Inside Flat Earth: An Exposè by an Ex-Flat Earther

[@roughmoose]

Btw this is live video captured so deleting this just shows your not wanting to answer perfectly reasonable question Dan.

[@SciManDan]

What exactly am I deleting? I’m not deleting anything. Your comment is right here for all to see. List all your questions below and I’ll answer them.

[@roughmoose]

@@SciManDan Dan Ranty was not some normal none profit flat earth guy. He was profiting high from pushing this narrative for years to all the mentally ill people he says follow that belief. if Ranty come on your channel to be truly open and truthful about being a pusher of the flat earth to profit from it, then that would of been a unique perspective and insight into the dark side about flat earth. Instead he painted himself as a Victim which we all know he was not. He was deep in the middle and profiting highly and in the end he started begging for people to fund him to continue. Obviously that failed and flat earth has less attention now thanks to KZbin algorithms. so conveniently now one photo out of thousands of proofs shown to him converted him back to the globe. You truly believe that Dan. Come on I will ask you the Question again Dan. Since it was deleted. If Oakley or jeranism or Bob or any of the other profit making flat earth guys decided to switch sides tomorrow and become a ex flat earth channel would you promote them and send more subs and money there way or would you expose what they did and how they sucked money out of the mentally ill ?

[@SciManDan]

I’m not going to answer any questions if you keep insisting I’ve deleted them. Apologise and I’ll answer

[@roughmoose]

@@SciManDan if you haven’t deleted them Dan then where did they go ? If you have a spam filter it’s deleting posts that’s not swearing or rude or by a bot. If that’s the case I’m sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion.

[@johnbiggscr]

@@roughmoose I see 7 previous posts of yours, and 3 of them ask that same question. Need me to screenshot them and send them to you?

[@Thanos1908]

Props to Randy for having the guts to use critical thinking and stop that flat Earth mumbo jumbo.

[@trybunt]

Personally, I don't think it's about guts; he was convinced that the earth is flat, then he eventually was convinced otherwise. That's hard to do - genuinely investigate our beliefs, see past our own biases, but I don't think people who are convinced of conspiracy theories are any different than anyone else, they just live a life that results in them becoming convinced of something for bad reasons. There's probably something that we both believe for bad reasons. Maybe it's some weird superstition we hold onto, a wild story we think happened, or some pseudo-science that we fell for. Chances are, we've got a heap of poorly reasoned conclusions in our heads, because we are not very rational, and it's really hard to see our own biases. The best way I know of avoiding as many as possible, is to put concious effort into trying to falsify our beliefs. If a belief can't be falsified, then it's unlikely we are being completely reasonable about it.. Unfortunately, most of us don't like to acknowledge that. It feels icky. So we try and find justifications for the belief, rather then admit we may be unreasonable

[@grahvis]

@@trybunt . The difference was Nathan Oakley pushing his angle of attack nonsense, chose to put book on the floor of a room and moving it through a doorway into another room where it was obvious the floor was at a different angle. Ranty going to a running track, put two small objects on one end of the 100 metre track, his camera on the ground at the other and both objects being in full view.

[@asmallguy6124]

@@blacktoothfox677 you do realize we all experience differently, right? if you can't even realize something so simple, why the fuck are you even on the internet?

[@srp01983]

@@blacktoothfox677 What a nasty comment. And what a good job that it will be viewed as such by everyone with a brain and a bit of common sense.

[@trybunt]

@@blacktoothfox677 yeah, he should strive to be more like you and spend his time on the internet leaving insulting comments about people to feel good about himself rather than trying to address the problem of misinformation to feel good about himself.

[@TheActualPES]

This fills me with joy. Sincerely, mad props to Ranty for not only following the evidence honestly, but also for being generally such a decent fellow about it throughout - a trait that seems severely lacking on the ‘celebrity’ flerf side.

[@borisjulinuv2776]

hats off ranty your a great man admiting you were wrong and its great to see your perspective since we really don't see this alot once a flat earther isn't anymore most of the time he just vanish from youtube

[@ZimmZutinZayai]

Like all cults, the Flat Earth community vehemently opposes intellectual integrity and humility.

[@skateboardingjesus4006]

Definitely deserves props for hitting on all the pertinent points and summarising them in a clear and insightful way. He reconfirms the very obvious fact that flat Earth belief is just a symptom of deep underlying problems. The quality of presentation has earned him a sub.

[@MattyEngland]

Yep, please send money to his PayPal ASAP 🙄🤣👍

[@RegisTerSlow]

O-m-g I tots agree bro bones! He’s so strong and brave for coming back to the light side. He must be commended non stop for all eternity to show these flerfers that they’re disgusting and just wrong about everything, but at the same time, letting them know there’s a quick and easy door back to the good guys side. Treat them as horrible as possible when they disagree with us, but gently rub their balls and graze by their shaft when they finally do what we want them to right??? We’re so fucking awesome I love this community

[@RealTanku]

Big props to Ranty. Glad to see him as a guest, sharing this perspective. Ranty, if you're reading this, remember - it takes a great man to admit they don't know or don't understand something. It takes a small one to declare instead that everyone else is wrong.

[@Killakutz69]

I agree 👍

[@AuditingTheAbsurd]

Thank you :)

[@casperthefriendlycookingapple]

@@AuditingTheAbsurd Ranty, how do you feel, looking back, at all the comments made about you when you were a 'flat earther'?

[@asmallguy6124]

@@casperthefriendlycookingapple it must have been mentally draining, but it's the internet. but then, even if someone's not so factual with their claims, they should realize that whatever mentally drains them especially online doesn't change shit lol, worse it might strengthen their certainty for those not so factual claims. just saying lol

[@MattyEngland]

@@AuditingTheAbsurd Flat earth, chemtrails and 5G are obviously nonsense to anyone who understands science, but the laws of physics prove that 9/11 WAS an inside job. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what narrative your handlers are going to get you to push on it. 👍

[@BeeWhistler]

I love how "Thanks, Bob" has become the shortest way of saying that a flat earther has just proven the globe.

