Inmotion V11 Range Test

[@drumbri]

Dear Marty, you are my hero. Not to diss any of the other amazing influencers we are so lucky to have in the EUC comunity but, this is the BEST range test covering every aspect you could possibly want to know. You rode until you could not ride. Thank you sir. Where the heck is my V11?!!

[@avx389]

Thanks a lot Marty for doing the first real range test of this wheel ! That was the most interesting test of the V11 I saw for now.

[@domatech]

Check out Chooches video on the dirt track another good one. Can't wait for my V11 show up! Cant take it anymore

[@nomoremids1472]

@@domatech i feel the same, im so impatient waiting for mine to arrive!!

[@drumbri]

I see I am in the correct thread for the therapy session for those of us still waiting for our V 11. 🍻cheers!

[@domatech]

Its making me thoroughly nuts... Hopefully at least the sept batch will have lots the upgrades at least so there is that. Worth the wait IMo

[@nomoremids1472]

@@domatech is it worth the wait? yes absolutely. Am I willing to wait? NO SEND ME THE BROKEN WHEEL I NEED IT NOOOWW

[@bibleandblues6634]

Looking forward to production unit testing to see the improvements. You guys do us a great service testing these for us and finding these issues so they can fix them.

[@thomasman3670]

You did a great job, and an excellent film. Again you've discovered the weaknesses of this EUC. Speaking of V11, if it's a defect it can be fixed, but if they designed it to have such tilt back, and then to sit in the "nose" is a big mistake! I look forward to the stress test. All the best!

[@wheeliam360]

Thanks Marty. As an owner of the V11 this information is much needed for safe operation. My hats off to you thanks for this test. Enjoy your walk home in the Cali. night air. I'll see you in the next video live on Thurs. Duff man.👁🌴

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

Can you respondb to this and see if the go home mode works with the preduction model ,, go run your battery down and let us know 😁

[@wheeliam360]

@@ElectricunicyclesUK yeah but my issue is I live out in the country and cell service sucks and IM app requires a cell connection. I would have to do this in town. Otherwise I would be walking it home. That's why I love EUC world on bt. I wish IM app worked on bt only.😃

[@Lfreeman98]

Thanks for your time, commitment & entertainment Marty.

[@steveo6034]

I never run my battery that low anyway so I'm not too worried about it. I do love the low battery switch that adds more battery to get you home at a slow speed; I'm sure IM will get it right. Thanks for that test, it'll be interesting to see home my production wheel fares.

[@Papalou1234]

Steve O iride low iam heavy lol Nikola 100v let me ride 19kmh at 3% at 20 it tilt me back🤣 and the msx 84v does that too.

[@h3Xh3Xh3X]

I've been holding my breath for this and OHH

[@416-Toronto]

Good job Marty - I enjoyed that in 4K. Meanwhile, everyday is an eternity while I wait for my V11 to show up.

[@adrianmartinez2431]

Dear Marty, your videos are amazing. Thank you for sharing your experiences with those of us who are lovers of the EUC.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Many thanks!

[@cheefussmith9380]

Great views from that trail! We have a nice long one where I live in NC, and it’s beautiful but almost all in the woods.

[@futurespeed8694]

You are the man Marty .... lucky u r fine

[@slidersgliders5516]

Awesome video buddy 👍 you do the best real range testing 👍. Keep it WHEEL ✌️

[@ericrobins5188]

Great speed test brother that looks amazing

[@kurtniles8642]

Thank You! I appreciate the service you do for the community.

[@RobUKTH]

Hi Marty. Everything's was looking really good until 20:31. Glad you're ok 😮. Despite the excellent range figures, InMotion clearly have more work to do!🤔

[@Stan0619]

Apparently, Inmotion has a history of abrupt tilt backs when the battery is low. They have been so receptive to consumers needs with the V11, and I am surprised this is continuing. Marty, do you think this is how Inmotion wants their EUC’s to respond, or is it a problem they want to fix? I am a strong supporter of this channel, because you deep dive into the wheels. That deep dive exposes possible faults, and strengths of the wheels, which protects us, the enthusiasts. Many Thanks

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I provided this information to Inmotion and they had me send diagnostic logs to them. From from Liam told me, the tilt-back should not have been so sudden. So I think this may be improved with a firmware update. Thanks.

