Inside Look: Arc'teryx Thorium AR Jacket

The Thorium is a versatile and general multi-purpose down jacket that can be used as a winter mid layer or just as a warm everyday jacket. This season the jacket has had a few updates to make it even warmer and fit even better.
1:20 What is it made from?
5:11 What are the features?
8:45 How does it fit?
10:24 Where does it fit in the layering system?
11:34 Summary
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[@SaoGage]

Just picked up a Thorium AR and it's absolutely phenomenal for the price. You can feel the durability and toughness of the face fabric, and it's substantial and warm. I'm 6'2 and 235lbs and the XL fits like a glove. Worth the money.

[@DrummerMike86]

Could you wear it in minus weather and still be warm?

[@vekteren3549]

Yeah i got mine for 1994NOK, which is 214 dollars you can't beat that price. Absolutely beautiful winter jacket! 😍

[@vekteren3549]

@V R - 7 should be just fine it's when you reach - 10 and upwords you may encounter havin less warmth

[@theknowlodge8294]

V R - medium, probably

[@Murphy252000]

Ordered from these guys last year, both things never worked out unfortunately, company was a pleasure to use!!!!!!

[@TheGangstaNun]

Thanks for doing this review/overview. So much easier to make a purchase when you can see the jacket in action. Just bought this jacket from the website, I wanted to buy it in XS but could only buy it in Small. Hopefully that should still fit alright. Thanks Paul

[@jamesmasterson6187]

hi mate, how did you go with the s

[@TheGangstaNun]

@@jamesmasterson6187 it's fits, definitely short on the torso length but I do have quite a long torso. I'm 6ft with probably a 36" chest for reference.

[@jamesmasterson6187]

@@TheGangstaNun thank you for your reply mate.... I'm about 5,6 😂 so I don't think I'd have any luck with a small. Sleeve length always kills me with Arcteryx.

[@tubefreakmuva]

Your my favourite reviewer! And that jacket is bloody brilliant.

[@trekitt]

Thanks very much, and it is a lovely thing to own.

[@GEKWINS]

Very durable. I fell down a crag into a thorn bush and there are no leaks, great investment..

[@trekitt]

Whoops, maybe it cushioned your fall a bit!

[@Beorn.]

Hi great video, I`m learning a lot from watching these, I have a question for you about Arc`teryx in general if you can advise please. I walk a lot on beaches so my clothing is exposed to the salty air . A well known make I used to own wasn't proof against this and within a season a lot of the fittings on my boots and jacket showed signs of degradation and corrosion. I am currently using Helly Hansen stuff and that seems ok so far. I chose them specifically as they have a marine heritage. How would these clothes stand up to that?

[@trekitt]

Generally saltwater will ruin most boots quite quickly, so we wouldn't recommend using anything you care about too much if you plan on getting the boots wet. Clothing wise, it should all perform to the usual high standards as long as it's washed regularly (once a month or so). One last thing to mention is to always wash your outdoor kit with products such as Nikwax Tech Wash or Grangers Performance Wash rather than your standard household detergent.

[@billqsack]

Thanks fir the review. Have you come across the Jotnar Fenrir jacket? How does this compare to that? Thanks.

[@trekitt]

We did stock the Fenrir a few years ago, but it's changed quite a lot since then so we haven't had the chance to use the latest model. The Thorium does feature more down but at a lower quality, so it's more suitable for low-intensity activities whereas the Fenrir is aimed more at climbing, mountaineering and skiing.

[@spirodoggy30]

What Arcteryx hard shell do you layer over it? Did you recommend sizing up on the shell or use the same size (large on both or large on the Thorium and XL on the shell?)

[@trekitt]

It depends when you're doing in the jacket. We stock a wide range of Arc'teryx shells, from the lightweight Alpha FL all the way up to the super tough Beta SV. Whether you need to layer up or not will depend on which shell you opt for, as some feature larger cuts than others for additional layers. For example, you'll most likely stick to your usual size in the Beta SV, whereas you may have to size up for the Beta SL. I'd recommend having a browse of the shell jackets we stock and narrowing it down based on activity. Kind regards, Harry. Shop all Arc'teryx shell jackets: www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/arcteryx/jackets/waterproof

[@cjt1981]

Thanks for your excellent videos! How does this compare warmth-wise to the Atom AR Hoody?

[@trekitt]

The Thorium is warmer and more packable thanks to the high quality down insulation, but the Atom is better in changeable weather conditions.

