars to write a j walking ticket. What a waste of tax payer money

[@lordchaa1598]

They stalked and harassed him to scare him off from filing a complaint against one of their own.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

A bunch of bored "uvaldes"

[@Itsthatoneguy371]

I called PD on a angry vagrant at the front of one of the buildings at work and it took two and a half hours for someone to come out (I left after an hour, because I have other things to do) they went to the back of the building, called me then wanted me to come show them where the person I called about was then said it could be considered a false report, until I told them it was over two hours after I called, I waited an hour and I had to leave and by that time the vagrant had left as well. You didn’t do what you needed to do in reasonable amount of time, so now it’s my fault the person was gone when you showed up. Wtf!?

[@kevinward7498]

Aren't they worried about globull warming?😂

[@valentinius62]

Life in the Florida Oblast. 👮

[@moose030406]

Arrested for jay walking? Talk about corrupt cops.

[@samphillips9398]

Retired of 25 years, I’d been embarrassed to appear in court over sidewalk chalk on a sidewalk, You’d have to arrest half the kids in town! What a waste of time & tax dollars.

[@ruthl3ssstudio163]

Didnt you hear that stand-up officer? Chalk is also a marker.

[@jerryenglish4676]

It would be nice to have more police like you God bless you

[@kaseyboles30]

25 years ago There wasn't a habit of limiting the max IQ of new hires. 25 years ago police where not primarily revenue officers, they were Law Officers and Peace officers, and while bad cops and even bad departments existed they were seen as embarrassments, not 'tough on crime'. Though it wasn't long after things started to change, you may have seen the early hints. My mom's 2nd husband was a deputy Sherriff who left to work as a heavy materials delivery/pickup driver for a construction company. Because that rural Midwest county had gone from being about stopping the H.S. students beer bash in a farmers field, pulling over speeders or drunk drivers, dealing with the occasional fight or even shoplifter at the gas-station to dealing the newly booming meth trade. Then the sheriff himself found the FBI snooping into his professional life and jump off a chair while wearing a rope, at least it was presumed by his own choice. That was doubted by some after the next Sherriff gave till end of week notice and left town for a new job across the country in like 6 days, hired someone to sell his house and afaik never came near this state again. When things got serious with my mom, and found out his 1st grandchild was on the way he decided it was time to get out while he could. He retired almost a decade later due to health issues (bum knee from old injury finally put him to needing a cane and his heart health got pretty iffy). This was almost 20 years ago.

[@steve2jz664]

Ex PA STATE AGENT. I agree

[@jaerockchalk3216]

Well said ! Thanks for your honourable service

[@notalysha]

The cop holding the chalk and saying "these are elements of a crime". Amazing.

[@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning]

It's what passes for good police work these days....

[@SeriouslySteyn]

😂🤦🏻‍♂️. CrayCray!

[@valentinius62]

Si. Muy loco! 👮

[@83dcardenas]

I have always been told that “ignorance of the law is no excuse.” Why do officers get quality immunity when they are supposed to be educated in the law?

[@MatthiasVex]

Double standards are a feature for government bodies

[@sir.nightrider]

Which is crazy because it's their job to enforce the law so you'd think they'd be more informed about the law they’re enforcing. Other jobs you're fired if you don't know or misinterpret the scope of your job.

[@butternater-kq3ye]

I think that it would be almost impossible to know every single law, code, or city ordaniance. The cop was so sure of the graffity law that he didn't even care to double check himself to know that chalk would fall into that catagory. Which is crazy to me, should the cop had call in to see if he could issue a citation or arrest? Could he not look up the code before engaging the stop/investigation?

[@ICHope1]

In one respect it’s not unreasonable that they don’t know every single statute, law, caveat of every single law. They receive basic training in “the law” I. Additionally to first aid, fire arms training (safety, cleaning and maintenance, firing), dealing with crowds, handling EDPs, crime scene management, etc. all within the space of a few months. Lawyers on the other hand are educated for years - and some of them still mis-interpret and abuse the law. So IMO sometimes officers deserve the benefit of the doubt. In the flip side they need to use common sense and under stand that sometimes complainants are incorrect and they (not the person about whose the complaint was filed) are in the wrong.

[@longtutjenkins]

@@butternater-kq3yethey have all the time in the world to make sure they are not making a mistake before making an arrest or prolonged detention. This is not a good excuse for them.

[@ccink3931]

When your supervisor says "is that a arrestable offence" you know u screwed up

[@Diemerstein]

How could you give the Leon Valley cops a C- when even their supervisor told them that chalking was not an arrestable offense, then they released him with no charges, gave the guy $16,000 and a public apology.......I call that a clear F

[@WrknOnLvnTheLvn]

While the council did the right thing, the pigs have the potential to push it because we live in a miserable shithole

[@zubetp]

i call it an L

[@faytleingod1851]

Criminal mischief is arrestable though. Which is ridiculous, the law being broad saying any "markings" without consent of the owner can be arrestable. The law needs to be changed, and the officers really shouldn't have pushed the law. But legally, they were allowed to. Hence a C-. They were rude, started with the wrong charges (which legally they can just change in the middle of an arrest applied by qualified immunity. Which to me also needs to be changed that's bull) but the officers had every legal right to do what they did. The problem is the law that kept these power tripping punks within the law.