[@ricklulu3572]

I just ordered my v11 and what is crazy is tat I will be riding on the same trails on this video. That's also funny how I recognize all those trails.

[@sauliusbirmanas4956]

I have inmotion v8f. It does the same. You just need to turn off for about 1min. After 1-2 minutes off , turn on and you will have normal wheel position.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Maybe. But the V8F is not the V11 so you can't say what works with one works with the other.

[@sauliusbirmanas4956]

@@ElectricUnicycles you could try it. it works for v8f in same situation

[@Thrillowatt]

I have the Normal V8 and I have the same thing but it's not consistent

[@ElectricUnicycles]

@@sauliusbirmanas4956 I don't know when I'll ride it down to 15% again.

[@FinnBjerke]

As always Marty great content - thx for all the good things you do for us.

[@stealtherider3008]

Cool video! Yup, the rapid battery decline was not good! I think overall the MSP 2500w is the best one yet.

[@DIVA-MC-7]

Instructive review as expected from Marty the GOAT of EUCs What is it they say again "well build"... you can't walk this thing trhough final tilt back, the trolley handle comes off (you might get back pain doing so for a long time), throws you off of the wheel rapidly, NO WARNING?! what is this ? 300€ wheel ? come on ! I do not trust inmotion and i still cannot :s But hopefully for those who will buy it, this could be adjusted by firmware (in the video they say the tiltback is like that and nothing has changed) but i don't know if they are willing to do so. You can say whatever you want about KS, but they never forget about safety first Nice 80km on 30km/h average though.

[@Papalou1234]

Once again Marty delivered great content beautyfull ride and tons of infos. i can't wait to see what IM will do next 👌🏻

[@mikeintampa250]

Hi Marty, that's a shame, because things were going so good on that ride. But that's reality and thanks for exposing it. Hope you made it Backe okay.

[@darkstar4494]

Mike in Tampa good one

[@mikeintampa250]

@@darkstar4494 Lol

[@adamszitas9298]

I don't have a V11 but talking from experience about low battery on the v8f, it does the same thing when it goes below 68V no load. it says low battery please get off or something and then 5 seconds later it slowly tilts back to that position maybe in a span of 5-10 seconds and then stays that way whatever you do until you don't charge it, and the app still shows 11% battery (pretty stupid tbh), looks like this is the same with every inmotion wheel. What you say about the low battery mode and the preproduction wheel my guess was the same that they are not compatible, otherwise the battery reading of around 30% seems right, it will go down to 63V, which would give you around 15 more miles. Thanks for the test Marty, you are again the first person to test this :)

[@pawel.wisniowski]

Thanks Marty, as usual great approach to the range test! Unusual is the final V11 behaviour. Really dangerous! Hope that Liam will let you know what they are planning to do with that, it should be possible to fix by sw update, and hope it will not cause the 2nd batch delivery delay...

[@mpgallogly]

That's a bummer after he stressed how much "safer" it felt when he rode.

[@sautsitumorangkpk]

awesome mate..!

[@darkoflight4938]

I wonder where the wheel suddenly gets more power from in the low batt mode? The power level is what it is and doesn't magically create more juice. Seems to be a great wheel tho!

[@Duf]

I wonder if the 30 second press and hold to completely shut off the wheel would have helped?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Great question. i should have tried that :-( I provided this information to Liam (Inmotion) and he had me send the V11 diagnostic log, so I'm thinking it's a real problem.

[@nastythomashobbs]

@@ElectricUnicycles Hopefully they can sort this out with a firmware update. These guys should be paying you for your work

[@ryandavis4689]

Good to know, I'm contemplating getting one, it may be best to wait a few years and see how they get all the quirks out

[@darkstar4494]

Ryan Davis in a few years the v11 will be antiquated technology. Fortunately this type of problem can be corrected with firmware update.

