New Madrid Fault 2024 Threat: Why The Middle Of The U.S. Could Be Hit?

[@InsaneCuriosity]

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[@jimschaffer8921]

I moved from the frying pan into the fire…. So cal to Nashville

[@Phil-y8c]

@@jimschaffer8921 Nicely asking if you are mindful of left coast voting habits?

[@KTKacer]

I'd consider it, but your poor poor pronunciation just grates my nerves, It's NOT MAD-rid, it's Ma-Drid. So, I just can't. Not even liking it, tbh.

[@decgal81]

@@KTKacer That's the correct pronunciation of New Madrid Missouri.

[@anthonynicholson5523]

My uncle is a seismologist from Nebraska. I live in western Nebraska near the bluffs and we have been having tons of microquakes that have broken windows in homes at worst but my uncle has been studying the new Madrid and is a peofessor at CU Boulder and they have been seeing slipping in the last year that is extremely alarming. He has spoken to the Governor and was basically told to STFU. Because they think the fracking would inadvertently be blamed...my uncle's team says while fracking does play a very small roll and accounts for somw of the quakes but they have MEASURED plate movement in a sub pkate rhat is currently diving. If this plate were to snap, he says a new mountain range could form in a short extremely violent and catastrophic event, expanding the Roku mountains east to approximately scottbluff Nebraska and then an immense drop from the new valley talked about in this video. He says they believe it could a 3 year event of almost non stop violent quakes that would make much of the western United states a very dangerous and volcanic place and ... Yellowstone volatile in ways we would hopefully never survive to see.

[@InsaneCuriosity]

Thanks for sharing!

[@DarlyneGensel]

With no thanks to Trump canceling all Funding for Climate Control on our planet, which sped up the process of global warming over a period of 4 years.. I have been following this ever since the 1960s when governments all over our planet were warned by scientists that the Greenhouse Gases were endangering our OZONE Layer. The layer that was created by our planet to safeguard all life on it! This, in turn, due to the damage, down by the Soth Pole region will be the one to bring our planet to an absolute end!!! I am quite sure your uncle already realizes this! Thanks to Trump endangering our planet by laying off all of the scientists for 4 long years that have been addressing Global Warming & Climate Control trying to slow down the ongoing damage ever since the OZONE Layer was compromised near the South Pole. This process of global warming sped up significantly; Greenhouse Gases escalated this damage quickly thanks to Trump Ampang up the burning of fossil fuels all over our planet. What may have happened9 as late as 2038, is happening much sooner. Now Trump is taking over once again...our Planet Earth doomed 😢😪💔 Trump's Big Plan is to once again Amp up the burning of fossil fuels due to his uneducated greed, and we will al die!!! Please read up on the Atlantic Flow... Once it stops,... Trump will make this happen ASAP! Even Elon Musk's Big Rocket Ship will not be able to save his ignorant Little Life!!! PLEASE READ UP ON THIS!!!

[@rchurch2769]

I thought slipping and movement is a good thing. When the plates snag and hang on each other without movement is a worrying issue. The result can create massive quakes.

[@karenshepherd2412]

And Old Faithful for decades has had it geysers blow predictably, but now, not so much. A indication of something sinister.

[@chevy3759]

@@anthonynicholson5523 that's scary

[@bigdslots998]

The last earthquake i remember in Michigan was right near me. It made a loud cracking noise as the air was silent as i was outside working next to a huge red barn. It shook inside my home. Cracked my basement wall in the center of it leading under my pool outside back to a gravel pit a field behind my home.in front of the home it left a furrow like from a plow straight across my lawn to a pond across the road. Causing the pond to overflow and damaged the barn next to it. My power line pole become a huge sink hole a ripped apart the county drain through my property. The next rainfall it devastated our property with floods which has never in history happened before. It rippled I69 highway which was 20 miles south west of me. They blamed it on heat. It was after this earthquake. To this day that furrow dtill remains on my property as i moved away from this. I believe the next earthquake will be a much larger one for sure. Be prepared people.

[@InsaneCuriosity]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@michellefuller3837]

@@bigdslots998 Was in Monroe MI myself...thought that sonic boom was a bomb drop myself. 😵‍💫

[@anninmichigan]

What city were you near when that happened? I-69 isn’t far from me but it’s a big stretch of road. Just curious.

[@michellefuller3837]

@@anninmichigan Monroe MI

[@anninmichigan]

@@michellefuller3837 I didn’t know I-69 went toward Monroe.

[@silverrain48]

I was crossing the Mississippi River in the late 80's when the bridge started moving, I was stuck behind a pickup pulling a truck bed trailer filled with firewood, top speed 20 mph. Longest time in my life and when I made it off the bridge, I couldn't get my hands to looses from the wheel. I felt the New Madrid fault 2 times while living in AR. Now in NM with no quakes.

[@HollyPhaon]

NM has a few Faults 😂 😳😬

[@silverrain48]

@@HollyPhaon Yes, all pretty inactive.

[@mollysreadings4845]

@@silverrain48 I am thinking of relocating, I've been considering AR or NM. Would you share any thoughts on each place? Thank you!

[@silverrain48]

@@mollysreadings4845 I lived in AR from 1978 to 2003 so 25 years and I would not do so again. It is very hot and humid in the summer and can have very wet winters. I was in the NW corner, outside of Bentonville and Walmart actually spoiled Benton County because of all the new growth. I have also lived in GA, MD, IN, VA, HI, and MO and of all, I like NM the best. At 6000', I live where there are 4 mild climates (it is July 24 and our predicted high is 84 thanks to monsoon rains) and the winters are mild with a few small snows that disappear in a day or two. It depends on where you end up but the only actual negatives I have found living here are wildfires (smoke), and a higher cost of living. Where in NM?

[@sandymiller6994]

@@mollysreadings4845I relocated to Oklahoma from California, and there’s a fault near Sparks, OK, that we had 5.7 in 2016(?). Still have some cracks around the house, but believe we are on high enough ground if the Mississippi River changes course again. Good luck finding your forever place 🙏💖🥰

[@stevenmckamey]

I remember the Nov. 68 one, I was 10. We lived in Indianapolis and it was shaking the tools hanging on the walls in our garage. My grandfather thought it was a large animal on roof or a low glider until we heard later on 6 o'clock news there was a earthquake.