[@francisseidel8014]

​@faytleingod1851 - The problem is with criminal mischief is that you need "consent from the owner" but the owner is the public. City officials are not the "owners" but the custodians at best. The public owns it so that is a bogus leap.

[@faytleingod1851]

@@francisseidel8014 okay but you do realize you can't host a party in a public park without a permit. Peddle/ solicit without a permit. You can't have a band performance without a noise permit. There's also event permits, the permission is from the city. It's called a permit. Granted you can still host a party and play a band without one, just, don't be surprised when you get cited 😂 public park doesn't mean you can do whatever you want there.

[@UpdogGolf]

Imagine being an adult male, arresting another adult male over sidewalk chalk...

[@besluitloos]

By a foreigner with a badge who barely speaks your language

[@stevenbacon-cheddar9914]

Idiocracy is becoming a documentary as we speak😂

[@gaygay7708]

It’s hard to wrap your head around that.

[@timkinley1779]

Their priority is to arrest.

[@journeysalkebulan]

​@@besluitloosyou win for the dumbest comment! 🤡

[@Bigpay5150]

Dude got arrested for a child's activity. What a joke

[@Roaryer]

Children do too

[@martinbrink6711]

I think you mean yoke.

[@VelvetySharkToast]

​@@martinbrink6711 tell it to the yudge

[@James-vn8zb]

They arrest children for operating lemonade stands without permits. Children's activities are apparently an extremely dangerous threat to officer safety.

[@wallebo]

These two clowns probably would have arrested a seven year old girl had she been doing this.

[@averydavis5741]

Qualified immunity should not be a thing. If ignorance of a crime is not acceptable then immunity shouldnt either

[@bikingchad]

I'm alarmed how many times they said he's wearing all black like that itself was some kind of crime

[@averychilco]

It's the next best thing to saying he's African American. 😂

[@justliberty4072]

It's a really good way to distinguish him from other people.

[@yukinoshita5788]

i grew up in florida i never owned a piece of black clothing. i never called the cops out of fear of the goth or emo people but I never wear black.

[@sergregor807]

Especially since they are wearing all black.

[@cousinchris802]

I've had police called on me for that exact same nonsense. People call 911 for the dumbest reasons.

[@johncameron4172]

Those officers were mad that he was going file a complaint. The judge that ruled against him was the biggest disgrace of all.

[@richarddavis2961]

Judges have ruined this country by allowing this type of BS by our police. Bad judge. 💩

[@Jusslookin]

Chief of police have to start going to jail for their officers actions

[@LoveBigTiddyGothGirls]

Shame on whoever thinks drawing on the sidewalk with chalk is terrible.

That would be fascist control-freak cops with nothing better to do and a lack of control or power in their own lives.

[@elrey8876]

*I DON'T KNOW* what's worse - the cops in the US, or the whole population turning into a bunch of triggered, snowflake Karens who call them at the drop of a hat.

[@tristanfletcher]

A friend chalked the footpath (sidewalk) with "bunny rabbit foot prints" for his daughter on Easter. One neighbour went and washed them off. Some people want others to suffer for nothing. Such a shame.

[@stevejette2329]

Com - I did some with a pressure washer on a very dirty sidewalk and an old lady called on me. She was crying, screaming, hysterical.

[@wvguy7238]

Are you two neighbors by chance?

[@screamo4211]

that cop needs to be deported

[@michaelogbor4351]

Exactly, they’re taking anyone now. I can guarantee you he’s not a citizen with that accent so Ofcourse he wouldn’t know the law himself smh

[@xliquidflames]

8:32 The training officer also lied to his supervisor to try and justify the arrest. "I dunno, the water is not washing it off so it's going to take a little bit of time." He never tried to wash it off and it hadn't rained enough yet to know that. I say he should get an F for that alone.

[@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning]

He knew what he was doing, he was using the trust of his coworker to brush what he was doing under the rug. He really really wanted that arrest.

[@JMan-24]

@@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning Yep. All because he didn’t provide ID.

[@mikkelkampmann359]

"i mean, water touched it and it didn't disappear. so its basically permanent you know"

[@darinlunderman8063]

That did stick out to me. It really makes me wonder just how often people will barely inspect something or even blatantly lie about checking it out at all, as opposed to taking the time to absolutely confirm that something is the case? I imagine the cops saw someone doing an activity that they didn't approve of, perceived the person to have an attitude and/or was being difficult, and so decided that the person was being "disorderly". Some people really do not need to be cops if simply feeling disrespected is enough for them to arrest someone.

[@richardnelson6999]

RoboCop 5😅😅😂

[@deannanace8935]

WHAT A DUMB COP ! He took him inside the jail, put him inside a cell for 30 minutes AFTER his boss told him chalking is not a chargeable offense!

[@1718cv]

He’s prideful and arrogant and didn’t want to admit he was wrong!

[@moe9587]

Hes a dumb cop because he demanded id and put his hands on the citizen when there was no crime !! Lmao

[@MStinkyknickers]

Ignorance of the law is no excuse especially when ur a LEO

[@vietcongbuondanbannuocphan1791]

And he was a trainer

[@sweethoneythoughts]

looks like he was trying to look like a big dude in front of his trainee.

[@OsmiumBlaze]

The fact that the second guy was only at the police station to file an officer complaint, when he was again harrased, is laughably ironic

[@trashpanda2825]

Irony this ain't. They followed him and went looking for a way to punish him after he told them he was going to file an officer complaint

[@OsmiumBlaze]

@@trashpanda2825 he was being harassed for doing nothing even before he said that though, although it did get worse after he said it, but still.

