INSANE Print On Demand News That You Probably Missed...

[@WholesaleTed]

🙋 My Print On Demand news video series - do you like this? Please let me know, YAY or NAY? 🤔

[@lisawilton9582]

Yay!

[@maiaallman4635]

Yay!

[@saskiasia]

YAY! I love these videos and this one's got super great info. I have tried the Dall-e along with your video and got some nice designs. The problem is how to get a really good resolution. None of them are 300 DPI or more. And where do you sign up to get some of that Canva cash? :) Thank you Sarah for your work!

[@Meloyadina]

Absolutely Yay!

[@m2mdohkun]

Yayyyyy!

[@birdy-bee]

There's never been a more exciting time to be in POD with all of these new apps! It's renewed my enthusiasm tenfold. And yes, Sarah, please keep these roundup news videos coming-- it's a great way to keep up!

[@nirellediamond]

I'm definitely LOVING the news videos! I feel like I finally know what's going on

[@thibautisserant]

Thank you for giving news and being upfront about them. I'm about to embark on this journey and I am *very* thankful to you for all your help and advice.

[@WholesaleTed]

Thank you! Yes, all industries have good, bad & sometimes, just weird news. If you stay on top of it all, you can get a huge advantage!

[@aaronyoung8716]

Hey wholesale Ted don't stop with the print on demand series I am learning lots on these videos. Ty for this video.

[@StatProductReview]

Last I checked Dalle-3 through Edge didn't allow commercial use. Is this still accurate? Or did they change their terms of service?

[@arraybabe8514]

The trouble with ornaments has always been the godawful quality. No point selling 20 ornaments if you have to refund 15 of them. 😒

[@israelquito3072]

THANKS FOR THE INFO SARAH!!👍👍👍👍

[@HorrorSFManiac]

I think Redbubble also went about it the wrong way by charging artists up to 50% of their profit, which cause a lot of people to leave, and not improving their mockups, not modernizing their website, not improving the print quality, not including plus sized clothing.

[@lyndaolave7639]

Sarah, you are seriously the best with sharing your knowledge. Thank you so much. I love your videos.

[@janisfoong6022]

Sarah, these series are so invaluable , keep me up to date with what’s going on in the POD space. Please keep these going.

[@Uratz]

Problem with all these Ai assited programs to make Art and literature is there will be more makers than consumers and the market will be over saturated until no one is making money .

[@WholesaleTed]

The thing though, is that making money isn't really guarded these days, by art ability anyway, thanks to apps like Canva with huge libraries. Instead, it's about ideas. It's about having a great idea. And AI art can turn your idea into a reality, but it can't come up with the idea for you.

[@twisted_dot]

@@WholesaleTed I'd say even more. It's the matter of idea and more typical tech knowledge and merchant instinct. And a bit of luck like always in any business :)

[@charitydwrites]

​@@WholesaleTed AI actually can help a lot with idea generation

[@WolvesandWhatnot]

I have never seen a direct image from Dalle3 that’s worth the time. It’s lousy. I would love to see you use it in real time because I sure as hell can’t get any of the images to be worth even looking at a second time, let alone printing on something. I just tried the typography thing and it greatly misspelled every single one of the four words I asked for.

[@Merricat66]

Love these news updates!!! Really great info in a quick, informative format! Thank you!!

[@thewonderalicelife]

Microsoft bing can't use for commercial

[@prettypinwheels]

Thanks for the great updates as always! Your update videos have so much value for viewers, thank you!! ❤️

[@BariatricFitness]

Printify has wrapping paper as well

[@WholesaleTed]

That's true. And they have a cheaper starting price too. Plus I love SPOKE who sell it, I've had great experiences with them.

[@AliWade1971]

I use Zazzle for wrapping paper

[@drgdfhg]

Sarah? I'm reading your pdf book about the 6 steps that 6 figure online stores follow... And I'm reading Step 3 at the moment. You are such a sweetheart kind soul!! Really! 🌹🍀 *continues reading* 📚

[@kristiemao4275]

The only problem with Dalle-3, so far, is that they don't allow you to use the things you create there for commercial use...yet.

[@kerry8514]

Any response on this?

