Inside Kim Kardashian's Prison Reform Visits: How They Came to Be (Exclusive)

Scott Budnick, CEO of 1Community and founder of the Anti-Recidivism Coalition (ARC), chats with ET's Kevin Frazier about working with Kim Kardashian on prison reform and making facility visits together. He opens up about how their work together began and shares details behind their recent visit with Lyle and Erik Menendez. Scott explains his connection to the brothers and their reaction to the Netflix limited series based on their lives, 'Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story.' Plus, Scott gives more insight into the visit, where Erik met the actor who portrays him on the series, Cooper Koch.

[@DaPrototype1985]

Whether it is for attention or not, she is bringing light to a real issue. If she wasn’t giving back, people would trash her & say she is selfish. & now that she is, it’s assumed she is fake. Just look at the end result & ask what are you doing

[@PinkSoldier2009]

Good intentions or not it's ALL for attention baby! Just like when she met Gypsy Rose to discuss "prison reform." Nothing came of it after the cameras were turned off. 🙄🙄

[@Shay-mc7iy]

@@DaPrototype1985 love this!!!

[@stacysmith7387]

Oh, please it’s for publicity to deter the attention away from her and P. Diddy. Remember money and power corrupts especially when you’ve made it by showing your ass. Remember the media is a tool for her. her empire was built on the media. In fact our entire economy has been built on the media and advertising.

[@stacysmith7387]

The court of public opinion can be such a disguise either way, so don’t be swayed by feeling only.

[@23Echeo]

Kim Kardashian is doing way more than the rest of us! We need to help also asap! Where can I start?? Someone send me info ℹ️

[@Saramada7979]

Thank you K, and all the stars who are helping to the Menendez brothers case May God bless you and protect you always Free the Menendez Brothers!

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Kim can't hear u besides the Menendez brothers is a publicity stunt

[@athenaa.3498]

kim is a supporter and friend of diddy who molested a lod of minors and artist singers etc

[@NicholleAutumn]

Let them out!!! The way society believes you should have acted in the 80s as a male to sexual abuse BY their own parents is insane. The is absurd!

[@nataliakrzemuski6425]

Many ppl are abusive and abused. But they never showed how much they cared about their parents. THEY never said 🎉😢 . God willingly they get away fascinated by their crazy dreams

[@Shay-mc7iy]

Free em Kim ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻 spread awareness and rage and get them out. If Gypsy rose can walk then so should they!! Free them boys so they can live out the rest of their lives in their own peaceful way how they want to for once. If they were women they’d be free.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Kim is a nobody plus she's not a lawyer

[@ifitdontapplydontyoucry]

Lol

[@sierraraven244]

Kim should not be allowed this job after the diddy case

[@Chanceatreovery]

The only difference is Gypsy didn’t pull the trigger they did .

[@Shay-mc7iy]

@@Chanceatreovery are you sure about that? Autopsy shows different.

[@falguni22222]

If there is something Kim is going to do right, it’s going to be freeing the Menendez Brothers ❤ More power to Kim and the brothers 💜

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

It's a publicity stunt

[@elizaleroux9173]

​@@TiffanyMorris-g2dsad but true.

[@jeanoblair1517]

⁠@@TiffanyMorris-g2dso she still helping ppl/human. What stunt you doing to help anyone?!!

[@kirsten1007]

Her dad was an attorney. She knows she won't be a reality star forever then the brand will die off too.

[@nessXOOXOX]

Yup, especially with her age and who knows if her kids will want to be in the spotlight as much as she was.

[@BT-ch9gf]

I don't think being a reality star forever is the goal. They're billionaires and don't need tv anymore. It simply pays for the kids clothing at this point.

[@pinchofsalt4566]

Nailed it

[@reallyjustheretowatch]

Really interesting too, because her dad, Robert Kardashian, was OJ Simpson's lawyer. He did his job so well, that OJ was found not guilty, the LA Justice System got immense hate, which many believe greatly affected the Menendez Brothers' conviction (Since after OJ's case, it was the Menendez Brothers' second trial). I wonder if the brothers knew that.