[@mp505]

Why the judge find him guilty? I bet he represented himself which was not a good idea but he needs to appeal. Judges at superior court don’t know jack shit about the law; they just decide based on their impression and feeling. The jaywalking guy needs to lawyer up and appeal and take this case to Supreme Court if necessary. Although justices sitting at the Supreme Court ain’t the brightest cookies in their field at the moment. What a shame! Our democracy is a sham!

[@pamwalls1399]

The cop even admitted he threatened to arrest him if he didn't I.D

[@concernedcitizen4374]

They’re arresting him for defacing public property that will wash away…meanwhile they permanently defaced our flag which is against the long standing flag code, and displayed it on a police car window…not their personal car!

[@timothybennett9973]

And they won't arrest people painting the dumb a$$ pride flags for crosswalks

[@sydnidowney3598]

NEXT......cops will be arresting pilots for SKYWRITING.

[@dhawthorne1634]

Well ACTUALLY... The Navy did ground a fighter pilot for "accidentally" drawing a giant dick with his con-trail over Washington state.

[@pringers3831]

Skywriting is explicitly illegal in some jurisdictions though

[@friskytwox]

@@pringers3831oh brother you just had to be the "well actually" guy huh ? jesus

[@djbloo8996]

@@pringers3831 this is the guy who would call the cops

[@faceinthewindow.]

​@pringers3831 You can essplain that to the yudge, okey? 😠

[@nikkusan6704]

2:06 these are the type of cops that would arrested a 7-year-old for selling lemonade on the side of the road for $.10 a cup so they could help their grandmother afford healthcare just because they “don’t have a permit“.

[@PepeToTheMooon]

Add chalk to the long list of things cops are scared of.

[@wvguy7238]

Then take the 7 year old kids money via civil asset forfeiture.

[@tonylittle8634]

I’m beyond words. This is like the FBI watching PTA meetings or busting kids selling lemonade.

[@AEtherstream]

​@@wvguy7238 well of course! It was the product of "crime"!! 😂

[@waynemangan7200]

Better charge $25 per cup to make much difference

[@theoldman7739]

Jaywalking? JAYWALKING? That has to be the lamest reason for forcing an ID. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[@brkbtjunkie]

I’m not sure they are capable of shame.

[@theoldman7739]

@@brkbtjunkie I would not doubt it but one can dream. lol

[@valentinius62]

What's her name, Acura Amanda? Same thing happened to her one night in the People's Republic of Florida while cop watching.

[@DoroNijimaru]

alleged jaywalking. there is literally no proof of it occurring. let that sink in.

[@userfaulty]

Sounds more like retaliation

[@mtw1234]

No qualified immunity because supervisor told him it was legal!!!

[@NicoNuney]

Has any Court ever explained why ignorance of the law is a defense for police but not for civilians?

[@MrBeevee5]

Yes, the public is supposed to know the law. Not knowing the law protects the pigs.

[@oldcatlover]

Wow, valid point.😂

[@stevenbacon-cheddar9914]

Quite the adroit level of discourse for the internet…you do know this is KZbin comments, right?😂

[@NicoNuney]

@@stevenbacon-cheddar9914 Who cares if it's KZbin comments? You think smart people like lawyers and doctors don't watch KZbin and therefore leave comments?

[@SnakeSalmon8izback]

@@stevenbacon-cheddar9914 stop trying to sound smart, it's embarrassing

[@moroniccolonic3959]

How can you give the chalk cops a c-? They illegally detained a human and cost their city $16k, they get an F.

[@sauvagess]

The graffiti law explicitly states "any device containing a solid form of paint, *chalk,* wax, [...]" so if you have a problem, then take it up with the graffiti law.

[@bojohannesen4352]

​@@sauvagessYou are incredibly not smart.

[@kadengordon6941]

​@@sauvagessI'm pretty sure solid chalk is something entirely different that doesn't just wash away in the rain

[@HungryForBurritos]

@@sauvagessthat’s for permanent chalk like industrial chalk…. Regular chalk that washes off by hand or water isn’t considered a graffiti device, it only refers to anything that is permanent that makes it graffiti

[@sauvagess]

Chalk is chalk according to the law. Again, take it up with them.

[@bonitaapplebum5450]

Inmate: aye man, what u in for? Guy: drawing on the sidewalk with chalk

[@yoeyzee]

I knew it was trouble when the officer sounded like the guy I buy tacos from.

[@duckdog8052]

You can't expect cops to be able to read and understand the law, they have to focus on breathing and walking at the same time

[@tonidixon839]

LOL! So true…

[@sg9414]

i'd give the officers an F for not listening to the advice of the supervisors.

[@valentinius62]

Good point as the taxpayers did have to pay $ for their actions. But ATA's a stickler. Is he running for judge somewhere? 🤔

[@Discipleofthelordandjesus]

@@valentinius62yup.😂 He’s a fed.

[@faytleingod1851]

This channel isn't about personal feelings it's about court law. the rating system is based on legality not emotions.

[@jerryenglish4676]

Yes, absolutely, they are being groomed to be this way. They want a new word, police force they want us to have global government they want most of us gone I mean, literally gone.

[@KhaoticKalm]

@@faytleingod1851 there’s many things that he’s covered that he strongly disagrees with the written law but he will not give someone a bad grade for staying within the rules.

