Inside Look: Lawyer on Chidimma Adetshina - Miss SA Controversy with Home Affairs

[@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276]

As a country we are doomed if our lawyers they don't know the difference between patriotism and xenophobia.

[@NonsoOkoye-pe4rf]

Hate is not patriotism!!

[@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276]

@@NonsoOkoye-pe4rf If we hate foreigners why in South Africa we don't have refugee camps and you have refugee camps in your country?

[@whitewitch2511]

Shut up ​@@NonsoOkoye-pe4rf

[@T.Mothibi]

​@@NonsoOkoye-pe4rf Anti illegal immigration is not hate

[@fifimakhubu8732]

Problem is that they go out of their way to sound politically correct

[@Tee-e4i]

As South Africans we need to approach the constitutional court to challenge the xenophobic claims made against the citizens of this country.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

The ConCourt will only deal with constitutional matters. The High Court cam entertain a claim for damages if there is a person, or groups who can collectively sue the wrong doer. However, litigation is also expensive.

[@Tee-e4i]

@@InsightsProfKommalI mentioned that approach only as a last resort, for when all else fails in the lower courts. If the matter isn't resolved by the SAHRC or other courts, then yes, one could escalate it to the Constitutional Court. This usually means starting with a legal case in a lower court, like the Equality Court or High Court, depending on the specifics of the xenophobic statements. If the outcome there isn't satisfactory, you can appeal all the way up to the Constitutional Court. But let's be real here. It seems there's a tendency, particularly among certain far-right white liberals, to throw the term 'xenophobia' around as if it were some trendy, attention-grabbing buzzword. If you dig through the literature as far back as 2003, you'll find that headlines from white-owned media were the ones plastering 'xenophobia' across their pages, possibly to perpetuate the very stereotypes they now claim to fight against. here is some example for you: "Aliens Invading Our Streets" - Sunday Times (2003) "Illegal Immigrants Overrun SA's Cities" - The Star (2003) "Foreigners Blamed for Crime Surge" - Sowetan (2003) And now, suddenly, it’s all flipped-the same people who once pushed this narrative are labeling South Africans as xenophobic whenever we speak out about real issues like crime and drug trafficking. Even former President Mbeki questioned the use of 'xenophobia' to describe South Africans, who have lived side by side with people from across the continent for years. In many of our villages, Sotho nationals have found homes, married, and become part of our communities. So, please, let’s not pretend that we, as South Africans, can't bring cases to court just like AfroForum does. If they can rally as a minority group and raise funds to bring their issues to court, are you seriously suggesting we can’t do the same? Get real.

[@Tee-e4i]

@@InsightsProfKommal Last time i checked South African Constitution protects the rights to dignity, equality, and non-discrimination. And that is a constitutional matter.

[@hlengsmthunzi]

Leave that, those who call us xeno are tribalists, thet even want to separate and they still have what u call outcast , they call it OSU...hunger doest joke when the goverment punish ur stomach while u have land...pain can make u swear even at God himself..leave them n be a happ xeno

[@stephaniesnyders340]

There is not xenophobia here, her parents are criminals and she was informed as she grewup. She had only a Nigerian and Mozambique flags. She is definitely not innocent and for her to go to home affairs is that she thought our systems were of sub standards. She is definitely not a citizen

[@InsightsProfKommal]

100% agreed Based on Home Affairs findings, it appears that Chidimma was a beneficiary of a crime. It is unlikely that she didn't know that the name on her birth certificate is not that if her real mother. The proceeds of crime must be rectified and resolved. It's like being sold stolen goods, you don't get to keep it.

[@matrix0085]

@stephaniesnyders340 Better yet, Nigerian's in Nigeria, are questioning what tribe she is from, because she has 2 tribe names, and they raised concerns about the importance of other Nigerian's contestants, had to go to the correct processing? 😉 yet she is a contestant

[@mcdonald1821]

But they don't question her nationality. We know she is Nigerian and that's enough for us.

[@bongiwebuthelezi9190]

I hope the South African woman whose identity was stolen by Chichi’s mother, pursues civil action against her and gets some money for all this trauma.

[@user-uq8kb4xp4f]

We , the black South Africans will be there to support her.. she's been robbed of many opportunities.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Absolutely agree! The fraud must be prosecuted, and the mother may have rights to sue for damages

[@InsightsProfKommal]

we should and we must! It is our people!