[@yvonnehintz114]

I've found myself saying this quite often lately.

[@jonasmellberg3559]

But that's the BIG question... how did they explain it... faulty equipent.... what!?

[@eMBO_Gaming]

​@@jonasmellberg3559 they usually simply say that he was a shill from the whole beggining and the experiment and the entire movie was staged lol If something literally cannot be debunked just say that it was fake and didn't happen at all, 100% legit method certified by true woke flerfers

[@ToxicTeemoOCE]

@@jonasmellberg3559 It was picking up the Aether rotating above us. It's the stars in the firmament rotating at 15 degrees per hour, that the gyroscope was detecting.

[@odamarkado]

​@@ToxicTeemoOCE You've gotta at some time in your life, stop and realize how delusional your thoughts are.

[@AuditingTheAbsurd]

Thank you Dan for the opportunity to showcase my channel

[@jonasaman9104]

Chin Chin! This was the video I was hoping for! And as I and others have told you wothy of a TED Talk not for your sake (only) but to reatch out to the masses and the sience world. (a mix of Conspiracy Theorist. A Descent In To Madness, In 2010 The KZbin Algorithm Helped Promote Conspiracies and this video.) (only thing that do not fit in will you pointing out the false flerfs (that innocent untill proven gilty crap). THANK YOU!❤🥂

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

People like you literally make my heart swell a bit , knowing you're another man who's eyes are opened to the freaking awesomeness of the science of earth & the universe.. Love seeing a man like you doing so awesome 👍😎🌏☮️♾️

[@aldrnarienby4756]

Happy to have you back in reality~

[@eileendover3938]

Love your work Ranty. Your honesty does you credit.

[@papadopp3870]

So glad someone pointed out the fact that there are content producers who are simply supping at the teat of gullibility. Oh, yeah… thanks for the words about mental health. Being a flat earthier doesn’t mean you’re mentally ill- but the cognitive dissonance generated by the gymnastics your mind must do to accept the cognitive dissonance will eventually lead one to need a lot of self-reprogramming.

[@zubich]

I know it was said before, but this really takes a lot of courage to do, so thanks Ranty for being the big man and owning up to your past. This video was a joy to watch and I'm sure your channel will do fine if you continue like this.

[@Zachorazor1]

It's recently been deemed courageous to admit when one is wrong. It's not. It's called simply having integrity, modesty and honesty. Apparently that's outrageously rare now.

[@richrichy3015]

@@Zachorazor1 I guess it just depends on the person. If the person is scared of backlash from flat earthers, maybe it can seem courageous. Of course I don't know any person who understands reality that is scared of anything from flat earthers. Lol

[@Zachorazor1]

@@richrichy3015 Good points, both. 👍

[@827Drew]

@@richrichy3015 What backlash are you going to get from flat Earthers? Does it really matter? Honestly, who gives a fk? Lol. It'd be like if you lived in a village where everyone knew guns shoot bullets, and 2 people didn't. So you join the people who think guns don't shoot bullets. Then you see a gun shoot bullets, and YOU shoot bullets out of a gun. You're a hero if you join the people who think guns shoot bullets? No. You're a normal human being, lmfao. You're the most normal human being who's ever lived. You couldn't be any more normal if you tried. This goes ALL the way back to APES. It's THAT ANCIENT.

[@richrichy3015]

@@827Drew I didn't say that it was courageous. And I also state that I don't know anyone worried about anything from flat earthers.

[@mattburgess5697]

A million respect for having the humility to accept that you were wrong, and own it so publicly.

[@multipl3]

They will just think hes a deep state plant now 😂😂

[@MrKOenigma]

We should have that in politics... It happens to rarely

[@sergiuszwinogrodzki6569]

Still shame, but less. He is like a murderer that pleaded guilty and got fewer years in prison.

[@nenmaster5218]

Humility is Key.

[@nenmaster5218]

@@blacktoothfox677 Are you sure youre not projecting, evidend by how no one else sees that Prideful Arrogance emanating from Ranty? Just you?

[@yugodream380]

Honestly, I find this to actually be a really heartwarming story, it makes me regain some hope in humanity. Thank you Ranty!

[@EmmaThorneVideos]

This is so wonderful. I hope Ranty's content reaches the people that need it, he could really do a lot of good! I know conspiracy communities tend to go hard shunning ex-members for this reason. Keep at it mate!

[@blowc1612]

It’s a very cult like hive community. They get people so dependent on the community and the people who spew the disinformation hits the reward sensation of a person.

[@asmallguy6124]

@@blowc1612 i'd disagree partially about it being a cult-like hive community, but i'd agree they're just too dependent.

[@blowc1612]

@@asmallguy6124 it is 100% cult like hive community.. their behavior is exactly how colt members behave, and their leaders act like cult leaders. You go into a community of them, and they’ll parrot their scripts and attack you with the same almost verbatim words.

[@thecloneguyz]

We should make Ranty blow up Nothing would upset the other flat-earthers more than watching him make lots of money from round earth

[@T-I-M-E.42]

@@thecloneguyz True, any sort of evidence based honesty angers any type of cultist.

[@ivanpetrov5255]

I love the fact he left FE, because he saw something, that contradicted his belief, and instead of dismissing it, he tried to learn more. This is one of those rare cases, where "Do your own research" was not "Look up stuff you like".

[@TrickOrRetreat]

Spot on 🤗

[@hydraman007]

Ivan, would you be able to do the same? Would you be able to look at evidence showing no curvature drop at 10 miles, 20 miles, and even 200 miles without dismissing it? Or, this Selenilion perhaps kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4bOm5Vql8edpsU - would you be able to look at this and not dismiss it?