[@brodrickflowers117]

Imagine your boss comes up and tells you that you're wrong, tells you that your actions can open you up to litigation and you STILL are too stubborn to listen... Edit: yep and cost the tax payers 16k.....

[@larrybrinley8222]

Listen means he heard what the Sargent said.......🙄

[@mtw1234]

THEY WERE TOLD IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL AND ARRESTED HIM ANYWAY!! WHY DO YOU THINK HE WOULD GET QUALIFIED IMMUNITY?

[@Deke1]

How a judge didn't find that the second case wasn't a retalitory stop is beyond ridiculous

[@valentinius62]

Fishin' buddies. Maybe a relative. Who knows in Florida.

[@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning]

It all depends on the temperament of the judge, if they're of the same mind, wanting to back the blue no matter what, then they're gonna side with the cop every time. Unless the facts are so outrageously obvious that nobody could ever possibly misinterpret them in the cops favor, then they would be forced to give an objective judgement.

[@dougjohnson7907]

Florida SUCKS

[@timkinley1779]

Some judges don't give a fuk.

[@PJump]

Because the cop lied under oath.

[@douce409]

imagine you're the person who called the police on the chalk guy, only to have your town throw a "chalk the walk" day because of it lol

[@Im_lil_kennedy]

Read the pinned comment…they don’t care

[@hardlivinglife]

😂😂😂

[@Emceepe]

A “C-“? Jesus Christ dood. The sergeant explicitly told the officer it wasn’t arrest able and the cop was so high on his own ego he ignored and brushed off literally everything his superior was telling him.

[@DeformedPie]

This dude's little rating system is so cringe lmao

[@Jimbo0341usmc]

Dude* Also, John is a boot licker. Putting cuffs of someone when there is no victim is the problem. Laws are nothing but a politicians opinion enforced by their own gang of cowards.

[@xv6701]

@@DeformedPie if you don’t get beat then it’s acceptable policing under AtA’s scale.

[@hashbrown4781]

​@@xv6701Being arrested in handcuffs is violence. I can understand where you are coming from, but any unwanted touching is assault and/or battery.

[@lllStanlll]

Yeah nah, those comments are what's cringe. In what world is C- acceptable policing? C- is a terrible score and it's such a small part of the video, I don't understand why I see these comments on every video that doesn't give the cops an F. Here's a tip, listen to the whole analysis, it's more relevant than a little score.

[@gunsup3198]

I love how Sgt. Byrd tried to convince Mr. Neumeyer that, as a supervisor, he cared about him and his complaint that he wanted to file, then set out to prove he was full of shit all along.

[@evalex71]

Kudos to Mr. Neumeyer. Dude showed his mistrust of cops from the get go and those 4 cops went out of their way to earn it

[@steelmill]

A big shout out to all of the citizens who have educated themselves on the law,An informed citizen is a cops worst nightmare

[@bykurt_is]

You didn’t even have time to watch the video 💀 it dropped 6min ago

[@bykurt_is]

Then again this video was already circulated

[@Trooper599]

It doesn't even matter how informed a citizen is. As long as they're dealing with an uninformed cop, they can be George fucking Washington and they will still arrest you. They even get a kick out of arresting people who think they know they law.

[@mericanignoranc3551]

Ummmmmm....just because you're informed doesn't mean you're protected, as a matter of FACT, I've seen it escalate the situation . Cops will band together and back each other up, AND IF YOU'RE POOR YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE LEGAL BILLS! GL with your fantasy....I hope it works out for you...and OH YEAH ! 99% of lawyers WIL NOT TAKE YOUR CASE....ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY...AND LOTS OF IT! The things you have to tell yourself...lol...smh

[@timduncan2981]

@@bykurt_islol yeah it’s super cringe when people do this

[@WashupCyclone]

Funny. That “thin blue line” decal on the police vehicle should be considered defacing public property.

[@pixelsnob]

💯

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

It depends. If they asked for permission to put it there, it's fine. If they didn't, it's criminal mischief, $500 fine, unless it costs more than $100 to remove. Which it shouldn't.

[@CowToes]

​@@nuclearmedicineman6270terroristic symbols don't belong on anything owned by the public.

[@user-cq9nj8vc3l]

Imagine their outrage if someone decided to decal the police station with opinions about this ridiulousness, in something more permanent than chalk!

[@chainuser1774]

The thin blue line flag in general is in violation of US flag code.

[@dustyroads5301]

Guy, “ I don’t trust cops’ cops, “ follow that guy until you can get him on anything “

[@timoittner1641]

The officer in the second video, literally proof the citizens point immediately after explaining to him that his complaint doesn’t mean anything to him

[@Wargod6666]

Exactly

[@seeya205]

So, he claimed that police are corrupt so the officer thought it would be a good idea to be corrupt and prove him right?!?! LMFAO!

[@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning]

Yuuuuup!🤣

[@anrkyking720]

Every. Damn. Time.

[@theweirdo61]

lol came looking for this. Love how he called him out the first time and the officer was defensive "you don't know me", when in fact, he did 😆

[@seeya205]

@@theweirdo61 That's why he was offended by it! 🤣

[@TheQuickSilver101]

Qualified immunity is a great excuse for officers to arrest first and figure it out later. This begs the question; is that the type of society that we're willing to accept?