[@leonardogarrido]

Great review, makes me want buy one

[@x3dfritz]

Does the main zipper stay together? I heard previous iterations had a zipper that became unzipped with just walking around. Thanks!

[@trekitt]

There are now 'braking bumps' at the top of the zip to prevent it coming undone during use. Kind regards, Harry.

[@TheTrailDancer]

Hey Paul, Which jacket do you prefer between the Arcteryx Thorium AR, Fjällräven Keb Touring? Second question, what are your thoughts between the Cerium LT vs the Atom LT? Are there any other puffies that you like in that range for hiking? Rab, Montane, etc...??? I have a lot of them, just wanted your thoughts again... Thanks!

[@trekitt]

Both fantastic jackets, although the Thorium does feel more robust when on. That being said, I prefer the fit of the Keb Touring. The Cerium is the more packable, lightweight midlayer but not particularly suitable as an outer layer here in the UK unless the weather is completely dry, whereas the Atom can be used virtually all of the time but isn't as packable or lightweight. Jackets have become so good these days that there's very little separating them besides fit and personal preference! My current favourite insulated jacket is the Haglofs V Series Mimic, which I'd highly recommend. Regards, Harry.

[@TheTrailDancer]

@@trekitt Thanks! I STILL haven't purchased any Haglofs! Will someday! :)

[@tomasriestra9262]

Hi there! I'm planning a trip to Everest Base Camp, and I'm a bite concerned about what insultaed layer should I use. Now I'm between the Patagonia DAS Parka and the Arcteryx Thorium Ar, but I can't decide which one would be better for using as my outer layer while trekking or as my insulation in the cold nights when sleeping. I'd really appreciate your advice on this. Thank you very much!

[@trekitt]

To be honest, either of those jackets would work for your intended trip. Your primary focus will be on how best they fit, especially over any other layers that you intend to wear. Thanks for watching. Paul.

[@thomasellingsen1755]

Hi Paul! I really love your videos. How would you say this stacks up against the Microlight and the Ghost Whisperer? Is it more heavyweight?

[@trekitt]

Unfortunately we can't comment on the Ghost Whisperer as it isn't an item we stock, however the Thorium is a much bigger and warmer jacket than the Microlight Alpine. The down is the same quality, but there's far more of it. The outer fabric on the Thorium is also more durable, but the Microlight will pack down smaller. It depends how much warmth you need, whether you'll be using the jacket primarily as an outer or a midlayer and which activities you'll be carrying out.

[@thomasellingsen1755]

Thanks a lot for your answer. I have Cerium LT already, a few years old. I think it's warm enough but still what I would no longer consider rugged enough for my relatively calm outdoor mountain activities, trekking and skiing, sometimes in dense woods. I've already ripped the nylon once, and it seems every time I pack it down it takes hours to decompress afterwards. I think it may be dying, so I'm using it more as a fashion piece now. Instead I've got a Rab Xenon X packed down on my trips now, but I miss the feeling of down. Could the Thorium be my next jacket

[@trekitt]

@@thomasellingsen1755 If you're happy adding a little warmth, you'll get along really well with the Thorium. The outer fabric feels (and is) far more durable, plus the synthetically insulated sections in the armpits, cuffs and various other places means it will resist moisture/being stuffed into a rucksack.

[@thomasellingsen1755]

Nice to know! Thank you :)

[@guertinpower]

Do you prefer the Arcteryx Thorium AR or the Fjallraven Keb touring down jacket? I know they are different but in global if you have to only pick one? Thank you

[@trekitt]

Both are brilliant, and it will all come down to which fits you best. Both use a super high quality down, use tough outer fabrics and have a multitude of useful mountain/trekking features, but it depends which one fits you best, as that one will provide the most warmth.

[@VirtuosityToniLekic]

thank for the review, I'm new into Arcteryx jackets, so my question is which model is completely 100% waterproof?

[@trekitt]

No problem! Arc'teryx produce a wide range of waterproof jackets, however generally (unless you're primarily using the jacket for everyday use) it's better to have an insulated jacket and a waterproof separate. For more info on layering, we'd recommend watching this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZm8gHmZbbBgn9E Arc'teryx insulated jackets: www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/arcteryx/jackets/insulated Arc'teryx waterproof jackets: www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/arcteryx/jackets/waterproof

[@VirtuosityToniLekic]

I just bought Cerium LT, and very happy with it ;-)

[@trekitt]

@V R Skip to 8:46 and you'll find Paul's fit section. Kind regards, Harry.