[@louvreloveru]

😆

[@magildeny]

they've done their time... let them out now... we need to be more flexible as more information comes out... enough is enough... MERCY!!!

[@Ilovecrandall]

Thank you Scott and Kim! Free the brothers!

[@9395gb]

Kim is incompetent

[@louvreloveru]

Kris SHOULD be afraid of prison because that’s exactly where she’s headed.

[@lulugoulart5014]

This is not about Kris! Get your s--t together and control your evilness.

[@fabiola1823]

I have alot of respect for what Kim Kardashian is doing, she is making a difference

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

No she's not it's a publicity stunt

[@fabiola1823]

@@TiffanyMorris-g2d I disagree, I think she and her family are smart & talented women

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

@@fabiola1823 Kim and her family is no good plus it's nothing talented about them u need your help

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

@@fabiola1823 Kim and her family isn't talented or successful

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

@@fabiola1823 Kim and her family is apart of Diddy circle

[@Amelia-xr7cp]

I dont care wat ppl say abt this woman......she inspires me in many ways 💜🇹🇹😍 ways ..

[@mariacaballero116]

Same here

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Nobody cares about Kim and her publicity stunt

[@lisawassberg8455]

❤️👍

[@melodramaticfool4952]

Imagine being in prison and seeing Kim K walk through the gate

[@benjaminlibertarianscorpio]

Her half sister's father was OJ Simpson

[@amy6289]

I really feel that Kim’s heart is in this. Maybe she is drawn to working for justice reform through the bond with her late father. Good luck Kim! You will make a difference.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Kim is not a lawyer plus she's using the Menendez brothers to covered up her involvement with Diddy

[@SHaqq-wv9hn]

​@@TiffanyMorris-g2dABSOLUTELY 1000% UNTRUE. 🙄😑

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

@@SHaqq-wv9hn it's the truth Kim is just like Diddy

[@LisaKlassen-j2p]

Welll I watched the series and the Menendez brothers testimonies, and the series is inaccurate. Their testimonies are compelling. They were remorseful from almost the beginning of the killings. The show has resurrected the conversation. Society has learned more about sexual abuse and PTSD these last 3 decades. The story tells more than 2 sides of it.. Scott is misinformed and inaccurate

[@louvreloveru]

Too little too late Kim. #sheknew #sheknows

[@lulugoulart5014]

Never is too late to do good! Are you doing any good in your life?

[@NicoleMorris-o7p]

Kim will do anything for attention

[@samgumedze4994]

NO DEMON

[@Sienna80]

Exactly 💯

[@MochiColorsZanos]

Typical haters talking out of their a... Did you not hear the guy saying they have never filmed any of the prison visits? He had to ask her to film one prison visit for her show. So she decided to go to law school and has been working in prison reform for years now just for attention? God, grow up.

[@realtalkwithLorin]

That's what I'm saying. She's not a real lawyer. She only studied for like that one period of time when she wanted to get a picture of her taken at the White House. And then she dropped it like all of her past faces.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

​​​Kim never studied any law school😂😂😂😂 so Kim needs to grow up ​@@MochiColorsZanos🙋🙋🙋😂😂

[@wandacampbell6998]

First of all get over your feelings, KIm K is actually a lawyer now, she is making changes for her children, As moms we can not help who we date, Secondly I am a Corrections officer, this is programs for the inmates. It is also called reform. Kim was asked , and she followed through with it, She gains no audience from jail visits. Don't Bash and be haters The Kardashian"s are a beautiful family and all career women, don't be little men and hate women because we are strong , beautiful and powerful.

[@Barely_Tolerable]

She’s a lawyer? I thought she hadn’t passed the test? No hate just facts

[@nathandavern7030]

Why do you sound so sensitive. Why do women like you need to keep convincing yourselves that you're strong, powerful, and beautiful? How about instead of just saying It how about you actually prove yourself right.

[@NC1195_]

Did she create a new show about prison reform?