[@Bitchthatssarah]

Great point

[@templar930]

Guilty first. Then try and make anything stick to save face. Then innocence

[@barryhollon468]

Things will never change until those unaffected are as outraged as those affected .Author unknown.

[@Donnie-cj8tg]

​@@barryhollon468 Silver or Lead

[@Thezuule1]

Obviously yes. Here we are sooo…

[@ZappayaZappayo]

19:20 literally proved the guys point in one statement after he walks off. Yeah, they're "here to help" and "you don't know me" complete horseshit. dude was 100% correct

[@joseaponte7434]

How petty can this cop be? They fallow him to see if he commits a misdemeanor, then detains him for just-walking. Another lawsuit we taxpayers have to put up.

[@randybuchanan79]

Plus their salaries, don't forget. And your paying them to create the lawsuit that you are gonna pay for

[@sbarley]

The more lawsuits against the police will inevitably cause the local gov to reform since they LOVE money

[@TheModelGamer]

I can clearly see what happened here. As soon as this guy said he wanted to file a complaint, they immediately did everything to run interference. First, they tried to get him to verbalize his complaint to the sergeant, saying he's the guy to talk to. No paper trail that would necessitate an investigation into the complaint. Failing that, suddenly they were VERY concerned with finding out who he was. They wanted to see if he came in a car so they could run the tag and find his identity, but he was on foot, so they couldn't do that. So they clearly followed him waiting for ANY sort of pretext to stop him and get his information. Because once they found out who he was, now they can go into their records to see why he might be filing a complaint, and take pre-emptive measures to run interference in an investigation. There was no reason to follow him off the property just because he didn't wish to identify himself and wanted to file a complaint in writing, which he has the right to do. Everything that happened once he left the station was 100% police overrreach.

[@blankblank4130]

He needs a civil attorney.

[@laurierice7687]

Imagine 3 or 4 cop cruisers for jaywalking! Unbelievable.

[@obadel5092]

Our taxes used to detain dangerous criminals with chalk

[@faceinthewindow.]

Look, Fat, look, here's the deal...

[@brodrickflowers117]

Chalk on a public sidewalk? Get the cuffs! 🤬🤬🤬

[@ericredwings2009]

Better go get those 5 year old kids that drew on my sidewalk. Loser cops

[@gr33dyglutton]

They didn't care about the sidewalk, they said they were going to work with him. It was the fact he questioned their assertions and challenged their actions. Disrespect is one of the worst crimes you can commit on a cop.

[@brodrickflowers117]

@@gr33dyglutton there was nothing to "work with." Nothing he was doing was illegal by both criminal law or city ordinance. The arresting officer even tried making up some crap to his sergeant about the chalk not washing away. Where did you see in the video that they tried to wash it away?

[@TheRealCaptainFreedom]

This is what cops do instead of dealing with real crime. Sometimes it is because that particular city has next to no crime. Sometimes it is because police in big cities have been told “hands off” regarding certain demographics with a demonstrated propensity for committing serious crime. Sometimes it is because the cops are too afraid of actual criminals.

[@EarnestWilliamsGeofferic]

The idea that the Port Orange officers get a C, even 'at best', is disgusting. It undermines the value of this channel. They are thugs.

[@matchbox420.]

I bet that cop felt really cool and proud of himself loading that crayola chalk into the back of his car.

[@cynthiamendoza5454]

Like a dad giving their kids a timeout

[@rypsterhc8673]

He didn't enjoy his childhood 😭

[@bluesdog645]

Nice to see the “instructor” doing such a great job instructing a new recruit how to properly violate a citizen’s rights.

[@igoelbowdeep1527]

Facts!!

[@corralescoyote]

18:54 100% retaliation against this guy because 1) he was going to complain on police, 2) he wouldn’t bow down and immediately ID even though they detained him illegally 3) they followed him for no reason to “see if he does something” we can detain/ID him for. “You didn’t get ID?” OH NO!! They couldn’t get their stupid fix. Plus, he obviously doesn’t like police, so he has to be hassled, so we can make his distrust of police 100% justified. 🙄

[@fredericogonsalves6323]

How can you not hate these bully cops? It makes me sick.

[@CrimeSentinel]

Using four police cars to issue a jaywalking ticket is such a waste of taxpayer money

[@user-sg6sv9oi6i]

CrimeSentinel - Yes, indeed.

[@chillnagasden6190]

AmeriCops are hilariously insecure. It also feels like they are HARD on the quotas, as well as being generally inept and corrupt. Pisshole. America, wouldn't want to live there.

[@angelo_giachetti]

Its safe. A cop can waste a couple hours on jay walking.

[@Sun-ic7rq]

we're going to be 50 trillions dollars in debt soon... i dont think the government gives a f...

[@marymac789]

Anyone watching the video KNOWS that they all colluded with each other after they HAD to let him go after their first nonsense stop. They were going on about him not showing his ID. They were pissed because he knew his rights and there was nothing they could do about it so they lied and made something up. Peeces of Sheet - all of them!!

[@ziggy7668]

Qualified immunity was created by judges to protect cops and to shows how courts couldn't care less about people's rights when it comes to cops being held accountable.