[@NPow94]

Have you guys ever reviewed the Cerium SV? Would love to get your thoughts on that vs this.

[@trekitt]

The Cerium SV is not one that we are stocking this season so we wont be producing one of our Inside Look videos for that model. It's a great jacket though! Thanks for watching. Paul.

[@michaelwalter3311]

I own a Zeta SL and a strong fleece. Would you recommend the thorium as an addition for Nepal? (January, Very cold and windy, but dry) i would use it as insulation in the evenings, but also as outer layer trekking. My Pack is probably around 12-14kg

[@trekitt]

It's always incredibly useful to have a packable insulated layer with you, so we'd say that would be a good addition to your kit.

[@okan702]

Hello, I just came across your channel and video! I live in Boston ma and the winters are really cold for me. With the proper layering ( base and mid) can this jacket be worn? for -25 or -30C days if not what is your advice. Thank you!

[@trekitt]

Hi Okan and welcome to our channel. The Thorium would work at those temperatures, with the appropriate layers, provided you were active and generating heat. If you were more sedentary you'd want something with more insulation. Paul.

[@okan702]

@@trekitt Thank you very much for youe answer, im in between this jacket and feathered friends volant… which one should i go with? Thank you

[@trekitt]

@@okan702 We're fairly biased as the Nebula is an item we stock and the Volant isn't I'm afraid. So, I'd go Nebula! Harry.

[@ajwerkheiser6994]

Would you prefer the THORIUM AR HOODY or the Arc'teryx Atom AR Insulated Hoodie?

[@trekitt]

Personally, I'd prefer the Thorium as I'm a sucker for a cosy down jacket. But if you're worried about it getting soaked, or need something easier to clean, I'd go for the Atom AR. Thanks for watching. Paul.

[@reubencana]

Paul thanks for the videos. Can you tell me which one is more warmer and durable compared to Thorium vs Rab Positron? Or will you recommend anything for a -25 /-30 c climate?

[@trekitt]

The Positron Pro is significantly warmer, with 300g of down vs the Thorium's 132g of down/Coreloft. Durability wise it probably goes to the Positron as well. Harry

[@reubencana]

@@trekitt Thanks Harry for your insight. One more I was speaking to a rep from Rab and she said I could go with Neutrino Pro Down as its more affordable and the questions again compared to Thorium will you still go with Neurino (in Canada we do not have that much experience with Rab the way in Europe) for warmth and durability? Thanks again.

[@K3S01L2]

Does the main pockets have fleece lining inside?

[@trekitt]

They don't I'm afraid. An alternative that does is the Fjallraven Keb Touring; I'll pop a link below. Kind regards, Harry. www.trekitt.co.uk/38435/products/fjallraven-mens-keb-touring-down-jacket-black.aspx

[@davidperez4381]

How does this compare to the Columbia voodoo 590 turbodown?? Does any other brand offer similar jackets that won’t cost you an arm and leg??

[@trekitt]

I'm afraid we haven't had any experience with that particular jacket, so we wouldn't be able to offer a detailed comparison. The cheapest alternative option we stock is the M.E Lightline which we sell for £174.99. The main difference between the two is that the Lightline has a lower quality down (but still super high in general) and a thicker outer fabric, so it won't pack down as small but still offers similar warmth. You can find it here: www.trekitt.co.uk/32691/products/mountain-equipment-mens-lightline-jacket-black.aspx

[@jls1337]

I see you keep pulling down on the jacket. Is that a nervous tic or does the jacket ride up a lot? Should you be wearing a larger size?

[@trekitt]

Hi, well spotted. I guess it's a bit of a nervous thing and an effort to keep the Thorium looking good on me. Being so tall I'm often aware that the jacket may be riding up a bit, however, the jacket is the correct size for me. Paul.

[@jhss2157]

How would this hold up as a ski jacket in dry conditions? Have a Beta AR to throw over it in adverse conditions.

[@trekitt]

Hi, the Thorium would work well as a ski jacket in cold and dry conditions thanks to the tough outer fabric. Paul.

[@TheTrailDancer]

Do you think the CERIUM LT is warmer?

[@trekitt]

Hi, the Thorium AR is defo warmer than the Cerium LT. Even though the Cerium has a higher fill power, the Throium has about 30% more down in it! Paul.