[@neommutle8033]

What about the women whose identity was stolen? How she has suffered? Who is she, where is she ? 😢 Identity theft is a big problem in SA.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

It is a very serious problem. Hopefully the South African Mother comes forward and seeks damages via the courts.

[@mataelomokeretla8423]

The mother for sure she was in south Africa illegally now the child is paying the price

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Based on Home Affairs findings, it appears that Chidimma was a beneficiary of a crime. The proceeds of crime must be rectified and resolved. It's like being sold stolen goods, you don't get to keep it.

[@victormumba6992]

Home Affairs is to blame.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

agreed, but the other parties are officials involved and the parents.

[@NEOzzzar]

This lawyer is just mumbling about xenophobia like a robot 🥱

[@InsightsProfKommal]

It's a complex topic right? however the legal frameworks discussed were good for us, did it work for you?

[@fikilehlatshwayo210]

Why are you talking about xenophobia I don't understand are we not allowed to raise our concern,

[@InsightsProfKommal]

you can and you must! the Corruption must be stopped...South Africa and all those who lawfully live in it must enjoy!

[@user-nx2zd3yj9l]

Thank you sir for truth unlike that lawyer

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Thanks kindly. We strive to provide experts views on current affairs and topics. Hopefully we can contribute to the education and conversations meaningfully.

[@fikilehlatshwayo210]

Why are you in denying this is not Sweeden

[@InsightsProfKommal]

It is not Sweden, but the Home Affairs issue in SA remains

[@GK222_]

8:11 she will not produce any of this info cause she knows she's in the wrong. She knows her history, that's why she removed those 2 flags from her profile 🇳🇬🇲🇿 & that's why she's mum. BTW, they sell IDs & Passports in Marabastad. If the Minister of Home Affairs really wants to work then he should go there and clean up that place. Otherwise replace him with Gayton because he's the one who got this ball rolling in the 1st place

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's clear that the situation is quite concerning for you. Regarding the issues in Marabastad, it sounds like there's a lot that needs attention. Do you have any specific suggestions or ideas on how the Minister of Home Affairs could effectively address these problems?

[@GK222_]

@@InsightsProfKommal he needs to send in an "undercover family". Get a Somali, Pakistani or Chinese family (because I heard this operation is run by 1 group from those 3) to go in there seeking help with IDs & Passports. Let's see what information we can gather from this process & if arrests can be made.

[@mpilompanza9101]

You are pretty brave lawyers. Most South African lawyer is laying low about this😂. Thanks for your assistance

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Thank you for your support! We're committed to standing up for what's right, even when it isn't easy. If you have any questions or need further assistance, feel free to reach out.

[@Demru_1]

There are repercussions to any criminal activities. For example, if you use someone's medical aid to remove a tooth then yrs later the owner wants to remove the same tooth. This must teach all of us that crime does not pay

[@InsightsProfKommal]

You’re absolutely right. Engaging in any form of criminal activity, even something that might seem minor at the time, can have serious and long-lasting consequences. Using someone else’s medical aid fraudulently not only hurts that person but can also lead to legal troubles and a loss of trust. It's a clear reminder that honesty and integrity are always the best policies. Crime does not pay in the long run.

[@cleopas_michael0]

All thanks to the Lawyer.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

you are welcome

[@InsightsProfKommal]

you are welcome

[@hlengsmthunzi]

She asked for this.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

100% She know the risks she ran by going on a public stage and the blatantly fighting back the demands of South Africans.

[@DeeGoins]

Exactly what kind of visa wasChichi parent issued? Too many grey areas in this matter,

[@zakhelembhele7046]

It's really high high time our constition protected us against being called xenophobic! How many times have we pointed out the actions of these illegal immigrants and response is just being called xenophobic!? It's really sad.

[@user-kv4rj9hy9h]

Is foreign investment better than the welfare of the citizens. Thereare people from the former homelands who are not properly integrated in the former south africa and are suffering.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

It's a complex issue that doesn't have a one-size-fits-all answer. Both foreign investment and the welfare of citizens are crucial for a country's development. Foreign investment can drive economic growth, create jobs, and improve infrastructure. However, it should not come at the expense of citizens' well-being. For South Africa, addressing historical inequalities and integrating people from former homelands into the broader economy is essential. The government should aim for a balance where foreign investment contributes to sustainable development and social integration, ensuring that everyone benefits from economic growth. Investment in education, healthcare, and social services is just as important as attracting foreign capital. Policies should be designed to uplift marginalized communities and provide opportunities for all citizens. In summary, both foreign investment and citizen welfare should go hand-in-hand for holistic development. Prioritizing one over the other can lead to imbalanced growth and social unrest.