[@chineseredneck1211]

Unfortunately, QE covers all gov employees. Sometimes, not even in official capicity

[@KhaoticKalm]

The same guys that say to us “Ignorance is no excuse”

[@daleallen7634]

​@@chineseredneck1211: QI not "QE" js

[@kaseyboles30]

Yes and no (mostly yes IMHO). It was in a sense created by Scotus, however it was based on the British common law that basically fills in where no law exists or where it can clear up a borderline case. Thus it's not entirely woven out of thin air. However as it is applied it's ripe for abuse, as evidenced by the significant abuse seen. While the constitution only mentions common law once (7th amendment) it does provide the framework the founders were most familiar with and was likely a source of guidance and inspiration in forming of constitutions and laws thereunder.

[@chineseredneck1211]

@@daleallen7634 🤣 Damn phone

[@ephy1973]

The sergeant tells him that it is not arrestable and he's like, "I'll check it up." Free the guy immediately!

[@alexkidd1906]

Broadcast this shit hole department far and wide. The fact that the supervisor told officers to pretty much do whatever to identify him is abhorrent.

[@IggnantOG]

They don't give a fk about lawsuits. They don't pay a dime. We do.

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

Indemnification is a problem.

[@Mrdad3255]

That's the same way the federal government does they have total immunity they're not held accountable for their actions even when they go against your rights, civil, local state and federal!

[@balisongkid1]

Did I miss something? Where's the "informed sergeant defends citizen"? I saw an un-lawful arrest, and an un-lawful detainment... No superiors defending a citizen Oh, I see now.. He "warns him"... That's not a defense of the citizen, it's an attempted defense against a lawsuit. He was the "SUPERIOR OFFICER", he should have commanded him to release him. Just trying to protect his own, not the people.

[@thomasmyers9128]

Qualified immunity needs to be outlawed….. The citizen was right about the blue line…. Cops “ follow him and ID”….

[@aaroncalhoun157]

Love how the sergeant in the 2nd video in response to the citizen telling the sergeant he's just like every other cop says "you don't know me!" and then....proceeds to act like every other cop and abuse his authority in order to mess with a private citizen who didn't show enough respect for the badge. Disgusting.

[@Jianichie]

What a disgusting, petty tyrant.

[@TRC19999]

Do…do these cops realize how chalk works?Not even a minute in and he’s in handcuffs.

[@KidBowsur]

Yeah that was disgusting. The moment he wants to record something he knows is unlawful they detain him to prevent any record they can't control. Idk why it's so hard for an officer to tell someone to wait while they do a Google search

[@buckeyenative1365]

Feel sorry for their children. Or they are so uninvolved they don't know their kids are budding criminals.

[@Power_to_the_people567]

They are not paid to be smart

[@PeenWienerstien]

Well no, theyre from Mexico, theg dont have chalk in Mexico

[@frederickconnell6052]

Well done chalker sue the shat outta them,,,,,,😢

[@Oshkoshbgosh89]

What Karen calls the cops because of chalk? Why can’t the cops use 5 minutes of common sense? If it’s a small violation just let him know politely and move on.

[@rationalmindriot7762]

oh any excuse the pigs can find to shake down a non-criminal citizen they are oath breakers protected by a corrupt system

[@yeudoi66]

A cop with common sense or brain? We wouldn’t have expensive law suits paid for by the taxpayers 😮

[@natelevy1040]

It isn't a violation.

[@jonathantatler]

Unfortunately the individuals employed with your tax money have neither any common sense or intelligence. How much do they get paid? It's clearly too much

[@user-hi3iy9me4e]

Most likely a 48 year old white woman with no kids and who works in HR and hates all men and her own life.

[@amandamarie740]

Imagine being an adult and getting upset over sidewalk chalk.

[@gregkasza1925]

Shackled for “ Officer Safety “ in less than one minute. When you train them as cowards, you will get cowardice.

[@alphonse2234]

Who is the owner of public land? End qualified immunity!

[@7620313]

That police officer lied to the sergeant, saying it wasn’t washable, while holding a box of chalk that says “washable”!

[@valentinius62]

No hablo. 👮

[@frankcaliendosucks]

Esplain it to de yudge ​@@valentinius62

[@Darren-rt2ez]

Surely the fact that one of the arresting officers is an FTO then he deserves an F for his lack of knowledge.

[@santastiger9720]

You should have given the first officers an F, they were clearly bored and arrested someone without even knowing the law.

[@xv6701]

They didn’t go hands on. AtA gives F’s only for hands on or use of force.

[@cotton-Dave]

@@xv6701 Then how did they slap him in cuffs? Used tongs, maybe? Watch the video again, but this time, WATCH! ATA seems to be drifting closer and closer to that blue line lately!

[@josue2409]

@@cotton-Dave you are not intelligent..

[@owl_uwu1297]

​@@cotton-DaveYeah and your teachers were being generous giving you a C-. In seriousness though, the scale is relative. C- isn't good, just not as bad as the people who get an F.

[@tiggles11]

The cops own body cam proves they were after the guy just to get his name, so that officer retaliated to get his id.

[@dxb338]

theyre allowed to do that, as AtA explained. what a wonderful system we have /s.

[@seshnzTV]

C- for violating a citizen's civil rights is wild

[@user-pg4qs5cu6b]

Exactly, ATA seems to highly favor the cops side unless it is clearly obvious that it’s totally wrong. Would love to see him score LIA (since they’re friends and business partners). I like him because he’s truly exposing a lot on his channel but his scores, his synopsis and his use of case law supports the cops. I’ve seen plenty of case law that contradicts the ones he posts. I do excuse him because one thing that keeps getting mentioned is does a reasonable officer see things the same way, but the reason we’re here videoing and auditing them is because most cops aren’t REASONABLE!!

