INSANE COST For 3,000 Mile Service On My 2023 Ducati V4 R!

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Riding my 2023 Ducati Panigale V4 R on a beautiful day and reached 3,000 miles. Took the bike in for service at Rahal Ducati Cleveland and Kyle serviced the machine. The cost was reasonable and the bike is functioning GREAT!
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[@650ib]

Special thanks to Kyle at Rahal Ducati Cleveland for servicing my amazing Panigale V4 R!

[@Waldo1122]

Thanking them for ripping you off 👍

[@lg740xx]

@@Waldo1122you think he paid??

[@bogdan.bye20]

make another video at the next oil change! 🙏🙏

[@lynxeffect84]

How much was your bike ?

[@5635randy]

Bought new V2 had many shavings first 2nd 3rd every change first service $1000 they charged $400 for software fixes and updates biggest POS I ever owned. Engine died at 3k best day my life seeing it down the road. In 14 months ownership 4.5 months at dealer getting nothing nothing nothing fixed. Yamaha never dies.

[@RobertKehl]

I was just guesstimating on the 1k service. All pricing for parts post covid has been going up by a lot these days. But labor should still be about the same or close to what is was pre covid. All I’m trying to say is $500 dollars is a lot to pay for an oil change and a minor inspection. Somewhere in the $200+ range should be the norm. I just can’t see how you’re all ok spending $500 every 1k. That’s maybe 4 days of riding for me. And I try to ride every Sunday clocking in 225-250 miles per day. And it’s not that I can’t afford it.

[@TherealSoloRider]

Superb vid. Great you had access to show the process and the cost. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@takeonetheater]

Great video and totally not worth $500 unless you don't like working correctly on your machine ...yes Kyle is a top-tier technician and total respect to his knowledge Aprilia RSV4 oil change $70 myself, my lift , my tools

[@darylclifford]

But they get you on registering the service with Ducati. Sure, doing it yourself costs oil, a filter and new sump plug gasket - but no service record with Ducati

[@ebrahimmish6868]

200 miles trip on a Clean V4R 🤩Wow this is wildly cool to watch... @650 please take us with you more often when u happen to go long trips

[@aliwoh]

Stunning bike. Pity the only the centre of the tyre will get used.

[@nahbro104]

only a Ducati tech would say that metal shavings are normal on your bike 😂😂

[@Turtle-RR]

not exactly shavings more like fine metal powder, if it was shavings like tiny fingernail would be an issue.

[@ricardoanez6436]

​@Turtle-RR exactly, all bikes have that when you do oil change 🤷🤷🤷

[@FoxTheProducer]

it is normal after break in? Whatchu mean?

[@Turtle-RR]

@FoxTheProducer new machine will have some powder shavings maybe a few fine pieces. Normal

[@FoxTheProducer]

@@Turtle-RR yea thats what i was saying to the dude who commented. Was saying its normal to have them after break in period.

[@briangc1972]

People commenting about metal shavings are ignorant of the fact that those are from missed shifts or forced shifts. Your motorcycle engine shares it's oil with the transmission. Those shavings, filings, whatever you choose to call them are COMMON in every motorcycle and every automatic transmission in every ICE car. I have owned Hondas, Suzukis, KTMs, Husabergs, Gas Gas, Aprilia, and Ducati and ALL of them have had minor metal particles in every oil change. Go drain the transmission oil on your car and you will find the same. Drain your differential gear oil and you will find the same. Use quality oil, change it often and don't sweat the little stuff.

[@MakingItHappenMWC]

at least you are riding it my man. I bought a 23 RSV4 a few months ago. 200 miles only. Just sitting. haha. Bike is sick I won' lie.

[@goodboyringo9716]

Wow , If someone could get 500 for changing oil this would be the only job you'd need. That is a sweet looking bike

[@poundthatpavement652]

Bro at least you ride your V4R and not just keep it as a show piece. 👍

[@650ib]

Thanks man! I agree

[@garethmayfield4014]

I've just bought a 31K mile multistrada with a full service history. Unfortunately it was serviced with a pen and not tools!!!! That's why I didn't buy another new bike. Fed up with warranty issues and dealers that don't do the work!!

[@dadams1947]

I had my 2016 BMW S1000R serviced here in Atlanta this past summer. New Motul oil, chain adjust ( because I hate doing this ) brake fluid flush and change and they cleared out the service light and that was about it. The anti freeze had already been changed and air filter and front brake pads I had done myself. $ 500.00 and change. There’s no telling what a valve adjustment costs. 😮

[@pauljohnson4948]

I recall checking out Ducati's in a Bristol dealer . Great bikes but the service costs were horrendous. Things have improved since then. But still not cheap to buy & run.