[@Whachadoon]

Would this jacket be good for trekking/backpacking in the U.K. winter? Not sure if it would be too hot, or maybe it would be just right with a T-shirt on underneath!

[@trekitt]

It does depend on how warm you are as a person, but I'd find it far too warm for active use here in the UK. I'd look at wearing more thin layers rather than one large one, as this allows you to effectively dump heat when you're on the move and add warmth when stationary. We've got a good video on layering here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZm8gHmZbbBgn9E

[@Whachadoon]

@@trekittThanks!!! Also you say that the jacket is special in a way because of the 30D fabric that’s usually seen on expedition jackets. but the Rab microlight jacket also has 30D nylon... and it’s cheaper. Would the Rab microlight compare well with this arcteryx?

[@lebronjames3276]

Hello, i need a buy jacket like this. Whats your advice? Arc’teryx Thorium AR Hoody or Arc’teryx Cerium LT Hoody which is best? Can you explain please, i will waiting for you. Thanks.

[@trekitt]

The Thorium is more durable, warmer and has a more relaxed fit, whereas the Cerium LT is lighter, more packable, not quite as warm and has a trimmer fit. The Cerium is more of an active piece, whereas the Thorium is better when you're not moving quite as quickly, belaying for example. It all comes down to how warm you need to be and which activities you'll be carrying out.

[@lebronjames3276]

Trekitt Mountain Sports you are best thanks for comment, thanks for huge explain!!!

[@grahamharlow7471]

I there.. Been looking at this jacket also the hoodless version the cerium, looking at them and reading the comments reviews are really making me hesitant, far to many reviews pointing out issues, zips are fussy, the hood is cumbersome, fine when in use but very awkward when not using it, even lots of comments basically saying/describing arcteryx as overpriced rubbish, the thorium and cerium I have noticed the logo is embroidered on as apposed to just being printed on, one review even said the logo peeled off... No doubt these jackets do look good but I'm really really unsure about buying one certainly online without seeing one in a shop.. Thoughts and your opinion on this, I know that question may seem odd after you have just spent over 10 mins showing us the jacket in this review.. Thanks

[@trekitt]

If you're unsure about purchasing online we'd always recommend a visit in-store as it will allow you to make a better judgement of fit and quality before committing to the purchase. Unfortunately we are not currently stocking Arc'teryx products, but can still highly recommend them as a brand for outdoor clothing. Just be sure to pop down to your local stockist and give them a try on for yourself, the staff there will also be able to offer their advice and possibly address some of your concerns.

[@grahamharlow7471]

@@trekitt OK thanks for that.. I think I will go and check them out in a stockist in Manchester... 👍

[@osareme2462]

What’s the deference with this and the CERIUM LT HOODY ?

[@trekitt]

The Cerium LT uses a higher quality down, a thinner face fabric and lighter features to make it more suitable for fast and light use in the mountains (climbing, scrambling etc) when packsize is a priority. The Thorium uses a tougher, more durable, more weather resistant outer fabric but a lower quality down to make it better as an 'all round' piece which you could use for belaying, walking, alpine trekking, etc.

[@osareme2462]

Trekitt Mountain Sports thank you very much the THORIUM AR HOODY would be best for me walking around in the city

[@robertgelhaus7447]

Also the Cereum has a slimmer fit, while the Thorium has a fuller fit.

[@innocentoak3437]

How does this compare to the cerium lt? (including warmth?)

[@trekitt]

The Thorium is far, far warmer! The outer fabric is more wind and water resistant, plus there's far more insulation to keep you toasty. The Cerium will pack down much smaller and is a better midlayer, but if it's a competition of warmth, the Thorium takes it.

[@canbsynlo2608]

@@trekitt which would you prefer as a midlayer under a beta shell; the thorium or the cerium lt? main concern being warmth.

[@trekitt]

@@canbsynlo2608 It depends how cold it will be, the thickness of your baselayer and most importantly how warm you are as a person. In most circumstances the Cerium will be more than warm enough, but we can't say for certain without knowing the above.

[@scotthunter4]

The Cerium SV is the one to buy if you want 850FP in a lighter jacket, the warmth is comparable to the Thorium AR but it’s more packable

[@baikalc.4260]

how does this jacket compare to ghost whispere jacket with same specs? thank you.