[@theweirdo61]

I mean the whole reason he gave a C was due to the ambiguity with the law. As was seen in the second case, I didn't look into it myself but according to ATA the guy challenged the citation and lost. You can't give that a failing grade when the judge found it to be a lawful citation and constitutional can you? It was absolutely shitty of the cops, no doubt about that. But apparently, it was still technically legal.

[@user-pg4qs5cu6b]

I still disagree. The cops that beat Rodney king all got not guilty verdicts. So do you give them a C grade?? Absolutely not. The whole justice system is failing us. But we’re here in the court of public opinion. And especially after looking at the cops body came and he literally told one cop to find his car so they can I’d him and told another basically to follow him to get his ID then it’s an F!!

[@ronevans936]

A C- is a pretty bad grade. If every grade is either an A+ or an F, there where is the nuance? Clearly they did pretty badly, and they got a bad grade. But the worst grades should be reserved for the worst comportment. And this comportment is, unfortunately, not the worst...

[@alphazero924]

@@theweirdo61 "You can't give that a failing grade when the judge found it to be a lawful citation and constitutional can you?" You absolutely can. A judge being wrong doesn't make the cops right

[@anthonybastarache6314]

The guys in both stories were one hundred percent right and handled themselves perfectly in both situations. That is how you stand up for your own rights! Bravo gentlemen! 👍

[@christine_lovelace]

Imagine arresting every little kid that draws with chalk

[@lindawatson8087]

They have all committed a criminal offense....sad.

[@CarlRencer]

how does one drawer with chalk?

[@lodrbyroni]

@@CarlRencer How does one be such an asshole they feel the need to attack a minor grammar error on a youtube comment that actually raised voice of concern to tyrant cops being able to arrest children for sidewalk chalk based on this officers interpretation of the law?

[@coolsandhots]

You being arrested for illegal hopscotch chalk drawing without a permit.

[@kellark]

I was thinking the same thing. Now they have to stop and arrest EVERY child who uses sidewalk chalk. Oh and dont forget to arrest those crimescene cops who draw on the ground with chalk too.

[@amckay2266]

"go see if he's got a tag on his car" straight up phishing expedition to try to criminalize someone.

[@BadKarma714]

Sidewalk chalk was invented for sidewalks. You don’t need a permit to draw on a sidewalk that is so crazy that he got arrested for that. I hope you sue the hell out of that guy.

[@CulturedWhiteBoy]

Judges will almost ALWAYS believe a cops word over a citizen's word.

[@janicewright8139]

And that’s exactly why I stopped watching Judge Judy. She said she believed what the cops wrote in their report multiple times before I finally stopped watching her shows.

[@drestnar]

Why we wear body cameras. Video don't lie

[@7heRedBaron]

And anyone wonders why.

[@thanatos6902]

@@drestnar video doesn't lie but it costs to get it when we just want to be left alone in the first place... a lot of the time cops have no business approaching individuals they just start mess and make false arrests on failure to ID or obstruction

[@tylerraisl3939]

Yup yup.....it's disgusting

[@JustaNobody-j8x]

In a world where everything feels like it’s falling apart, seeing this sergeant actually stand up for what is right is almost… inspiring.

[@3PercentNeanderhal]

I suspect it had nothing to do with what was right or wrong but instead it was simply not wanting to drag the department into a lawsuit.

[@r8m8s8]

Why isn’t it inspiring, why is it almost inspiring

[@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning]

Almost. It would have been inspiring if the sergeant personally went and released the guy after seeing the chalk and hearing what the arresting officer said.

[@frankwallace5174]

@@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning agree 100%

[@bunpeishiratori5849]

The sergeant did a good job in correcting them but he could have been even more forceful in doing so.

[@sethfroman7044]

Why can’t citizens use ignorance of the law as an excuse for a ticket/arrest, but police can use ignorance or stupidity, as an excuse for arrest and then get qualified immunity? 🤷🏽

[@elizabethd8147]

It's definitely a double standard for sure! I will say though that the second guy was a bit off. He went there to file a complaint. When he was with the guy who he would be filing the complaint with, he didn't want to because he was sure the officer would just protect the "blue line". So, what was the point in him going there in the first place if he thought any and all officers wouldn't do anything for him and just protect their brothers? It doesn't make any sense. That said, after the fact it was pretty clear that the officer was trying to get him in trouble for whatever he could, reasonable or not.

[@ssj4sadie]

@@elizabethd8147he went into the police station to file the complaint. There are things you need like copies of the report, who you spoke to, etc. You don’t file complaints about police (assuming that, since he clearly does not like cops) with random cops who stopped you. You file them with internal affairs. He even said he would be back to file the report.

[@elizabethd8147]

@ssj4sadie I get that. My point is that if he's not going to trust a cop to take his statement or complaints then he's not going to trust a cop to take his statement or complaints inside that office either. He's wanting in one hand while crapping in the other....

[@marymac789]

@@elizabethd8147 They stopped him for no reason. He knew his rights.

[@Josh-qm8xo]

Cop: I stopped a speeder going 100+ today! Cop: I stopped a home invasion today! Cop: i stopped a guy drawling flowers on the sidewalk….

[@benjamincasebolt2959]

Second guy did such a good job just dissecting what was happening to him as it was happening. I love it.