[@rlsedition]

And you expect cheap maintenance on a $40k motorcycle?

[@franklinwilkerson2061]

I love Dylan over at Fastlane D but THIS is how you modify a Panigale V4 !! Tastefully. I do not understand glossy forged carbon fiber. Matte finnish with a nice weave is just gorgeous. Dylan's bike looks like he made the carbon fiber in a bucket behind the garage. After drinking a 6'r. And ripping a bongload.

[@dnice4431]

I've ridden harleys, zx14rs, many liter bikes. I do all my own oil changes and if I saw that much shavings on my drain plug I'd be concerned. That was alot.

[@frankeichhorn7979]

Looks totally normal to me

[@pistolpete6321]

Absolutely stunning motorcycle Ib!

[@650ib]

Thanks Pete 🥰

[@Bengy22]

650ib have you seen the big bore r1 kits, 1050cc and there's one that claims 225whp would be sweet

[@wriikiivlogs9745]

Sir,The starting cinematic is awesome 👌 🔥🙏🏻

[@650ib]

Thanks a ton

[@wriikiivlogs9745]

@@650ib You are most Welcome Sir ❤🙏🏻

[@tedmarakas2626]

My 3 Moto Guzzis valve adjustment and oil change is near $750. Every 5,000 miles and the entire thing takes less than 1 hour. That's at the dealer. If I do it myself it costs $75. Now for a Panigale spending this kind of money....sounds reasonable but $500 for an oil change....that's a bit expensive unless they do more work to it.

[@mike_w_21]

Those pipes that turn blue! Awesome.

[@Starbucker3388]

I tried to count how many times you said the word beautiful but I gave up. 😀 Great bike !!!!

[@650ib]

Beautiful 🤪

[@nicolasjimenez9497]

I would like to ask a question. Isn't it supposed that when there are chips it's because something happens in the engine, because it's normal in the Ducati? Thank you

[@alexgolovchenko3791]

Shavings on the magnetized drain plug are a normal part of the break in period, hence the magnet. That's why oil changes and inspections are so important in the first 5,000 miles. The more miles you put on the bike the fewer the shavings there will be, save the negligent miss shift or abusive over revving.

[@jimpanzer07]

Great looking bike ib but I heard that Motul 300V is only good for a few miles of racing, is that causing all the metal shavings on plug?

[@650ib]

No Sir. Motul 300v lasts a long time. I use it in my Panigale V4 R and the engine is strong with 3500 miles

[@TheLiddleBigChannel]

You can never really fully enjoy a race homologation bike on the road as the engine is designed to make power hight in the RPM range and road bike spend far less time at those RPMs plus there is also the huge maintenance cost to bare which can be more regular that most road bikes. At least the 4 cylinder Panigale's are a bit less strained than the early V2's that required valve clearance and bottom end rebuilds.

[@Jonathan-L]

Hi 650ib, please let us know how much the valve check/adjustment will cost when the time comes.

[@650ib]

Will do 🦾

[@viktorskarlatov8227]

I noticed you have the Cordona shifter on the V4R. I had it on my V4S and it malfunctioned from overheating very often. After a while it became so bad that the bike started lurching forward randomly because the shifter started blipping by itself. Almost crashed on a turn. Is this the first bike you've put the Cordona on? Have you had any issues? I also have it on S1000RR and the RSV4 and it works perfect.

[@650ib]

Hey. I've had the Cordona from MotoMillion on my bikes since 2018 when it was on my 2018 V4 S. I put it on my 2019 V4 R and never had issues with either bike.

[@viktorskarlatov8227]

@@650ib Thanks for the reply. That's very interesting. Maybe I got a defective item.

[@650ib]

@@viktorskarlatov8227 I really think you did. Please return it and buy a new one from www.motomillion.com discount code 650ib

[@burner188]

An absolutely amazing machine for sure! But I'm confused. Is this the initial service? Break-in? Usually that's 500-600 miles. Other than that, usually Ducati oil service intervals are either 7500 or 9000 miles. Trying to understand what service interval for oil change happens at 3k miles?

[@650ib]

This was just a routine service visit because of how 'hard' I ride my bikes.