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

damn ,

[@annieh5479]

Our closet doors in the bathroom started shaking - we couldn't figure out what was going on.

[@patriciastaton6182]

That's wild 😮

[@hlinville6034]

Felt a small one in central Indiana 1988 then again in 2008

[@Maybenottoday525]

@@hlinville6034 born in Indiana in 1982 and I can still remember at least one earthquake and I remember also a tornado but I was so young. It’s hard to remember everything or a date. So I would assume it was the 1988 that you speak of.

[@joeanderson8839]

There are an unbelievably large number of old buildings that will crumble in this area.

[@williamking6306]

I grew up in the New Madrid area, and I was disappointed that you didn’t show one picture of our little town.

[@goodone5590]

@@williamking6306 is that good part of spain?, how do locals treat you?

[@acreARES]

😂 I've been down there, to be fair not much there anyway. With love, from Rolla

[@goodone5590]

@@acreARES great love Nola.. bhahahhaha😅 jk

[@williamking6306]

@@acreARES we’re so glad you found your way home.

[@Sheila2024-x8w]

You could have shown some pictures of the sand fields still there from the big earthquake.

[@Stonk_Dude]

Lol I’m not the only one who caught that the middle of the US can trigger and be hit by a tsunami right? 😅😂

[@baneverything5580]

Researchers are worried about tsunamis in Toledo Bend Lake on the LA/TX line because of dangerous earthquake faults in the region. There was a 5.8 in Timpson, TX around 2012 and there are faults in Sabine & DeSoto Parishes in Louisiana as dangerous as the one that caused the highway overpass collapse that time in California. I discovered sand blows everywhere in DeSoto Parish and Native Americans say an earthquake created Caddo Lake in NW Louisiana.

[@WV-TimidCow]

There was a lake that generated a tsunami in Goldau, rock slide caused the lake to tsunami. Village was destroyed.

[@kwilliams2400]

Listen to SuspiciousObservers and he explains it very well. Gulf of Mexico could connect with the Great Lakes. 😫

[@MAGA_Extremist]

​@@kwilliams2400he doesn't mention that Louisiana or Mississippi would get hit with a tsunami maybe I'm looking at it wrong

[@jamiebraswell5520]

​@@MAGA_ExtremistThere was no tsunami during the 1811 and 1812 earthquakes.

[@jasonrogers9169]

Holy crap! This was two weeks ago and yesterday there was recorded earthquakes from new hampshire to illinois south to mississippi.

[@SaintLorena]

There was an earthquake in Texas yesterday.

[@cindybogart6062]

@@jasonrogers9169 I read earlier today they have had 85 quakes the past week on or near that fault line the past week!

[@irisessex90]

Desert Hot Springs, San Bernardino, Wrightwood, Palmdale, Gorman, Frazier Park, Daly City, Point Reyes Station, and Bodega Bay all sit squarely on the San Andreas Fault so if you live there you may want to have an evacuation plan because those people would be sitting ducks. Not trying to scare anyone just have a plan and maybe practice with your children how to move in a moments notice.

[@kimherben7866]

@@SaintLorena Pleasanton, TX (directly SouthEast of San Antonio) has had 3 quakes (up to 3.5) in one week ending on 11/14/24

[@aradia_night-raven]

I'm in the Jonesboro area and I'm kinda shocked this is the first time I've heard that this is in a seismic area!!! Really glad I like documentary vids & found this one! Thanks for the info.

[@InsaneCuriosity]

I'm glad. Thanks for your feedback

[@Og-Judy]

It's an ANCIENT geological feature that's actually called a RIFT zone.

[@Marchant2]

Good video, but I've noticed a trend in KZbin documentaries where a photo of a place is not the place being discussed in the video. For instance, around 1:22, you're talking about an earthquake in the San Francisco area, but the bvideo shows foreign buildings with snow on the roofs. My guess is that's NOT California. Also, around 5:31, you're discussing the crops grown around the New Madrid fault by showing us a picture of farmland in China.

[@marksmith7785]

I so agree, using stock photos of other countries shows laziness. We laughed at this video, forgot what it was about.

[@emilysandstrom2476]

I noticed a street with Chinese writing on it too.

[@DorcasLandry]

A lot of New Orleans pic too

[@jus10lewissr]

In happened in quite a few places in this video, so I'm glad that a decent amount of other people noticed it. Maybe it's petty of me, but I find it annoying. It's almost like misinformation, but in imagery form.

[@sarahmontano8267]

I think it might be AI created.

[@truckinman75]

If the New Madrid goes off basically all transportation between the east and west will be devastated as all bridges will be destroyed not to mention all the roads will be impacted.

[@pluckpluckpass]

@@truckinman75 I mean the Eads bridge has been around through multiple of these earthquakes so I think itll be fine.

[@calledtocovenant3479]

Yes and whole states will be missing as I was given a vision of this.

[@UseByDate-Expired]

@@pluckpluckpass except, that is total bullshit. There has never been a single one of "these earthquakes" there, or anywhere in the center of the United States, of that magnitude, or even half as powerful, since bridges were built across the Mississippi River, Not a single one.. You can look this shit up, you know.

[@mick58kc72]

@pluckpluckpass lol. There were no bridges in the early 1800's when the big ones broke out. You'll probably have to go to Minnesota to cross the river when it happens again.

[@pbc78-p7u]

@@truckinman75 we've got planes 🙃

[@unoffendable3496]

The experts can't predict but Dutch sense can forecast and has accurately sent out warnings. # Dutch Sense

[@kimberlymoore8172]

@@unoffendable3496 dutchsinse is da bom

[@margaretcantlon9960]

Dutch is so accurate they shut him down..often 😢

[@neva.2764]

All his video titles are quite similar. When was that video posted approx?

[@appaloosa42]

@@margaretcantlon9960 he’s currently laying low, under the radar so to speak.

[@denisefarmer366]

@@appaloosa42 It's DutchSince

[@MarieJackson-sp3be]

Someone always drags up the New Madrid fault zone when there earthquakes elsewhere. I felt it in 1968 in Oxford, Miss. Once, that fault made the Mississippi River run backward.

[@breeinatree4811]

I was sitting in the dentists office waiting for my appointment when it hit. We thought a huge truck had hit the building.