[@zzurmzp]

A very good reason why you should learn to draw: Many AI-generated machines have filters for the images you want to create. I mean, cute puppies are fine, but there are too many cute puppies out there! Andrew Loomis has very good learning books, you can just start with "Fun With A Pencil: How Everybody Can Easily Learn to Draw". As you improve your drawing skills, you may not get rich, but in time you will develop your own style and make enough money to support your way of living...

[@angelt2984]

Love these Sarah thank you!

[@Charles-Sweeney]

Thanks for the news, Sarah!

[@ANGELROB_YTC]

The credit system is there because it's about priority and it's about server overload so long as you got credits you become priority but when you run out you're no longer priority is the way they deal with traffic

[@WholesaleTed]

Absolutely, I don't mind paying it. Plus it's nice to have options. I'm a power user, so I pay for Midjourney's biggest plan. That then subsidizes it for others, which is great because then everyone gets to use it.

[@MA-bo4yv]

Can we use bing image creator for commercial purposes?

[@audriusmentorius]

Hello from past Sara! ❤ Nice to see you again ❤

[@WholesaleTed]

Hello! Lovely to see you this Friday morning 🌞

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

Again, great info.

[@DionRose]

Was going to try doormats then saw "Standard from USD 18.19" on shipping ugh.

[@WholesaleTed]

If you check the shipping from other Etsy sellers, my guess is their shipping is probably not too dissimilar. It's normal to charge shipping as a separate charge. I do, most Etsy sellers do, a lot of people think they need to offer shipping for free, but you don't. And for a big bulky item like that, shipping will inevitably be more since it can't fit into a standard postage bag.

[@avanjob205]

damn , this should become a regular series :D

[@Thazofobik]

Love these video Sarah

[@ArmySigs]

You should change the name to Wholesome Ted - you're just so adorable!

[@hanikaraitiana4381]

Does newzealand have a drop shipping or print on demand community?

[@hendrikdahl5637]

Definitely Yay! Very informative. Please keep going. Thanks.

[@Nasauniverse001]

Laws and copyright issues have to be monitored as new innovations come online, should be revisited, reviewed and rewritten to keep up with changes, and even anticipated. Things are changing so fast that the powers that be have to be up there and on their toes

[@matthewjsparks]

Does anybody create anything without prior influence?

[@creativeKayt]

Yep! The news videos are great and helpful. Thank you!

[@TulipWife]

I can't find where to apply to be paid to create AI images on Canva. I've been using that a lot.

[@elainekingi8737]

You're amazing Sarah!!!!!! of course you have to be a "fellow countrymen" and absolutely love what you're doing.......go kiwi girl.....yay!!!!

[@terrencewlowe]

Dall-E cant be used for commercial use. So can;t use for POD

[@WholesaleTed]

That's not true. Who told you that? From Open AI's own Content Policy: Can I sell images I create with DALL·E? Subject to the Content Policy and Terms, you own the images you create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise - regardless of whether an image was generated through a free or paid credit.

[@terrencewlowe]

@@WholesaleTed Thanks for all the great content BTW

[@terrencewlowe]

@@WholesaleTed its on their website

[@mathieul4303]

Dall e 3 doesn't seems to be really free, you have to use tokens

[@WholesaleTed]

It is free. I explained the tokens in this video - you get 25 free boost tokens currently a day, and that speeds up the image generation to a few seconds. Once you're out of tokens, you can generate unlimited images for free, but you'll be throttled speed-wise. Depending on how loaded the servers are, it might take 30 seconds, it might take hours. People have had a lot of variation. So you can still use it for free, but it's obviously much better to use when you have Boosts available.

[@mathieul4303]

@@WholesaleTed I tried it, you're right

[@trioorti]

So Dal-E3 can be used for commercial purposes?