[@trekitt]

Hi Luiz, The Mountain Hardware Ghost Whisperer is a very different jacket compared to the Thorium AR as it is a micro baffle down jacket with 800FP down and contains a hell of a lot less down. The Thorium AR has bigger baffles and more grams of 750FP down so it is never going to be a like for like comparison. If warmth is key then go for the Thorium AR as it is going to be a lot warmer compared to the Ghost Whisperer. If small weight and small pack size are what you are after, then go with the Ghost Whisperer...But as I mentioned before these are 2 very different jackets. All the best, Will

[@baikalc.4260]

@@trekitt ,thank you. i v ordered thr Rab zero G jacket. well see if this thing is as warm as they claim it to be..

[@th3manias]

One of the criticisms of previous versions was that the zip easily came undone. Something like a gentle tug from both sides would cause the zip to undo. Have they fixed this issue?

[@trekitt]

They have indeed. The zip has two little in-built 'stoppers' (you can't see them) which prevent the zip coming undone on its own.

[@maththeteacher]

I got the revised one and the zipper doesn't unzip as easily as previous version which I hated for that.

[@PierreMontgomery]

Zipper now locks in place. I just bought this coat and its terrific.

[@davidschomer9655]

Nothing like high-end gear that wasn't quality checked before leaving the factory because money grows on trees.

[@dcaudwell]

....but this was nothing to do with quality-control. It was a design decision and then, in the latest version, a design change! And as always there are pros and cons to each design decision.

[@jlanda3511]

What type of pants are you wearing

[@trekitt]

Paul is wearing the Fjallraven Vidda Pro Trousers, you can find them here: www.trekitt.co.uk/facetresults.aspx?Term=Vidda%20pro

[@AlainSTO]

I have a Cerium SV, but I've always wondered how it compares to with this warmth-wise and their uses.

[@trekitt]

The Cerium SV has more insulation at a higher quality, plus the outer fabric is lighter, however this means it isn't as durable as the Thorium. The Thorium is a tougher jacket overall and features a slight different fit, however both are brilliant in mountainous environments.

[@AlainSTO]

Thanks!

[@meganprosser8827]

Trekitt Mountain Sports How does the fit differ?

[@trekitt]

@V R For just everyday use the Cerium SV should be absolutely fine, however this does differ on your activity, how warm you are generally, which layers you have underneath, etc. Arc'teryx don't produce a Thorium SV, just the AR.

[@davidcieslak7562]

Is the new atom ar longer than the thorium paul

[@trekitt]

Hi David, the Atom AR is about 2cm longer than the Thorium. Thanks for watching. Paul.

[@justinitsthatguyme010]

This doesn't fit tight under the armpits does it? I bought the ATOM AR, which I returned, cause I can't stand the tight underarm feeling of it. Thanks!

[@trekitt]

Neither Paul or I have had an issue with underarm tightness with the Thorium, but it does fit fairly similarly to the Atom AR.

[@justinitsthatguyme010]

@@trekitt ok thank you!

[@PKRKris]

Please can you tell me what size it is that you are wearing?

[@trekitt]

Paul was wearing a size large.

[@PKRKris]

Trekitt Mountain Sports brilliant thanks.

[@cmarshall5356]

Is the down treated?

[@trekitt]

No, the down isn't treated in this particular jacket.

[@pgreenx]

Why did they go with 750 fill vs higher quality?

[@trekitt]

The Cerium range uses 850 FP and is designed to be the lightest, most packable option with a higher price point, the Thorium uses an ever so slightly (but barely noticeable) lower 750 FP as it isn't designed to be the lightest and most packable, but rather one of the most durable and reliable with a lower price.

[@Datsyzerberg]

Lower fill powers are more resistant to moisture. Brilliant jacket.

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

How does this jacket compare to the Rab Electron?

[@trekitt]

The Electron is more packable, but the Thorium is tougher. Both are quite similar in warmth, but the Electron feels like a more technical piece when you're wearing it. It largely comes down to which fits you best and what you're using the jacket for, so we'd recommend trying both on if you can. Kind regards, Harry.

[@rubasznyrabarbar]

​@@trekitt Thx for your reviews. These are some of the bests! I have a follow-up question concerned Thorium/Electron comparison. I am looking for an urban winter jacket that will do up to -10C. This being said, I would like the coat to be fairly windproof as well. Is there a noticeable difference between Thorium and Electron when it comes to wind stopping?