[@mikeashcraft4354]

If you love Ducati, the service charges come with the Italian Stallion. All service department flat rates are outrageous, but then 'cycles right or wrong are considered a luxury sadly.😢

[@shawnshan4524]

Great bike! I own one too. More you ride it, you get more addicted to it. (even it's very uncomfortale)

[@E39M5SPEED]

I’m a Porsche tech. Even on panameras and cayenne Turbo S dealer only charges $380 for oil service and inspection. And it’s nowhere near as easy as on this Ducati. Absolute theft from Ducati Charing $500 for this simple oil service that takes 15 minutes.

[@niptalkshow]

Why didn’t you pull the DB baffles out of the exhaust for the better sound?

[@650ib]

They are out in this video

[@ESBKLife]

See, if you would be willing to turn just a few wrenches, that's $500 you wouldn't have to spend 😆😆

[@sburns2421]

I would do the service myself, although all my bikes are out of warranty.

[@alexgolovchenko3791]

If the owner did the oil change himself he would have voided the factory warranty. It's ok to do it yourself once you learn how and once the warranty expires.

[@ESBKLife]

@@alexgolovchenko3791 Not true. I know first hand that Ducati does not void your warranty for changing your own oil. You just need to keep receipts and document the work.

[@Antmanmoto]

Clickbait! $500 is super reasonable 👍🏽… now I would like to know the cost when it’s time to do the valves

[@goodboyringo9716]

This is the problem and why the cost is 500.00 for an oil change. We have people like this saying 500.00 is reasonable. To me, after paying $40,000 for a cycle the first oil change and check up should be free other than paying for oil.

[@skatman3872]

Over 2000 for sure,Thats why i like jap and bmws

[@master74569]

@goodboyringo9716 I agree with you 100% on that. However you do have to understand that technically when it comes to Ducati as a brand, it's the equivalent of buying an exotic car (Lamborghini, Ferrari, etc). They don't give you anything free when buying those cars simply because if a person can afford it, a $500 dollar oil change would be chump change.

[@colin55594]

That's why you do oil changes yourself

[@andyp9040]

@@colin55594i wouldnt be doing an oil change on a $40k motorcycle. You knock yourself out tho😂

[@deepakdevellore]

Try using Motul 300 V2 , idk how its in USA but in India motul 300 and 300 v2 are world apart in performance .

[@PleadTheFifth_Racing]

Have you had to replace the clutch yet? I have the SP2 with about 1k miles on it but I know FastLaneD had a very expensive clutch replacement at 2100 miles.

[@650ib]

Hi... My V4 R has 3,600 miles on it now and still has the stock dry clutch.

[@kwasiwallace5604]

Try to get warranty to cover it when the time comes. That's what Dylan did, plus he wheelies his duck a lot, 650 doesn't pop wheelies just smack down

[@PleadTheFifth_Racing]

@@650ib Thanks for the reply, that's impressive. Seems like the few people I've talked to are replacing them right around the 3k mark. It should just be the friction disks, plates, and spring kit but I know FastLaneD ended up having to replace the entire basket on his. That being said Ducati ended up covering it under warranty due to the low mileage it occurred at. Cheers!

[@j.taveras8447]

My V4SP2 is at 3100 miles on original clutch, no slipping or issues. I talked to the mechanics at AMS Ducati Dallas, they haven’t had to change many if any SP2’s. I wanted the V4R but was afraid of the maintenance intervals. The said if I rode the bike normal and wasn’t tracking it, that I could actually follow the normal V4 maintenance schedule. I expect some of y’all to get triggered but that’s the Ducati techs talking, I believe them over internet dudes.

[@ilovepizza8263]

@@PleadTheFifth_Racing my 2022 v4 has 5,200 miles on it and i just booked an appointment with ducati dealership to replace my dry clutch as it is slipping now. I dont remember exactly what the dude said it needed (i do remember clutch plates and spring) ... well all in all they are charging me $1,650 for it.

[@Sierrablue03]

Doesn't Motul 300V breakdown quick and its just for the race track? Most people change it after each race weekend or 1000 miles.

[@650ib]

It doesn't break down quick and it's not just for the track.

[@davidpiscione663]

Best part of the video is a part that wasn’t intended to be in the video, me yelling “I’m here to ruin your video”😂 thanks for being a good sport about it! Also very nice seeing Kyle on the channel.

[@650ib]

haha. that was funny indeed!

[@andyhollund493]

Is this the PCX version of exhaust ?