[@CreakyBlinder]

This is awesimne Ranty, looking forward to chatting with you on "There We Are Then"

[@Sheesha87]

That will be a fantastic episode!

[@casperthefriendlycookingapple]

That'll be good!

[@casperthefriendlycookingapple]

Tidy, in fact!

[@AuditingTheAbsurd]

I'm looking forward to it too Creaky!

[@littlebudd]

I'm glad you addressed this, I'm an ex conspiracy theorist and it's alot deeper than most people think. I'm glad you addressed the mental health aspect and normal people can fall victim to it and get better.

[@MattyEngland]

🤣🤣🤣🙄🙄🙄

[@kerryn6714]

@JTLYK IXOYE Nice video, still doesn't prove there's a flat earth though, you silly boy!

[@travisvaughan8373]

@JTLYK IXOYE Ooh wow! A high altitude video that is supposed to prove something even though it has a fish eye lens which makes the horizon look both concave and convex depending on where it is in the frame. Nobody here has EVER seen one of those! You must be a good "researcher". 😂😂

[@kerryn6714]

@JTLYK IXOYE Using caps lock doesn't make you correct.

[@travisvaughan8373]

@JTLYK IXOYE The Evil NASA-MASONIC-CABAL?? Yes its obviously him who is brainwashed and whose judgment is compromised. Do you nutters even hear yourselves? 😂😂 Every flat earth "proof" ever concocted has been destroyed multiple times. Flat earth is dead, but please don't stop being you buddy! It's super entertaining.

[@FrikInCasualMode]

Admitting mistake requires bravery and honesty. Kudos to Mr. Ranty for having both. Hopefully more people will follow his example and leave the toxic bog of flat Earthism.

[@ShizukuSeiji]

I've been having an exchange with Decimal Z or Dr Zack as his channel is called. He is one really messed up self-hating narcissist. Its tragic but I can't help him. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqKpf2CVrdysfJo These people get very defensive, bitter and abusive when you question their motives.

[@toxyl3915]

Couldn't say it any better 👍

[@robi6317]

uh no. no kudos to a dipshit who bought into flat earth FOR 5 YEARS and then realized it was stupid. screw him

[@matthewfors114]

@@robi6317 i was about to type something very similar to this. i think he should not admit he was a flat earther, erase all traces of it and do community service for 5 years to karma out his shame lol

[@thatguy2201]

@@robi6317 Fck mental illness eh, throw the sufferer out with the bath water. How about show some empathy and don't be an ankle.

[@captainskim1124]

Mad respect for Ranty. Even when he was a flat earther, he always seemed like a decent guy. Loved his podcast with Cats, and it's great to see him accepting he was wrong, and giving perspective on this

[@niklastorshagen6365]

agreed. Just one question: have you listen to their podcast much? I listened to the first episode and it was only about ghosts and such, so I stopped listened after the first ep. Are all ep like that or are their other topics?

[@captainskim1124]

@@niklastorshagen6365 mostly ghosts, but there are other things like a few cryptid stuff, and I think there is a dimension shift one

[@steveaustin4600]

fuc no respect he was money scaming on you tube

[@dfr6663]

@@captainskim1124 yeah he seemed like a good guy... If you ignore his years of straight up lying in his videos... 🙄

[@Falconing89]

@@niklastorshagen6365 They say its crazy to think it's flat when you don't find curve, feel motion and have level waters..... but then they go ghost hunting and talk about aliens and multiple dimensions.... why is one topic so feared by the masses ..... Eric Dubay

[@icelandman5432]

It takes a great deal of courage to stand in front of everyone and admit you were wrong. Tremendous respect for your courage. A pleasure to watch and listen. Thank you!

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

No. It takes a great deal of courage to stand in front of everyone and tell them THEY are wrong.

[@KeithMilner]

@@theultimatereductionist7592 nah, that's easy. Just saying "nuh-uh" and taking a.contrary view for the sake of it is not hard, especially when motivated to do so by social media which can generate both attention and revenue for "being controversial". Building credible evidence that is accepted by rational, intelligent human beings and getting them to understand it and agree with it is hard. Even harder, is getting irrational humans who are motivated by dishonesty to accept and understand that evidence.

[@notamoron2246]

@@theultimatereductionist7592 I can't agree with that. What that takes is blind faith in a ridiculous and stupid idea.

[@chadwellak]

Thanks for this video. You've really opened my eyes to the _why_ of flat earthers. It's so easy, and entertaining, to debunk the nonsense but getting a glimpse into the root of the problem was so worthwhile. Thank you, Ranty.

[@mattd6085]

It's always down to the money. It's the same in religion, in government conspiracy theories, in all fringe beliefs. The top dogs are raking in the money spouting shit they KNOW isn't true, but the morons eat it up and empty their pockets.

[@raezzordaze8021]

What are the possibilities that Ranty is a double flat-earth agent??? Just kidding, Ranty, glad to have you on our side! My immediate thought if someone identifies as a flat-earther when I meet them is, "Oh boy, here we go!"

[@itsianwood]

lol

[@davejones2166]

Or maybe a Tripple Agent ?

[@calamorta]

I've always wondered that but on the opposite side. Some dude should start creating FE content out of his ass and grow in the community, then a few years later expose everything. I've done something similar in Facebook groups. You can come up with any theory, picture or agument to protect FE and they fall for it lol they don't check if your photoshopped picture is real or not and so on. l If someone did this on a major scale, exposing how they don't care about finding the truth would be huge. You can't debate with them using science, but you could expose their movement to those who actually believe FE is about questioning everything... But that's just a guess. Posting condescending videos just makes them stronger. It helps them with their fantasy of being the protagonists. You gotta expose their philosophy, their way of seeing things; not the FE model.

[@CainMaster7]

Big ups to Ranty. It's so wholesome to see how the debunking community accepted him with open arms, and how him and Dan have become friends. Hope theres a day soon when more people can shake off their conspiracy brainwashing and get their lives back just like him.