[@nomoremids1472]

@@darkstar4494 yeah i am getting one but only because im currently riding a v8 and need to upgrade. If your already in the 30 mph class i would wait at least to see the gotway EX before running out to get a suspension wheel. I just think the v11 is the best 30 mph wheel on the market rn and i dont need 40.... yet

[@chato6210]

Awesome ty 🥃👍

[@Sal_The_3rd]

This is the way to gear up, I was confidently gliding around in my gotway until I overpowered her at low battery going uphill and fell forward, scraping hands arms and knees. Ordered the full gear that night. Got off with an easy warning! Question, what camera and stick do you use for your videos?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

See links in the Description

[@xvaldez3284]

That's actually normal for inmotion wheels. They're the most safety oriented euc company so I'm pretty sure it's a safety feature. Granted the first time it happened to me I almost fell cause I wasn't expecting my wheel to kick me off but even if I did fall it would have been a measly 3-5mph crash vs the potential 20mph crash I would have had if it cut out instead. The tiltback really is annoying though. Still has some gas in the tank so it's possible to ride it slowly but it won't let you once you get to 15% unlike begode wheels that basically let you run the battery down to 0%. If they were gonna do that I wish they'd at least have a walk mode or something that let's the wheel run upright but will shut off if you try going past 4mph or something. Fast enough most people would be able to walk normally without it shutting off but slow enough to make it more of hassle than it's worth to ride.

[@jarehelt]

the batteries may not be balanced. My onewheel kicked back at 28% when I first got it. I had to charge it overnight to balance the batteries and havnt had an issue since

[@jbrocks9845]

That was the first thing I thought too.

[@adrianmartinez2431]

Hi Marty, I have a question for you, how can I make the front and rear lights of my V11 stop blinking, it is not in transport mode

[@nor0845]

Isn’t it tiring not being able to change foot position? Can you crouch in an aero position? Thanks for posting.

[@alaingirard1353]

Many times, after a battery nearly complete depletion, this strange tilt angle can be "repaired" by recalibrating the sensors.

[@PaulA-pm3gx]

Nice testing. Is the extended range option on the app allowing the battery drain further down than what it is programmed to do? Have found that sometimes when a wheel has been turned off and back on, the app also needs to be switched off and back on again. Not sure why, but it seems to help. Same with a bluetooth music app, it needs to be switched off and back on, if the wheel has been switched off and back on.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I really don't know since it doesn't work with my wheel.

[@alainle8609]

Hi Marty, thanks for the great video and for willing to be so thorough. Looks like a great cruiser despite misadventure at the end. Care to comment on joy of cruising on V11 compared to joy of cruising on Sherman?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Thanks. To be honest, the Sherman is a better cruiser due to its stability at higher speeds. But the V11 is great.

[@darkstar4494]

ElectricUnicycles Thats interesting to hear. The weight of Sherman seems like it makes a big difference. We’re talking about smooth bike trails though right? I would think that on unfamiliar or imperfect roads, v11 would be more comfortable at high speeds, no?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

@@darkstar4494 Comfortable? Sure. But the rides is totally different. I can cruise at 30-mph on the Sherman on not great roads that the V11 couldn't tackle because it's a much slower wheel. They just ride different. I really don't like comparing the two wheels. The differences are too great.

[@gpsanino]

Hi Marty, thanks so much for your test. I wonder about the tilt position at the end of your test. It seems to me that a possible cause of it, is that the calibration on Inmotion EUC has to be done with the wheel on a "resting". Not on its side not on a standing position but at the position you park the wheel. Since the V11 has a "parking" device, it has its logic to expect that this is the position you need to put the EUC before pressing that button on the app. Have you checked this with Liam? It is very unfortunate that you did not receive the manual or its draft with the unicycle to avoid these issues (like having to put on its side the unit to update the firmware). Thanks a lot and take care.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Yes, communicated with Liam and haven't heard anything back. I'm positive calibration is not the issue. Wheels don't go out of calibration like that. I have since heard from other V11 owners that the wheel do tilt-forward like that when the battery is very low.