[@WholesaleTed]

So - I’m not a lawyer, I can’t give legal advice. But based on my understanding, any AI image created by any AI image generator - whether that is DALL-E, Midjourney, Ideogram etc can be used for commercial purposes because no one, including the image generators themselves, owns the rights to them. The copyright office has ruled that AI images have no copyright protection, so they cannot be licensed by anyone, including the image generators themselves. Since no one has the rights to them, anyone is allowed to use them as they please. I discussed it in a video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXPFlndpl6t1kJIsi=2JjQN5-htegoRsDj&t=99

[@trioorti]

@@WholesaleTed if that's the case then why does Midjourney have the payment structure? >_

[@WholesaleTed]

Midjourney (and Bing, too) still have every right to charge money to use their app. If you want to use Midjourney's app, you have to pay. But those images that do get generated, have no copyright protection.

[@edgaroropeza7308]

Great video, thanks !

[@DrMindbender60]

Thanks! You are such a big help!

[@traceyp2221]

Yes! I enjoy and learn so much from these videos.

[@modeep4331]

I am please to say that this is one channel that I automatically give a thumbs up before I've even watched it because I already know the info is going to be solid! 😊

[@manjushrees422]

sarah can you make a video on canva like a tutorial on the ai part of canva or a complete tutorial on it. That would be a great help for many of us

[@veronicah6766]

Have you tested Artist Shops t-shirts and any other products they have? How do they rate as a company and how they treat their artists? They seem to be environmentally aware and have a great return system. Thanks

[@shinyshinythings]

I wonder what version of DALL-E is inside Canva?

[@WholesaleTed]

Unsure, but I think it is DALLE 3. I think. Haha

[@vernross]

Great update!

[@tammypratt6567]

I totally think it's awesome your sharing up-to-date news. Appreciated for sure hand you just read my mind WHEN logged in cuz I have been out of the loop so you read my mind!!!!

[@roundandsquareful]

Dalle has said you can't use your creations commercially. You can't use the one you describe here, either, the one through Bing, commercially, either. From their terms: "Use of Creations. Subject to your compliance with this Agreement, the Microsoft Services Agreement, and our Content Policy, you may use Creations outside of the Online Services for any legal personal, non-commercial purpose." But you can still use it for personal use.

[@WholesaleTed]

So - I’m not a lawyer, I can’t give legal advice. But, actually, DALL-E's take is that you can use your creations commercially, according to their TOS. This is their TOS: Can I sell images I create with DALL·E? Subject to the Content Policy and Terms, you own the images you create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise - regardless of whether an image was generated through a free or paid credit. And I'm not surprised they don't try to restrict you, because if any AI art image generator tries to place a license or restriction on the images created, I do not personally see based on my own personal understanding on copyright law, how it can be legally enforced. Because based on current rulings, it appears like they do not own the images that are generated. It doesn't matter whether that is DALL-E, Midjourney, Ideogram etc. The copyright office has ruled that AI images have no copyright protection, so they cannot be licensed by anyone, including the image generators themselves. Since no one has the rights to them, anyone is allowed to use them as they please. I discussed it in a video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXPFlndpl6t1kJIsi=2JjQN5-htegoRsDj&t=99 To license an image, you must own the copyright to the image. If you don't own the copyright to the image, you have no ability to legally license the image, as it is not yours. Since AI images are not eligible for copyright, anyone is allowed to use them freely.

[@franceswilkerson8682]

DALL-E images made with Microsoft Bing cannot be used for commercial purposes. DALL-E through OpenAI can be used for commercial purposes.

[@shiverwind4361]

love these updates! thanks Sarah. I'm alway really happy when I see one of your vids pop up :)

[@duanezoscin2522]

@wholesaleted Do you find that the the POD products that are printed on fabric.... like apparel, blankets, etc has low, washed out print quality? I have gotten customer complaints about this

[@WholesaleTed]

Eventually they do, but there is no way to stop that, it will eventually erode. If it is washing out within a wash or two from a good print provider, it was probably printed incorrectly and they will replace it for you for free.

[@duanezoscin2522]

@@WholesaleTed I actually meant, they LOOK washed out when they are first delivered. Just poor quality in general from Digital print on fabric

[@WholesaleTed]

No, they should not look that way at all. Either you are using a bad print shop, or there was a printing error, and in that case, they can be replaced for free!