[@focusrsawd5034]

No leaks on the bike 😂😂 well of course not it’s a brand new bike , 3,000 miles is nothing , I have a Busa with 30,000 miles and not a drop of oil .

[@ilovepizza8263]

well its a ducati so the fact it hasnt broke down in the first 3,000 miles is a big deal ok

[@Snotroggel453]

Zx10r here, 37.000 miles and never skipped a heartbeat😄

[@danielalcazar8160]

How is the heat compared to previous models? My V4R melted me.

[@650ib]

It's not bad at all.

[@sladestryder5264]

Ill be taking my zx10r to kyle around spring time 😂😂 get a little service done !!

[@kroot47]

Bring it in sooner! Spring time it will be super busy. Bring it in now and it will be in and out super quick.

[@jeanmilaalvarez]

Jolie vidéo merci ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[@robertsole9970]

The dealer over filled mine at its first service, leading to my clutch slipping. So I did the next one myself.

[@ilovepizza8263]

my water pump went out and ducati blamed that on my because i did my own oil change ... the bike is great but their service is like 3rd world country service

[@WarthogCy]

Nice vid. Let say you leave on Friday for a trip and come back on a Sunday. Which bike will you take?

[@650ib]

Multistrada V4 RS 🔥🔥🔥

[@WarthogCy]

@@650ib I should have said superbike 😁

[@kroot47]

@@WarthogCythe multi v4 RS that he’s referring to is a “superbike” it’s a multistrada with the Panigale engine in it. Makes 200hp

[@1972eyad1972]

Everything in USA INSANE, I have the same bike and pikes peake , both of them costing me 260 USD in my country .

[@Waldo1122]

Yep because dumb people go into the dealership and accept those prices. If everyone refuses to pay those crazy prices then the costs would come down.

[@jasong546]

I agree that you should ride the bike you want the way you want, from day 1. No one else has a say.

[@ERICK4431]

Wait a minute!!! That bike didn't come with electric Ohlins shocks? Manuals? 😮 Not that I don't like manuals I prefer them over the elctronics but I was under the impression that bike had the expensive eclectronic ones.

[@jpslaym0936]

I dont understand owning one of these if not racing or if not living near miles and miles of twisties A commuter bike? Why

[@650ib]

I ❤️ hearing the sound of the bike with its awesome Akrapovic exhaust. The power the bike makes, amazing quick shifter and autoblipper and how beautiful the bike looks. I enjoy talking with people about the bike when they see it. It's a different experience from riding it on a track. The back roads are amazing too.

[@ilovepizza8263]

buy one and see for urself

[@johnnyappleseedz422]

Post a 60-130 Dragy time please. Thanks

[@keyboarddancers7751]

$40k is not a lot to spend on a luxury vehicle; think of the cost of any equivalent supercar.

[@650ib]

I agree

[@williamwintemberg]

Beautiful Machine!

Mindsmash 💥 breddah

[@rickseconds7676]

Full service on my 19 KTM SDGT was under $500. I believe those prices are very reasonable.

[@Thean25]

Hello Mr ib I’m a top fan of bike build series from you doesn’t have doesn’t made build series bike. Anyway I love bike like you my bro from me at Poipet city cambodia hope one meet you once time in my life❤️#weareonewherloover

[@Instantjell007]

Ducati just makes a beautiful bike gah

[@pb68slab18]

5000mi dealer service on most top-tier mid/rear-engine Ferraris runs about $7500.

[@dandangsxr]

😮 $500 to tell you your oil and filter were fine. I ride a 2002 gixxer , and I can assure you that I don't spend that kind of money making sure my oil and filter are fine. Cost of owning a Ducati I suppose

[@mcbobjr23]

What gps speedo is that?

[@rickyjackson197]

My cuzzo has a V4R,he says the maintenance is crazy on this bike!

[@Waldo1122]

It really isn't, the dealers are scammers.

[@rickyjackson197]

@@Waldo1122 nah,ducatis are very high maintenance bikes just like Harleys

[@Waldo1122]

@@rickyjackson197 No, no they aren't and Harley's are not high maintenance. Harley's don't require valve checks. High maintenance isn't 9000 mile oil changes and 15k and 36k mile valve checks. New Ducatis are low maintenance and easy to work on as you can see in the video, the stealerships would love for you to THINK they're still hard to work on so they can try to justify their insane prices.