[@EmeraldJade66]

@@Barely_Tolerable How many times has Kim failed the bar? Kim Kardashian announced at the end of 2021 that she passed California's baby bar examination. However, before that, she failed California's baby bar exam three times. Personally, she's not Lawyer material. It takes more than being a celebrity who you know or to know the books to be a Lawyer. It's innate. You either have it or you don't to be a good Lawyer. Her Dad was a Lawyer, and he wasn't that good only mediocre. She's just doing it as a cover up for her past sins in the entertainment business. She needs to go down with Diddy! No questions asked.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Kim is not a lawyer plus she's not powerful or beautiful

[@Нэпфулло]

She about to learn about prison life from inside. P. Diddy holler 😂

[@esmesong]

You’re insane😂😂😂😭

[@GirlJayLea]

Maybe not..... I think he's singing ​@@esmesong

[@benjaminlibertarianscorpio]

her dad was a famous or infamous criminal defense attorney

[@lulugoulart5014]

You wish! Looks like you are going first!

[@Bby2937]

So did kim talk to the brothers or what I’m not watching all this

[@mariemoncada6980]

She did. the actors who played them talk about it more but nothing was recorded as far as I know. Kim hasn't spoken about it yet.

[@Gleyi07]

😂😂😂 I feel you

[@damien1781]

Good job Kim! I’m happy to hear you are taking things very seriously! All these poor unhappy haters are not stopping you from doing the right things and setting an example for your beautiful kids!

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

This is a publicity stunt and distraction from her involvement with Diddy Oil parties she's not a lawyer plus stop believing everything Kim says

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

Kim doesn't care about kids she's not a good mother

[@michelleriess7563]

Rubbish its all for herself !!!

[@damien1781]

@@MorrisMorris-b5u how do you know this pig?

[@Beautyedit01]

@@MorrisMorris-b5uyou need help

[@amjasper08]

Omg! Kim was dropping her kids off at school before she went to work? What an amazing woman!! 😂

[@clairefarrugia5455]

Yes she is. Amazing like all mums. We all deserve to be praised 🎉

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Kim is not a good mother ​@@clairefarrugia5455

[@Sanity586]

I drop off and pick up my kid 5 time per week and work full time. I'm guess I'm an AMAZING woman too! LOL

[@Ednschmdnnn]

It’s not really about them. It’s all about Kim. Just another thing to be relevant.

[@JCB671]

Really?? I disagree. I'm not a fan of Kim. But aside from her loving attention, she's not a bad person at all. I always see her helping the people around her grow. And she's still friends with everyone from her childhood - I think that says a lot about a person.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

​Do you live with Kim?🤔@@JCB671

[@jesmichel]

She’s already helped free people from prison.. this isn’t some new thing she has started, this has been years in the making. It was her that talked the president into releasing a bunch of inmates that had harsh sentences for marijuana charges.. and it is legal now.. times change and viewpoints change. These brothers deserve to be free.

[@lulugoulart5014]

Educated yourself before you put someone down. You don't know her and I am sure you don't do anything to help others.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

@@lulugoulart5014 Kim don't care about you defending her besides Kim is using the Menendez brothers for her involvement with Diddy

[@Sienna80]

Please Kim K does not care she does these things to always on her interest and make herself look good!

[@realtalkwithLorin]

Exactly. She really is one of the most selfish human beings I've ever seen. We never see her giving back unless she's getting attention for it

[@EmeraldJade66]

Totally agree with you @Sienna80! After all of her past sins in Hellywood she'll do anything to make herself look like Mother Teresa even if it kills her in the process. Good luck with that is all I can say. Can't stand her. If there was anything really good about her that she's done for humanity I wouldn't feel like I do about her. She's far from humble to say the least. Don't even get why she would choose of all things to want to advocate and reform prisoners! Hope she goes down with Diddy.

[@PinkSoldier2009]

Yes! Just like when she met Gypsy Rose to discuss "prison reform." Nothing came of it after the cameras were turned off. 🙄🙄

[@julieunderwood525]

Don't try to make Kim look good its all about her she's going down with Diddy !!!!