[@anilashahid6808]

Hi sarah i need your favor i did watch your video about shopify for business but my concern is if someone just wanna do desigh tshirt prints and sell how we can do that or if we sell our design to some other website from there they can sale tshirts if you can tell me about this anything

[@anilashahid6808]

@wholesaleted

[@dreamqueenbrough]

I've learned a lot from your videos. I appreciate the work you put into them. I recently created my first design on Red Bubble. Now I'm wondering if I should take down?

[@WholesaleTed]

No no, absolutely not. RedBubble isn't going anywhere. They just expanded their business too fast with too many staff hires, after their covid boom. Lots of great companies, like Zoom & Shopify did that too. They have just had to go back to their pre-covid expenses is all! RedBubble is one of Australia's biggest startups & has lots of investors, it is financially stable.

[@AmandaProctor-y8q]

Do you have any information on Etsy no longer allowing POD mockups? Confused on what is and isn’t ok… lots of Etsy Stores being suspended/closed.

[@WholesaleTed]

Warning, this is a long response, LOL… So, periodically, Etsy will do a large-scale sweep, using their bots, to identify stores that are violating their policies. For more than 99% of legitimate stores, they are unaffected. However, a small number, less than 1%, do get affected, including this most recent sweep. A big range of stores have been suspended, including handmade stores, digital product stores and print on demand stores. These stores have all been sent the same email, stating that they violated the “Handmade Policy.” When sweeps like this occur, people often speculate and rumors start to spread about why stores have been banned. This time, the rumors are that mockups are the cause. This is a rumor, it has not been announced by Etsy. And Etsy has posted no official policy against mockups. Almost all stores on Etsy use mockups, and more than 99% of those stores are still up on Etsy, selling their products, like usual. In reality, a very small number of stores, relative to the number on Etsy, got impacted by this most recent sweep. When Etsy does these widespread sweeps, they usually incorrectly suspend legitimate stores in the cross-fire. As frustrating as this is, it is very common because large-scale websites like Etsy (and others like KZbin/eBay etc) have to use bots to manage their user base, and bots make mistakes. I really dislike this, which is why I've said many times that I have chosen to build a business that is not reliant on just 1 platform (such as Etsy, or KZbin, etc) for this reason. Since rumors about why these stores got suspended usually turn out to be false, since it’s more often than not a bot issue, and given that the other 99%+ of stores were not suspended, I really doubt this speculation is true and instead: 1) These stores broke other rules in the Handmade Policy that they didn't realize. 2) Were incorrect bans by imperfect bots which, again, always occurs during large-scale sweeps and are usually reversed, but is still immensely frustrating. I do think it's important to keep 2 things in mind though: #1: Most accounts created on Etsy are not legitimate. For large-scale websites, most account signups are spam/scam signups. To protect their user base from these bad players, they do have to do large-scale sweeps and the only way to do it is with bots. As frustrating as it is, this large user base also enables new users to take advantage of a huge amount of free/low-cost traffic on the platform. It is a necessary evil although I do personally wish more could be done to not hit legitimate accounts in the cross-fire, but it is a difficult situation. #2: This is actually a very small amount of stores and listings affected - less than 1%. I can't give an exact figure, other than it is absolutely less than 1%. But, whenever this occurs, that minority are, understandably, the loudest. Fair enough! However, within Etsy discussion groups that include these impacted individuals, this creates an echo-chamber. It can feel like a much bigger, wide-spread issue than it really is. Most users have no idea that there has been a sweep, because the vast majority of products (which also feature mockups) have been unaffected. If Etsy does make a new ruling/announcement that they have decided to not allow mockups, I'll absolutely post an update, but the honest truth is I doubt they will. Instead, I suspect the most likely outcome is that, like usual, some stores just got incorrectly hit in cross-file during a standard sweep. And quite a few will be quietly reinstated. It has happened plenty of times in the past and, just like now, led to a lot of discussions/rumors about why it occurred when in reality there was no reason, it was random, which is exactly why it was so confusing.

[@eurekaelephant2714]

@@WholesaleTed thanks for writing this detailed reply.

[@WholesaleTed]

@@eurekaelephant2714 Etsy has since clarified that yes, yes you can use mockups, so my guesses were right!

[@eurekaelephant2714]

@@WholesaleTed ok. Thanks for the update!