[@robertmartinjr.4537]

They bring it up because it is a Seismically active faultline. Just becuse its been relatively dormant for decades doesn't mean it won't awaken. The New Madrid faultline is on par with the San Andreas faultline and Cascadia faultline on the West Coast.

[@pepperpint712]

I felt a tremor early a.m. on July 7 or could have been 6th. Dark out. I was jarred awake by what felt like was a heavy item hitting the floor and making the floor shake and the bed on the floor. I wonder how can I find out about that. I’m in the southern panhandle of Texas. It’s mostly flat here. Farming and ranching. On the Caprock in Texas. Between Lubbock and Amarillo. There are canyons. PaloDuro for one. I’ve only felt one other tremor over 40 years ago further north in the panhandle. Cracked a window. Info is appropriated.

[@pepperpint712]

So Texas isn’t part of that fault line, but we have fracking.

[@robertmartinjr.4537]

@pepperpint712 tracking in Oklahoma caused noticeable quakes from underground subsidence of void natural gas wells. If a underground well is big enough and it collapses in that can trigger seismic activity.

[@whitebird357]

"And there were voices and thunders and lightnings and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty and earthquake, and so great." Rev. 16:18

[@HeleneWheatfield0549]

I think the whole world, with the exception of a handful, can kiss life on Planet Earth goodbye when that one hits.

[@whitebird357]

@@HeleneWheatfield0549 I think so as well.

[@HeleneWheatfield0549]

@@whitebird357 Revelation 7:9 - “After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.”

[@Mountain_bonker]

@@HeleneWheatfield0549No, god has a plan, it says in the bible he will SHAKE us awake in the end days for the final harvest. There will be a great earthquake and there will be death and devastation, but i believe god will create good out of this. It will cause us to help each other, we will all have something in common, it will unite us. There will be a great revival, and god will come down for final judgement.

[@robotswithgunzlol]

Quoting a Bible verse that's so utterly vague it's obviously going to relate to something at some time... not the great move you think it is.

[@Lizanneization]

The New Madrid fault is not far from an existing canyon that runs along the Illinois River and joins up to another huge canyon in Lake Michigan. In fact four of the five Great Lakes are very deep canyons that must have been formed by seismic activity. So if the big one hits it could rip Illinois in two, create a new drain for the Great Lakes right through the Illinois River.

[@garysimon7765]

If rips open the tip of Lake Michigan that leads to the Illinois River then into the Mississippi flowing into the gulf of Mexico a wave 1200 feet high can be generated and be 80 miles wide as the lakes drain. Read that possible scenario years ago...

[@JSmith-ou3sk]

​@@garysimon7765I was just going to mention that.

[@DionPryor396]

@@garysimon7765 gross..🤢

[@jus10lewissr]

The Great Lakes aren't canyons formed by seismic activity, they're giant basins carved out by glaciers from the last ice age.

[@bsteadfast]

Lake Superior was formed from the Midcontinent Rift Zone. An inactive region now, but could be set off by numerous earthquakes happening all at once. Many have had dreams and visions through the years of New Madrid getting a 10.0, and Chicago getting a 9.0 earthquake. Something that massive could activate dormant regions and cause epic disasters. This will happen, but the most important thing is to be prepared spiritually. Are you ready to meet your Maker? Pray for forgiveness and repent of all sin today. You might not get another opportunity. 🙏❤🙏

[@LogicalJay]

I spent two days at Reelfoot lake state park Tennessee and felt tremors several times each day. The town folk said they feel them every day. 2014

[@SOUTHERN_LADY]

@@LogicalJay an earthquake is what formed Reelfoot lake😁 I was taught in school that it's the only natural formed lake in west TN

[@Asti.sayAhstee]

@@LogicalJay daily quakes… could it be from fracking?

[@hcompton8861]

That is important info, ty! Won't hear that from the news nor any geologist or u.s.g.s.

[@rebeccajones8610]

New Madrid Fault is extremely dangerous and no govt isn’t doing nearly enough to prepare. Securing bldgs better than they have.

[@garylagstrom3864]

I live in Santa Monica California (Los Angeles County) used to live in San Francisco. My house is new and built to current earthquake codes for California and the office I work in has been retrofitted to current California earthquake codes. I have a storm shelter with a month’s worth of food and supplies in the case of an actual earthquake emergency. I forgot to add the biggest earthquake I was in: Loma Prieta in San Francisco October 17th 1989. I was at the A’s-Giants World Series game! 15 seconds of pure adrenaline and fear! I’m glad I wasn’t on the Bay Bridge and especially not on the Cypress Expressway!

[@TheSweetnsalty1]

@@garylagstrom3864 I was in Isleton when that quake hit and I saw water sloshing out of a swimming pool. It felt like I was standing on a skateboard sideways

[@rais1953]

If you build in a seismically active zone build accordingly. Follow the example of the Japanese.

[@Thekowaikaiju]

They also have no ancient buildings left. (That areoriginal at all lol) Love that place, though

[@rais1953]

@@Thekowaikaiju Traditionally they built with wood.

[@Kanoee64]

They have built Nuclear power plants on this fault.

[@rais1953]

@@Kanoee64 Yes and as we know, one of them was planned very badly. They tell us the others are better earthquake proofed. Let's hope they're right.

[@mikelouis9389]

​@@Kanoee64 Like the Japanese.

[@edwinarobinson691]

Mt. Rainier has got to be the tallest volcano in America.. but Yellow Stone is a supervolcano 😳

[@labethspain7936]

@@edwinarobinson691 As my Grandmama, who survived the 1906 7.8 San Francisco quake, the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic, WWI, WWII, the 1959 7.2 Yellowstone quake and the 1980 eruption of Mt. Saint Helen’s once told me when I moved to the west coast, worried about ‘the big one’, ~ “ain’t no one gettin’ out of this world alive, Dear” ~ Thanks, Gran…I haven’t worried since 😉

[@kwilliams2400]

@@edwinarobinson691 I have heard many times that Yellowstone is broken.

[@TheScotsman1977]

U​@@kwilliams2400???

[@1230yonewt]

@@edwinarobinson691 a super volcano is like Capt America's shield laying on the ground. Mt. Ranier is a closer to a Dixie cup (4 oz) and that's overly generous; it's more like a thimble.