[@damien1781]

She’s not connected to diddy she’s decades after diddy you loser

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

​​@@damien1781Kim is connected to Diddy and his team so stop defending her she's not an angel🤷🤷

[@Lifesaparty93]

@@MorrisMorris-b5uwhat did she do with diddy?

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

@@Lifesaparty93 she helped Diddy trafficked children along with Corey Gamble and her mother Kris Jenner⬅️🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

[@Ariescertified]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@MarvinWormack-s9t]

BIG UP TO KIM💯♥️

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Kim and Diddy Oil jail

[@MarvinWormack-s9t]

@@TiffanyMorris-g2d seems like you been to ah Diddy party babygirl

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

@@MarvinWormack-s9t u describing Kim

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

@@MarvinWormack-s9t seems like the truth hurts u that Kim and her family involvement with Diddy is coming to light

[@MarvinWormack-s9t]

Not at all roach brain, stop hating and get you some Bible lessons that can help with media meltdown son.

[@bubblelina]

FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS ✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊

[@gomez51791]

Please stop it enough already Kim K is not a God” Yall acting like Jesus Christ walked into a woman’s prison good grief get yalls perspectives on regular human beings accurate 🙄😒😏

[@kristinev700]

Preaching about forgiveness😢

[@EirelavNotap]

Whole new respect for her now.

[@MamaLama1920]

Those brothers need to be released immediately!!!

[@foxtrot1214]

Impressive, Kim! Bravo

[@urmyfuture1945]

What ever you think about Kim, you gotta love her and give her huge respect for this 👏

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Kim is not a lawyer besides she's using the Menendez brothers for publicity stunts

[@audreyallen5744]

Kim K needs to know soon she will be roomies with the those brothers!!!!!😂

[@exotshi2451]

how was any of the series a fair portrayal????

[@michellerios8519]

My thoughts about this, I feel that Kim Kardashian is trying to do the right thing so people look past what she did wrong with the Diddy situation.

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

Kim is a criminal herself

[@AnonJ-fx5fl]

But she’s been doing this for awhile

[@RobbyRockaholic]

She’s been doing this for like 7 years she choose a cause and is just trying to do something good why does everyone have to judge

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

@@RobbyRockaholic Kim is trying to distract us from her involvement with Diddy Oil parties so she's worser than Diddy

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

@@RobbyRockaholic Kim is using the Menendez brothers for publicity stunts

[@KileyOhl]

I love this guy’s mission. K-klan or not. He is a spectacular human. ❤

[@cgr_2024]

Fair portray?? Give me a break, ET 😂😂😂😂 I hope this isn't a paid PR stunt cause the series wasn't good.

[@music.1.06]

They took away, programs that help prisoners find jobs and train them to find jobs.., after jailed individuals leaves prison?

[@joycewedel9084]

Being in prison unspoiled the Menedez brothers.

[@mariacaballero116]

So what are you saying??? They were spoiled and deserved to be abused by monster parents and put in prison. 🤔

[@benjaminlibertarianscorpio]

Her dad would be proud. He is looking up at her now, probably next to OJ.

[@desireehernandez3070]

I’m glad Kim they truly didn’t deserve jail time even the menudo back day some where abuse

[@soldelvalle9799]

Al these celebrities trying to clear their names because they knew Diddy and went to some of those party’s. I hope these women don’t mess the Menéndez brothers. I hate it when they idolize these people!

[@primalcritters]

Kim you go girl!!!!!

[@LokaLoka5]

Free the Menendez brothers

[@behindsuite13]

Too bad these guys never saw another Batman movie, after they got locked up.

[@lisaheinritz8080]

Kardashians I hear are going down with Diddy.

[@MIA-kv7qw]

not everything is about hate maybe you going down with him

[@samgumedze4994]

NO DEMON

[@ChrisMullen-j3s]

Cory & Kris are good friends with Diddy 😬

[@damien1781]

Nope nice try that’s you

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

​​​​@@damien1781Kim and her family is apart of Diddy circle so think again 😀😀😃😃😄😄😀😃😄🤷🤷🤷🙋🙋

[@DeMan59]

This is disgusting.