[@philosophactory]

Love your work. Really appreciate it.❤

[@tmv820]

Yay! Yay! For sure! Keep it up! 😀

[@coolaunt516]

Can you ask the AI program to add a printed phrase and is the art owned by you or by the AI company?

[@WholesaleTed]

You can ask it to add a printed phrase, and as I showed in this video - it can actually do it, which is quite remarkable, but it's still not amazing at it, and Ideogram is still better with text-based designs. In terms of who owns the images? So - I’m not a lawyer, I can’t give legal advice. But based on my PERSONAL understanding, any AI image created by any AI image generator - whether that is DALL-E, Midjourney, Ideogram etc can be used for commercial purposes because no one, including the image generators themselves, owns the rights to them. The copyright office has ruled that AI images have no copyright protection, so they cannot be licensed by anyone, including the image generators themselves. Since no one has the rights to them, anyone is allowed to use them as they please. I discussed it in a video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXPFlndpl6t1kJIsi=2JjQN5-htegoRsDj&t=99

[@duaneborgaes9223]

Totally Thanx🙂👍

[@8bitSpartan141]

As far as im aware, you can't actually sell dalle3 art. Admittedly I have no idea how that would be enforced but idk if I'd risk it with Microsoft

[@CupcakeCottage]

If it’s too good to be true, it usually is. Obviously, they want the information we are asking for in Dalle. They must be using that info to find out what people are looking for and create their own products with that info.

[@WholesaleTed]

They absolutely are trying to encourage us to use it. I mean, I wouldn't call it too good to be true, per-say. There is a saying that if you can't figure out what the product is: you are the product. But in this case here, it is a win-win relationship. They get data, we get images (and gift cards). We're their product, but they're also effectively our product too.

[@williammead516]

Okay law of attraction full effect right now was watching several of your videos yesterday planning designs for starting an Etsy store going to make it today and this video comes up I’m going to take it as an good omen.

[@davidw1324]

good stuff. thank you.

[@karla9026]

Oh wow I have 96 credits on Bing thanks so much!!!

[@aniadrewniok1131]

Dear Sarah, can you help us EU based folks out and talk to your friends at Printful? 😅 they only allow US based sellers to update the return address on the package slip which is not ideal... maybe if enough of us ask for it to be available worldwide, they will make the update! Who's with me?! 😸🙋‍♀️

[@NeoResurected]

I LOVE ALL YOUR MATERIAL. QUICK QUESTION. Are you editing your videos yourself or do you have a team?

[@WholesaleTed]

Thank you! I just have one video editor 🌞

[@eldonmacwood]

There's a difference between training, and downright stealing. All writers, and all artists train themselves on the works of others, and AI does it even more, thus, mixing up all the creators they train on, thus making creations more varied. But when a person uses a platform to write a story, characters, and to boot, the style of an author, that's stealing.

[@julie5786]

Great video, I love how you catch us up on everything. Question, In DALLE3 the pictures you create are they there for everyone to see or can they be set up for private viewing only?

[@WholesaleTed]

There is no way to keep them private. That is one of the many reasons why Midjourney is, personally, right for me.

[@julie5786]

@@WholesaleTed Thank you for the response, yeah I think I'm sticking with MidJourney as well. Could you do a video on how to enlarge the MidJourney pictures and the best product to go with? I love your videos. Thank you

[@gurupartapkhalsa6565]

I also read books and watch youtube without violating their copyright. Consuming ("Scanning") can't be conceived as a violation of copyright by any stretch of the imagination. That said, a _user_ willfully coercing a non-sentient tool into outputting text of more than 80% similarity to a copyrighted work should be held in violation of copyrights. Furthermore, for all Mr. Martin knows, ChatGPT read a copy, or sections of text, of GoT on the internet. As this is not preventable, unreasonable, and irrelevant in any case, the suit is completely absurd.

[@AliWade1971]

I think you have killed Dall-E 3 😂. Asked for an image 15 minutes ago and it is still creating.

[@tjd7964]

Tried it and it takes the correctly spelled words I put in and changes the spelling.

[@WholesaleTed]

It is definitely not perfect at all when it comes to spelling! It's not something I would recommend doing if you want consistent results, but it's a fairly big leap forward that it gets it right as often as it does. Ideogram is still the best when it comes to text.