[@Kevrz35]

​@@1230yonewttrue, but Yellowstone isn't likely to erupt soon. Rainier on the other hand may, and due to its proximity to population centers could pose a serious threat. Not just from the stratovolcano's eruption, but from the lahars/pyroclastic flows it will produce.

[@marysueeasteregg]

EDIT: the post below is incorrect. Tsunamis can appear in lakes as well as the ocean. An earthquake in the New Madrid seismic zone cannot cause a tsunami. Tsunamis, by definition, are catastrophic ocean waves. Flooding from major rivers cannot displace as much water as can occur in an ocean.

[@jakehansen3418]

There's the great lakes right there along with the Mississippi and Illinois River. Along with other huge lakes

[@AurousBrooks]

Tsunamis in lakes can be generated by fault displacement beneath or around lake systems, Has happened before and I assure you it will happen again.

[@marysueeasteregg]

@@AurousBrooks You are correct, I will post a correction.

[@EvesRevenge]

I lived in Memphis 1999-2003, and we had so many tornado warnings, but most ppl had no basements. It seemed as the Mississippi River had something to do with it. This is scary stuff.

[@ShalomUSA]

@@EvesRevenge The soil there is very sandy and shifts easily.

[@michaelboyd4783]

@@EvesRevenge For the most part, the bluffs of Memphis, along the Mississippi River, causes tornadic winds coming from Arkansas to bounce upward to higher altitudes, causing the winds to be disrupted and less tornadic in nature. Occasionally and rarely the "bluff effect" is not strong enough and a tornado will form, touching down somewhere in Shelby County. I have lived in Shelby County for 57 years and I can only think of perhaps 3 tornadoes touching down and causing damage, minimal in nature compared to entire neighborhoods being wiped out in other areas of the country. Take care. :)

[@michaelboyd4783]

Well, I stand majorly corrected. There have been many, but like I said, in my 57 years of life I can only think of 3 that I personally had knowledge of. Others in my county, I am sure, most likely know of more. As you know by having lived here yourself, Shelby County is spread out. Keeping thoroughly knowledgeable about what people are experiencing on the other side of the county can be difficult at times. Have a Blessed Day. :)

[@jus10lewissr]

Basements aren't very common in that area because of how high the water table is. Shalom is right about the soil being sandy, too.

[@9119brian]

It also has something to do with how humid the area is. The humidity causes mold to form in basements. In Arkansas everything is built on slab.

[@carlsmithii536]

No.. New Madrid is in process now

[@johnboy5235]

@@carlsmithii536 watch Dutchsinse he is PHENOMENAL

[@Kristi-j3g]

@@carlsmithii536 it's always in process 🌍

[@grunt9131]

Cotton soybeans and dont forget corn and rice....i love that river cause i grew up on it just like huck and finn. Except i had 3 brother's and 3 sisters. Im surprised we all survived.😅 so many stories.

[@SusanPatrick-kj7co]

The characters were Tom Sawyer & Huckleberry Finn. Ergo, Buck Finn is one character

[@DJ-1999.]

I live near Ft Campbell on the TN side and for the last few years we've been feeling light tremors like explosives rumbling underground. You can feel it in the floor, but nothing damaging. We at first thought it was mortar rounds from post, but my son in law says it didn't feel like that. He's recently retired from Ft Campbell after 22 yrs.

[@Supportingtruth8258]

I'm certainly not an expert on earthquakes, but I do know a few things about the soil in the epicenter of the New Madrid fault line - I live in the epicenter about 20 miles from the town of New Madrid. The soil has almost no rock, and has a high amount of sand in it. Soft materials like sand and dirt absorb a lot more impact than hard rock. I believe that that is the reason why this area seldom ever has tremors or significant earthquakes.

[@skywatcher7272]

Thanks 😊👍

[@BlackCeII]

@@Supportingtruth8258 no, that just means your entire area is going to be subject to liquefaction when the big one hits

[@hardyhodge2538]

@@Supportingtruth8258yes but sand and soil will cause liquefaction in other words quicksand it's happened world wide through out time

[@BonnieBlair-zm4uu]

Incorrect. Rock is sturdier than sand, just like the Bible verse when ✝️Jesus renames Simon to Peter AKA the rock upon which the church is built. Geology 100 taught me about liquefaction when ⏳⌛turns to quicksand. That is why the Nimitz freeway collapsed in 1989: the fwy was built on top of sand.✨🕊️🕯️✨

[@elaineisabelle427]

Why are you showing pics that do not depict the actual locations and true historical pics???

[@rcschmidt668]

The same reason they called it “Mad-rid” instead of “Ma-Drid “ … bad AI.

[@thorenshammer]

I-40 crosses the Menphis area also. the bridges of I-40, which is a major east-west corridor for shipping, would be cut. There are other roughs, to be sure, but goods and services to the area would be slowed down as a result of an earthquake in this zone. if the earthquake also affects St. Louis, then I-70 would also be affected.

[@KathyPowell-e4i]

Not long ago , they found a massive Crack in the Memphis bridge..

[@tonyv8925]

Michigan. May 2, 2015, Galesburg, 4.2M. July 1, 2015, Union City, 3.3M. Substantial damage in Galesburg. My home suffered cracks in the walls of my basement. I was about 12 miles from the epicenter.

[@UseByDate-Expired]

I heard about that on the news... I lived there, on Division, just off Main.. and you could count the people that "claim" they felt it on one hand.

[@RobertPatillo-r8q]

He didn’t mention why it will be felt so far away. While the area around it is sandy. It is surrounded by solid rock. And the vibrations will travel much farther because of that. Also didn’t mention that the bridges crossing it will become unstable, unusable, or destroyed. Then there’s the buried gas lines that would be ruptured, and potentially blowing up. Power and phone lines gone. In less than a minute the whole region would be thrown back to preindustrial times.

[@InsaneCuriosity]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@michellerhodes5477]

Northeast Ohio has a very small 2.6 earthquake this morning then this video pops up on my recommended. 😳

[@tso8174]

This area has earth quakes all the time. People just don't notice it because they are 3.0 or less. They are basically just aftershocks of the previous big one, until it knocks loose another big one. It'll come someday. I imagine that all the faults in north America could wiggle together because or it too.

[@michellerhodes5477]

@@tso8174 😭 Are you kidding? New irrational fear unlocked.