[@Gleyi07]

Can you elaborate?

[@ednarodriguez6952]

Love Kim ❤️

[@kathysturk7877]

Maybe checking it out, if she's involved with Diddy.

[@MichaelEngeldinger]

did the guards have orange juice for the two of you ?😊

[@kirstisamuelsen3712]

It is about time she does something real!

[@SharonLong-pq2sf]

No it's a publicity stunt

[@foxtrot1214]

LET THESE BOYS FREE!

[@tsheringwangmo2878]

let them out justice

[@NanaYLeonard]

Why do people think hating the kardashians is such a cool thing? The sheep mentality is wild.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Nobody's hating on Kim she's using the Menendez brothers to covered up her involvement with Diddy

[@lillbrittz]

Free these guys I believe they did it in self defense

[@SarahLynn-c4k]

It was premeditated... That's why they bought movie tickets before they killed their parents. They original alibi was they were at the movies which they were, they left the theater early and killed there parents.

[@donna2567]

Can't she just do this and we not hear about! It's a lot more humble.

[@Beautyedit01]

She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t, get a LIFE.

[@arrowdrive]

What’s his name?

[@nataliakrzemuski6425]

Sug knight is the same prison with Menendez brothers. That must be real! That is going down to the sound of pop and crips lol

[@edvinkingston5912]

KIM ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

No

[@EmeraldJade66]

🤑

[@Suziek-4]

you know time will come - mark my word, when prisons will be the normal life. When people will aim to go to prison to have the time and space to work on themselves. Outside its hard. You dont have time to wipe your a... Unless you are Kim K. How can i work on myself when i wake kids, drop kids ,run to work, fight with boss cos im 2 min late, kids get sick, can't pick up or i lose job, kid stays in school, my beloved dog has not been walked, get out of work, pick kid up, throw up in car, take car to clean, get kid to doctor, walk dog, make lunch for next day, take out my tampax - been in all day, water plants, make bed, love my kid, make dinner, more sick, more worrying....Im not kim K, i have no help. Prison would be better at this stage.

[@lulugoulart5014]

It's so great that Kim uses her name and knowledge in Law to help them to be free.

[@TiffanyMorris-g2d]

Nobody takes Kim seriously

[@veracity8968]

If anything Erik was definitely NOT arrogant !!!!!

[@kristinev700]

❤

[@DougJames-h3r]

Kim just wants more fame

[@Malouco]

Caín Velásquez Kimberly…. Caín….imagine a man u trusted hurt u little girl/boy and u were a total warrior designed to protect and train for battles. That is Cain. WTF WAS THAT MAN EVEN THINKING WHAT A REPTILIAN

[@mlsa9520]

Maybe you guys should visit the victims and/or the victims' families. You have nothing to be proud of. Ridiculous.

[@arrowdrive]

Don’t try to make her look good. You’re admitting that you quietly visited prisons with here, especially youth peosons, is SICKENING!!! Juveniles should never be imprisoned. Just knowing predators are able to see them, in a cell where no one will hear them scream…

[@ICU-r4b]

Kim’s not gonna be able to help anybody because she’s going to GETMO BECAUSE SHE’S INVOLVED WITH Diddy The rest is right around the corner💥

[@goyetherefore603]

They keep saying the “harmed they cause with their crime” but I can only think of the positives 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@deannaandrews1328]

I find it really sad that they're spending their lives in regret. We already know they feel remorse for what they've done. But the time frame this all happened no one was listening to them about their abuse. I honestly feel like that was their last resort and we all need to take that in consideration. I say let them go.

[@GirlJayLea]

This is a joke... Why is our prison system letting these people tour the prison? Talk to inmates? What's wrong with this country

[@LMarieCarson]

Hopefully Kim will also tell the truth about what happened to Ye & others, which dooms many to a life of public deception likened to a systemic prison. Although wouldn’t necessarily be a publicity making venture, could be honest heart work though.