[@theaimuse]

So... What was the range? Cant find it in the video.

[@JudasBytes]

can you please do a demo on battery removal on V11?

[@slidersgliders5516]

Do overheat Hill test on this one ?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Next week

[@darkstar4494]

I don’t trust any wheel below 30% battery. Surprised that it behaves that way though, considering IM attention to detail.

[@brutock]

I feel the same way. Once i go below 50% i get nervous and like you anything below 30% makes me realllllll nervious

[@thomase5943]

Not being able to walk it when empty is an absolute no-go. Didn't they test it ? This is reason enough for me to cancel preorder o switch to a s18... didn't they test this at all? Tells a lot about a company imo

[@nomoremids1472]

The v8 walks fine after it drains. I think this is just a firmware issue that they will sort out quickly. Personally it doesnt disuade me at all, if they just match it to the same as the v8 reacts it will be fine. It seems like it was supposed to but maybe reacted to quickly and froze it up for some reason. Just need to adapt that portion of the code to the new control board configuration

[@gliderrider]

NoMoreMids my V8 doesn’t walk fine when drained

[@thomase5943]

@@nomoremids1472 I'm able to ride my ks16 to it's last drop. It will tilt back and beep , sow me down to 5 km/h but I'm always able to get off and just trolly it along

[@thomase5943]

I've driven +2k on this slow pice of s$$$ beginner wheel lol

[@kurtXhecticXpl]

Well, in this case, it would be useful to read the manual ;) Just to know if this "go home" mode is working on this wheel + how to calibrate it.

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

It's a demo wheel with a different board i don't think the IM app works properly on it and it won't say in the manual

[@gamesdean2621]

For this....I sub. Thank you. Looking forward to mine

[@rbrt_lux]

At end where you had trouble getting wheel to straighten up......This may have been asked already but have you tried pushing and holding the button under the lift handle for a few seconds to see if it will self straighten? I think there is a button under the handle?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I did not try this when I had the wheel.

[@very9000]

Tell me, did you speed up your video during editing or did you leave everything unchanged 🤔🤔🤔?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I never speed up any of my videos :-)

[@very9000]

@@ElectricUnicycles Looks very impressive 👍👍👍🤝

[@parapilot09]

Hey Marty. From memory of riding and calibrating my V10, to calibrate I had to tilt the wheel right back on its back edge. I think you said that you had to lie the V11 on its side to change settings. A Perhaps if you had put it in the calibration position if there is one, you may have got the pedals level again Marty, and that extra bit of battery life? Maybe, maybe not? A soft reset with a long press of the power button may have got it back to the upright position again, at least for wheeling?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Lots of options. I wish I had a checklist of the ~20+ ideas people have to fix this, but I doubt any of them would have affected a change. It shouldn't be that complicated. Cycling the power is the most anyone should be expected to do :-)

[@thefoolsarekings]

which drone do you use? and is it easy to just let it follow you while riding?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I don't use a drone. See my equipment list in the Description

[@Roskellan]

I notice you do a slow gentle weave most of the time. Transferring weight from one foot to the other and back maybe. Does this help with stamina and endurance.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I'm not sure. It's just funner than going in a straight line.

[@brutock]

Yes.... i have noticed when you switch weight in the front of your toes on each foot as you carve increases blood flow and circulation. Really helps to get another 10 miles before i need to step off and reat my feet. :-)

[@Matooosh]

did someone get this directly from alibaba?

[@answer629]

Please answer my question. Where is this beautiful place, what city? I'm from another country

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Los Angeles

[@very9000]

Please tell me, with a weight of 86 kg with equipment, what pressure in the V11 chamber would you recommend?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I would use the values recommended by Inmotion and then experiment to find what works for you. It's very personal - what I like will not be what you like. Fortunately it's very easy to change the pressures.

[@very9000]

@@ElectricUnicycles Thank you, what manufacturer recommends the pressure in the rubber of the chamber?