[@PepeToTheMooon]

Add chalk to the long list of things cops are scared of. Why not compliment the guy for his work and just let him be since it’s about to rain? Common sense is a lost art.

[@ronjames4151]

Can you imagine if he used the chalk to draw an acorn? The terror

[@PepeToTheMooon]

@@ronjames4151or if he drew a pot of water with the words “rebuke in the name of Jesus”?

[@Nuffsi]

"Common sense is a lost art." so is chalking

[@carlosfandango6255]

Why even turn up?

[@ronjames4151]

@@PepeToTheMooon how about a pot of water full of acorns? Lol. They would probably bring a bazooka to handle that situation

[@varner226]

"Keep an eye on him and ID"... I'll take retaliation for 500, Alex!

[@mnj1tdk12]

The second guy was smarter when he was quiet, but he felt compelled to deliver his verbal police manifesto.

[@agrape2887]

"You dont know me" Proceeds to be the exact kind of cop newmeyer thought he was

[@ExcuseTheSaltImLearning]

That cop did an excellent job proving him right. I love it when they make it easy to prove who they really are and who they really care about. Newmeyer was spitting facts and the cop kept trying to reassure him that he wasn't exactly what he proved himself to be. "You don't know me" We don't need to know you, the badge tells us everything we need to know about you.

[@valentinius62]

Facts.

[@Jimbo0341usmc]

Wonderful example on how if we didn’t know it was illegal, we are told “ignorance of the law doesn’t give you a pass” but when a cop doesn’t know the laws he’s enforcing, he gets a pat on the back and is told “we can’t hold you accountable because you didn’t know”

[@Power_to_the_people567]

End qualified immunity

[@hashbrown4781]

Ignorance of the law is exactly what qualifies their immunity.

[@tomhoffner513]

STUPIDITY AT IT'S WORST LEVEL,public servant.....

[@paulghignon4092]

I believe this falls under the rules for thee not for me statute.

[@marw1920]

The irony of this rogue cop, a so-called supervisor who just violated his rights by detaining him without criminal activity - now claims to the individual he just seized, seen as a retaliation to previous complaint - wants us to think he can remain fair and unbiased.

[@smnkm4ehfer]

Imagine being a cop and checking sidewalk chalk into evidence 😂

[@Jimmy-H]

got the "thin blue line" bracelet and a sticker on his patrol vehicle. thank god we got the thin blue line separating us from the terrible *checks notes* sidewalk chalk

[@AdderTude]

It's getting to the point where the Thin Blue Line is really the barrier between cops and citizens. Cops feel they don't have to follow the law but force everyone else to (outside of friends of the department, like the DA's office and certain judges), and if they can't find a valid reason, they'll twist the law to fit the crime.

[@jacobray7494]

And this guy is a field training officer so let that sink in.

[@bchap1233]

Another C- for being incompetent at your job. Any false arrest should be an automatic F. There is no way they would be granted qualified immunity for violating rights with a reasonable judge and jury.

[@wdsbhb]

Exactly. How can you get a passing grade when you ignore your supervisor and the man is released?

[@Some_Guy_6]

@@wdsbhb I hate this channel's ret@red point system. Always have.

[@faytleingod1851]

Criminal mischief isn't a false arrest. They didn't get a C- for incompetence. It was for being rude and starting with graffiti charges then changed it. The problem is the law allows this, not that the officers used the law to make a, ridiculous arrest. They should've just let him go but the law left the officers within their rights. Hence a C-.

[@bchap1233]

@@faytleingod1851 it is 100% a false arrest. They arrest for graffiti, then found a “loophole” to change it and make a charge stick. Which guess what, it didn’t, the supervisor said it was BS, they apologized and everything bc it was wrong. Hence, they deserve an F

[@faytleingod1851]

@@bchap1233 that loop hole is called qualified immunity. So yes they were within their rights. But also yes your correct it didn't stick. Yes your correct it was wrong they should've just let him go. However they didn't wrongfully arrest him, they did everything within the law. The law needs to be changed so qualified immunity can't protect officers who arrest you for a crime, then change the crime halfway through the arrest. They didn't violate any rights, they didn't do anything outside of their jurisdiction, but they most certainly didn't have to be so aggressive, or arrest someone just because they can. The guy was on a power trip and its crazy to think he was supposed to be training!

[@ProfessorPoliwag]

Bro took sidewalk chalk and said it was evidence of the crime

[@jring383]

Its crazy how many times ive heard, "All you had to do was give us your name" in situations where the person wasn't obligated to do so. They never fucking learn.

[@GwynneWalkerTrujillo]

Crazy how so many people don't know that you must identify yourself when you are asked to do so 🧐🧐🤷‍♀️

[@jring383]

@@GwynneWalkerTrujillo No, this is not Nazi Germany. There is no "papers please" here. You must be suspected of a crime to be required by law to identify. The 4th amendment states that you have a right to be secure in your papers and effects, this includes ID.

[@quiksix25]

​@@GwynneWalkerTrujillo That's just not true- you have to identify yourself when the cops have reasonable suspicion that you have, or are about to, commit a crime- even their catch-all, obstruction, is a secondary act after committing a crime

[@kyleoppenheim8711]

​@@GwynneWalkerTrujillo crazy how you don't understand that a simple Google search disproves your entire comment. You don't even have to present an ID for a trespassing order in every state, a physical description will suffice