[@tjd7964]

@@WholesaleTed I wonder if there is some way to negative prompt that. Out of 8 or nine attempts x 4 I got one or 2.But the ideas on them are nice.

[@laughorlearnfacts-psycho]

keep em coming Sarah

[@kris4897]

The thing is etsy close accounts without reason.

[@innocentdavid5643]

Thanks you Sara

[@user-xx6fv4tu2q]

So which print on demand service do you suggest not? 😊

[@thedolenorway]

The Bing create is free for non-commercial purposes, so I think creating print on demand designs with it might not be great.

[@WholesaleTed]

I’m not a lawyer and so I can’t give legal advice on things like this, but my understanding is that Microsoft can’t enforce anything that would stop you, but that is just my understanding, and it’s for 3 reasons: 1) Microsoft allows you to open up images created in Microsoft Designer, which you can then download, and the terms from Microsoft Designer from what I (as a non-lawyer) see, do not limit commercial purposes (as long as they're legal). 2) Microsoft are also using DALL-E to generate the images. Which is interesting because as-per DALL-E, they don't limit commercial use: Can I sell images I create with DALL·E? Subject to the Content Policy and Terms, you own the images you create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise - regardless of whether an image was generated through a free or paid credit. And I’m not surprised that DALL-E don’t try to claim they can stop you, because… 3) AI Images currently can’t be copyrighted, and it doesn’t look like that will change anytime soon, which means that nobody, including microsoft, has the rights to the outputted images that are created. I discussed that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXPFlndpl6t1kJIsi=2JjQN5-htegoRsDj&t=99 So, in theory: you could download an image straight from Bing’s image creator and upload it for personal purpose somewhere else on the internet. You then, as a “business” could then download that image and legally use it however you like, since it is public domain anyway. I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t see how they could stop anybody from using the images. What they CAN do, is stop you from using their WEBSITE for commercial purposes, such as selling services related to it.

[@thedolenorway]

@@WholesaleTed I think you are right! Probably putting that non-commercial clause there to don't have skin in the game if someone uses images created with their service for something stupid.

[@WholesaleTed]

Personally, I suspect that they have that clause in there to protect themselves from lawsuits, lol.

[@thedolenorway]

@@WholesaleTed that was my thinking that they might get dragged into a lawsuit because of someone else.

[@andreaamplified]

Zazzle has the best array of items to buy.

[@squidandchips]

Holy Cow! - Dall-E3 knocks Midjourney out of the park with the stuff I want! 😲

[@Flexibot-AI_Shopify_Chatbots]

It's fascinating to see how AI like ChatGPT is shaking up the print-on-demand industry, pushing legal and ethical boundaries. The struggle of Redbubble amidst expansion is a classic tale of growing pains, isn't it?

[@arawilson]

None of the AI image generators have been accurate in producing text for me, with a 'typographic design' command and quotation marks around the desired phrase, including Dall-e 3. What's the secret?

[@twisted_dot]

I think it's similar problem to hands and precise patterns. It's for some reason unable to keep precision when it comes to regular repeatable shapes. So that's why organics are something that comes with better effects than architecture, font or our typical hand problem. It will definitely change and I guess we don't need to wait much for it but so far it's still not perfect. Yet way better than what we had until now :)

[@WholesaleTed]

There is no real secret, you just have to do it a lot, lol. They are still bad at it, so it is more just remarkable that it gets it right at all, was more my point. The best app currently for text designs is still Ideogram, but it's still not perfect.

[@TunaFreeDolphinMeat]

The writer's unique voice and style are no more. AI can replicate.

[@raywanderer2207]

YAY for sure!

[@PHOTOVIDEODUDE]

I still like Adobe Express

[@y.priscilapires]

The best one! She rules!!!

[@ljwhitmire200]

This is simple: copyright provides next to no protection. When some art style becomes popular, it gets copied all over the place. When GoT hit it big, I'm going to bet there were a tons of new books in that same genre, non of which violated copyright. ALL artist steal. Period. It's super hypocritical to say that any AI is stealing from them. They stole from others, pot, kettle, black?