[@trekitt]

@@rubasznyrabarbar They're both fairly similar in regards to wind resistance, however neither are completely windproof. For everyday use though, you most likely won't feel any wind pass through. Kind regards, Harry.

[@1thehandyvan]

Can you slip in there recommended retail price

[@trekitt]

Hi Lee, RRP's tend to change season-to-season, so we opt not to include prices. For a quick price check, there's always a link to the product in the description below. Harry

[@PhilHaddon]

It's a shame the Fjallraven Keb down jacket doesn't have the synthetic areas under the arms and cuffs.

[@trekitt]

Unless you're an extremely sweaty user or wearing too many layers, you probably won't notice a difference. I have a Montane Anti-Freeze (down all over, no synthetic) and I've never felt soggy/clammy as a result of the down becoming saturated. Harry

[@PhilHaddon]

@@trekitt Thanks Harry. Just one more thing .... Is the Keb down jacket too much for winter walks out in the UK? Nothing too strenuous at all really. I have the Keb Eco-shell so was thinking of getting the Keb down but I fear it might be too warm

[@trekitt]

@@PhilHaddon I can only speak from personal experience as everyone is different, but it'd be too warm for me to use for walking/active use. I'd use it as something to pop on when stationary or for everyday use.

[@krystovvify]

Hi! I'm interested in buying this jacket and use it as an everyday jacket for the urban winter. I live in The Netherlands (climate similar "wet" to the UK), and my question is if this jacket is waterproof enough for these type of winters and everyday use? Not planning to constantly walking through rain, but when it does rain: I don't want to be soaked. Cheers!

[@trekitt]

The Thorium is slightly water resistant, but by no means waterproof, so we would never aim to wear it in the rain. The best two options are to either carry a shell with you when rain is expected, or look at a synthetically insulated alternative which will offer warmth even when wet. A good option is the Arc'teryx Atom AR which we stock in 4 colours. www.trekitt.co.uk/38174/products/arcteryx-mens-atom-ar-hoody-iliad.aspx

[@krystovvify]

Trekitt great! Thanks for the reply. And the Atom AR; is that one more waterproof or is it just warmer when wet? Cheers.

[@trekitt]

@@krystovvify The Atom has less stitching, so the water will take longer to pass through - neither are waterproof though. For everyday use the Atom will be water resistant enough, but we'd stay away from down if you're expecting to wear it in the rain.

[@TacticalPlumber]

Wish you would show your jackets zipped up too instead of always open 1/4 the way

[@trekitt]

Fair point, but we need to keep the mic free. We'll try and include "zipped-up" shots in future. Thanks for watching.

[@TacticalPlumber]

Trekitt Aww totally undestand. Still an informative video, ended up buying the thorium because of the vid from yourselves anyway, and one of your awesome mrt water bottles 👍🏼

[@blaisecliche5848]

Will this coat keep me warm at -20C?

[@trekitt]

It's difficult to say I'm afraid. It depends how many layers you have underneath, what you're doing in the jacket (i.e, mountaineering or just urban use), how warm you are as a person, windchill etc. If you could provide a little more information we will be able to give you a better answer. Kind regards.

[@blaisecliche5848]

@@trekittI normally put on a hoodie underneath and it would be for urban use only!

[@trekitt]

@@blaisecliche5848 Theoretically it should be fine then; since it's for urban use you can always wear a thicker baselayer/hoody if you feel a little cold.

[@BenNuProductions]

anything made by "Arc'teryx" is for suckers (similar to anything made by Apple beyond 2018)

[@trekitt]

Hmmm, interesting comment. We love Arcteryx kit, the attention to detail and high quality of construction is industry leading. Their products are admittedly very "focused" and may not be to everyone's taste; but to tarnish them with such a generalisation is a little unfair.

[@BenNuProductions]

​@@trekitt I'm Canadian and we take great pride in brands/companies that are Canadian made so it's hard for me to admit it but it's the truth..Lots of other outdoor companies offer the same "attention to detail and high quality of construction" but they do it for a much more reasonable price (hence why I made the comparison to modern day Apple)

[@canyonoverlook9937]

It looks like a nice jacket except for the collar and hood. As usual it's poorly designed. Look at 8:32. The collar is hitting him in the face when it isn't zipped all the way. He is also loosing a lot of heat down the front because it isn't zipped all the way. These jackets should have a zip off hood with the collar completely separate from the hood.This makes the jacket more versatile. The zipper should come up to the base of the neck and then the collar should be a flip-up collar that you snap.