[@Cons2911]

Did you get the bearing issues others are encountering?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

This was a demo unit that I only had for a short while. I experience no bearing issues.

[@guyjemus2706]

Hi Marty, i'm in the process to buy a new V11, do you know if the tilt back problem at 15% battery is still there? thanks

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I don't know if it's there in the very latest production wheels, but it was in the first production release. If I had to bet money, based on how Inmotion wheels work in general, I would say they still have severe tilt-back characteristics at low battery. I can't answer your question will authority though.

[@guyjemus2706]

@@ElectricUnicycles ok thanks for your fast response. i must tell you that i like watching your videos. Your calm approach to things even when frustrating is almost relaxing and a good teaching lesson to watch... keep the good work.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

@@guyjemus2706 Thank you :-)

[@jhaggabarros2864]

Hi Marty, speaking of Brazil, I'm thinking of buying a V11, weight 80kg, can I get a range of about 70km? thanks.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

You can see from my range test that I was able to get that distance and my weight is close to yours.

[@jhaggabarros2864]

@@ElectricUnicycles thanks

[@paulbenvie7269]

What the hell? This was enraging. So, not only is it going to potentially injure me merely because the battery hits the 15% mark, it's also going to be inoperable? Preproduction or not, I'm not considering this one anymore. Your comments on having shock absorbers sold me on getting a wheel with shocks, so I'll keep looking, although it seems there's not many models that have them. Thanks for making the video.

[@davewood1982]

lol such outrage.... quit crying all wheels have 1st batch issues this is why people like marty get these pre production wheels for free it's so they can test them and iron out potential flaws like this, The tilt back can be fixed with a simple firmware update

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I appreciate your concern but I think your reaction is maybe a bit too strong. I've been talking with Inmotion and they believe this should not be happening, so I think a forthcoming firmware update will correct this. AND, most of us rarely ride our wheels down to "empty", so this should be a rare occurrence.

[@nomoremids1472]

Luckily firmware errors are much easier to fix than hardware problems. A simple update rollout to fix a wheel is far easier than replacing parts. So far the v11 is showing to be a sound machine, this may be the one glaring weakness and clearly after this video it will be fixed.

[@gliderrider]

Did you try turning off the extended range feature. Then turn off the wheel. Wait a minute.Turn it back on. THEN turn on the extended range feature.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Yes. It apparently doesn't work on my version of the wheel.

[@mojojojo456]

Please do you tell me what your moyenne speed ? Thanks for the video 🤠

[@ElectricUnicycles]

18 to 20 mph

[@mojojojo456]

@@ElectricUnicycles thanks you so much

[@Pilpup]

Hey Marty, please do respond to this if you don't mind as I just bought one. How are you finding that this machine is holding up over time? anything that you particularly like or dislike? any big dislikes?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Hi. I only had a couple of V11's for testing purposes and currently do now own one. Sorry.

[@Pilpup]

@@ElectricUnicycles ty for the answer :) what helmet ru wearing

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Scorpion - see my equipment list in the Description

[@nulletc]

what's your WEIGHT?

[@tedcook8749]

He gives that info in the beginning of the video

[@nulletc]

ok, it's around 177 lb (80 kg) all credit goes to that gentleman who actually watched every second of the vid!

[@very9000]

Friend, tell me on such a wheel it is really possible to drive a distance of 70 km, at a certain speed?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

At a rider weight of ~175-pounds and a max speed of ~20-mph, this wheel can do 70-km

[@very9000]

Hello. Tell me, what is the approximate speed in this video?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I do all these range tests with an average speed of 18 to 20 mph

[@very9000]

@@ElectricUnicycles thanks 🙏

[@jeremydumoit4487]

So basically 45mi on the V11 vs 41 miles on the S18. Glad I bought the S18.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Be very careful. I have not tested the S18. Apples to apples comparisons are important. If you get 41-miles on your S18 and your riding weight is 177-pounds and you ride at 20-mph, than I'm very impressed. Congrat's.

[@jeremydumoit4487]

@@ElectricUnicycles I was just going by Flyboy's test. No way my fat arse is getting 41mi! :-D

[@oldretireddude]

Especially with suspension why would you not run higher tire pressures?