[@godsbeautifulflatearth]

🙏

[@SmokinMirrors22]

I'm in Akron

[@leeannhoffman3556]

Troy here

[@steve-r-collier]

i believe it will happen around october 2024 and 6 months after just like in 1811..silmilar planetary alignment and another bright comet in the sky like back then

[@safrew1]

Interesting

[@calledtocovenant3479]

@@steve-r-collier can you please elaborate on the planetary alignment in October and also what is the name of the comet?

[@karanowlin9506]

I keep seeing things about the ring of fire from all these earthquakes, and tonight is the lunar eclipse

[@meg01968]

@@steve-r-collier I follow astrology, I’d love to know the alignments also.

[@THORSLANDS]

Nope

[@krobbins8395]

Concerned about increasing waste water fracking well installation in areas and their ability to upset old fault lines. Massive operation development starting in Canada which could destabilize the northern U.S.

[@garnerjoyce606]

Canada also at risk, we all need to pay attention. Canada has snow/ice risk and mountainous areas

[@garnerjoyce606]

Glacial

[@nancydemoss2945]

I've known since I was a little girl that Illinois, where my grandparents lived and my mom's home state, is in danger.

[@neva.2764]

You're not the only one.

[@jamesstrickland517]

Because of the large depth of the alluvial sand through out the area the seisimic waves are actually transmitted over much longer distances unlike the ones in California which travel through rock, when the 1811 quake happened items fell from shelves in New York City, and objects on shelves in Boston vibrated. If this occurred with a 7.5 quake when the area was lightly populated and say a 8.0-8.5 occurred today what would be the result? And remember for every 0.1 increase the quake is 10 times stronger than the previous number.

[@jctatro67]

Good point that the Richter scale isn't linear. I felt a few 6+ earthquakes growing up in California. I can't imagine what a 7.9 would do to the cities and infrastructure in an area not built to withstand any significant earthquake. The Richter scale is logarithmic, but only goes up 10x per 1 full point. A 7.0 is 10x as strong as a 6.0.

[@jamesstrickland517]

@@jctatro67 A 7.0 quake is 100x stronger than a 6.0, it is 10x stronger for every 0.1 in magnitude. That is why a 6.8 like the '64 quake in Alaska did so much damage, the same with the Northridge Quake in the L.A. area.

[@tracenixon5487]

8.0 earthquake in NM zone will destroy cities and towns up to and east of Louisville KY

[@kendramcgrath420]

Great vid. Thx and keep them coming. You guys should do one one the WASATCH FAULT LINE RUNNING THROUGH UTAH ( SALT LAKE CITY)

[@InsaneCuriosity]

Thanks for watching!

[@budwhite9591]

Wow. 1906 was a lot more advanced than I had thought

[@catman1050]

yeah, they had cube vans back then.

[@Songshare]

Well, we need change, we really do. Corruption is being exposed everywhere and it can’t be hidden. The unveiling of Christ in front of all our eyes is an amazing thing. ❤🕊️

[@Cartoontickling]

A few years ago the NEW MAP of the US had it split in the middle... Mother Earth is getting very restless

[@courtlandsmith5955]

Of course. "The Mighty One" it's the vital role where goods are shipped soon to be unnavigationable all the up to the Gr8 Lakes down to The Gulf of Mexico.Think about it ocean front property right in, "Middle America; The door's gonna hit us right where the good Lord is about to hit us.." LOL just joking. Just remember people there is a Book that has warned us long ago. Wow... the greatness of the mighty one: not the river but the Only One: God please have mercy on us for we are only your creation.....

[@facethesky1066]

Your picture showed a hole through mexico. Why? It makes no sense your thumbnail. Please explain.

[@marybaker5837]

I can’t understand why not use actual videos of the MississippiRiver instead of videos of other countries. Also why use videos from foreign earthquakes.

[@Shannon-ij1pm]

While the New Madrid fault is a real thing, it is not a extremely dangerous thing. In the 1811 quake's a few were magnitude 7.7, but most were well below 6.0. As a person who has gone through two 6.8 quakes, there is nothing to be afraid of below 7. But to try to scare people with tsumani's in the middle of a continent? Crap. This is mere clip bait.

[@Mercury0369]

Boy that was scary ! I could see a lot of people and animals dieing if your information is correct. God help us !

[@tigger6186]

Just follow Dutchsince, he figured out how they happen and does a decent job warning people before they hit.

[@BlackCeII]

No he didn't and doesn't. His predictions are wildly inaccurate and he just pulls stuff out of his ass.

[@SeeSomething_SaySomething]

Love Dutchsinse. And yes, he’s been really good at giving accurate warnings. Last couple days are proof.

[@BlackCeII]

@@SeeSomething_SaySomething are you kidding me? He gives these types of warnings every couple of days for places all over the world in the west coast and 350 days a year, nothing happens. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Geologist and volcanologists are in Universal agreement that he's pulling shit out of his ass.

[@kariblackwood5811]

I was a Navy brat and I remember being involved in earthquake drills in Virginia when I was in elementary school in the 70’s. Are these drills conducted now and anywhere else? Especially in this area?

[@happydays1336]

I grew up in Maryland (born in 1953) and we used to have drills where we got under desks so we'd survive a nuclear bomb. Even as a young child I thought that stupid because a desk won't keep a person safe in that scenario. The schools finally stopped doing the drills because it was too scary for kids. I don't remember any sort of earthquake drills.

[@michaelgrimes1131]

I lived in a small town to the Northwest of Nashville Tennessee. I personally experienced although in a small way a 6.0 or a little bigger earthquake that was said at the time near New Madrid, Missouri. A bottle of mouthwash on the bathroom sink was quivering and I heard creaking in the house structure. Also, a bell in a church was said to have rung over in Springfield, Tennessee North of Nashville. I believe it was sometime back in the 1980's.

[@patriciaaturner289]

Why is Jeff City shown in the bootheel? It’s along the Mizzou River , roughly even with St Lou.

[@oldman975]

Here’s a hint:GET TO THE POINT!!!! I could only put up with half of this video as it has nothing to do with the actual early 19th century earthquakes or the future potential for earthquakes.

[@creeper8647]

Thunderous applause. This video is more heavily padded than Dolly Parton.

[@pauladcarter64]

Here's a hint: GO AWAY and stop complaining! If you can't make the world a ɓetter place, at least stop trying to draw others into negativity and misery with you.