[@skystann]

Rosie, KK or any high profile powerful world influencer NEEDS to FREE ERIK 👬 LYLE

[@Lizbeth7799]

She doesn’t cook, clean y has nannies 😂

[@DannyRayburn-mn3tx]

All this reform is so great! I love giving people who have done horrible things a second chance! Let's free Jose and Kitty!!! Oh, wait....

[@lpmmxvii7422]

Just cause u care or pretend to care doesn't mean the ppl u "care" about are innocent or deserve sympathy

[@jordanbyrd6251]

Someone of them do though?

[@lpmmxvii7422]

@jordanbyrd6251 I don't believe it, so it's for self gain these ppl arnt victims

[@kirstisamuelsen3712]

I will tell my daughters Now she is a good rollemodel for them

[@SharonLong-pq2sf]

No she's not a good role model

[@christine-t8v]

not a fan of hers at all

[@miamoser2389]

I have hope in her. She also helped Cintoya Brown who is a victim of pedophiles too.

[@akshayaravi7680]

How would he know if tgey were portrayed perfectly he only knew them in the prison ( that too for what one or two visits?) he is not their family or friend to know them. The brothers can have an opinion on how they were portrayed, its their right. Netflix is making money based on their life forgive the brothers for having an option on that

[@nataliakrzemuski6425]

Now she wants to go to law school. For whatever reason is not really sure what she wants 😅

[@jordanbyrd6251]

I’m sorry I don’t think it’s a fair story.

[@anam289]

I know Kim seems to be doing some 'good' for some cases of imprisonment but I find it questionable that she does that to distract us when she and her family are under fire for whatever reason 🤔 like her and her family's involvement in Diddy's parties etc. her timing is very strategic and it seems to work on people. A so called 'good' facete of her or Master manipulater?

[@Alonso.A.M]

what they did was wrong but they have already paid for it by faaaaar. Freedom for the brothers

[@ariellewht]

Wait huh? We aren’t considering let those brothers out right?!

[@GavinAllan-bd5fp]

Wonder how much the Kardashians paid this man...?

[@veronicamontalvo6219]

Marcellus Williams

[@vangielacap9978]

I don’t understand some people here. Im not a fan of kim but come on this lady is doing something to help people and yet she still fake , if she is not doing anything she is selfish.. Atleast she is doing something how about you?

[@NanaYLeonard]

That’s people for you! Not one original idea ever…they heard it’s cool to hate that family

[@MorrisMorris-b5u]

Kim is using the Menendez brothers to covered up her involvement with Diddy

[@jeanoblair1517]

So much ppl have something say about Kim seeking attention, smh. and the funniest thing all who talking not even trying to do 1/2min of their time or donate a grain of salt or rice to anyone, but yet still they have so much to say!!! Smh jealousy n bias!

[@natasharichardson4609]

I think they wouldn't reoffend if they were free. Idc about her., but if she's helping people good!

[@Bana-d1r]

Is he kissed his brother on his mouth ?

[@TheCelestialsparrow]

Kimmy in the I.E? Never thought that would happen

[@nataliakrzemuski6425]

She should stay in prison. 😅

[@247BadMamaJama]

I’m old enough to remember this case…and at the end of the day these are (2) brothers that committed a premeditated murder rather than move on with their ADULT lives (and it cannot be ignored that it would have cost them a significant inheritance🤦🏽‍♀️.) Many people are abused that do NOT commit murder…this is setting a horrible approach and precedent around abuse!!! If these were (2) black or brown men, people would have demanded that they get thrown UNDER the jail🤷🏽‍♀️….so many black and brown men are serving life sentences for FAR LESS egregious crimes. The brothers are fortunate that they did not get the death penalty. KEEP THEM LOCKED UP FOR LIFE!!!🙅🏽‍♀️

[@19longjane]

Not even going to listen to her rambling voice 🤮

[@Ola-1114]

The serie is shit, Will never watch that trash Free the brothers 😢😢

[@joshlolo-h4u]

❤