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

Traction may be and how it handles

[@oldretireddude]

@@ElectricunicyclesUK I would agree with that in an off road setting with agressive riding, but he's already described the ride parameters and it is more of a lengthy pleasure cruise.

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

@@oldretireddude must be some reason why cause Marty usually rides highest pressure that's even without Suspension

[@oldretireddude]

@@ElectricunicyclesUK It could be that he's trying to keep as many parameters as possible the same from wheel to wheel for the comparisons. But if suspension allows higher tire pressures and higher tire pressures give less rolling resistance thus more mileage per charge, then that should be taken advantage of by a test, IMHO.

[@mr_Gurme]

I think V11 more suitable for California rocks, than flat road. Come on Marty, show your skill, burn this thing out on steep hill !

[@very9000]

Hello friend 🙋🏻‍♂️. I heard in the chat that people on the track had a V11 wheel disabled (turn off) while driving at speed. Tell me, have you had such cases?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

No I haven't

[@very9000]

@@ElectricUnicycles Thanks. 🤝🤝🤝

[@timrodriguez1]

🤠👍

[@very9000]

how much speed was moving in this video?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

My range tests are using ~20-mph on the straight-aways

[@very9000]

@@ElectricUnicycles thanks 🙏

[@shinobieuc]

You're going to have to find a new route. A route that if it dies out on you, you're not like 5 miles away from home or your car.

[@Surf422]

Has your software even had a chance to calibrate the battery %? .. run the thing all the way to zero and then fully charge it

[@ElectricUnicycles]

I don't know what "software" you're referring to and whether it exists in the context that you mean. The wheel has many hundreds of miles of use.

[@richguy32]

Not gonna lie, thumnail makes you look like a power ranger

[@thomase5943]

Why in the world does it have to make them silly Bluetooth speaker/ Windows USB sounds?

[@adamszitas9925]

you can just mute it or use any sound you wish with inmotion wheels

[@thomase5943]

@@adamszitas9925 If true that's pretty dope xD

[@MrFenkins]

This unit does not seems to be healthy It should have less battery than the prod model too, right?

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Yes, this is the 1420wh version. So the production model with a working "go home" switch could me get me 50 to 55 miles.

[@MrFenkins]

@@ElectricUnicycles I just pre-paid the Inmotion V11 and it will be my very first EUC.(onewheel I still own probably does not really count) Waiting for the overheat hill with fingers crossed😯

[@wantedkiller23]

I would rather have big tilt back and unavailability to ride at all , then cut out !! At list you can stop , not fall.

[@ElectricUnicycles]

No modern wheel made in the last few years will cut out on low battery. Inmotion's implementation needs to be improved to at least be comparable to all other wheels.

[@revshareglobal7334]

So basically when battery hits 20%, just recharge. Problem solved.

[@RinatZakirovMsk]

Вот примерно этого я и боюсь и не покупаю ни какое колесо кроме ninebot. У моноколеса главное это надежность , колесо одно и возможность аварийной остановки отсутствует.Уже четвертое колесо от этого производителя и ни малейшего нарекания по надежности. Сейчас езжу на ninebot z10

[@Shuttermemory]

First

[@jonikkamalov4599]

stay away from inmotion they not reliable trust me

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

Has the demo version got 1420wh or 1500wh ??

[@OnizukaGTO]

1420wh

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

All i can say is Wow and what an utter shame it didn't let you complete the range test with go home mode which read 33% battery left, you could of got another 15 miles on top of the 48👍so 60+ miles 😊 One question though is the demo wheel 1420wh or 1500wh? The tilt back can be fixed with a firmware update Did you look at euc world app what was the battery percentage on there after enabling the go home mode Thanks for testing this and all your work and walks home 😬 Inmotion should give you a production model for free because it will be over heat hill soon Thanks

[@adamszitas9298]

as far as I know it is the 1420wh very first model

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

@@adamszitas9298 that's even more impressive b then 👍