[@uplanddigitaldreamer]

I’m on dalle 3 and although it’s absolutely awesome. It is limited by copyright limitations. This was all enacted in Oct 10 2024 . I was able to make images of current presidents until that date. In both chatgpt native and bing .

[@WholesaleTed]

I’m not a lawyer and so I can’t give legal advice on things like this, but my understanding is that Microsoft can’t enforce anything that would stop you from using any images outputted for commercial purposes, but that is just my understanding, and it’s for 3 reasons: 1) Microsoft allows you to open up images created in Microsoft Designer, which you can then download, and the terms from Microsoft Designer from what I (as a non-lawyer) see, do not limit commercial purposes (as long as they're legal). 2) Microsoft are also using DALL-E to generate the images. Which is interesting because as-per DALL-E, they don't limit commercial use: Can I sell images I create with DALL·E? Subject to the Content Policy and Terms, you own the images you create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise - regardless of whether an image was generated through a free or paid credit. And I’m not surprised that DALL-E don’t try to claim they can stop you, because… 3) AI Images currently can’t be copyrighted, and it doesn’t look like that will change anytime soon, which means that nobody, including microsoft, has the rights to the outputted images that are created. I discussed that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXPFlndpl6t1kJIsi=2JjQN5-htegoRsDj&t=99 So, in theory: you could download an image straight from Bing’s image creator and upload it for personal purpose somewhere else on the internet. You then, as a “business” could then download that image and legally use it however you like, since it is public domain anyway. I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t see how they could stop anybody from using the images. I should note though that what they CAN do, is stop you from using their WEBSITE - such as selling services or apps that literally use the website.

[@uplanddigitaldreamer]

@@WholesaleTed you are correct. They no longer allow you to use certain names in prompts , most likely because they’re alive. You can do Washington but no Trump. My only thought was that presidents of the US official portrait of the president taken by an official White House photographer is public domain. And you no longer can use it. It probably has a broad filter so we don’t make controversial images in there server since they have rights to it. You can still do it on other sites that allow it . Chatgpt app and Bing App just started restriction of it in there prompting

[@reycaribe]

2024? You from the future?

[@reyestear]

I wonder if they win against chatgpt what would happen to all fanfiction?

[@stefanmatthiascornelius526]

The Bing Image Creator seems too good to be true - and the catch seems to be that you can't use the created images in a commercial way.

[@WholesaleTed]

From Open AI's own Content Policy: Can I sell images I create with DALL·E? Subject to the Content Policy and Terms, you own the images you create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise - regardless of whether an image was generated through a free or paid credit.

[@stefanmatthiascornelius526]

@@WholesaleTed Sounds great! Thanks! :)

[@WholesaleTed]

You can also open them directly within Microsoft Designer, which has no non-commercial clause agreement 🙏

[@stefanmatthiascornelius526]

@@WholesaleTed Yeah, the Bing Image Creator is way better for the intended use ;) Combined with some ai Vectorizer, productivity just skyrocketed. :D Now I just need to learn good typography.

[@canyonmann1]

​@@WholesaleTedSarah I'm afraid there might be a superseding rule. On the Bing conversational experiences and image Creator terms. "7. Use of Creations. Subject to your compliance with this agreement, the Microsoft services agreement and our content policy, you may use creations outside of the online services for any legal personal, non-commercial purpose."

[@RandomButBeautiful]

They will surely not win. You are allowed to read a book and write a new one in the same style. How can they forbid a machine from doing this? There is no actual copying of the content. I could write a book about hobbits and orcs - people have been doing so for decades and they read the Tolkien books. Unless the characters in the books are trademarked (like Disney does).

[@JensGraikowski]

Authors, chill about AI! It's just learning from others and using that knowledge to create new works, like you've been doing for centuries. No one writes in a vacuum. Shakespeare was influenced by Ovid, Virgil, and Plutarch. Austen was influenced by Richardson and Burney. Dickens was influenced by Smollett and Fielding. Twain was influenced by Ward and Harte. Woolf was influenced by Joyce and Proust. Martin himself has said that he was influenced by Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, which he read as a teenager. He has also said that he was inspired by Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian stories. Let's all stop being so possessive about our ideas and start working together to create something new and awesome. Real famous authors (not this bunch of second-raters) are talking differently about AI. Stephen King, for example, has said that he's interested in using AI to help him with his writing, and he believes that AI could be used to create new and innovative forms of storytelling. He's also said, "Would I forbid the teaching (if that is the word) of my stories to computers? Not even if I could. I might as well be King Canute, forbidding the tide to come in. Or a Luddite trying to stop industrial progress by hammering a steam loom to pieces." Here's the kind of author whose ego is not so fragile that he's frightened of machines taking over his job or who's not only writing to make money.