[@rickyjackson197]

@Waldo1122 that's true but u can only get ducatis maintenance buy the people who sell them

[@Waldo1122]

@@rickyjackson197 Any shop will work on a Ducati, maybe not a valve check but most shops will gladly do an oil change and other maintenance. And you can do the maintenance yourself. The stealerships WANT you to think they're the only ones that can work on a Ducati but the reality is, it is still just a motorcycle.

[@v4r-retard]

Lol. In my country, its just 200 USD for general service. But yeah the valve clearance does cost a bomb

[@signore-solomonare1818]

The only fee I can pay is to reset the maintenance interval lights on the dashboard, besides I done my oil change anytime I see the oil color change for yellow-gold to dark yellow, 3k->4.5k Shell oil. Ducati tells you everything you need to know about their machine and maintenance schedule, just that you have to tools 🧰

[@johanboes1]

Did he start it without oil in it? After starting he fills it? Hope i am wrong.

[@650ib]

You're wrong.

[@ats1029]

When you have money to buy that Kind of Bike, You better have the Money to Treat it right too.. I would have done it myself at home. Like I Always do on my Bikes

[@parthasarathy5222]

Why not ducati oil? It produces more hp right

[@650ib]

We have to test the Ducati oil vs Motul 300v. Ducati Race Oil has to be changed every 500 miles.

[@ironDsteele]

Nice to see someone riding one of these that's not a trailer queen.

[@650ib]

Yes indeed! I ❤️ this bike!

[@ironDsteele]

@@650ib If it were in my budget I would have one. If I were rich I'd also buy a Suter 500 2 stroke.

[@650ib]

@@ironDsteele the Suter is a great bike 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@CaliMotoTV]

3000 miles!! Mine is at 1600 so far.😂 Best panigale I've owned so far.

[@naterater2330]

wait what? I haven't seen it on your channel yet

[@CaliMotoTV]

@@naterater2330 😉

[@650ib]

Thanks Bro! They're great bikes indeed!

[@CaliMotoTV]

@@650ib 😉yes buddy!

[@artmchugh5644]

This is a ways back but i had the 3000 mile service on my 2001 ST2 at 24,000 miles ran great before, ran great after ,and ran great when sold with 202,000 miles on it!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@sicks6six]

I would have thought anyone who progressed to owning a machine like this is more than capable of changing the oil, checking and adjusting the chain if necessary and giving everything a close-up inspection, brake linings wear check, disk thickness etc, TBH I wouldn't trust anyone to work on a machine like that if I owned it, put tyres on it and that's about it, id think this work DIY should cost about £75 - £100

[@mattsloop2736]

What could possibly need done in 3k miles? First service you can do yourself or take it to a dealer. Then after that oil changes are 7k or so miles.

[@takeonetheater]

If your on the track every other track day is an oil day ...if you love your machine and ride it in the upper range 3k is better unless your cruising

[@allnighterist]

You have to service this bike every 3K miles?

[@brianmilosevic8400]

WOW! I know you're excited But 3,000km everything should be %100 right I mean the cost $$$$$ of that production racer,you would expect it, surely

[@inamuchangel]

that metal shavings are normal on your bike ? are you ,what it is not.

[@the80sguy72]

How much for the bike

[@Gassed_up93]

How much?

[@MatrixDesigner85]

For a V4r that’s pretty reasonable actually 😅

[@Waldo1122]

No it isn't, Ducati purposely made the oil changes easy on their latest bikes. Just because a vehicle costs a lot doesn't mean the services need to, especially when the manufacturer designs the service to be as easy and quick as possible.

[@MatrixDesigner85]

@@Waldo1122 Yeah, I’m sure Bugatti owners are up in arms about their 20-25k oil change

[@Waldo1122]

@@MatrixDesigner85 Considering most if not all Bugatti owners are buying the car as an investment then yes a 20-25k oil change will have them up in arms. If that is how much they're charged in LABOR!

[@sburns2421]

Servicing is no more difficult than any other bike

[@mehmeteren8700]

3000 miles and still running brilliantly 😂😂😂😂

[@russellvonastel7111]

Welcome to Ducati, get a Honda fireblade

[@mybikebits]

Lovely bikes :-)

[@650ib]

Indeed!

[@firestorm755]

Only on an Italian bike would lots of metal shavings be nothing to worry about! Awesome bike though

[@sjaakvandam2170]

500 bucks for an oil change lol. If you DIY it will cost you $60.