[@holdorf333]

Ranty, my god, I never expected this. It takes massive balls to own up to mistakes, especially one we were once so vocal about. A big thumbs up, and looking forward to seeing more of your content

[@SockyNoob]

Especially for believing something as foolish as flat earth.

[@matthewfors114]

@@SockyNoob spot on

[@themaverickfiles2020]

@@SockyNoob so you really believe we're on a spinning ball rotating at 1000 mph and moving through space at 67,000 mph. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? It's not insane or an issue of mental health to not trust what people are telling you, it's insane to gullibly go along with the lies without first looking into it for yourself and keeping an open mind. I'll ask you this question. Have you personally been to space? Well neither has any of these technocrats propagating and touting the same lies repeatedly. You've been conditioned to believe that any controversial event that has "conspiracy theories" are just spewed from basement dwellers that have nothing better to do with their time. It's foolish to blindly trust the government and Powers That Be that run the entire global economic paradigm. Break free of the mind control or don't, the choice is yours...

[@quique7764]

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong & do so on a public platform. Big Respect bro.

[@baldrickscunningplan6154]

and a whole wad of cash.

[@EternaLivesMatter]

There is such freedom in humility. God bless him!

[@crewie94]

This is a beautiful display of taking responsibility for your views and making a positive change by utilising those previous views. I'll never forget the original Ranty videos and it's so wonderful to see him reflect and review his evidence and it's pitfalls. This is great. A wholesome ass watch indeed. Thanks for inviting Ranty onto the channel Mr. Dan. 🤜🖤

[@mattihelin5101]

Ranty is the best. No wonder he's an ex flat earther, he's too smart and articulated to be a flattie for life.

[@trybunt]

I don't know.. I don't think there's any good reason to think that people with wild beliefs are any less intelligent. Most of the world have some pretty wild beliefs, at least, from my perspective, and I doubt I'm any more intelligent than the average human. I think its just circumstance, to be honest. I imagine that I'd hold your beliefs if I lived your exact life, and vice versa

[@Findalfen]

@def creator so what? "burn them all, them witches!!!" Every science discovery starts from the belief of something, and then an investigation to prove, disprove or refine the original thought. If anything, Ranty's approach for the whole thing has been very much following the scientific method. And when the conclusion was "nope it's wrong the Earth is not flat", he came back to reality, even if it took a bit of time. I applaud him for that.

[@mattihelin5101]

@def creator he just made observations, got results that for the time being disproved globe earth, continued to have open mind and lastly was convinced that the earth is in fact a globe. Nothing wrong with that. As ranty said, true flat earthers don't seek evidence or do any research. They have decided that the earth is flat and there's next to nothing that will change their beliefs.

[@asmallguy6124]

@def creator what??? so what? why the heck do people like you not realize that everyone experiences differently?

[@D-Vinko]

@def creator Bad POV. You're utterly stupid; because whether you accept it or not, you believe things today that are obviously wrong tomorrow. Moron. Also, because I'm pretty sure you may ACTUALLY be stupid, that was me being sardonic.

[@Stockfish1511]

Big respect that this guy could accept he was wrong. Glad to see he is doing good

[@Nikki-2981]

Mad respect for Ranty. It's probably been said a thousand times already, but it takes a lot to admit you were wrong and correct your views. Good luck with the new channel and I wish you the best.

[@hagersims212]

I live in Texas and have known a few flat earthers. I've observed them try to convince others and sometimes come close or at least spark their interest. I can always shut this down by asking them their opinions on other crazy beliefs in front of their new audiences. This shows people how troubled they really are.

[@TrickOrRetreat]

Nice jedi trick 😋 reveal thy true self 🤟

[@hydraman007]

Don't know if you notice, but you speak like a cult member who protects his peers from the "evil dangerous heretics".

[@nimrodery]

@@hydraman007 You're anonymous here and yet you still fear sharing your beliefs.

[@hydraman007]

@@nimrodery says something, doesn't it..

[@nimrodery]

@@hydraman007 Yeah, it says even you think you can't justify them.

[@Holywell88]

Really good when someone has the guts to admit that they were wrong

[@Sheesha87]

Yay Ranty! You've come so far this past year, well done! ☺️

[@davidcleary9510]

Without a doubt, this is the best Flat Earth Friday video yet. Sincere congratulations to Ranty for not only escaping, but understanding and being empathetic to those left behind.

[@robertruark8797]

You did an excellent job there. My first response if somebody told me they were a flat earther would be you got to be kidding me.

[@theprogrammer1]

Of all the Flat Earth Fridays so far, I feel this one by Ranty was a fascinating and accurate description of Flat Esthers and gives a good insight into this phenomenon.

[@AuditingTheAbsurd]

Thank you!

[@johnmorris7815]

Well done mate, I have a feeling you might just have helped lots of people on their journey back to reality.

[@hydraman007]

Could you explain why the shadow appears on top of the moon in this eclipse - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4bOm5Vql8edpsU Please help!

[@Hitchpster]

Respect for this man. People changing their minds should not be mocked, but praised. A rare commodity.

[@mattstanford9673]

"Thanks, Bob" will *never* get old. Great video, Ranty. It's never easy to admit you were suckered in by the cult.

[@blackhat4206]

Another great video, Dan. Thanks, and respect, to Ranty for doing what he’s doing here. Publicly acknowledging that one was openly and obviously mistaken about any of their core beliefs isn’t an easy thing to do for most people. The rabbit hole goes so deep that climbing back out often becomes a long, hard struggle.

[@BenHorton1066]

Thanks Ranty this has been really insightful - much respect for your warnings over CV19 that must have been received badly by other flat earthers

[@Beacon80]

It was rather interesting, both with Ranty and SeekTruthSpeekTruth, to see how much anger left them the moment they stepped away from flat earth.