[@kskip4242]

​​@@pauladcarter64here's a hint eat schitt

[@cindygreenwood1122]

Exactly! I nearly quit after 6 or 7 min. of drivel. Thankfully, I made it to the 8 min mark where real stuff actually starts being siad.

[@Abioticwinter]

My heart would break for all of those stuck with California.

[@user-dn9vd9xg9p]

We never had earthquakes in decades, never, until Denbury started pumping something under our ground looking for oil in suburb neighborhoods. Less than One year after, we had small earthquakes im the same area. Not sure why and maybe a coincidence?

[@TheRealCheckmate]

6:29 LiqueFACtion is *not* "liquification".

[@momcatx2]

There are so many pictures from the 1906 quake and fire, and even more from the 89 Loma Prieta quake. It's completely ridiculous that you would only use images from other counties.

[@karenmandeville7116]

there's a hell of a lot of chemical plants/tanks along the Mississippi River across from St. Louis both up and downstream. i've always worried what it would mean for the New Madrid to experience a major quake.

[@archangelrevelations9532]

This crack is exactly what I foresee occurring.

[@ryangreen3332]

Don't forget the water/sinking 😮‍💨

[@troyleekimble7557]

Liar

[@ryangreen3332]

@@troyleekimble7557 Why are you even here then?

[@archangelrevelations9532]

@@troyleekimble7557 Scoffer

[@ronalddaub9740]

The army corps of engineers has a predictive map where the Mississippi River is 20 mi wide from the Great lakes to the Gulf of Mexico

[@nuvostef]

It’s nice to hear you pronounce “New Madrid” properly. Thanks. 🤙🏼

[@ann-mariemeyers9978]

I'm always pleased when someone pronounces Cairo, I'll. correctly.

[@cindygreenwood1122]

I assume your tongue is in your cheek.

[@shirleyrogers343]

Thanks!

[@InsaneCuriosity]

Thanks a lot for your support Shirley !

[@saintbologna3181]

go back to a normal narrator, this ai aint it

[@spuds6423]

A I works cheap !!😁😁

[@thomasfreitag3532]

I was amazed to see in the video how much Missouri, Illinois and Kentucky resembled Japan! Red, pagoda-like roofs, the layout of farms…. You would’ve thought growing up in the area I would have noticed this before!

[@victoriakidd-cromis1124]

Back in the early 90s, when I was driving an hour each way to attend college, some minister/preacher predicted that a huge earthquake would hit the New Madrid fault. Mom & I stocked my car with blankets, metal coffee cans filled halfway with sand & candles in them, matches, granola bars and choclate bars, a new firstaid kit, a battery-powered radio, a flashlight, extra batteries, extra clothes, etc....... This was before cell phones. Nothing happened, which disgraced the minister. Personally, I think the biggest danger comes from the volcano in Yellowstone. If it blows there won't be much left west of the Mississippi and it could be nothing left between the Rockies and the Appalachins.

[@Sheila2024-x8w]

Yes! His name I think was Ivan Browning. We live in St Louis so we stocked up on canned food that eventually went bad.

[@deborahvretis3195]

I grew up in Rock Island IL. I remember the 1968 rumble. our house shook slightly and only lasted a few seconds. Then, on the nightly news, we found out why. It was a small earthquake. It didn't scare me, but it did intrigue me.

[@beckylynn209]

I saw a futuristic map, and there was no California, Oregon and Washington. Where the Mississippi river is, was a huge waterway, from the gulf up to the Great Lakes.. 🤔

[@dragonslayer8337]

I believe you..!! You are Not the only one who no longer see the West Coast. We just don’t know when this will happen..!! 😢

[@SundropQueen60]

I have had frequent dreams and visions about the New Madrid Fault having a major earthquake. I live in Nashville, TN so we are not that far away from New Madrid, MO.

[@calledtocovenant3479]

I've had 1. It was enough. I saw the new waterway. It runs all the way from the gulf to the Great lakes. That's not all. I was shown a second waterway out west. Totally split the country into 3 sections.

[@venator-fb7yy]

Isn't Memphis essentially built on sand? 😳 If it is then that ain't good...

[@ronalddaub9740]

Memphis will suffer

[@MrPAULONEAL]

@@ronalddaub9740 That isn't necessarily a bad thing...

[@skeeterinnewjersey5256]

That's why I hope it doesn't move eventally south to my home state of Florida. What is essentially a big chunk of limestone full of holes won't do well.

[@UseByDate-Expired]

Memphis is built on a bluff...

[@lydiakarlsen4003]

Being born in Alaska on a small island, these occurrences ,are just a part of growing up here...Tsunami washed boats upon the beach in front of our house, played on them for quite a while...now I live in Washington State, where I witnessed Mt.St. Helens blow..!!! Many earthquake s in Alaska..1964 destroyed

[@lydiakarlsen4003]

Oops..😅😅..earthquake).Anchorage, Alaska.....

[@cbdale74]

God will protect those who have faith and pure love in their heart. He has given us the wisdom to help fight off most things mother earth could throw at us. Have faith.

[@DarlyneGensel]

@cbdale74 You are being very naive... are you part of the MAGA following? We do have scarry times ahead. Listen to the scientists! It's not an uneducated fool like DJT...he is totally ignorant to what is right in front of him!!! He is the one who is guilty of bringing our planet to this point... 'Wake up and Smell the Flowers!'

[@happydays1336]

Yes, that's true, but it's also Biblical that He "..sends rain on the just and the unjust alike..." Mathew 5:45. In other words, both good people and evil people will be affected by whatever it is that mother earth can throw at us. The belief that righteous people will always be shielded from calamity isn't Biblical. It's how we respond to tragedy that shows our faith. Do we help all people survive and thrive or just those who believe in Christ? If it's not "all people," a person isn't a good Christian.

[@seisies-mama]

how do you have a tsunami in the MIDDLE of the US?

[@ryangreen3332]

The river splits open... And a super hurricane hits the gulf.

[@CortexNewsService]

And the river did actually split open. Look up the history of Reelfoot Lake in Tennessee

[@ZilrenNana]

A tsunami occurs when the whole of the Great lakes comes down the Mississippi River, as it did in my dream

[@mominminnesota6648]

i also was shown , ​@ZilrenNana , a disaster coming. as I understood it, a huge quake will cause Lake Michigan to leave its bed and wash away everything on its way to the Gulf; following that, Lake Superior will drain into the new chasm till it is lower by about 20 feet (& that's a LOT of water).