[@848evo4]

300v and a filter are about $85-$105 but I agree with the diy, some people just aren't capable though

[@sjaakvandam2170]

@@848evo4 55 euro's for 4L at my first google search. Not sure about dollars but ok, ill make it €70. Lol.

[@sburns2421]

@@848evo4 Some guys think overspending for the basic stuff somehow makes their experience more special.

[@ilovepizza8263]

@@848evo4the thing is ducati sort of holds ur bike hostage by saying u will void ur warranty

[@fichocr]

Me being your mechanic wouldn't put that oil in your motorcycle. Ducati recommends Shell and it's of a reason...

[@silviosirianni9260]

After the lovely explanation of removing the oil cover… he cuts it out😖

[@Doggebe]

100 dollars in parts, 400 dollars to do it lmao

[@kwasiwallace5604]

Thats Ducati for you

[@Waldo1122]

@@kwasiwallace5604 Nope that is scammerships for you. Ducati didn't make them charge insane prices.

[@kwasiwallace5604]

@@Waldo1122 😂 true

[@kroot47]

@@Waldo1122 they actually do set pricing my man.

[@Waldo1122]

@@kroot47 No they don't buddy that is why different stealerships charge different prices, the big cities usually cost the most. Ducati wouldn't tell dealers what to charge because then they'd be liable to any crap stealerships try to pull.

[@RepoakaHIMMYHIMMERSONEsquire]

Ib been missing you brother. As usual….Take something later lol

[@kennedyracing7527]

Why do you still run with baffles still in the exhaust

[@650ib]

There is no baffle in this exhaust.

[@kennedyracing7527]

@@650ib yes at the very ends of the exhaust. One screw on bottom of the cans and then they pull out and it will make more beautiful sounds and power. Watch your buddy Motomillion video on his SP2. I pulled mine out as soon as I got it

[@650ib]

@@kennedyracing7527 hey, we already pulled them out. That screw remains. I think Mani drilled his out. Lol

[@chriswest2290]

$500 is a ridiculous amount for that small service

[@t20f70]

If you choose to have hyper-expensive motorbikes, you can't be surprised and complain about very expensive servicing... it seems obvious to me. Beautiful things cost money.

[@MynameisDarko-ln5ts]

Actually, I thought it would be close to S1000.

[@The_David_the_13th]

That is such a beautiful machine. It’s probably the best looking sport bike of all time. 😍

[@Lyingleyen]

.... Or Until the next iteration comes along....

[@Iou_iou]

Why motul 300v and not shell ??

[@steves365]

Motul is the best. In my gsxr1000 only motul.

[@650ib]

Motul makes the best oil and I 🔥 it's green color.

[@Iou_iou]

@@650ib yes but Ducati claims more hp with shell oil 🤔🤔

[@sp00ky1969]

@@Iou_iouThey claim a power increase with a specific Shell oil. If you use that specific oil then you have to change it extremely often.

[@Iou_iou]

@@sp00ky1969 ohh I see Motul v300 are also racing oils I used them for my motocross with 10hours life time Aren’t those for some heating periods ?

[@williamlake1077]

You got plenty of change for the service

[@Waldo1122]

Doesn't change the fact that unscrewing a couple bolts isn't a $400 job.

[@bfarm44]

It’s a Ducati, but a Honda you want to save money

[@67daltonknox]

Wait till it has a mechanical after the warranty has run out. You'll need a second mortgage on your home. That's why I dumped a 2015 Multistrada. Oh yes, and the fact it was a POS. Currently happy with a 2020 1290SAS.

[@jayzee1968]

Price to play. No posing there.. :)

[@Stevendag]

Im at 11.5k on my sfv4s and i love every bit of mile i put in it ,the r is dope but in my opinion its more track then street bike

[@lg740xx]

Did you actually pay yourself?

[@lamelajohnandreih.4042]

is this Bike reliable ?

[@650ib]

Yes indeed

[@lamelajohnandreih.4042]

@@650ib Wow, Good to hear that sir.

[@youtheman24]

1000 dollars for my multistrada 1200 at 15000 miles

[@Waldo1122]

You got scammed.

[@gabiwabi123]

@@Waldo1122that’s a desmo and belt service I believe, so 1000 is normal. However 500 for a oil change… that’s tough.

[@shawnbeck1972]

"INSANE COST"? Isn't $500 about average for a full service at any dealership for any brand?

[@tomtaylor6163]

Get a Honda VFR and forget the $$$ for maintenance