[@joemorris1282]

Thoroughly enjoyed that, thanks Ranty and thanks Dan! Ranty it's so great to see you back on the Globe side, and massive respect to you for finding your way and reflecting on it like this. I find the psychology of conspiracy interesting and actually quite sad in a way. It's the ones that peddle it for cash, the likes of Eric Dubay, Globebusters, Nathan Oakley, that I find despicable for perpetuating this.

[@ary2000]

It's really hard and painful to admit one is wrong sometimes. Respect to you, Ranty :)

[@markchip1]

The most difficult aspects of "dealing with" or "trying to save" flat-earthers and other conspiracy nut jobs are - A, not responding with derision or accusations after they come at you with abuse, name-calling or threats, B, maintaining a degree of patience when trying to explain fairly simple and basic facts when they just change the subject every minute!!

[@fredriksvard2603]

Facts and logic has nothing to do with it, it's psychology. You need to dismantle the need to feel special and superior and create a sense that it's ok to be just as lost as everyone else.

[@jeffersonott4357]

@@fredriksvard2603 very astute.

[@baskoller5506]

@@fredriksvard2603 Nice. That aspect is often overlooked.

[@MaryAnnNytowl]

One of the _best_ people to do this, and do it consistently, is Dr. Bob. His channels Bob the Science Guy and ResearchFlatMoon (he's also got a couple more) are chock full of videos where he does exactly that, even on their own channels. He's as good for that as Dapper Dinosaur (a small channel, but very good) and Gutsick Gibbon are for the Young Earth creationist cult.

[@jeffersonott4357]

@@MaryAnnNytowl yes, gutsick gibbon is great.

[@PBeringer]

This video made me feel really happy, and by no means in any condescending or vindictive way, but because Ranty demonstrates something so special (and redeeming) about humanity and our ability to change. I'm not exactly sure, maybe someone else can explain it more eloquently, but I'm just enjoying feeling happy and optimistic for once ... Thank you, Ranty and Dan. ❤

[@generichuman2044]

It's always important to hear from people who have changed their views. This was a very insightful video. A big thank you to Ranty and Dan

[@robjchristopher]

Much respect to Ranty for having the courage not only to talk openly about Flerf stuff, but for talking about mental ill health too. Good man and I wish you well. Oh, and you earned a sub too!

[@dfr6663]

Willful ignorance isn't a mental health issue.. You subbed to someone who's spent years lying on videos? I guess his plan worked, flat earth income is dropping so just switch to the other side... Enjoy rantys content I'm sure it'll be great ..

[@xitup1]

Wow, what an absolute hero. Instead of getting all defensive and resorting to name calling and just being an absolute idiot, Ranty actually took the evidence and applied some critical thinking to come to the conclusion that any normal person would. Welcome to enlightened living Ranty. It is truly a wondrous place with so much to admire and so much to learn!

[@muskyoxes]

He did, but it took a distressingly long time, years. He rejected a whole lot of videos dishonestly before finally engaging one honestly. I don't know how society can continue if it takes 3 years to bring back the best conspiracists and 300 years to bring back the worst.

[@tony6795]

@@muskyoxes I celebrate Ranty, but yeah, it's distressing to think how almost impossible it is to flip conspiracy theorists. That mindset has always been around though, society will just have to slowly push through.

[@dfr6663]

"instead of getting all defensive and resorting to name calling and just being an absolute idiot".. ??!? So this is the only ranty video you've watched?... He spent years doing exactly that.. Years...

[@sourisvoleur4854]

Fabulous presentation. So glad you guested for Dan this week. All best wishes for your success!

[@bahice]

This really gives me encouragement to believe that there are still people who can be swayed back with logic and real science. It also shows me that Dan’s purpose is not just to argue and get views and likes, but to actually educate and change minds. Thanks, Dan. Don’t stop. I know you’re an atheist, but you’re doing God’s work all the same.

[@Locust13]

Somebody needs to tell this god fellow to get off his ass and start doing his own work.

[@michaelfox2433]

@@Locust13 That and people need to stop giving him the credit for peoples accomplishments,...nothing annoys me more than that idiotic tripe.

[@Random-ob7dc]

@@Locust13 I mean, when people say God's work they don't mean they do the work God is supposed to do lol. Anyway I know thats pretty much a joke. I dont even know why we say that, it just means work that God appreciates or respects, something he would be proud of.

[@bahice]

@@Kiriali I was giving credit to Dan. I'm pretty sure he exists. Or do you know something we don't?

[@STaRBG4405]

@@bahice Check out Viced Rhino on youtube. He pretty much shows how stupid the bible as a whole looks and sounds. Just like flat earthers you will fight it but every big change starts with small steps

[@jonathanbartlett1098]

Thank you for this insight, Ranty. Also, thank you SciMan Dan, for having Ranty on your channel. I feel it is critical that we as a community keep an open door to those who are willing to have honest discussions about science. I appreciate Ranty's perspective on the flerf community and it was very interesting to listen to. Mad respect to both of you for this gentlemanly conduct

[@Zxavioure]

Thank you Dan for having Ranty to host the show. Faith in humanity is restored. ❤️

[@enormousderek]

Congratulations Ranty, I have boundless respect for those with the strength to admit their mistakes and move on. I think your topics discussed here will be useful resources for the future.

[@justjen6054]

Ranty, you're amazing! Thank you so much for not just falling into the shadows after changing your mind. Something is fundamentally wrong with our society, allowing for an environment of breeding so much mistrust. That mistrust means that solutions will not come from the top down from our educators and leaders. Changes will be made by our peers in society. The debunkers offer sound explanations that will hopefully help persuade those on the fence, but only people like you can bridge the gap of communication between the two sides. Amazing video. Thanks Dan for having Ranty as a guest host!

[@The_DarthWonka]

Welcome Ranty, so happy to see people looking at all the relevant information and assessing it with an open, unbiased mind. You have my +1 Sub. Thank you too Dan for all you do for all of us.