[@neva.2764]

​@@ZilrenNanaWhat else did you see?

[@galeogle]

Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Destruction is coming from deep within the earth.

[@marsha04053]

@@galeogle the bible is almost full fill

[@charlesmiller8107]

@@marsha04053 The Buy-bull is almost full of 💩🤣🤣

[@TheScotsman1977]

@@charlesmiller8107 Bible prophesy is 100% accurate and precise.

[@jasongarcia2140]

Sheesh

[@GraemePayne1967Marine]

When I was in college (1970-1974) I studied geology for a couple of years. Of course, the New Madrid fault complex was one of many studied. As was the better-known San Andreas. I have experienced seismic events in several states over the years: Maryland, South Carolina, Alaska, Colorado, and (of course) California.

[@TexasSheepdawg21]

If you live in Memphis, leave before it happens. Because the city will be given over to chaos because the city government is corrupted and unprepared. They are asleep at the wheel. And once the seismic event takes place, there will be no bridge left standing to get you out of harms way. The further you live outside of the 240 loop, the safer you’ll be. But even with that being said, Memphis and Shelby County are already a very dangerous place to live. I lived there from 1986-2001. I will NEVER regret moving to rural Texas from that stinking arm pit.

[@ravengale]

Hearing you say “mad-drid” instead of “muhdrid” is driving me nuts. I lived in south west Kentucky so I heard about it and they always said New Muhdrid.

[@breeinatree4811]

Ikr I'm from Paducah we say muhdrid too.

[@jamiebraswell5520]

Glad you brought that up. Madrid may be spelled the same, but can have two different pronunciations just like many other words. "Muh-drid" is how you pronounce the city in Spain. "Mad-drid" is how the American city and/or fault line is pronounced. People think they are so smart when they pronounce the faultline the same as the city in Spain!😅

[@macrotech6507]

Agree 100%. Just like when they say nucular instead of nuclear. Drives me stark raving crazy. There is a guy on you tube who is a radiation scientist who mispronounces it. It's his profession and he is an effing scientist and mispronounces one of the most important words in his profession. Would you trust an ophthalmologist telling you that you have oclear cancer as opposed to ocular cancer?

[@breeinatree4811]

@@jamiebraswell5520 I learned it the other way around. If you bothered to look at a map, you'd see that Paducah KY, where I live, is practically on the fault line. We call it new muh-drid.

[@bendy6626]

It's MAD-rid in the town itself. Therefore, that is the correct way to say it.

[@joshcook5942]

It's not the biggest earthquake in the USA cascadia is 9.2 and if it goes it will take the whole west coast from northern California to Vancouver bc. It has a interval of 300-500 years and it's way overdue. It will be the biggest even higher than Japan. It's a 9+ more like 9.2-9.4

[@bendy6626]

Cascadia quakes occur "like clockwork" on average every 248 years. The last one was 324 years ago in 1700. It is overdue. Tremor swarms going on there right now, thousands in the past week, over 9000 in the past month up and down the west coast. *Something* is going to happen soon.

[@ReLair88]

@@bendy6626 Yes. There have been several in the LA area in the 4-5 range in the past few months. Much more activity in that coastal area than I recall. I had a dream about the Landers quake (7.3) the night before it happened. Not my only dream that came true (but I left CA so no dreams about CA since then).

[@MCM898]

look people, this continued fear porn is what holds people back from living in the moment. None of us are promised tomorrow. Shut off the dark noise that is going on, and focus on your life in the now!

[@mominminnesota6648]

@MCM898 one doesn't have to cultivate the emotion of fear, BUT it's wise to cultivate the logical lifestyle of being prepared. You can prep without fear. prepping does not prove one is fearful.

[@crismcdonough2804]

Just because you find it scary doesn't mean we all do.

[@silverrain48]

They are called "sand blows" not sand volcanoes! I subscribed but too many errors to continue.

[@marjoriedanley6131]

I live about 25 miles from New Madrid Missouri, and live 16 miles from The Mighty Mississippi River. Yes, I’ve read about the major earthquake in the early 1800’s. As a matter of fact, there is a very big lake in Western Tennessee that formed as a result of that earthquake. (The small town there is named either Tipton or Tiptonville) There is a small museum there that has Indian artifacts and also a pretty detailed newspaper article about the Earthquake. It’s been some years ago I was there but my memory can’t recall more. I do remember being very impressed with all they had in such a small museum. One more thing. There is a restaurant almost right across the street called, Boyettes, that serves the best catfish and ‘trimmings I’ve ever eaten. (And I’ve eaten a lot of fried catfish in my life). Boyettes has been there for a little over 100 years.

[@bobjacobson858]

You're describing Reelfoot Lake.

[@marjoriedanley6131]

@@bobjacobson858 You’re correct. I inadvertently left that detail out. Lol Have you been there and/or to the museum I mentioned? My memory is not as good as in my younger years. (Yep, it stinks) I wish I could remember more details as to what different artifacts are in said museum. Thank you for putting the name of the lake. A lot of fishermen like to fish there.

[@bobjacobson858]

@@marjoriedanley6131 No, I haven't been to the museum, but I've explored much of the area around New Madrid, including "Kentucky Bend" in which the land between the two sides of the river is no wider than the river itself.

[@frankmarquis8095]

7/29/ 2024 3:47 p.m. Over the last 20 + years I've done quite a bit of research into the 1811, 1812 through the USGS if I could have been as high as a 9.5 is shook bell towers in Boston it was felt all the way on the Gulf of Mexico and all the way across the country in every direction the ground is different then California's it's like solid granite when it moves it moves a lot and it moves everything if we have an 8.0 quake it will kill thousands! It has been said the next big one would split the US from lake Michigan all the way to the Gulf of Mexico the Mississippi River would be 50 miles wide in Louisiana would be gone is well as a lot of land mass on both sides of the river so I think you underestimate this next big quake even where I live the map shows that I'll be having beachfront property and I live 50 mi from the Gulf of Mexico as a crow flies! But as usual it's all best guess, only time will tell! May the Lord be with you all if you live in the quake zone

[@pattyrooney1323]

Thank you+ shared.

