Great episodes boyz, the entertainment and educational value both +EV
@BrandonZatopek-om3uk11 ай бұрын
There have been a lot of really good episodes, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one. The back and forth is incredible.
@Sean-zo6hu11 ай бұрын
neck and neck with the AD episode for #1
@Noah1076711 ай бұрын
Great episode boys, one of the best ones to date. Amongst rec or "semi-professional" bettors I think there is a mix of both camps described by Rob and Johnny around 20:00 to 23:00, and I agree the younger generations skews closer to the big bomb banger/hype/tail picks. On a side note, your boy Simon Hunter said he'll often haggle with different books to get prices and lines not available to the public - how accurate is this?
@pascal302 ай бұрын
its great that MODO is finally back in the SHL recently after many years at the second tier level :) top team
@WingfanSports5 ай бұрын
I top down because I am self aware enough to know I can't cap better than the books with a fullt time job and 2 kids. There may be a time I can originate but people underestimate how much skill you can bring to top down. I have seen a very good ROI so far I think because I use my own tool and don't buy an odds screen. My data is unique and I am constantly enhancing my process and tracking my data. Everyone has their own path and mine right now is to try and be the best top down player out there.
@daddypoker2311 ай бұрын
This was probably your best episode
@DJS811 ай бұрын
Outstanding episode!!
@TheeDegenBoosts11 ай бұрын
such a good episode
@russellpattison377610 ай бұрын
Great pod, credit to the Shipper for being so upfront and giving a great insight to the inner workings of a big corporate bookmaker
@ecolt011 ай бұрын
Trenhaile, Berryhorse, Shipper.
@jimdarden46868 ай бұрын
one of the best sports betting pods ever keep them coming
@ecolt011 ай бұрын
Incredible episode
@stuartdoyle404110 ай бұрын
The conversation at 1.07 is kinda interesting. Have worked at books and have seen this approach where they use sharp players to move lines off that are betting very small. If a sharp guy spots this they absolutely should be sending in a new account and using their $8-10 bets to move line in their favour for the full limit account to get better EV off!
@747Approach9 ай бұрын
Exactly. Makes no sense at all. Bet the "wrong side for 50" and have another account coming in after. These guys are obviously brilliant. Something doesn't add up
@1112-g1x5 сағат бұрын
@@747Approach wuldnt the books aggregate the sharp players tho if thers one guy trying to manipulate price but others sharps arnt i wuld say books wont give too much of a shit about wht hes doin
@oldterry947611 ай бұрын
unfortunately i don't have to worry about being banned. you should set up a sportsbetting school modeled on the poker schools
@markreynolds622010 ай бұрын
ok....? and how would this help
@Mvpjugg5 ай бұрын
This was a good one 🔥
@notkevinfinnerty49594 ай бұрын
@ 15:21 shipper said the optimal way to run a rec book is to limit people/call cust. Service em', because they get the data for free, watching a circa line move for instance, but the director from Circa sports book was on with G stack george and said they would move lines just to watch the board light up and mess with the rec books. So it's not the optimal way.
@CirclesOffHQ4 ай бұрын
Great catch
@alexl134010 ай бұрын
Great Episode!
@michaelp55119 ай бұрын
Great podcast. Love seeing Pizzola on Mayos show.
@CirclesOffHQ9 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@huckleberryfinn879529 күн бұрын
When I calculate my edge with probability and odds payout. Do I use implied prob. or actual prob. by de-vigging??
@CirclesOffHQ23 күн бұрын
You use your probability and subtract the sportsbook odds converted to a percentage
@oviefan10011 ай бұрын
Books in Ontario are required by the AGCO to spend a certain % of their marketing $$s on responsible gaming. They're forced to make that PR push.
@supercoolbenwag6 ай бұрын
Is he still working for these books? Because it seemed like he was doing some incredible mental gymnastics around the topic of responsible gaming and limiting winners.
@747Approach9 ай бұрын
New viewer. Great content. Rob, you're a winning bettor, Pinnacle will take all your action, why the need to scour for soft books and deal with all the limiting/banning/time waste?
@CirclesOffHQ9 ай бұрын
Rob is a big proponent of being price sensitive and looking for the best possible price. Pinnacle is a great book with low margins but they will not have the best price in market 100% of the time.
@AG-ok9hk11 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT episode/guest! in the future, looking for either diggs and/or favre444, and also a ufc centered episode.
@ecolt011 ай бұрын
need a UFC episode badly
@Raiseren10 ай бұрын
Most surprising part of this episode is that rob is in his mid thirties
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
LOL!!!
@oldterry947611 ай бұрын
information is only valuable if you have more than someone else
@cbranchen17410 ай бұрын
I wish you guys talked more about limiting. Really only hit the tip of the iceberg. Also why did he say he doesn’t know how much he can talk about this? Did he sign an NDA or something??
@cbranchen17410 ай бұрын
Should have made the 80% of the show on the limiting aspect…please bring on more rec book people on as much as you can
@markreynolds622010 ай бұрын
but wht more is ther to say....like shippy said if yor accounts up at the end of 6mnths ....yor out no matter how u try the spoof thm
@LEMONADE450110 ай бұрын
What ever happened to the studio with the black foam?
@CirclesOffHQ9 ай бұрын
It is a thing of the past. Gotta evolve!
@jeremyscorpio41709 ай бұрын
I can already beat CLV in the nfl by 2-3 pts or more the MAJORITY of the time. .....now im working on doing it in the nba.
@LemonyBrisket3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about the older generations but I dont think these tiktok tablet kids donating to NPC tiktok Streams are gunna have the intellectual capability to originate so the future will be top down for a bit .........Until there's too much top down and the books start using biometrics( facial Recogniton) software which will stop all syndicates and partnerships due to the actual person with name on account having to physically be in the room to log in. (A company in the uk has already tried to promote biometrics to prevent arbitrage.) My prediction tiktok kids turn 18 and there's an influx in top down and then biometrics comes in and originating is the only option. Ooooohhhh!! top down soooo good!! Ride it like a top down boy!! Ride it like a top down boy!!
@anpeck4642 ай бұрын
48:20
@markreynolds622010 ай бұрын
end of the day if thers no rec bks with ev lines to pik off then thers no easy money....who is beating the sharp books or exchanges ?