[@themortyestrick8044]

Props for your open-mindedness, Ranty! And thank you for your insights into how and why conspiracy theories thrive, a topic more relevant now than ever. I think it's always important to try and see things from other people's perspectives, instead of a "we against them" attitude. We shouldn't be reluctant to talk to people, just because we don't agree with them. And if we happen not to agree with someone, that doesn't mean they're a paid agent or a tool;) PS: my first question, if someone told me they're a flat earther would simply be: "For what reasons?"

[@AngmarCosplay]

Wow it’s like listening to someone who broke from an addiction. Bravo sir, thank you for your words

[@christopheblanchi4777]

Way to go Ranty! Your perspectives on the flat earth community are fascinating. Thanks for giving us an insider's view into that world.

[@hydraman007]

The man you thanked lied to you. You are having your beliefs shaped by fraudsters, and you thank them for it lol! Reading this you will probably attack me, instead of the ones lying to you.

[@sccnyy23]

Well done Ranty. It takes a strong person to admit they were wrong. I appreciate you taking us through your honest and courageous journey and giving us the insight into the true flat earth community. I wish you the best.

[@foppishdilletaunt9911]

Right on, Mr Ranty. I have great respect for anyone with the courage, intellectual honesty, sense of humility & humour & the desire to learn. Our benighted species needs more people like that.

[@IssMeinHirn]

This was the most informative and powerful guest appearance the channel has ever had. Excellent work Ranty!

[@kimyuri6937]

I love the fact that Ranty used to be one of the Flerfers who Dan and Cats make fun and critique. And now, he's one of Dan's special guest and a regular podcaster with Cats. I'm so proud of you Ranty. All the best in your channel and your future round Earth videos.

[@markshaw59]

Randy, I watched the interview and vids with Catz, it's great to see how doing your own research and asking questions to the correct people can show the error of ways. Loving the content

[@MrMccarthycdxx]

I want to give major props to Ranty, to come out and give his perspective on flat earth and the community takes guts. Its great to see you back on this side of the reality fence Ranty, good on you man. Also great job to both Dan and Ranty, this is the kind of thing that will hopefully bring and end to flat earth.

[@ThomasTrue]

Thanks Ranty. I'm a former correspondent for the Fortean Times and I have in the past given talks on "paranormal" phenomena. As such I too have often encountered individuals who will buy into each and every conspiracy and/or unproven and unprovable claims presented to them. I will confirm that many of these people have severe mental health issues. Indeed, I happen to know of two whom I happen to know have been diagnosed with severe problems so severe that they have in the past been sectioned, they should be on medication, but they refuse to take their medication, because that's obviously also part of the "great conspiracy". I've observed that such people are drawn to each other, and I can fully understand why. As I have my own mental health issues, I am painfully aware of just how much stigma that carries, and just how isolated you can become. Therefore, like is drawn to like, and they create their own little community in which they share every batshit crazy claim they've been fed. And I therefore applaud you for attempting to expose those who would prey upon such individuals for their own financial gain. Because at the end of the day, they are lining their pockets at the expense of vulnerable people, without a moments care and consideration for the enormous amount of damage they are doing.

[@Globeisahoax]

I agree with you. So many people believe in a globe hoax and become a prey to a globe propaganda machine.

[@Evl_1]

I cant believe that I started following when Dan had around 5000 followers. Cant not believe how much he has blown up. I am happy he is putting the death nail in the coffin of Flat Earth. Keep up the Great Work Dan Dan the Science Man.

[@ross-carlson]

Wasn't in that early, but under 50k for me. LOVE that his channel is doing so well for him.

[@derzauberer8605]

So you do believe it?

[@Evl_1]

@@derzauberer8605 I’m in shock He made me believe lol

[@derzauberer8605]

@@Evl_1 Sry cheap shot joke because u wrote "Cant not believe how much he has blown up"

[@Evl_1]

@@derzauberer8605 Its all good. I like jokes. I have t look at my reflection everyday. I think age is a joke. I look and see a 52 year old man but a 12 year old trapped inside. Dont think farts jokes will never not be funny lol

[@angusmctwangstick4079]

I discovered that a friend was a flat earther a few years ago. I thought he was joking at first. I have also had a stranger come up to me in the street and try to convince me that the earth is flat. That guy also stared at the sun because "that's how you charge your body" and "the people in control of everything keep this a secret because we would all become too powerful".

[@tosspot1305]

dear god

[@valivali8104]

😨😰

[@schm147]

Imagine having an ego so big that you think you can convince some random person on the street of your ridiculous worldview in one 5-minute conversation.

[@geoffreydunsmore1561]

If that was true I'd be a super sayian by now

[@philippabrealey1310]

This is so interesting Ranty. I watched the Blackpool Tower videos last year and, as a climate activist, I am super interested in what it is that makes people reject actual scientific fact. I shall now find your channel and tune in. Your insight is gold!

[@Kut-Pile]

I’ve wondered the same thing myself. Especially the people who say to listen to the science of Covid, or the science of climate. Yet, in the same breath dismiss biology and say there are more than two sexes, or that men can be women etc.

[@TheRastacabbage]

Climate activist talks about actual scientific fact. Maybe you should learn some

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

What’s sad is I know this story all too well.. back in 2010/2011 I fell down the David Icke rabbit hole because he mixed in a lot of spiritual elements I already found intriguing, and being living in a world where all our leaders ignore climate change and are corrupted by money, that was all the foundation I needed to be open minded towards crazier conspiracies. Thankfully I’m now somewhere in the middle. Not fully believing and trusting our leaders and corporations, but also firmly believing in science and that there’s a fine line between what is possible and what is true. And that a lot of these conspiracies fall far beyond that line.