[@AbiM-l4i]

Mr Lawyer pls don't tell us about criminals.

[@mcdonald1821]

The truth is sometimes bitter. SAans Educate yourselves.

[@richardchaupe7231]

Home Affairs has the answer…

[@AndriesMaphoso]

Black people want land. Why the same people who are preaching lies about our laws not preaching about unequality in SA?

[@Cper2000]

we don't need law, we have common sense and by the way lawfully we are waiting but already it seems we are right.

[@azubuikenwafor6970]

Pls, how can someone steal your identity and you keep quiet, how can someone turn your daughtera to Prostitution if you trained your daughters well,. how can someone do drugs in your land and you can't arrest him, if you give birth to a beautiful daughter but cannot feed her well, your daughter will surely join Prostitution, hungry person can sell his identity, Chidimma Adetshina has not committed any Crime bcos she came into this world thru a Nigerian, how can you hate or prosecute a Child based on the Crimes of her mother 🇿🇦

[@user-cf4zx1zs4r]

Are you kidding me? There are more important issues this country needs,like education, health, unemployment, housing, safety, etc.Guys, you need to be more serious about the state the economy is in ,then rather discussing and intervitual person's passport in detail.You guys need to get your acts in line this won't benefit the countries citizens according to my understanding.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

I hear you. It's true that there are many critical issues that need more attention, like education, healthcare, unemployment, housing, and safety. Focusing on these areas can have a real impact on our economy and the well-being of our citizens. Discussions about individual passports might not seem as pressing in comparison. Let's hope those in charge prioritize these essential issues and work towards meaningful solutions.

[@NtokozaPearlKhaula]

You are stupid and think you clever but not,If you think this is not important.We need to take this things very serious. This are 1 things we need to fix it can put our country security in danger.So please don't think we stupid we know what we doing.

[@fikilehlatshwayo210]

Why are you busy talking about xenophobia why are you not talking facts and follow the SAfrican rules

[@InsightsProfKommal]

The facts are covered in detail. This was recorded prior to Home Affairs report yesterday.

[@nathinathi303g]

This young man don't know corruption is two ways corruptee and corrupter both can't get away with crime both and every thing associated must be punished we are where we are course of this kind if empty head lawyers who just represent criminal for money

[@InsightsProfKommal]

It sounds like you're frustrated with both corrupt individuals and the legal system that defends them. Here's a more polished version of your comment: :-) This young man doesn't realize that corruption involves both the corrupter and the corruptee. Both parties, along with everything associated with their crime, should be punished. We're in this situation because of lawyers who represent criminals just for money.

[@NtokozaPearlKhaula]

This lawyer is used to this ans lawyer we are in this shit because Chidima grag South Africa to this.She was supposed clarify this early.

[@thembimaseko9600]

Dear lawyer if you can pack your bags bye bye.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

@thembimaseko9600 Haha, that was a good one! 😂 Keep the humor coming, it made my day!

[@mdube101]

Another lawyer dishing incompetent advice Citizenship by descent Any person who is adopted in terms of the provisions of the Children’s Act by a South African citizen and whose birth is registered in accordance with theprovisions of the Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1992 (Act 51 of 1992), shall be a South African citizen by descent. By birth it's anyone born to at least one SA parent....(or born of a permanent residence holder but citizenship will be granted at 18 if they stayed in SA till then)

[@gustavsnyman8330]

Is this not what was said in the video? Listen properly.

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Eish!

[@NtokozaPearlKhaula]

You thinking about money we don't care about people who want to move in here easly our people have no land, They done enjoying this country sea side because you want to sell the land, that is nonsense and unfair for South Africans. You care about your pocket all of you and this GNU .

[@VirginiaMamogawane-qc4gl]

U are talking shit unprofessional lawyers

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Educate us please

[@Change_II]

Snyman is a snake

[@InsightsProfKommal]

Don't worry, I heard he's shedding that reputation soon!🐍

[@Change_II]

@@InsightsProfKommal wasn't sure about yourself, but clearly you're one in the same.