[@Dako108]

Given the importance of this subject the sloppiness of the videography makes me doubt the accuracy of reporting. Showing aerial videos of China to represent the Missouri countryside is just laziness and the same goes for misrepresenting San Francisco with other cities from around the world. You guys can do better than this

[@ryant6806]

@insanecuriosity How much damage would Nashville Tennessee get if a magnitude 6 earthquake originated in the New Madrid Fault? What about a 7.7?

[@InsaneCuriosity]

If a magnitude 6 earthquake hit the New Madrid Fault, Nashville could experience moderate damage, like broken windows and some structural issues. A stronger 7.7 quake would cause much more damage, possibly collapsing buildings and leading to serious injuries.

[@bryanbrennan2827]

I ve been trying to tell people in the area near the Madrid fault..to MOVE!.

[@garydavis1557]

Tsunami in Missouri, Tennessee, and Arkansas? I want to know where rhe ocean front property is in these states.

[@baneverything5580]

There are huge cracks in the east/central Louisiana hills from these earthquakes which can be over 5 to 6 magnitude here they say.

[@staceyhall7159]

SOUTHERN ILLINOIS!!! The New Madrid Seismic Zone (NMSZ) is a 150-mile-long fault zone that includes parts of southern Illinois, as well as northeast Arkansas, southeast Missouri, and western Tennessee

[@tammydriver5759]

Don't forget about the Wabash Fault Zone!

[@budwhite9591]

3:35. Wow 14millon is equal to 11 billion in 115 years. Great economic times!!!

[@danielhanawalt4998]

A little over 20 years ago we experienced a tremor from a small scale earthquake about 20 miles away. Woke us up during the night. Another tremor I experienced over 40 years ago shook the apartment where I lived around Chattanooga Tn. Only lasted a second or two but was enough to get ones attention. The earths crust is full of cracks. It's not as stable as it seems but stable enough to allow us time to get complacent and not worry too much about earthquakes. A big mistake?

[@kennystrawnmusic]

New Madrid and the San Andreas Fault are both bad, but neither is as dangerous as Cascadia - THAT is the most dangerous seismic zone of them all, at least in terms of sheer magnitude. Now, in terms of area impacted, sure, because intraplate earthquakes are felt over much larger areas, of course the NMSZ ranks high up there, as does the San Andreas due to proximity to major population centers. Cascadia, however, is both an earthquake source and a transpacific tsunami source capable of funneling the tsunami up the Columbia River and Puget Sound - so the potential of an event rivaling the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami in terms of impact is more likely in the Pacific Northwest than in any other region of the country.

[@CortexNewsService]

Oh yeah.at their strongest, neither San Andreas or New Madrid would even get close to the potential Cascadia quake.

[@robjenstreet]

It’s not about which is the strongest, it’s about the possibility.

[@danm9006]

@@kennystrawnmusic I keep telling my friends in Vancouver, WA to have emergency supplies (or to move east), but they just shrug their shoulders...

[@burtonwilliams5355]

Winter of 1811/1812 when New Madrid shaked and baked, land shifted, the Mississippi River ran backwards, forming Reelfoot Lake. It was said that church bells rang in Boston, MA. I live between Nashville and Knoxville.

[@alanawebb8445]

If you don't believe I guess you will when it happens. Go to your Library and look it up in the books. It did happen and as History has shown it will again.

[@wandairwin3260]

Last year we had an earthquake of 3.5. I realize that’s not much ch, but that was in Canton, Mississippi!

[@astropilotred]

A man who had an NDE when he was a boy, was shown future events, he saw the Kennedy’s & King assassinations, 9/11 , mass shootings, he saw a huge event where thousands perished in this area.

[@TheJohnny928]

Been feeling tremors for a few days now in December 2024 in Appleton,Wi. Not normal.

[@dogsaregreat3870]

You got it all wrong The New Madrid Fault fault take a eastern turn across Southern Illinois and Southern Indiana and out to New York The fault which runs up Southeastern Illinois and Southwestern Indiana is a different fault zone This is why church bells rang in New York during the first ever New Madrid fault rupture.

[@ann-mariemeyers9978]

In 1980, there was a strong earthquake centered in Florence, Ky. We felt it in Kalamazoo, Mi.

[@charliekeene2003]

Finally! A video where the name is said correctly. It sucks you didn't show a single picture of the town, but at least you said the name right.

[@ronalddaub9740]

I remember that one a three-point something and I remember our stove was rocking in southern extreme Southern Illinois

[@ExestentialCrisis]

Check your homeowners insurance folks. Earthquake damage is typically not covered unless you specifically ask for it.

[@pammiller9450]

They've jacked up the prices for it.. Used to be 50$ now 10× more or higher...

[@m.o.m.basiclifeskills2986]

It used to be called " the Midwest Rift" stretches all the way to Cable, Wisconsin.

[@JWellsUp]

This is in the Bible. Revelation 16:18. The great city or America splits into 3 parts. The San Andreas and New Madrid faults will do this.

[@Lisa-wi5qn]

This reminded me of the Aleph and the Tav ( the beginning and the end) and the 3 eclipses from 2017 to 2024, also the fact that the US was ❌d out

[@UseByDate-Expired]

Not one word you said is in the Bible, as America is not mentioned.. Lying in the name of God should really get you into heaven, huh.

[@blueskye23]

Charleston, SC was leveled by an earthquake in the 1800’s also. I don’t know if the fault lines here have a name, but sometimes there are little tremors, even off the coast.

[@mickeyturner5677]

Earthquakes happen when the stress on materials exceed the capacity of that material to withstand the stress. I know that sounds like common sense. However, it has important implications. We know from the history of those three earthquakes, what was the level of stress that caused each of those earthquakes. I will bet a beer that this level of stress was essentially the same in all three earthquakes. The next logical step is to determine the amount of stress that is currently experienced within the soil. Fortunately, we now have the technology to accurately determine that level of stress. Moreover, we have compiled a database for the past sixty years documenting that stress level. The last step is determine when the break point will be reached again. As far as the steps to prepare the area for that quakes, we all know that will not happen until after the next big one hits. However, I feel confident we can reasonably determine it will hit (unfortunately).

[@atanacioluna292]

If it is slip fault and records are good you nay be right, but the point of concern is that we don't know.