[@andystokes8702]

My reaction if anybody were to tell me they were a flat earther - I would pity them. I feel sorry for somebody who would dismiss all of the evidence showing that we live on a globe and instead believe something for which there is no evidence. I feel sorry for them that they believe they have a better grasp of astrophysics than all of the great scientists throughout the last couple of millenia.

[@RazoE]

Great job Ranty! Hopefully more folks figure it out as well 👍🏼

[@jackdshellback3819]

Good on you Ranty. It takes a mature and decent person to admit they were wrong. Keep up the good work mate.

[@ALaughingMan]

I actually remember that video. How you have come full circle is bloody amazing. Welcome back!

[@mikedrop4421]

So much respect for you Ranty. All flerfs say that if they were to be presented irrefutable evidence they would switch sides to the globe model. You are pretty much the only one in history who actually kept your word on that. Glad to have you sharing the globe with us

[@wizardsuth]

Some of them claim that, but when you show them evidence they find excuses to reject it.

[@Payne2view]

Best wishes for continued improvement in your general mental health. Bravo to Dan for letting you have your say on his channel. Let that be a message that debunkers are trying to help, not harm the lives of people lost in a disorienting forest of conspiracies.

[@teej008]

Thank you Ranty for your insight. It’s sad that so many people feel the need for community in these groups and can’t find it in their day to day lives. I can see that it would be very attractive to a person who feels like they’re outside normal society. I’ll not look at them in the same derogatory light again. Thank you

[@psycomutt]

The problem is honesty with the government/media. When I can clearly point to an obvious lie it way easier to think "they're liars". Some conspiracies turned out to be true, so it's easier to convince that all of them are true.

[@bayly1977]

I was on a date and found out half way through that she was a flat earther. Naturally the date went south fast. I since found out that she made it up because she wasn’t keen. Well played 👏👏👏

[@davidlawrence5148]

I suppose in unlikely circumstances that technique could backfire....

[@Co0O]

This one was truly really great. Ranty is so brilliantly honest and deserves all the credit in the world for it. I have endless respect for people like him, who are able to search for truth and facts with so little bias and selfishness as he does. It also says a lot about how debunkers like Dan and Catz treat their FE «subjects». What a wonderful bunch of people they all are ❤️

[@papadopp3870]

This!

[@dentheman1797]

Thanks Ranty, for your views and honesty! If someone I knew would say he or she is a flat earther, I would be thinking what their method to reason is, how they would state what is true or not. Not even just the shape of the earth.

[@ESC_907]

Yay, one that has been saved! Definitely subscribing to his channel for that insight.

[@rlinwa723]

This was a very helpful presentation. I've suspected that there was some financial aspect to this belief for at least some of those folks and you confirmed that. But I also appreciate your reminder that there are some people who have emotional and/or mental health issues in this community as well.

[@patrickmartin2886]

Quality content. An interesting perspective, and a reminder that we need understanding, not antagonism.

[@tryingmybest9819]

Conspiracies will always be with us because it makes people feel special The 4k per month doesn't hurt either.

[@Nocturnehell]

Ranty, I’m glad you were open minded enough to see the error of ways instead of doubling down. I worry for my parents who gobble up conspiracies left and right. They are religious and I feel it’s only a matter of time before I have to sit down and tell them the world is a sphere.

[@Globeisahoax]

what if they ask you for a sphere proof? Anyone can make claims and use pseudoscience to fuel it

[@dfr6663]

@@Globeisahoax that's easy, just ask a flerfer to explain a sunset... Job done.. 😀

[@Globeisahoax]

@@dfr6663 Are you saying you can't find a video explaining sunset?

[@dfr6663]

@@Globeisahoax On a flat earth? No... I didn't ask for a video, I said you wouldn't be able to explain it. And you can't.. 😀 Maybe just one simple question, why does the sun (and moon) disappear from the bottom up while appearing the same size it has all day? 😀

[@MK_90X]

Always good to see a person come back to reality and reasoning instead of keeping up with the ignorance. And Oakley, 15° Bob, the whole bunch... blood is on your hands.

[@AlmightyRandomFish]

Ranty is a top class gent. Despite the abuse he receives from flerfs, he still shows compassion and understanding for them. ❤

[@JulianKnight-IT]

Great to hear a more reasoned and personal perspective rather than simply poking fun at people. Understanding the difference between those in it for profit and those who are mislead and those who have other needs. More of this please.

[@xINVISIGOTHx]

In the Bob experiment, how far apart were the camera, 2 boards and the flashlight?

[@petergetty2034]

This is brilliant, absolutely brilliant. A fantastic insight, and BRAVO to Ranty. Much respect!

[@Bc232klm]

If someone I knew told me they were a flat earther, I'd assume they were joking or trolling and hope I wasn't wrong.

[@MsArtemis64]

Yeah, and I would check the calendar to see if it was April 1st~haha.

[@UlmDoesAnything]

People like ranty give me hope that not all is lost. Its not actually about the shape of the globe, but being able to have the balls to admit you were wrong

[@mjrdainbramage]

Thank you for this Ranty, and Dan! As a social species we are usually hit hard by loneliness, and isolation. Often harder than we think! This makes us vulnerable to adopting the views, and teachings of those who accept us, and include us into their "tribe". If the inclusion leads to personal growth, and further inclusion into society as a whole (being exposed to a wide range of information), that is fantastic. However if those who include us promote hatred, and suspicion towards others, we will adopt those traits so as to not lose the favor of our new "tribe". Attacks from outside the group will cement our beliefs, and drive us further into the rabbit hole, which is why sects are so good at holding on to their members. None of us are immune to this kind of manipulation, but luckily most of us are not exposed to people like this when we are at our most vulnerable. It is worth thinking about how many views/values we hold, good, or bad, simply because they are shared by our own "tribe". It's possible that the most effective way to get someone back from the rabbit hole is to offer them inclusion into a new caring community, but the KZbin comment section is probably not the best arena for that. 🙂 Thanks again Ranty, and Dan.