[@BenHeffernanArt]

No doubt this is a really dumb question but how does Chat GPT make money? Surely they'll go bankrupt with all these lawsuits etc? Oh and what does the GPT part stand for? cheers.

[@WholesaleTed]

I mean, it's a good question, lol, one of my previous news videos literally discussed this issue as currently, ChatGPT is on the pathway to going bankrupt: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGKvpZeHgp6HgMUsi=Uc_HiHk7k9uuBDV4 They make their money in 2 ways: 1) Subscriptions to their premium services - which is a lot of money, to be fair. 2) They have huge amounts of investment money from Microsoft.

[@mustbebornagain23]

I am so over hearing that chat GPT is getting sued they're not the ones doing it people are

[@1murkeybadmayn]

*Adobe Firefly* hold my beer

[@tubekrake]

How can they proof that the AI was trained on the books and not just internet articles and comments summarizing the books?

[@WholesaleTed]

I mean, that is a fair question. I didn't get to read the books, so I can't confirm, but I think it was quite extreme in the level of details it used, and was written in a very similar style.

[@MikaTaylorcCreations]

In that case fan fiction should be shut done smh

[@kerim.peardon5551]

All writers read other writers' books and get inspiration from them. Isn't Percy Jackson a copycat of Harry Potter? The issue is when someone uses someone else's trademarked characters, book names, etc. But even then, you're in the gray realm of fan fiction, as you pointed out. Does it matter if a dude writes a Game of Throne fanfic or if an AI writes one? Some authors/publishers don't approve of fanfiction and will have websites take it down or send cease and desist letters. Others don't care or feel like it's beneficial to keeping up interest in their IP, knowing that fans will always prefer what they've created first. But even if an author hates fanfiction and fights against it, it's the person who posts it who is the issue, not the AI he used to generate some or all of it.

[@jorgiewtf]

People are terrified of AI 😂

[@juraganposter]

it is just like sue photoshop, just because someone create copyrighted image on it 😅

[@saulgoodman2018]

But that guy asked it to write a games of thrones book. That is a bad example. This is no difference then someone studying a famous painter, or actor. And then making works that copies them.

[@WholesaleTed]

I think that actually, the issue in contention is that ChatGPT scanned the books, illegally, because it used illegally uploaded books to do so. There is no way for ChatGPT to have read the book, legally, because no legal copy of Game Of Thrones exist online. And so, it would have scanned (on accident) an illegally scanned/pirated copy. And so that is why it is so contentious, compared to say, Midjourney scanning freely available artwork.

[@saulgoodman2018]

@@WholesaleTed They can also be using people articles that they wrote about it. Wikipedia tells you a lot about the book.

[@WholesaleTed]

I mean, that is a fair point. They would have to prove that ChatGPT did scan it in court. Although, I don't think it will reach court. I think the Authors Guild are quite close to striking a royalty agreement and that's what they truly want, lol!

[@canyonmann1]

I'd be willing to bet that those writers and authors trained themselves over their lifetime by reading other people's books. 🤔

[@shinyshinythings]

Writers aren’t trained like AI’s. Writing is a craft. Writers strive to express themselves in original ways. AI’s are trained to produce likely phrases and sentences, based on millions of samples of existing phrases and sentences. They are generative, which is not the same thing as creative. I’ve seen people make this argument before with regard to AI-generated images, and it really betrays a fundamental lack of understanding of what artists (or writers) do.

[@arawilson]

@@shinyshinythings They also aren't then offering to repackage all of the learned material on demand to thousands of customers every hour.

[@oldskool1977]

If you're wealthy then I'm a millionaire!!