[@tinaquattrocchi75]

Love this

[@kippert1987]

Thank you for doing this! I think this starts to give a better insight into the mindset of someone who is completely consumed by conspiracies. I think it's very easy for people to feel superior to flat earthers and get some kind of validation from that which honestly just increases the barrier to a conspiracy theorist being able to actually bring themselves out of it. The comedic videos about the flat earth communities and "ripping" them apart, whilst funny, ultimately only serve to increase the divide because it reinforces the idea that a person consumed with conspiracies is not going to be accepted just on a person to person basis. Honestly, I feel genuine pity for conspiracy theorists in exactly the same way that I feel pity for a person indoctrinated into some other religion from when they were a child and helpless. We have to honestly think about how we correct that indoctrination, how do we help kids feel part of a rational community, how do we avoid the exclusion, bullying and childhood trauma that ultimately cause people to become so susceptible to this kind of stuff? I think as a scientific community we really and quite seriously need to consider this because until we do, and until we accept that mocking conspiracy susceptible people only serves to continue the memetic trend of conspiracy susceptible people, we are ultimately have some responsibility for the prevalence of these thought patterns in society, whether we like it or not. I guess to summarise my point above and try to give a different perspective, consider this following hypothesis/idea (not sure it's worded well enough to be considered a hypothesis): >> Susceptibility to conspiracy theories, flat earth and other fundamental religious ideologies is a symptom of a different root cause

[@AuditingTheAbsurd]

Indeed. My own journey from child to now, I have somewhat documented on my channel, and talk about some of the events that shaped my life the way it has. Your not wrong with what you say.

[@patchso]

@kevin timmins: Great comment.

[@tsopmocful1958]

Congratulations on openly rejecting a false belief, and confirming for us how flatearthing is much more of a psychological issue than just a pseudoscientific issue.

[@dragonhealer7588]

Underrated comment!

[@DeathBYDesign666]

I've been saying that since day one, in fairness it's not that hard to figure out. You just have to try looking at it from the perspective that we all believe in some form of superstition at some point in our lives and you take that to it's furthest possible conclusion. Having empathy and using their own logic against them often gets no response I've found, but that in itself could mean you have reached them on some level. It also separates the ones who are beyond hope from the casual weekend warriors, as the serious ones will always have a response but never a direct one. Ranty proves that it is possible to make a difference and bring some of them back to reality. It's all about planting that seed of doubt but you need to get into their head first. It won't work if all you do is ridicule and demean them. I also have done this but it's obvious when they are fully beyond any hope of rationality.

[@dfr6663]

Ranty states the obvious.. He's a genius.. 🙄

[@tsopmocful1958]

@@dfr6663 Yes, but like with ex-Mohammadens and ex-creationists, it's good to hear from those who have rationally emerged from delusional ideologies, because it gives us all some hope.

[@permiek]

Great to see the acknowledgement the role that mental health plays in the way some people get isolated from society, great job Ranty !

[@robertcampbell6349]

Great presentation! Best wishes with the new channel, Ranty.

[@NinjaVestos]

Well done for seeing you were wrong so glad to have you back

[@thinkinaboutpolitics]

Ranty is a gosh darn gem! The parallels between flat earth conspiracies and the Trump Vote Fraud conspiracy are striking. Both in how they operate intellectually and how they exploit their supporters. Great insights.

[@joebrinson5040]

Are you certain of that?

[@thinkinaboutpolitics]

@@joebrinson5040 I think so. Take GOP claims of voter fraud in AZ in 2020. 3 election audits found no fraud. A GOP-backed review failed to find fraud. Still there are GOP politicians pushing fraud lies for private benefit. Truth and facts don't matter, just keep spreading the lie. Believers will go along with it. Seems like it's right out of Mark Sargent's playbook.

[@joebrinson5040]

@@thinkinaboutpolitics taking your argument to be true then I would agree that it is equally applicable to the continued allegations and accusations that Trump conspired with the Russians on the 2016 elections and committed other serious crimes despite 5 years of intense investigation by his political enemies coming up with zilch.

[@thinkinaboutpolitics]

@@joebrinson5040 that's where you are wrong. That's like when you tell a flat earther they can't explain the seasons so they pivot and say "but gravity is really density." I think there's a lot of folks on the right making arguments that start with "but what about..." Same with flat earthers.

[@joebrinson5040]

@@thinkinaboutpolitics so I'm wrong, but you're not. I've heard it a 1000 times before from closed minded people. The case is proven without evidence if that suits your ideology.

[@Aaron-hh8nx]

The fact that some people actually believe that the Earth is flat is just.....🤦‍♂️

[@cxc2632]

I cant believe how dumb they are

[@KissMyFatAxe]

@@cxc2632 they're not necessarily dumb people. Just gullible and easily fooled.

[@kippert1987]

@@cxc2632 I think it's worth replacing dumb with mislead.

[@casperthefriendlycookingapple]

I think that Ranty has shown how easy it can be to be mislead. Especially by money hungry charlatans!

[@iank2615]

@@kippert1987 *misled

[@Therealbackslabbath]

This explanation is almost exactly what my answer to your initial question would have been. It’s not about belief in a flat earth, but a belief in the antithesis to “everything”.

Kudos to Ranty for those balls to face a 180° turn online and fix his mistake in publishing nonsense before. Greetings from Taiwan and keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@DrowSorcerer]

Kudos Ranty. this was a very interesting, humanizing and fun video to watch, you really went the extra mile to make the whole topic both easy to digest and deep to follow

[@MelanaC]

Wow huge congrats to Ranty! He has an amazing amount of courage to come on SciManDan’s channel and speak ‘his truth’ (I actually hate that phrase but whatever) For him to stand up and speak about how he was wrong or misinformed takes a huge leap. He even analyses his own old videos. His channel is definitely worth a look as his videos are funny and well researched Good on you Ranty. Welcome back